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Happy holidays, y’all! Here are the presents you didn’t ask for: two staggeringly bad seasons of scripted TV.
First, “Emily in Paris” is back, and this time she’s Emily in Rome, Emily Back in Paris, Emily in an American Embassy, Emily in Venice, and Emily Back in Paris Forever This Time. Emily is madly in love with Marcello — her new Handsome Boyfriend, Italian Edition — but Emily also misses her family of origin, Pabst Blue Ribbon and Pop-Tarts. Emily and her glamorous French mentor, Sylvie, are kissing their way across Europe, too boy-crazy to notice that Agence Grateau is on life support. Mindy is singing in every episode, sometimes in a giant martini glass. Alfie is just there to be toyed with by beautiful women, and Gabriel lives on a yacht now. Somehow, this is still not the last season of “Emily in Paris.” Send this girl back to the greater Chicago area already!
Next, the so-bad-it-must-be-camp Hulu drama “All’s Fair” has crash-landed into its season finale. (Don’t worry: season 2 is coming.) Allura is in divorce mediation with her sociopathic sex-addict NFL-star husband, during which he suddenly falls madly in love with her again and begs her to start over. Immediately afterward, he begins fucking her nemesis. Carrington Lane commits a series of ethical and conduct violations so profound that disbarment seems like the only reasonable consequence, but instead her long-time enemies begin to court her as a possible partner for their lady lawyer firm. Liberty becomes insecure that her best friends are judging her for being a posh blonde Brit who eats scones. And the law firm’s matriarch, Dina, is arrested for the murder of Emerald’s assailant — was she framed??
These two shows each offer us a heightened reality — one bubblegum Technicolor, the other raunchy and lurid — that, despite their differences in aesthetic and tone, both bend towards a nightmarish sense of wrongness. We discuss all the problems, and all the unhinged details we could remember, in this two-part episode. Hope you enjoy! xo
Timestamps for easy listening:
0:00 — “Emily in Paris,” season 5
1:04:08 — “All’s Fair,” end of season 1
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On this week’s Rich Text podcast, we’re talking about a spicy new television show, and a “Secret Lives of Mormon Wives” reunion special that dangled the possibility of spice and instead fed us white bread.
First, we get into “Heated Rivalry,” a Canadian sports romance show that has broken out into the mainstream since it’s first two episodes dropped (on HBO Max for U.S. viewers) on Nov. 28. The show, created for Crave by actor/writer/producer/director Jacob Tierney, is based on the second novel in romance writer Rachel Reid’s Game Changers novel series. “Heated Rivalry” follows two rising hockey stars of Major League Hockey (a fictionalized NHL): Canadian Shane Hollander, who plays for the Montreal Metros, and Russian Ilya Rozanov, who plays for the Boston Raiders. They meet during their rookie years, and the tension is basically immediately palpable. They quickly end up developing a very public heated rivalry (see what we did there?), while entering into a private situationship that spans years.
In this episode, we get into why “Heated Rivalry” has broken through into the cultural conversation so quickly, the insane chemistry between the lead actors, whether it matters that this queer romance was written by a woman in a genre largely consumed by straight women, and why more romance shows should take the genre as seriously as Tierney clearly did.
Then we move on to the much-anticipated, but deeply disappointing, season 3 reunion of “The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.” As fans of the show who have been breathlessly following the adventures of MomTok both on-screen and off, we had high hopes. But unfortunately, this reunion special offered a lot of throat-clearing and very little that actually cleared much of anything up.
The hour-long special, hosted by Stassi Schroeder, gave us… nothing? We were left with multiple frustrating back-and-forths that only ended when Stassi stepped in — not to ask a follow-up question, but to simply move right along to the next segment. It left us wondering who is to blame here: The filming schedule? The fact that the cast is holding back for Season 4? The host? The editing? All of the above?
Before we wrapped up, we also got into some of the far-more-interesting off-screen “SLOMW” news, including the big Fruity Pebbles reveal, and Jessi and Jordan’s dual Viall Files appearances.
Timestamps for easy listening:
0:00 — “Heated Rivalry”
50:06 — “SLOMW” S3 Reunion
1:16:45 — “SLOMW” non-reunion gossip
Hope you enjoy! xo
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It was a big week for vampy girlbosses with flawless blowouts and questionable politics.
