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RE 49: Songs About Recovery and Getting Sober Jan 25, 2016

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Today we have Colin, with 16 days of sobriety. This is how he quit.

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I'd like to give a special thanks to Maureen for helping me compile this great list of songs about recovery and getting sober. There are some great artists putting recovery on the map.

"Hate Me" - Blue October. What alcoholic cannot relate to these lyrics? I know I've felt this so many times. When we disappoint our loved ones after a relapse or crisis. It would be so much easier if they would just hate me and go away. The voice of his mother can be heard at the beginning on his answering system. She's calling to check on him and see if he's taken his medications. He's got 90-days sober and wants to thank her. Good song.

"You're Not My God" - Keith Urban. "You're not my God and you're not my friend. You're not the one I will walk with in the end". I view this as a goodbye letter to alcohol and drugs. It's got a great message. Urban is public with his recovery as well.

"That's Why I'm Here" - Kenny Chesney. This is a great song and it's one man's take on his first AA meeting. It gives the impression I know I've felt of wanting what other people had. "They started talkin' about steps you take. Mistakes you make and the hearts that we break". There are a lot of 12-step references and I found it so relatable. In the beginning he says "Well I ain't had nothin' to drink. I knew that's probably what you'd think". I know this hit a chord with me as people would often if I really was sober.

Macklemore has a bunch of good songs. "Fallin'" has lyrics, "Another drink at the bar but I'm not drunk enough..". He goes on to describe his downward spiral in pretty good detail.

"Otherside" is a great song about relapse and how low that can make you feel. He describes going back to a meeting after a relapse and a fan tells him how much he's inspired her with her own recovery. He can't even look at her as he is so ashamed and feels like a "fake". It's a great song for starting all over. Remember, relapse is part of recovery and I know I've beaten myself up so bad in the past.

"Inhale Deep" has an inspiring message about "...every struggle in life, is there to teach you a lesson...". "But if you make the end You will never know the beauty of being able to stand up again". Very powerful lyrics.

He has a new song for his next album entitled "Kevin". He teams up with Leon Bridges and this song talks about the epidemic of doctors prescribing medications and people getting addicted. You can't buy the single yet but I strongly recommend you watch the YouTube clip of the two of them performing it at an awards show this fall. Leon Bridges is like a throw-back to Sam Cooke and says, "Doctor please, give me a dose of the American Dream. Put down the pen and look in my eyes...we're overprescribed". Great song.

"Not An Addict" - K's Choice. This song is clearly about heroin addiction and the denial of being an addict. The song says "We're so creative, so much more. We're High but on the floor". "It's not a habit, it's cool. I feel alive". It's like they are trying to tell themselves that they can "stop anytime I want to" trying to justify their use. Old 90s song but I think it's powerful.

"Recover" - Natasha Bedingfield. This is a great song and it is so positive. She stresses "It's now what we've done but, how far we've come". The message is: WE WILL RECOVER, the worst is over, now.

10 "God of Wine" - Third Eye Blind. "She takes a drink and then she waits. The alcohol it permeates. And soon the cells give way. And cancel out the day". Wow, this is so true for me, that feeling that I was wasting my life away when drinking. It also speaks of the frustration of "Where do we begin?" when new to recovery.

"The A-Team" - Ed Sheeran penned this one about a drug-addicted girl he met on the streets of London. He befriended her and describes her as a "cool girl, with no phone". It sends the message of what lengths this girl goes to for her habit.

Sound City (Dave Grohl collaboration with Stevie Nicks and some other artists) "You Can't Fix This" . It's about dancing with the "devil" (addiction). I know Stevie Nicks is vocal about her recovery.

"One Day At A Time" - Joe Walsh
"One Day At a Time" Yusaf Islam (the former Cat Stevens

"Make Me A Channel Of Your Peace" - Sinead O'Connor. I just like this song as it is the Third Step Prayer. Its kind of somber though but pretty.

"Losing My Way" - Justin Timberlake. "I used to be the man in my hometown until I started to lose my way". It spells out his downward spiral into addiction.

