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    Redefiners

    Call them changemakers. Call them rule breakers. We call them Redefiners. And in this provocative podcast, we explore how daring leaders from across industries and around the globe are redefining their organizations—and themselves—to create extraordinary impact in today’s rapidly changing world. In each episode, Russell Reynolds Associates former CEO Clarke Murphy, Leadership Advisor Marla Oates, and Chief Science Officer Dr. Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic, host engaging, purposeful conversations with leaders in and out of the business world who share their insights and perspectives on how they lead, boldly. You’ll come away with fresh ideas and tangible takeaways on how you can redefine your own leadership trajectory—no matter where you are on your journey.

    Leadership Lounge

    A sister mini-series to the Redefiners podcast, Leadership Lounge gives listeners unfettered access to our global team of leadership experts, who share real-world answers to your most-pressing leadership questions—from how you can give and receive feedback to the benefits of having a mentor. Hosted by RRA leadership advisor Emma Combe, each 15-20-minute episode lifts the curtain on how great leaders think, act, and lead, helping you build your own leadership muscles, whether you’re just starting out or already at the top.

    Our Hosts: Clarke Murphy, Marla Oates, Dr. Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic, and Emma Combe :

    Clarke Murphy leverages 30 years of experience in the executive recruiting industry to advise on critical leadership mandates across sectors—including Fortune 100 board searches and CEO successions. Based in New York, he has provided leadership advisory services to corporations such as Duke Energy, Deutsche Bank and Siemens, as well as private equity firms including the Carlyle Group.

    Since joining the firm in 1988, Clarke has held several senior level roles at the firm, working both in Europe and the US. Clarke was the CEO of Russell Reynolds Associates from 2011-2021, where he led the firm through unprecedented growth. Previously, he led the CEO & Board Advisory Practice, served as Head of the Americas region, and was a member of the firm’s board of directors and Executive Committee.

    Marla Oates is a leadership advisor at RRA who is passionate about connecting organizations with influential leaders and trailblazers who can inspire and drive change in a rapidly evolving world. With a focus on identifying and recruiting exceptional talent for Chief Financial Officer, Chief People Officer, and board searches, Marla has successfully partnered with hundreds of Fortune 500 organizations and private equity firms throughout the technology, industrial, and consumer sectors to identify and recruit top talent.Based in Austin, she has the privilege of fostering community and curating meaningful connections for C-suite executives and board members.

    Dr. Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic is the Chief Science Officer at RRA and is an international authority in people analytics, talent management, leadership development, and the human-AI interface. His commercial work has focused on the creation of science-based tools that improve organizations’ ability to predict performance, and people’s ability to understand themselves. He was recently the Chief Innovation Officer at ManpowerGroup, and is a co-founder of DeeperSignals and MyTrudy, as well as Professor of Business Psychology at University College London and Columbia University. He has previously held academic positions at New York University and the London School of Economics, and lectured at Harvard Business School, Stanford Business School, London Business School, Johns Hopkins, IMD, and INSEAD, as well as being the CEO at Hogan Assessment Systems.

    As the host of Leadership Lounge, Redefiners’ sister podcast, Emma Combe leads the UK Board Practice for Russell Reynolds Associates. She excels at identifying board chairs, CEOs, and executive and non-executive directors for listed, private equity, and family-owned enterprises. She also has extensive experience advising clients on board composition and development, as well as CEO succession planning. Based in London, she brings deep expertise in the industrial, infrastructure, and services sectors, both in the UK and internationally.
    Since 2023, Emma has hosted Leadership Lounge, a podcast mini-series where she asks Russell Reynolds Associates’ leadership advisors to answer some of the most pressing questions facing leaders today.

    Emma joined Russell Reynolds Associates when The Zygos Partnership became part of the firm in 2017. Previously, Emma worked for a specialist headhunting firm advising private equity funds on the leadership of their portfolio companies. She began her career as an associate for a boutique executive search firm based in New York.

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    From Chaos to Clarity: How Bain Capital’s John Connaughton Leads Through Volatility Jul 16, 2025
    Show notes

    While the terms “uncertainty” and “volatility” get thrown around a lot, they certainly describe what’s going on now in global markets, especially when it comes to private equity. In this episode of Redefiners, Clarke Murphy and Marla Oates talk with Bain Capital Co-Managing Partner John Connaughton to get his take on leading through change.

    As someone who has successfully managed through several periods of volatility during his more than 36-year career with Bain Capital, John takes us through how he’s been able to look past current unpredictability with an eye towards the long term. He shares tips and key learnings on how to increase adaptability and agility across the firm, including AI adoption and transformation. He talks about recruiting and retaining top talent, and the top traits he looks for in leaders. Plus, he shares his thoughts on how universities can help redefine the skills needed for next generation leaders to excel in a rapidly changing world.