Olivia Nuzzi, the wunderkind politics reporter who left NYMag in disgrace when her digital affair with her source and then-presidential candidate RFK Jr. became public, has returned with not only a plum gig at Vanity Fair but a splashy memoir that seems to position her ethical lapse as a romantic tragedy. Meanwhile, her problematic ex Ryan Lizza, who left his own prestige media job in disgrace after being accused of sexual misconduct, has begun dropping Substack missives accusing Nuzzi of more and more lapses: another affair in 2020 with another source and then-presidential candidate, Mark Sanford; writing strategy memos and doing catch-and-kills for RFK Jr. while still covering the race as a reporter. (We recorded this episode before his second installment dropped on Friday night.) We discuss the framing of Nuzzi’s comeback tour, the purple prose and the emptiness behind it, the media rot that enabled it, and the grotesque parade of older, powerful men (very much including Lizza) who have participated in her rise and fall.
Next, we dug into season 4 of “Selling the O.C.” After season 3 ended in complete chaos, it’s unsurprising that the cast has been completely overhauled — but it is surprising, and disappointing, that the show has been almost completely whitewashed in the process. Yes, Alexandras Rose and Jarvis, classic MAGA Barbies, are gone, but they’re not the only ones. Every cast member of color was either ousted or reduced to occasional cameos. And to replace them? A host of new white women from the San Diego office. We discuss the new additions — Ashtyn the pregnant pot-stirrer, Fiona the Alex Hall acolyte, and Kaylee the raver chick — and break down the major points in this season’s drama. We also discuss the MAGA drift in the “Selling” franchise, the return of a much weepier Tyler Stanaland, and the persistent unlikability of the show’s central protagonist, Alex Hall.
Finally, we get into the hit Hulu drama “All’s Fair,” which stars Kim Kardashian, Naomi Watts, and Glenn Close as feminist divorce lawyers serving the fairer half of the uber-wealthy, alongside a crack investigator played by Niecy Nash-Betts. The show had been panned so roundly that we couldn’t resist taking a peek. And yes: it is that bad. It’s so bad that, while watching, we felt unmoored from reality. The pacing is off-kilter, the dialogue is flat and stilted, the plot is unhinged and leans too hard on half-baked feminist politics, the lighting and visuals are harsh and ominous, and the acting is so wooden that it’s hard not to root for the one person really going for it in her performance: Sarah Paulson as the villain, a female misogynist divorce lawyer whose sole objective is to destroy the show’s heroines. We talk about all of the above, as well as the show’s obsession with wealth and conspicuous consumption — including the consumption of expensive beauty procedures.
Timestamps for easy listening:
0:00 — The Nuzzi drama
51:06 — “Selling the O.C”
1:29:37— “All’s Fair”
Hope you enjoy, and happy Thanksgiving! xo
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As people who talk and write about reality television professionally, we know that being on a high-profile show can incentivize people to act in all sorts of ways. Everything is heightened, everyone has an agenda, and everything is — even when it’s very real and raw — in some part for TV. So when you combine that landscape with sexual assault allegations, things very quickly become very icky.
In this episode, we’re tackling the back half of season 3 of “The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives,” episodes 6-10. (If you missed our earlier coverage, here it is!) And, unfortunately, much of this half of the season is spent parsing assault allegations made by Demi against “Vanderpump Villa’s” Marciano. We tried to approach this as sensitively and thoughtfully as possible, but, as always, please listen with care.
But we promise this episode isn’t all doom and gloom! We also get to talk about Whitney’s rise from the social ashes, Stagecoach fuckery (if you’ve watched “Bachelor In Paradise,” you know that a Stagecoach hookup is never a good idea), and the final nail in the Taylor and Dakota relationship coffin. We hope you enjoy! (As much as possible, given the subject matter.)
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Season 3 of “The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives” is back, and it’s full of the juicy answers we’ve been waiting for: Did Jessi have an affair with slimy “Vanderpump Villa” star Marciano? Did Demi have an affair with slimy “Vanderpump Villa” star Marciano? Is Whitney still in MomTok? Did Jen and Zac Affleck fix their crumbling marriage? And what unspeakable thing finally blew up Taylor and Dakota’s on-again-off-again relationship?