"Sober" - Pink

"Amazing" - Aerosmith. I think we've all known this band has long been in recovery. Steven hit a rough patch in 2006 with painkillers after surgery but checked back into rehab and has since been okay. This song is great as it tells how his life is "amazing" post recovery. How inspiring for all of us struggling!

"Leave The Light On" Beth Hart. She says, "I want to love. I want to live. I don't know much about it. I never did. Seventeen and I'm all messed up inside. I cut myself just to feel alive". Wow, what pain is she in....who cannot relate? Addiction sucks!

"Semi-Charmed Life" - Third Eye Blind (your band) "Doing crystal meth with lift you up until you break". "We tripped on the edge of wanting to feel alive and now I'm struggling to stay alive

RE 48: The Mirror Test | Can You Look Yourself in the Mirror Jan 18, 2016

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Today we have James, with 8 days of sobriety. This is how he quit.

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There was a period of time from around 2004-2014 where I could not look at myself in the mirror. I didn't want to admit it, but I was disgusted with myself. I didn't recognize the person standing there and I didn't know what to do about it. I thought the problem was others, I thought the problem was stress, I thought the problem was anxiety and depression. I definitely wasn't ready to examine the problem could possibly be my ally alcohol. No way. Not at all. That couldn't be the problem. Nope.

It wasn't until I reached emotional sobriety in 2014 when I started to catch glimpses of the real Paul Churchill in the mirror. It didn't happen day one of sobriety. It didn't happen day 30. But like the seasons change, I was eventually able to look myself in the mirror without total disgust. Fast forward to January 18th, 2016. I embrace that man in the mirror. We challenge each other to be better. To make others better and that man in the mirror is my best friend. Here is the poem a football coach read to us in High School.

The Guy in the Glass

When you get what you want in your struggle for pelf,

And the world makes you King for a day,

Then go to the mirror and look at yourself,

And see what that guy has to say.

For it isn't your Father, or Mother, or Wife,

Who judgement upon you must pass.

The feller whose verdict counts most in your life

Is the guy staring back from the glass.

He's the feller to please, never mind all the rest,

For he's with you clear up to the end,

And you've passed your most dangerous, difficult test

If the guy in the glass is your friend.

You may be like Jack Horner and "chisel" a plum,

And think you're a wonderful guy,

But the man in the glass says you're only a bum

If you can't look him straight in the eye.

You can fool the whole world down the pathway of years,

And get pats on the back as you pass,

But your final reward will be heartaches and tears

If you've cheated the guy in the glass.

Dale Wimbrow 1895-1954

"You might be an alcoholic if"

-your spring cleaning meant clearing out the alcohol hiding spots, nooks and crannies to make room for the new ones -Brandy

-you know more about what's happening in your bartender's life, than in your best friend's. -Sarje

-as the sun rises over the curb, you notice you have one shoe on and aren't sure if you lost a shoe or found one. -Frank

-you do your recycling at 2am in the morning so no one will see you. -Claudia

-you don't remember leaving a bar with a guy, wake up at 2am and find a note from a guy you swear you've never met. You text him. You confirm your worst fear. Then start drinking again. -Kelly E.

"If you can't wait to get home from the corner store, so you start drinking your beer while driving home in the car...you might be an alcoholic." -Alvin

RE 47: Americans are Drinking Themselves to Death Jan 11, 2016

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Today we have Bill, with 17 months of sobriety. This is how he quit.

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An article written by the Alaksa Dispatch News titles "Americas are drinking themselves to death at record rates" was recently posted in the Recovery Elevator Private Accountability Group on facebook and I was blown away by what I read.

Here are some of the bullets that I want to point out from the article.

Facts about the booze:

Last year more than 30,700 Americans died from alcohol-induced causes
In 2014 there were 9.6 deaths from these alcohol-induced causes per 100,000 people, an increase of 37% since 2002.
in 2014 28,647 people died of heroin and prescription drug overdoses which is less than the 30,700 from alcohol.
The top 10% of American adults consume the lions share of alcohol in this country with close to 74 drinks on average.
Line between "moderate use" and "Dangerous use"can be a thin one.
A recent study quantified the rise of death associated with the use of a variety of common recreational drugs and they found that at the level of individual use, alcohol was the deadliest substance, followed by heroine and cocaine.