    We'll also hear from Chris Davis, a leadership advisor in our New York City office, who will discuss the critical leadership traits financial services CEOs need to master AI transformation. 

    Four things you’ll learn from this episode:

    1. How to find and keep the best talent, including the top traits to look for in leadership
    2. How to build resilience and adaptability in teams to deal with uncertainty and change
    3. How technology and AI impacts investment strategy and growth
    4. How educational institutions need to redefine what skills will be needed in a rapidly changing world

    Banking on AI: How Goldman Sachs CIO Marco Argenti Is Rewriting the AI Playbook Jul 02, 2025
    Show notes

    The world has gone through several technology transformations in the past 30+ years. From the launch of the Internet to the rise of mobile, cloud computing, digital transformation, and now AI transformation. In our second live recording of Redefiners, Clarke Murphy goes in-studio at Goldman Sachs to talk with someone who’s been through it all and continues to lead through change.

    As CIO at Goldman Sachs, Marco Argenti is redefining how business is done with the help of AI at one of the world’s leading financial services firms. Marco takes us through his career in tech leadership roles at AWS, Nokia, and now Goldman Sachs, and shares his key lesson of focusing on the “why” before figuring out the “what” and the “how” when it comes to creating IT solutions. He discusses the three leadership skills that are critical when it comes to AI and how to balance the pace of AI business adoption with employee demands for faster change. He also talks about his commitment to cancer research and how AI will be a game changer when it comes to accelerating both research and new treatments.

    We'll also hear from Jennifer Flock, a leadership advisor in our Paris office, who explores what it takes for leaders to build transformation capabilities that last.

    Four things you’ll learn from this episode:

    1. How to manage the pace of change and growing expectations of AI
    2. What are the key business challenges AI is helping to solve now and how will that evolve in the near future
    3. How leaders need to redefine how they manage a hybrid workforce of people and AI agents and how to create a cross-functional approach to AI across the C-suite
    4. How AI is accelerating cancer research and treatment

    If you enjoyed this episode, you might also like these Redefiners episodes:

    • The Only Certainty Is Change: Nasdaq CEO Adena Friedman on AI, Innovation & Market Evolution
    • Leadership Lounge: Unleashing AI’s potential: Are you ready to lead the charge?
    • AI or Die: A Conversation with Coveo Chairman and CEO Louis Têtu
    • Leadership Lounge: How to Future-Proof Your Leadership
    • Exploring the Art of Possible with Google and Alphabet President and Chief Investment Officer Ruth Porat

    Leadership Lounge: Generation Collaboration: How Leaders Can Harness the Power of Multi-Generational Teams Jun 18, 2025
    Show notes

    Today, leaders are working side-by-side with up to five different generations. This creates both significant challenges and unique opportunities for building cohesive, high-performing teams.

    In this episode of Leadership Lounge, we talk to three of our trusted advisors—Kat Armstrong, Paco Ruiz-Maza, and Michelle Mion—who share their perspectives on:

    • The leadership behaviors that foster truly inclusive multi-generational cultures
    • How to manage productive conflict that arises from generational differences
    • Effective cross-generational knowledge sharing strategies, including mentoring and shadow boards
    • How emerging leaders develop critical thinking skills alongside AI adoption
    • How to navigate the tension between preserving legacy and embracing innovation

    "It's managing conflict, not avoiding conflict. An adequately managed conflict, dispute, or conversation can be highly productive and enlightening for both sides." - Paco Ruiz-Maza Leadership Advisor, Russell Reynolds Associates

    Four things you'll learn from this episode

    1. Curiosity drives collaboration. Leaders who cultivate open dialogue and demonstrate genuine curiosity about different perspectives create environments where feedback flows freely in all directions, enhancing productivity across generations.
    2. Productive conflict is powerful. Rather than avoiding generational disagreements, effective leaders create channels for constructive conflict by parking formal hierarchies and viewing disagreement as an opportunity for innovation.
    3. Knowledge sharing works both ways. Innovative approaches like shadow boards and ‘skip meetings’ create valuable exchanges where both younger and more experienced team members learn from each other's unique perspectives and expertise.
    4. Balance AI with human judgment. While 86% of leaders are implementing AI, ensuring emerging leaders develop foundational critical thinking skills remains crucial—AI enhances but cannot replace human expertise and judgment.