In this episode, we tackle the first half of the season, which mostly revolves around the first two questions. Marciano has become a de facto cast member, as his shifting accounts of his relationships with Jessi and Demi keep upending the narrative. But we finally do get some answers — with the help of a polygraph test that the women trust a little more than the science warrants. We also discuss the darker side of Jessi’s marriage to Jordan, the DadTok/MomTok rift, Whitney’s burning desire to audition for “Dancing With the Stars,” and so much more.
We’ll be back soon to discuss the deeply upsetting second half of the season, but for now… we hope you enjoy! xo
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For this week’s episode, we’re trying something a little different: a grab bag! We had three topics we wanted to cover — our reactions to this week’s elections, Lily Allen’s buzzy divorce album, and the deeply unpleasant “Selling Sunset” S9 reunion — so we chatted about all three.
First: We all needed a shot in the arm, and the off-year election gave it to us good and hard. Tuesday’s elections were a Democratic rout, with candidates from 34-year-old Democratic Socialist Zohran Mamdani to bland liberal Mikie Sherrill romping to victory with eye-popping margins. Abigail Spanberger won easily in the VA gubernatorial race, as did the rest of the Democratic ticket. But Dems also notched massive wins in state legislature races and in ballot measures, notably California’s Prop 50 (which backs Gavin Newsom’s retaliatory redistricting plan). They flipped two state utility board seats in Georgia and won a campaign to retain three Democratic state Supreme Court justices in Pennsylvania. Moms for Liberty candidates lost almost every contested school board race. We discuss the unfamiliar feeling of hope and the importance of channeling it into the fight ahead, as well as our (cautious) takeaways from how this election cycle played out.
Second: Lily Allen’s “West End Girl” has dominated the cultural conversation since it hit the airwaves — and we, too, have been enjoying our sonic trip from the West End to the “Pussy Palace.” The raw and diaristic album tells the story, inspired by the breakdown of Allen’s marriage to David Harbour, of a woman whose husband asks for an open marriage while she’s across the ocean, performing in a play in London. While she’s wracked with jealousy and anxiety about their new arrangement, he bends and breaks their rules; the infidelity destroys her, though she tries to get her own back by also taking advantage of the open relationship. Ultimately, the marriage falls apart.
The gruesome details, which Allen has coyly hinted may or may not be entirely factual, are delivered in candy-sweet melodies that only make her rage more pointed. We discuss our reactions to the music, the dark story it tells, Lily Allen as a public figure with a troubled history of her own, and the popularity of confessional pop music.
Third: The “Selling Sunset” reunion made a dark season even darker. Nicole refused to properly apologize for bringing up Chrishell’s late parents. Chrishell revealed more about the offensive language she’d witnessed and experienced from Emma’s on-and-off manchild boyfriend Blake, but was dogpiled by the rest of the cast for failing to be sufficiently supportive of Emma. Mary offered a limited apology to Chelsea for overreacting to the flower arrangement Chelsea sent her, but the depth of the racist subtext to the interaction was never addressed. And with Chrishell and Chelsea seemingly isolated from the rest of the group, it’s impossible to ignore how undercurrents of bigotry have shaped the social dynamic of the office. Will this season be the last we watch? We discuss this, along with the ins and outs of the reunion.
Hope you enjoy! xo
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Our favorite stiletto-wearing, drama-producing, luxury real estate agents are back, baby! Season 9 of “Selling Sunset” premiered on Netflix on Oct. 29., and it faces the difficult task of balancing petty grievances between modelesque agents at The Oppenheim Group with a genuine mass tragedy — the 2025 Los Angeles Wildfires.
The first few episodes of the season are a return to form. Nicole and Chrishell are feuding. Mary and Chelsea are feuding. Bre and Chelsea are feuding. And Emma’s dating a 27-year-old real estate heir who has NEVER EATEN A FRUIT OR VEGETABLE! There’s a lot of feuding! And a very alarming manchild!
And then the wildfires break out, and the city of Los Angeles — and certainly the real estate industry — is thrown into crisis. “Selling Sunset” is more frothy intrigue than hard-hitting documentary, but the show does its best to thread the needle. Some of the most affecting scenes of the season are when we meet real women who had to flee their homes during the fires, and ended up losing everything.