You might be an alcoholic if:

- you feel like you have to hide it from anybody at any time. Bill - Interviewee

-you swish mouthwash to freshen your breath and you notice you cannot taste or feel it... it's like swishing water -Margaret

-at 476 days you are still finding empty beer cans in the garage, workshop, musical equipment cases etc because you were hiding so many empties thinking that you were fooling everyone about how much you were actually drinking. -James P

-you carry the tiny wine bottles in your purse and one falls out when you go to pay for your mani pedi at the nail salon. -Larecia

-you live in a really small tourist town with 3 liquor stores within walking distance and you go in the liquor store to buy your usual, and the clerk offers you the "locals" (read frequent buyer) discount! -Tyrrell

You find a half-empty flask of flavored vodka that you hid under the sink months ago and actually contemplate drinking it, even though you just hit one week sober. -Me

RE 46: Sobriety in the New Year and Resolutions Jan 04, 2016

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Today we have Pamela, with 1 year of sobriety. This is how she quit.

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Are New Years resolutions really a good thing? In my opinion, if there is anything in life really worth changing, then waiting till a certain day to make that change seems silly to me. However, if the spirit of the New Year is to create goals and accountability, then I am all for it.

My new years resolution is to quit the gym. I know that sounds really strange but I have gotten way to comfortable with my routine at the gym to the point where I am in the center of my comfort zone circle. Last night I cancelled my gym membership and will be making an effort to to outdoor activities with my dog and use my own body weight for resistance. I'll let you know how it goes.

Here is an outline of what is discussed in today

1) For people thinking of making "stop drinking" a new years resolution:

Resolutions are good and its a great time to start something new. However, alcoholics are experts at making promises (even to ourselves) and then letting ourselves down.

There are thousands of self help books on reaching goals (i.e. tony robbins) but a true alcohol problem requires more than will power and knowledge.

I think we have all made the resolution to stop drinking on new years day - and that is good! But when dealing with addiction, the day doesn't have much power than the other 364 days a year if we don't take a few steps to get us on the path to sobriety.

If this is you, I encourage you to save yourself a lot of grief and supplement this resolution with some action such as: attending a meeting (maybe your resolution includes attending at least one meeting a week for a year), telling someone close to you, and maybe even join our private Facebook accountability page and post to the group introducing yourself. Its a lot easier to quit drinking when you are part of a community that cares about you.

2) For people well on their way in sobriety that are making new resolutions:

We are experts at making promises and failing. We are also experts and trying to do things our own way, only to find ourselves humbled as we constantly "bang our head on a wall" hoping the outcome will somehow "be different this time." I almost want to save myself (and all of you) the agony of defeat by just skipping resolutions this year. However, not trying something is way worse than not trying and failing! What if we tried something and we actually succeeded!

Sobriety can be so fragile in the beginning. Maybe skipping resolutions and just "working your program" is the right move. Without sobriety nothing else in life really matters.

However, if you are at a point in your recovery where your program is working and you still have some energy to spare. Improving other areas of your life can actually strengthen your sobriety.

The key then, is to skip the standard mode of operation (make a big promise and use willpower to try and fulfill it) and instead use some of the tools we have learned in recovery to help turbo charge our progress.

A few ideas:

What tools in your "recovery portfolio" can help you achieve your goals.

Is the resolution necessary and realistic?

Example: quit all sugar vs quit processed sugar. Necessary because regulating or moderating has produced nothing but failure.

Is it measurable:

Lose weight vs, loose 5 lbs every 3 months for a total of 20 pounds in the year.

Can you vision yourself and what it will be like when you achieve the resolution?

How good will you feel! Weight loss and how you will look? Pride from being successful.

What are you doing to hold yourself accountable?

Telling others, scheduled review times, public posting?

Have you laid out the steps necessary to get there?

i.e. learn to fly…. what steps does that take?

This is all good and can really improve our health, happiness and thus sobriety. One thing is for sure, achieving lofty goals were probably not possible when we were drinking! Its okay, its more than okay - its so powerful to do awesome things in sobriety! New years is a good time to expand upon our sobriety by really living. Improving our lives through by achieving resolutions another way we can express gratitude for our sobriety.