    Leading with a North Star: Former Decathlon CEO Barbara Martin Coppola’s Blueprint for Bold Change Jun 04, 2025
    Show notes

    Born in France almost 50 years ago, Decathlon has grown into the world’s largest sporting goods retailer with over 1,700 stores in more than 70 countries. On today’s episode of Redefiners, Simon Kingston is joined by our new co-host, Marla Oates, as they sit down with former CEO of Decathlon Barbara Martin Coppola.

    Barbara takes us through her globe-hopping journey in leadership roles across several industries, including technology, home furnishings, food delivery, and consumer electronics before she came to the CEO role at Decathlon. She talks about the need for a clear North Star to enable transformation, creating a culture of innovation, driving a circular product strategy, and redefining Decathlon’s customer experience in-store and online. Plus, as a member of the board of directors at INSEAD, she shares her insights on how educational institutions’ next generation leaders need to redefine what skills will be needed in a rapidly changing world.

    We'll also hear from Pam Fitzpatrick, Global Head of Sustainability at Russell Reynolds Associates. Pam will discuss key insights from our 2024 Sustainability Report and the commitments we’ve made as a firm.

    Four things you’ll learn from this episode:

    1. How a North Star and guiding purpose can shape overall business strategy and leadership development
    2. How to build a culture of innovation while maintaining a clear vision of quarterly, annual, and longer-term goals
    3. How a circular product strategy impacts product life cycle from design and distribution through end of life
    4. How educational institutions and young people need to redefine the skills needed in a rapidly changing world

    If you enjoyed this episode, you might also like these Redefiners episodes:

    • Paws, Purpose & Profit: A Conversation with Pets at Home CEO Lyssa McGowan
    • Leadership Lounge: Beyond Handshakes – How to Build Trust and Transform Executive Team Performance
    • Unpacking Leadership Lessons with Marriott International President and CEO Tony Capuano
    • Leadership Lounge: What do top-performing teams have in common?
    • Outwork the Competition: Jordan Brand’s Winning Strategy with President Sarah Mensah
    • Leadership Lounge: How to develop your personal leadership brand



    Leadership Lounge: The Art of Succession: How to Identify Tomorrow's Leaders Today May 21, 2025
    Show notes

    Identifying and developing the next generation of leadership talent is critically important. No decision will have a bigger impact on the performance of an organization and its enduring legacy. Yet, many leaders struggle with effective succession planning.

    In this episode of Leadership Lounge, we talk to three of our trusted advisors—James Diggines, Rebecca Slan Jerusalim, and Stacey Shapiro—who share their perspectives on:

    • The critical first steps CEOs should take to build effective succession processes
    • How to spot leadership potential beyond the obvious candidates
    • Common succession planning mistakes that can derail organizations
    • Strategies for keeping unsuccessful candidates engaged and motivated
    • How succession decisions can transform organizational culture

    "Too often succession is really a check the box exercise at a critical point in time, as opposed to having a long-term focus."

    Rebecca Slan Jerusalim, Leadership Advisor, Russell Reynolds Associates

    Four things you'll learn from this episode:

    • Timing is everything in succession planning. Start succession planning as soon as you step into a new leadership role. The longer the duration, the easier it is to develop internal talent.
    • Succession isn't replacement—it's development. Effective succession encompasses long-term talent development. Organizations must actively identify and invest in key talent year-over-year.
    • Keep your talent pipelines broad and dynamic. Resist the urge to quickly converge on one or two candidates. Business conditions shift, and what you need in a leader today may differ dramatically from what you need tomorrow.
    • Transparency builds loyalty. When succession decisions are made, providing clear feedback and development opportunities to unsuccessful candidates can retain crucial senior talent.


    A closer look at the research from this episode:

    • Board Culture and Director Behavior Study | Russell Reynolds Associates
    • Global CFO Turnover Index | Russell Reynolds Associates Russell Reynolds Associates
    • Global CHRO Turnover Index | Russell Reynolds Associates Russell Reynolds Associates
    • SHRM Succession Planning ROI Study | Society for Human Resources Management

    Music with a Mission: Former MTV International Chairman and CEO Bill Roedy on Leading with Purpose May 07, 2025
    Show notes

    Many of us have heard the expression “doing good is good for business.” In this episode, Simon Kingston sits down with former MTV International Chairman and CEO Bill Roedy about how he put this concept into practice on a truly global scale.

    Bill takes us on his journey of how he redefined broadcast television, launching the most channels in television history with more than 200 global channels and 20 brands, including MTV, Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, and numerous others. He discusses how and why he started MTV’s Staying Alive Foundation, Suga, and other social responsibility initiatives to realize the ethos of “doing good is good for business.” And Bill shares his journey from West Point to MTV to GAVI and beyond.

