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You can connect with Rick at:https://www.ricknorrismusic.net/His Books are available at:Restoration Preparing for His Fullness https://amzn.to/3k1GwvCWhen Heaven Speaks Out Loud https://amzn.to/3k1pj5vThis is a continuation of the restoration series. And today we're going to be talking with Rick Norris, about two trees in the garden. Now, I had read a book by Rick Joyner, it was called there were two trees in the garden. I mentioned that to Rick and it kind of sparked a conversation that we sat down and recorded. And so one to read something out of the book, though, I thought was very telling and actually, Rick Norris, my good friend, we'll go into that a little more as we talk but talks about.Bonhoeffer said at one point is, is what was said of the righteous Abel, Cain and Abel can now be said, A Bonhoeffer though he is dead, he still speaks his life continues to challenge true believers to rise up and boldly stand against the darkness of their time. Now it may seem clear that the Germans churches, superficial understanding of redemption, opened the door to this terrible deception, meaning, we're talking about the tree of good and evil. The good that is of man will never redeem him from the evil that is in him, it is still from the same tree, its poison will result will always result in death. The system which appeared so good to the German Christians shocked the civilized world with its evil deeds, but its nature had actually not changed.The good in man is just the other face of the evil in man, Satan is capable of using either good or evil as a tool to bring about his purposes. So when we eat of the tree of good and evil, we see what that can produce. So the question is, are we eating from the tree of life? And if we are, what does that look like? So I hope you enjoy the conversation we have this is part one of part two. And so if you like it, shoot me an email at remnant revolution610@gmail.com. So I hope you enjoy it. And thanks for listening. We were talking the other day, and the trees in the garden came up and I thought I'd make a great segment. And the first tree that we have is what?Well, the first tree is the tree of life. And that of course is the lord. And any really what seemed to be a tree of death, which is that cross was the tree of life in it. I'm speaking metaphorically Now, of course, the other tree is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. And years ago, many years ago now, by some standards, Rick Joyner wrote a book called to trees in the garden. And he points out what I'm going to share. And it's I don't know why that book set for 10 years, he wrote it, like in the 80s, I think late 80s. And, and it sat for like, a decade. And then when it was time, the Lord does bone that thing took off and, and Rick was an airline pilot, commercial airline pilot, he just well heard me want to use this, you know, as he should lay things at his feet. See what he wants to do with it like we're doing here now. But um, so the bottom line is, he wrote the book, and he puts it better than I can. But it's a very important thing for us to be prepared to understand these two things, these two trees. The premise of that whole teaching, not just Rick's but in general, is that the two trees the first tree, the tree of knowledge of good and evil, of course, in the garden, the Lord said don't eat of it. It's poisoned. It'll kill you, basically, with what he was saying. And the reason it's poison is that the good of the tree is one with Life in the tree and that the knowledge is one. The good and the evil are one. And to give you an idea how one they are the sap in a tree, the root system, there's only one root system in any tree. And it's and so whatever's in the tree, genetically, is, in fact, one. So the good is evil as the evil and the evil can look really good.And the best way Yeah, and the best way to depict that the best way to make people understand the importance of that is that it what is the most? How good can the good of the evil tree, the tree, the tree of knowledge of good and evil? How good can I get? How good can it be? If it's good enough, by worldly standards day, and you know, the day to day life standard? It can we can take it hook line and sinker as being from God. it's inconceivable for us say that again? Well, best way to say it is, and this is hard for people to receive if Mother Teresa, I mean, you think what's the goodest thing that you could run into on the planet? Goodness, the good, the good thing that you can think of, for lack of a better way of saying it is, what comes to mind for me is Mother Teresa. You know, and I don't know whose mother she is not mine. Like I would say, but anyway, so I give her that anybody that spends 80 years in the gutters of Calcutta, right, with the poor, helping the poor, and helping them the terminally ill and the socially rejected and, you know, there's that's love and love covers a multitude of sins. So there's that. But putting that aside for the depiction of what, what I'm trying to say? What if a God never led her to do what she did? What if, you know, there's many it says in the