You might be an alcoholic if:

You might be an alcoholic if you get arrested for trying to pump your own gas at a closed gas station while your friend is taking a leak outside your car. -Rob

You might be an alcoholic if you teach your kids how to play beer pong, but you are the only one that drinks every cup. -Rob

You might be an alcoholic if you go on vacation in the first thing you do is locate the nearest liquor store. -Chris H
You might be an alcoholic if you have to replace your debit card once every few weeks, because you black out and lose it on a regular basis. -Amber O.
You might be an alcoholic if you have to buy a replacement bottle of wine for special occasions because you drink it before the event. -James M
You might be an alcoholic if you are upset by facebook ads relating to alcohol. -Meg
You might be an alcoholic if the remedy (alcohol) has become the ailment. -Dee M.

RE 45: Recovery is Moving in the Right Direction | A Recap of the 60 Minute Segment on Drug and Alcohol Addiction Dec 28, 2015

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Today we have Micheal, with over 10 years of sobriety. This is how he quit. Micheal Hilton is a leader in the recovery community and does personal coaching with his company Breakthrough Coaching. Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE. 60 minutes recently did a segment on addiction. Micheal Botticelli, the "Drug Czar" is someone who from first hand experience knows the intricacies of alcoholism and addiction. Here are some key points of what I took from this segment.

40 years and a trillion dollars, nation has little to show of the war on drugs.
21 million americans are addicted to drugs and alcohol and nearly 1/2 of federal incarcerations are in for drug crimes. "can't arrest addiction out of people." "We have learned that addiction is a brain disease." " We can't expect cancers patients to just stop having cancer."
Addicts should be patients and not prisoners.
Michael Botticelli has created a high school for teens in recovery in Massachusetts.
Convicts can choose rehab over jail and this actually reduces crime.
in 1998 crashed his car and woke up hand cuffed to a gurney. Alcohol free for 27 years.
Oversees 26 billion dollar budget across 16 government agencies. Over 1/2 of the money goes to drug enforcement.
Says the heroin crisis was created at home. Pain scripts have risen from 76 million in 1991 to 207 million in 2015.
More than 120 americans die of drug overdoses each day.
Tried an experiment in 2010 with the quincy police department. Officers are armed with Naloxone. A nasal spray for an overdose. Also changed laws called the good samaritan law.
Today, 32 states have adopted similar laws and more than 800 police departments carry Naloxone.
In Massachussets, Botticelli has made treating addiction routine health care.
The affordable care act requires the most of insurance companies to cover addiction treatment.
Substance abuse is one of the only disease where we let people reach their most acute point of the disease or "bottom" before we intervene.
Botticelli prefers the word disorder instead of addict.
Sees a model in the attitude towards the stigma with the gay rights movement. He was more comfortable being a gay man, before saying he was an alcoholic. "We have more work to do."
over 1/2 a million a year are killed by legal drugs. Alcohol and nicotine.
Botticelli is not in favor of legalizing marijuana.
Grew up as in insecure kid.
A very wise judge said you can either get care for your drinking problem or you continue the path of this criminal behavior.

You Might be an Alcoholic if...

Claire

You keep a note pad by the phone so you can take notes about your drunk dialings, but then you can't read your handwriting

You're now sober but want to wear a sign on your shirt that says you are enjoying a piece of gum to merely blow bubbles, not to cover up the vodka smell

Caleb

You buy canned beer so you can hide it in your bag without anybody hearing the glass clinks

Simone

If you log into MyFitnessPal as soon as you wake up...to log in the calories of the 8 double whiskeys you'll be drinking later...to know how much not to eat today.

Shane

If after a night of drinking an entire 26er of scotch, the only thing you can think of is "what am I going to drink today?"

Brian in KC, MO

You might be an alcoholic if it's your turn to be the DD, so before the baseball game you pound beers at the tailgate before the game hoping it carries you through to the end of the game....but then the game gets rained out in the 5th inning and you are still too drunk to drive home.