    We'll also hear from Andrew White, a leadership advisor who specializes in executive assessment and development, who will discuss why curiosity and adaptability are essential leadership traits in today's business environment.

    Four things you’ll learn from this episode:

    1. Why doing good is good for business and how to achieve it at scale
    2. How to navigate the various challenges when launching a media startup
    3. How to deal with uncertainty and risk to realize global growth
    4. How to adapt a business background to serve in global non-profits and NGOs


    If you enjoyed this episode, you might also like these Redefiners episodes:

    • Talking Transformational Leadership with RRA’s CEO Constantine Alexandrakis
    • Leadership Lounge: Boardroom Bound: How to Navigate Your Journey from Executive to Board Director
    • Action Creates Hope: A Conversation with IRC President and CEO David Miliband
    • Leadership Lounge: How to develop your personal leadership brand
    • The Business of Football with Los Angeles Rams COO Kevin Demoff
    • Leadership Lounge: Advice on when—and how—to weigh in on social issues

    Leadership Lounge: How to Build Trust and Transform Executive Team Performance Apr 23, 2025
    Show notes

    Today's senior executives operate in an environment where trust has never been more critical, or more fragile. According to the latest Edelman Trust Barometer, trust in business leaders is at an all-time low, with people's fear that business leaders are dishonest increasing by 12% in the last year.

    So, as a leader, how can you cultivate trust within your team and organization?

    In this episode of Leadership Lounge, we talk to three of our trusted advisors—Henryk Krajewski, Emmy Melville, and Ilana Abramowicz—who share their perspectives on:

    • How trust is evolving in today's fast-paced business environment
    • The specific behaviors that distinguish highly trusted executives
    • Practical strategies for building and rebuilding trust within teams
    • How to accurately assess trust levels rather than relying on gut feeling

    “Don’t take somebody else’s credit. If you make a mistake, you own it. You don’t bury somebody else.”

    Ilana Abramowicz, Leadership Advisor, Russell Reynolds Associates

    Four things you'll learn from this episode:

    1. Trust is built on consistency. You need to demonstrate that you can follow through on your promises and commitments, no matter how small.
    2. Trust isn’t something that’s nice-to-have in an organization. It needs to be intentionally built at a foundational level.
    3. Transparent communication is vital for trust—sharing relevant information openly, explaining decisions clearly, and being forthright about challenges creates a culture where trust can flourish.
    4. Trusted leaders give credit, own mistakes (even if minimal), and maintain confidentiality.

    In this episode, we will cover:

    • The four fundamental components that make up trust in the leadership context
    • Why trust should be a foundational priority rather than an afterthought
    • Why trust is critical for accelerating decision-making and enabling productive conflict
    • The ‘1% rule’ for initiating trust repair when relationships have fractured
    • The connection between trust and concrete business outcomes
    • How differing trust languages can create unintended barriers within teams
    • Why timing is critical in addressing trust breaches before they become permanent

    A closer look at the research from this episode:

    Edelman Trust Barometer

    How CEOs Can Build and Maintain a High-Performing C-suite | Russell Reynolds Associates

    The New CEO | Russell Reynolds Associates


    The Only Certainty Is Change: Nasdaq CEO Adena Friedman on AI, Innovation & Market Evolution Apr 09, 2025
    Show notes

    When it comes to global financial markets, the only certainty is the likelihood of uncertainty and change. The world is in a period of transformation on multiple levels fueled by AI and technology innovation, shifting economic policies, and infrastructure modernization. At the foundation of all of this transformation is the unrelenting need for long-term capital.

    In today’s special in-studio episode, Clarke Murphy sits down with a leader who’s not only deftly navigating her organization through change in her role as Nasdaq CEO, but she’s doing it all at the speed of global capital. Adena Friedman talks about Nasdaq’s evolution from the world’s first electronic stock exchange to its current role as a global technology company serving the broader financial system and capital markets. She digs into her career journey from intern to CEO at Nasdaq, how Nasdaq stays on the leading edge of technology and innovation, and how to compete for and keep top tech talent. And she discusses the $80 trillion investment opportunity to bring every society in every economy forward to face the realities of the world that we're living in today.

    We'll also hear from Tristan Jervis, a leadership advisor specializing in AI transformation, who will discuss the four critical steps CEOs can take to build AI-powered organizations.