In this episode, we discuss the shifting dynamics of the office, the cracks that are beginning to show in the Chrishell-Emma best friendship, Mary’s unraveling, and Nicole’s last hurrah. Hope you enjoy! Xo
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The first season of “Nobody Wants This” was, fortunately for a show with that title, a smash hit. Based on the life of show creator Erin Foster, who converted to Judaism for her now-husband, the show followed the unlikely interfaith love story between unfiltered podcaster Joanne (Kristin Bell) and hot rabbi Noah (nerdy millennial women’s fantasy boyfriend, Adam Brody). In the process, we and some other critics believed, the show fell into replicating some nasty stereotypes about Jewish women, while positioning Joanne and her sister Morgan (Justine Lupe) as the blonde shiksa goddesses of every onscreen Jewish man’s dreams. But hey, at least the central couple shared banter, chemistry, and a searing first kiss that left its audience weak in the knees!
Recapturing the magic of Joanne and Noah’s meet-cute is a tall order for season 2. And while the season does get a lot right — fleshing out some of the ensemble characters, exploring a flaw or two in the almost too-perfect Noah — it seems to have been too tall of an order to fulfill. “Nobody Wants This” spends the entire season taking us in what feels like a perfect circle, rehashing the same fundamental conflict between Noah and Joanne: she doesn’t want to convert, and if she doesn’t, being in a relationship with her is damaging to his rabbinical reputation. In the repeated argument and tabling of the argument and reintroduction of the argument, the sizzle of their spark is a bit dampened. What’s more, Joanne’s resistance to truly considering conversion only underscores how mismatched they seem, how much he seems to be willing to sacrifice for her without receiving much in return. The struggle to like, or even enjoy hating, our heroine remains real — and that’s a real issue for a rom-com.
At least, in developing side characters like Noah’s sister-in-law Esther (Jackie Tohn) (and, sadly, mostly dispensing with his mother Bina (Tovah Feldshuh)), season 2 of “Nobody Wants This” dials back the cartoonish stereotypes of Jewish women and offers a more three-dimensional, sympathetic portrayal. But the walking-back and course-correcting of certain plots strains credulity — after a season of seeming sexually hypnotized by Morgan, Noah’s brother Sasha (Timothy Simons) is now a sincere wife guy who views Morgan as Just A Friend!!! — and results in a season that feels more like table-setting for next time around.
In this episode, we discuss the major plot points that stood out to us from this season, including the reveal that Noah really is such a Good Boyfriend that he actually becomes a Bad Boyfriend, Sasha’s attempts to reignite the spark with Esther, Morgan’s horrifying romance with her therapist, and Noah’s new job at a Reform temple so laissez-faire about, well, Judaism that it verges on the offensive. We also discuss the revealing (dare we say, telling?) Hollywood Reporter deep dive on the messy making of season 1, and we get into how the showrunners and creator have reacted to the criticisms of season 1’s portrayal of Jewish women — and how those portrayals has shifted in season 2. Hope you enjoy! xo
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Diane Keaton was one of those rare public figures who seemed to collapse the space between celebrity and the rest of us. She was relatable, ethereal, warm, effervescent. She was magic in corporeal form.
That’s probably why for so many of us the news of her passing hit especially hard. Maybe you first met her as the unbearably charming Annie Hall in “Annie Hall,” or mom extraordinaire Nina Banks in “Father of the Bride,” or as reformed doormat Annie in “First Wives Club,” or as yuppie girlboss J.C. Wiatt. Regardless, you probably fell in love with her through the screen.
As Rhonda Garelick wrote of Keaton in a tribute for the New York Times: “In seeming so authentic and unfettered — both physically and personally — Ms. Keaton felt like a reminder of those promises [of 1970s feminism], like a rare bird soaring in from bygone days when progress and growing freedoms for women seemed inevitable.”
The two of us were struck by how genuinely sad we were when we learned over last weekend that Keaton had passed away at the age of 79. We knew that we wanted to use this week’s Rich Text episode to explore what she and her work meant to us. We contemplated rewatching a beloved movie of hers to discuss, and then realized that both of us had the same gap in our Diane Keaton knowledge: 1987’s “Baby Boom.”