RE 44: Is Alcoholism a Disability? According to Former USC Head Football Coach it is. Dec 21, 2015

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Today we have Autumn, who has been sober for 3 years. This is how she quit.

Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

According to an article from the Los Angeles Times, Steve Sarkisian is suing former employer University of California for improper dismissal when he was recently fired as Head Football coach due to his drinking problem. Coach Sarkisian is seeking monies of $30,000,000, which he feels is properly owed to him due to California state laws.

RE 43: 63 Ways to Stay Sober Over the Holidays Dec 14, 2015

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Today we have Shannon, with 78 days of sobriety. This is how she quit.

Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

She mentions she loves Karaoke and you can check out Jimmy Cliff's "I Can See Clearly Now" on YouTube because that's how we both feel these days!

While listening to the Bubble Hour Podcast a few weeks ago on my drive home for Thanksgiving, I heard some great ideas on how to stay sober over the Holidays. One of the segments was how to respond when someone offers you a drink at a Holiday party. I heard from great responses, but none of the answers were the truth. What I have learned in recovery, is the best answer is the truth. The truth is liberating and you will be surprised by the lack of questions you will get after telling someone you don't drink. Most people are happy for you, and encourage your decision to not drink. A small percentage will give you flack, and this is a great way to quickly find out who are not your friends. Another small group will become inquisitive and start asking questions like, how much did you used to drink? Or, why are you not drinking? These people are asking for themselves because they have been questioning their own drinking habit.

But here are 77 additional tips on how to stay sober over the Holidays. I do not claim for this to be a full and comprehensive list, and with certainty, I can predict leaving out some very important ones. But here ya go.