    Four things you’ll learn from this episode:

    1. Adena’s personal story, career and leadership journey, and advice on how to navigate change and uncertainty
    2. What to do to take advantage of impending changes to the global economy
    3. How to nurture and grow a culture of innovation to stay ahead of disruption
    4. How Nasdaq competes for and keeps top tech and AI talent

    If you enjoyed this episode, you might also like these Redefiners episodes:

    • Talking Tough Decisions with TCW President and CEO Katie Koch
    • Leadership Lounge: How to Future-Proof Your Leadership
    • Elections, Geopolitics, and Global Business: A Conversation with Former President of the European Commission José Manuel Barroso
    • Leadership Lounge: Unleashing AI’s potential: Are you ready to lead the charge?
    • Private Investment Guru David Rubenstein Goes Public on How to Be a Successful Leader & Investor
    • Leadership Lounge: What do top-performing teams have in common?

    Leadership Lounge: Boardroom Bound: How to Navigate Your Journey from Executive to Board Director Mar 26, 2025
    Show notes

    Today's board directors operate in a complex business landscape, balancing strategic guidance, technological innovation, and heightened governance expectations. They must provide critical leadership while navigating rapid change and increasing stakeholder scrutiny.

    So, as an executive, do you have what it takes to thrive in a board role? And how can you maximize your impact once you're there?


    In this episode of Leadership Lounge, we talk to some of our trusted advisors—Maggie Benkert, Edward Mason, and Rusty O'Kelley—who share their perspectives on:

    • How to evaluate whether a board opportunity is the right fit
    • What board chairs are looking for in new directors
    • The behaviors that set exceptional board directors apart
    • How to build effective relationships with fellow board members

    "I advise clients and candidates to be really selective about taking a board role. You want to find an opportunity where you can add considerable value, but it's also developmental or stretching for you, and helps support you in your career."

    Ed Mason, Leadership Advisor, Russell Reynolds Associates.

    Four things you'll learn from this episode:

    1. Be strategic and selective when pursuing board opportunities. Ensures it aligns with your career goals, skills, and values.
    2. Board selection committees value ‘T-shaped’ leaders who bring both breadth across strategic decision-making and depth in specialized focus areas.
    3. The most effective board directors demonstrate five key behaviors: sound judgment, constructive engagement, integrity, asking the right questions, and bringing independent perspectives.
    4. Don’t underestimate the importance of building strong connections with fellow board members. Small gestures can make a big difference.

    In this episode, we will cover:

    • What questions executives should ask themselves before pursuing board opportunities.
    • Three key things boards look for when appointing new directors.
    • The importance of speaking the language of governance rather than management during board interviews.
    • Practical strategies for building relationships with fellow board members.
    • How to maximize your contribution and stay effective throughout your board tenure.

    A closer look at the research from this episode:

    2025 Board Culture and Director Behavior Study, Russell Reynolds Associates


    Paws, Purpose & Profit: A Conversation with Pets at Home CEO Lyssa McGowan Mar 12, 2025
    Show notes

    The global pet industry is expected to grow from $320 billion today to nearly $500 billion by 2030, as more pet parents treat their pets like their own children, often sparing no expense on their pets’ nutrition, health, and wellness.

    As we celebrate International Women’s Day, today’s episode features a conversation with Simon, Hoda and Lyssa McGowan, CEO of Pets at Home, the UK’s leading pet care business. Lyssa will “shed” some light on how she’s “grooming” Pets at Home for growth by creating an omnichannel pet care platform in the UK. She talks about how she balances keeping what works in a purpose-driven organization while adding new capacity in data and technology. She’ll also share her insights on how and when she uses customer feedback to develop new products and services.

    We'll also hear from Hetty Pye, leadership advisor and co-founder of RRA Artemis, a movement designed to accelerate the development of women from the world’s most influential organizations into the CEO seat. Hetty will discuss our latest research on the media’s representation of women CEOs. 

    Four things you’ll learn from this episode:

    1. What are the key barriers getting in the way of more women becoming CEOs and how to get past them
    2. How to lead through rapid scaling and a subsequent slowdown
    3. How a unified customer platform, data, and AI create consistent customer experience at scale
    4. What role customer feedback plays in shaping product and service innovations

    If you enjoyed this episode, you might also like these Redefiners episodes:

    • Exploring the Art of Possible with Google and Alphabet President and Chief Investment Officer Ruth Porat
    • Leadership Lounge: How to develop your personal leadership brand
    • Talking Tough Decisions with TCW President and CEO Katie Koch
    • Leadership Lounge: Why are there so few women in the CEO seat?
    • Leadership Lounge: How to nail your first year as CEO
    • Outwork the Competition: Jordan Brand’s Winning Strategy with President Sarah Mensah

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