“Baby Boom” follows yuppie self-described “Tiger Lady” J.C. Wiatt. She’s married to her high-powered job, having four-minute sex with her live-in boyfriend Steven (Harold Ramis), and gunning for partner at her firm. A wrench is thrown into her carefully constructed plans when she ends up saddled with a (very cute) baby after her distant cousin dies and designates her as the guardian. Hijinks — so many hijinks — ensue. She and Steven break up, she ends up mommy-tracked at her patriarchal office, and eventually she buys a Vermont estate on a whim and moves to the country, where she meets a very handsome veterinarian (Sam Shepard), and she manages to launch a multimillion-dollar business of artisanal baby food within approximately six months.
In a 2020 Vulture interview, Keaton spoke warmly about the experience of making “Baby Boom” and her adoration of J.C. Wiatt. “I love the woman I was playing,” she said. “I mean, it was fun. And let’s not forget Sam Shepard. Let’s not forget him … because wow. [Laughs loudly.] That was really fun too.”
Watching the 1987 film in 2025, we found that after nearly 40 years, the themes still resonate. Women are still navigating inequities in the workforce, and negotiating the motherhood penalty, and contending with the allure of the cottagecore fantasy. And for all of “Baby Boom’s” imperfections — including some fairly egregious plot holes — Keaton’s performance stands the test of time.
So cheers to you, Diane. We’re so glad that your work gets to live forever.
“Why Diane Keaton’s Death Hits Harder,” Rhonda Garelick, NYT
“A Delightful Conversation with Diane Keaton,” Rachel Handler, Vulture
“FEMINIST HEROINES; Women As Victims,” Charles Shyer & Nancy Meyers, NYT
“FILM VIEW; Are Feminist Heroines An Endangered Species?,” Caryn James, NYT
“Putting Down The Independent Working Woman,” Chicago Tribune
“Film Review: Satire That Lowers The ‘Baby Boom,’” Kevin Thomas, LA Times
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Just when you thought she hadn’t even left yet, Taylor Swift is back again with yet another album, complete with a color-based theme (orange), theatrically released music video, and multiple vinyl variants. “The Life of a Showgirl," which dropped October 3rd, is her third fully new album in four years; between 2019 and 2025, she has released at least one new or rerecorded album every year. Like any savvy creative in the influencer era, Swift knows the importance of feeding the beast with an unceasing flood of new content!
Sure, her primary medium is confessional pop hits, not a curated Instagram grid. But Swift’s business model — the frequent drops, the mining of her personal life for intriguing material, the outsized parasocial relationship between her and her fans (in which she is positioned both as aspirational and, increasingly implausibly, as relatable), and the harnessing of backlash, outrage cycles, and “haters” to fuel her career — is almost perfectly optimized for an influencer-based attention economy. She’s figured out how to make sure we pay attention to her. And pay attention we did.
So what did we think of “TLOAS,” and what did we think of the discourse around it? Is it badly written and hollow? Is it boring because it’s about being happy and in love? Is it full of half-baked, ripped-off songs? Is it mean-spirited, petty, and punching down at less famous women? Are there too many old memes in it? Is she a tradwife now? Is it a needless album, born of greed, without a single bop to be found? Is it a misunderstood instant classic?
We listened to the album a few (dozen) times, read a few (dozen) reviews and takes, and went through a few (dozen) changes of heart about the songs before recording this. And while we’re not music critics or Swifties, we did wind up with some strong feelings and opinions! In this episode, we discuss our favorite parts of the album, Taylor Swift’s ambitions and influencer-esque savvy, the cringe lyrics (you know which ones), the difficulty of reviewing a Taylor Swift album without reviewing Taylor as a person, the “WI$H LI$T” tradwife discourse, and so much more.
Hope you enjoy! xo
Amanda Petrusich, The New Yorker: “Why Does Taylor Swift Think She’s Cursed?”
Ira Madison III, “She’s Not Your Average Showgirl”
Maya Georgi, Rolling Stone: “Taylor Swift Conquers Her Biggest Stage Ever on ‘The Life of a Showgirl’”
Anna Graca, Pitchfork review
Tyler Foggatt, The New Yorker: “Do We Still Like Taylor Swift When She’s Happy?”
B.D. McClay, The Substack Post
Kelsey McKinney, Defector: “No Good Art Comes From Greed”
New York Times roundtable:“Taylor Swift Keeps Getting Bigger. Can the Music Keep Up?"
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