63 ways to stay sober over the Holidays

Hang out with another alcoholic: That guy Bill was on to something there.
Dedicate 5 minutes today, 10 minutes tomorrow, 15 minutes the next day and increase by five minutes each day on a dormant hobby that you used to love so much. This could be the guitar, model trains, knitting, or swimming. Endless possibility of fun things to do.
Find conduits to your higher power: Forest, Snow, Trans Siberian Orchestra in a Starbucks coffee shop, painting and so much more.
Music: Listen to music. Have you heard flamenco? It's incredible.
Write a letter to a friend. Not an email, but place a stamp on an envelope and send it out.
Write down 5 things you are thankful for each day. My first sponsor requested this of me, and after 16 days, I had 8 things listed in my gratitude list. Not because I wasn't thankful for things in life, but because sometimes these small, seemingly infinitesimal tasks were very had.
Have a sit down chat with your addiction: Hey Gary, as you know the Holidays are approaching…
Call a family member that isn't immediate family and tell them how much you appreciate them. This could be a cousin, uncle, etc.
When in a drive through (preferably not fast food), pay for the person behind you.
Cartwheels: 94% of cartwheels result in laughter and a great time. The other 6% are broken coffee tables.
Go to a 12-step meeting.
Buy paint, a canvas, and start painting
Go on a 3-mile walk/hike where there is no cell service. Or make it a point to leave your phone at home.
Write down the goal of not drinking over the holidays. And then place this goal in a place you will see everyday like on your bathroom mirror or inside your gym locker (if you work out everyday).
Volunteer your time at the animal shelter and walk some dogs. In Montana, you may even be able to walk a pig or goat. Dogs are service animals for a reason. Their company is therapeutic and they also don't judge. You're simply the "bees knees" since your taking them on a walk.
Affirmation: Remind yourself daily that you will not be drinking because you have an allergy to alcohol.
Read a book. More specifically, "A Drinking Story" by Caroline Knapp
When someone asks if you want a drink at his or her Christmas Party, you respond with "is your snowmobile insured"?
Stay a minimum of 300 feet away from Burger King, McDonalds, Arby's Wendy's and other fast food chains at all times. Actually the chili at Wendy's is okay. But that's it!
Pray
Say the serenity prayer out loud while looking into the mirror.
Learn the serenity prayer in a different language.
Make it a point to get outside of your comfort zone.
Be okay with uncomfortable feelings. Take 10 minutes and feel your uncomfortable feelings. Embrace them.
Get REal with yourself.
Hot tea. Hot Tea Hot Tea. Tea that is not injected full of caffeine if possible.
Listen to recovery podcasts.
Read: Read and be a sponge.
Go through your cabinets and remove anything with over 10grams of sugar on the carton. Also look for bags of sugar, powdered sugar, and stashes of Reece's pieces.
Cook brussel sprouts
When someone asks if you would like a drink at his or her holiday party, tell them you don't drink.
When that person asks why you don't drink, answer their question unequivocally.
Ask siri to set the timer to 5 minutes. For the first minute, while in a calm still place, sit down, keep your eyes and just focus on sounds. Minute two, breath in for 5 seconds, and exhale for five seconds. Minutes three, close eyes and tell yourself what you are thankful for. Minute four, pump yourself up with affirmations like Paul Churchill, today we will something great and minute five, envision what you want your life to be like in 1 week, 1 month, 1 year, 5 years and 10 years.
Write down your goals. 95% of people don't write down their goals and 95% of or people, who write down their goals, achieve their goals. Think that one through.
Wake up before the sun comes up fro five consecutive days.
Put your alarm clock on the other side of the room so you physically have to get out of the bed.
Write down who your recovery team is. This doesn't matter if you are drunk now, or have 10 years of sobriety. Be clear with who is on your team in case of emergency. Have the baby bag packed by the door.
Avoid self-loathing: in other words, don't kick the crap out of yourself over your drinking. Alcohol does a fine job of this already.
Get to know your addiction. My addiction is named Gary, and I fully respect him.
Whoever or what ever that God thing is, just remember, you're not it.
Find a way to create accountability. Tell someone you are planning to quit drinking, or this Christmas you plan to have less than ten eggnogs.
Don't judge yourself. Be truly accepting of who you are.
Call your sponsor and if you don't have one, get one.
Acceptance is the answer. My favorite paragraph in the Big Book. Find a way to accept your current situation.
Get creative: Create something with clay, pick up a new instrument, use your mind to create something.
Learn a new skill or task. You tube is a great way to learn new things.
Remove temptations: There are the obvious ones like that bottle of Tequila in your pantry, but get rid of all the maple syrup in the house while you're at it.
Have an exit strategy at outings.
Give up control.
Hang out with that group of friends who implausibly seem to be enjoying themselves without alcohol.
De-friend 5 negative or non-supportive friends on Facebook.
Write goals down: Don't drink today, build a fence, or write a book.
Celebrate: Milestones are huge.
Get back up on your feet.
Reward yourself with a treat: The treat shouldn't be booze or consist of more than 92% sugar.
Stay busy.
Remind yourself the last 256 times you planned to only have a couple beers tonight, didn't end up as planned.
Netflix, HBO, and Hulu
Learn a new recipe. One that doesn't need maple syrup to make it delicious.
Check out some animals in their natural environment.
Go Carts.
Do the steps.
Remind yourself, it was my brilliant ideas that got me into this predicament (if you're in a predicament) so maybe I don't have all the answers.

RE 42: Recovery on a Road Trip Home for the Holidays Dec 07, 2015

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Today we have Ferril, who has 5 years of sobriety. This is how he quit.

Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

Ferril launched Party Sober clothing, when he quit drinking, and the threads are RAD!

RE 41: Emotional Sobriety and Not Just a Dry Drunk Nov 30, 2015

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Today we have Erik, with 2 months of sobriety. This is how he quit.

Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

In Episode 41, I talk about emotional sobriety which is a topic breached with trepidation because fully understanding emotional sobriety is near impossible and I have so much more to learn about it.

Erik mentioned in his interview that it isn't a requirement to hit rock bottom in recovery, a concept I wasn't familiar with in 2014 when I hit my bottom. The bulk of the content for this episode comes from Elliot P who just reached 2 years of sobriety earlier this month. Way to go Elliot!

RE 40: Self Loathing in Recovery Continues | Stop Beating Yourself Up Nov 23, 2015

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Today we have Felicia, with 60 days of sobriety. This is how she quit.

Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

We also check back in with Robert who has been interviewed twice on the podcast.

We can do this. ❤️