word to as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the children of God. Right? He put it that way. It's like on top like a stipulation. Put the emphasis on day, right? We say, do many led by the Spirit of God, the children got to Scripture, it's the truth. Well, what if you say, to as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the children of God? Oh, yeah. That's kind of student everybody else? Oh, well, maybe you know, and I don't know where to draw that line. I'm not trying to be inordinately harsh for the sake of also Terek esoteric austerity, right? I don't know what that meant. But it sounded sounded. Still can't spell illiterate after all that study. But anyway, so. So if God never led her to do that, and she did it out of just youthful zeal, and, you know, love for other kids, and a pure heart and everything, but she went out there and she was gonna do something, you know because she loved God. And she had an experience with the Lord and whatever. And she went out and did what she did. But he never led her to do it. And he had a whole nother it says, he has a destiny for us that he chose before the foundation of the world. Right. So if he had a destiny for her, maybe he wanted to be a Sunday school teacher, maybe he wanted her to be a teacher, or something else. So he might have had a destiny for her completely different than what she ended up doing. And so that good that she did, in that context, you know, would be evil when it see we have no concept of that. That's like we go. How could anything like that be evil, and that's where you get into love covers a multitude of sins, but even that's the grace of God. You know, it's about being intimate with the Lord. That's what this is all about. We have entered a season on the planet where we have to be Very, very intimate, very, very close to the Lord. That's the bottom line, everything else is secondary. We're not going to fulfill our destiny, we're going to go and do good stuff. Right? For not careful. And the only way to be able to discern what is God and what is good, you know, we like take one of the O's out and capitalize the G and put it on what we're doing. Right. All right. Well, you know, the Lord helped me build this ministry know, you built it by manipulation, you know, people that that's what you want to say, let me put it this way. years ago, I got this thing from the Lord. And he said, you know, 90% of what I mean, the revelation you get from this revelation of the two trees, is that 90% this is what I got early on, years ago. 90% of what's built in the name of Jesus Christ, He never commissioned. That's, that's insane. That percentage, and when I got it, I went now that's got to be me. That's I'm tripping. I must be, I must think a little higher, higher myself than I thought. Do you think that and I watched myself real close. I was almost felt guilty for thinking, who do I think I am? Anyway. Alright, so. And then, a few years later, Rick Joyner, again, said the exact same as reading one of his things early on, I think it was the harvest. He's written some wonderful literature. Most of its some of its didactic tutorial, teaching prophetic teaching, but a lot of it is analogous metaphorical, that kind of thing. Anyway. He's he said that exact thing in his book is 90% of what's built today in the name of Jesus, and I didn't talk to him. All right, yeah. God never commission. And they went, you know, cuz I respect the man. And I, yeah, I said, Well, maybe I'm not crazy grant are puffed up. And so then, about 10 years later, another author, John Eldridge, who I take issue on some things we could talk about that sometime. But the good author wrote the very same thing, independent, both of us 90% out of the mouth, and two or three witnesses, the thing is to establish with the words. So think of that for a minute, wait a minute, well, how could that happen? How could you have 90%? of everything gets built in the name of Jesus, he never commissioned? How could that happen? Well, the reason is, is because we lost, this is may seem like a rabbit trail. But this is, this is important. I'm sorry.Well, if you if you look at that, and you're thinking, well, then is all this stuff. Bad? Like what we're doing right here, I'm stepping out and creating this, you know, session of talking about things. You know, God didn't send an angel or, I mean, I felt it in most my spirit to do this, you know, does it? How does somebody rationalize? Well, maybe I'm not doing what actually God said to do, which is what you're saying? Yeah. Like, how do we? How do you know what the 10% is? And maybe you can get to the answer as to Is it that bad if we are doing? I don't know if I'm getting questions out, like,Well, no, I get it. And yeah, you may play and the question is, it puts the simply the question is, how do you know the difference? Between the zeal and desire to do something, and being led to do something? Well, I know you and I, we've had hours of discussions on this kind of thing. And I know your heart, he knows your heart. And every time you try to walk away from this, it just come back. It's right in your face to do it. Right. And there's a difference between what you're doing and what, how we got in this condition.The reason we got in this condition is because we haven't been intimate with Jesus. Now, I say we because we've all nobody has arrived. You know, this all can sound very condescending. on my part, right, who do I think I am again? anyway? You know, how are you the 10%? Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So and but intimacy is the answer. And what we do is we, if even if we're landed, do something, let's say you're in the 10%, that that is led by the Spirit of the Lord. What happens is you go out, you do the thing, you get gone, you get some friends, and everybody gets going, and you're doing, it's going, Yeah, and the thing gets going, and it perpetuates itself. And then you start to worship the ministry of the Lord rather than the Lord of the minister. And so even that can go sell spiritually and look really good. You know, I love Mario Marella. What he says he, we make it all about big-screen skinny jeans and fog machines, right? We left first-century Christianity A long time ago. Right? But so how did we get in this condition? There are other factors. And this is the main one in my book,Restoration, Preparing for His Fullness, That book is the first book I wrote, is about a great deal of this covers in great detail how we got in this condition and how to get out and what to do to, you know, clean things up and get the bride ready. We have to get ready, man, we're on the cusp, but everybody's feeling it. Everybody knows that even the world Lynx, even unbelievers are going wow, that weird stuff though, all those Christians are talking about happening. What do we do now, you know, like I said in one of my other videos, but how we got here is until the biggest temptation to church ever faced, right? The Church at large over history. in history, the greatest temptation that church ever came up against was being legitimized. And by the time Constantine came as the emperor of Rome, Christianity had pretty much the, the outpouring of the Holy Spirit was so powerful miracles, they were still raising the dead into the fourth century. People don't realize that. I mean, small remnants, by the fourth century, they were pretty much getting, you know, the church, which became the Vatican was wiping that out as fast as they could, because they had a plan. Talk about not the good of the tree. But anyway, so. But the point is, at the end of the second century, beginning of the third,, and he realized that God and Christianity had pretty much destroyed Rome took over wrong, all right. And it was politically expedient for him to be a Christian. And so he offered Christian fathers, you know, legitimacy to be a state religion. Well, as soon as they became a state religion he took over, and even the programs that we have today with the altar, and the one-man show one guy doing all the talk, I tell everybody what's going on? Don't that's not the first century. We got all that from him from Constantine. How many people know that? Does God still show up yet? At our services, you know, one-man show or not? He still shows up. Why is that? Well, he's his bride is there is remnants there, not everybody's on? And His Word is there. Right? He's going to honor his word. He's going to go after his bride and try to edify his bride. Right.So he can still do it. Well, yeah, it's through the 80%. But it's not exactly what he was hoping for.Absolutely. It was we have no idea just how, how far off the mark we Yeah, yeah, we just don't. It's by that's why the scripture says, of course, you know, because of his great mercies. We're not consumed. He's way more loving and tolerant. And you talk about enlightened tolerance. Boy, those people on that other side of the aisle aren't really they don't next podcast. We won't get into that. All right. So but yeah, you can't really even get close to that kind of enlightened tolerance. But, so, the point is, when you know, we this is how we got here. The body of christ I say has drifted from the first century to almost the beginning. And when the Vatican got ahold of the churches and made it one church with one guy, you know, the one-man show up there pontificating From then on, we went into, I mean, what it's the fruit of that. The Dark Ages, rightly named Dark Ages.Yeah. Because when I was in, in high school, I went to Europe for a month. And we went to some churches like Denmark and England and places like that. We'd go into this church and had the, you know, the little corner shrine thing up there where the guy would sit in or stand. Oh, yeah, yeah, it's like, and he was the only one with the Bible. Right. Everybody else was kind of sitting in the pew. And, and absorbing from me. Yeah, absolutely. And, and it's not, you're not. Some people may take this as Oh, you're just bashing pastors and people like that?You're not right. Yeah.That will lead me But yeah, I'll explain that because people are probably going off the deep end maybe. Well, sure. He's wearing you say you're saying pastors are, you know, needed?Yeah. Well, no, here's, here's the deal. See,…
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