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    Recovery Elevator

    It’s not a NO to alcohol — it’s a YES to a better life!
    Bestselling author Paul Churchill interviews people who have successfully quit drinking, offering an honest, uplifting look at what an alcohol-free life can really look like. Each week, Recovery Elevator explores sobriety from fresh perspectives — no judgment, no lectures, just real stories from real people.
    Whether you’re sober curious, newly sober, supporting a loved one, or already thriving in recovery, you’ve found your community.

    Topics include: how to stop drinking alcohol, alcohol addiction and dependency, whether moderate drinking actually works, what happens to your brain when you quit drinking, the role of spirituality in recovery, whether AA is right for you, tracking sobriety milestones, and whether addiction might be trying to tell you something.

    If alcohol is making you sick and tired, Recovery Elevator is your invitation to explore what life on the other side looks like — through candid conversations and inspiring guest stories.

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    RE 259: It's the Simple Things in Life Feb 03, 2020
    Show notes

    Today we have Andrew. He took his last drink on February 16, 2019. This is his story.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Update on the Alcohol is Sh!t book! The book is out! Pick up your paperback copy on Amazon here! You can get the Audible version here!

    On today's episode Paul talks about 2 things. Number one is about how it is the simple things in life that matter the most. Number two is, watch out for addiction whack-a-mole, or transfer addiction, with an emphasis on technology and smart phones.

    [16:15] Paul introduces Andrew.

    Andrew is 47 years old and lives in Sidney, AUS. He is divorced and enjoys spending time by the water.

    [20:20] Give us a background on your drinking.

    Andrew was about 15 years old the first time he drank and he realized that, when he drank, he didn't quite behave the same way as everybody else. He says that he felt that alcohol calmed him down.

    [23:00] When did you first recognize that alcohol was causing more damage than good?

    By age 19 Andrew had 4 drunk driving charges. Andrew thought that spending 5 days in jail, after running through a roadside sobriety test, was a holiday because he had been working so hard.

    [24:30] How did you keep a lid on from age 19 to 46?

    Andrew says he didn't keep a lid on his drinking. He managed to work really hard at the jobs he had, working in the restaurant business. He says he was constantly getting fined at work, and driving to work drunk. Andrew says he was allowed to get away with this behavior at work because the restaurants would be doing so well under his management.

    [35:20] Did you feel you still needed some field research after your ban from the grocery store?

    Andrew says that this was the beginning of trying to find any way to get out from how he was. He was swimming in the ocean but this behavior increased for the next 6 months. After cutting his drinking back, but still drinking about 10 beers a day, he had a seizure, at the train station. This led to a 5-day hospital stay.

    [44:10] What can you say to listeners out there that feel that they are too far gone?

    Andrew says that there is no such thing as too far gone.

    [55:19] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What's a lightbulb moment you've had on this journey?

    Probably the first time I was told, you can have alcohol, or you can have everything else.

    1. What is a memorable moment that a life without alcohol has given you?

    Meeting my girlfriend.

    1. What is your favorite alcohol-free drink?

    Sparkling water.

    1. What is on your bucket list in an alcohol-free life?

    I have one travel journey I'd like to take.

    1. And what parting piece of guidance can you give to listeners?

    Seek out people who have already survived and listen to what they have to say.

    You might need to ditch the booze if...

    27 years after almost ran over a police officer on the side of the road you get banned from your local supermarket.

    Resources mentioned in this episode:

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "Recovery Elevator – It All Starts from the Inside Out. We can do this."


    RE 258: SOBER - Son of a Bitch, Everything's Real Jan 27, 2020
    Show notes

    Today we have Scott. He took his last drink on December 2nd, 2018. This is his story.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Update on the Alcohol is Sh!t book! The book is out! Pick up your paperback copy on Amazon here! You can get the Audible version here!

    On today's episode Paul talks about control. He also talks about an article, by Anna Ronan Shaw, that he read. The article is titled Addiction Isn't a Sin, It's an Adaption, and you can find it here. Paul shares his take, that addictions represent part of our personalities that are in the most need of healing.

    [11:25] Paul introduces Scott.

    Scott is 48 years old and lives in Denver, CO. He is a bicycle mechanic. For fun Scott likes to ride bikes, exercise, and hang out with his dogs, Willie and Waylon.

    [22:00] Give us a background on your drinking.

    Scott started drinking in Jr. High/High School. Within a couple of years Scott got 2 DUIs, 9 years later he got his 3rd DUI and lost his license for 5 years.

    In January 2004 Scott decided to go to rehab. After making some phone calls he entered rehab on January 3, 2004, and stayed for 28 days. Once out of rehab Scott immersed himself into recovery and AA. In 2005 Scott was cleaning a family members house and found a vile of cocaine. He says that within seconds he had it lined up, and up his nose. He looked at that relapse as a lesson, reminding him how powerless over drugs/alcohol he was. He continued his AA and recovery journey.

    In 2008 Scott says he said the 3 most dangerous words an alcoholic can say, "I got this". He gradually left the support of his AA community and the farther away he got the emptier his "sobriety toolbox" got.

    In 2012 Scott bought his first house and thought it would be cool to sit on his porch and drink NA beers. Because of his 2 surgeries, and not liking pain pills, Scott started to smoke pot to help the pain. In October of 2013 Scott's father got in a really bad bicycle accident. In the ambulance ride to the hospital with his father Scott saw a liquor store across from the hospital. As soon as Scott's father was settled in the hospital Scott headed for the store. Without thinking about the 9 ½ years he had been alcohol free Scott got drunk that night.

    [32:33] What happened between then and 2018?

    Scott says his dad really never recovered from the accident. He had multiple surgeries that were all unsuccessful. On November 27, 2016, Scott's father committed suicide. After that Scott says he couldn't use, or drink, enough. He had no stop button.

    Scott sought out help from a therapist, who referred him to a doctor that agreed to help him stop drinking. He prescribed meds that Scott waited a couple weeks before taking. On December 3, 2018, Scott took his first benzo and hasn't drank since.

    [48:45] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What's a lightbulb moment you've had on this journey?

    I think when I finally surrendered. When I accepted that I am an alcoholic and a drug addict, and that that's not a bad thing.

    1. What is a memorable moment that a life without alcohol has given you?

    I would have to say that panel in Montana.

    1. What is your favorite alcohol-free drink?

    A raspberry Italian cream soda with Topo Chico.

    1. What is on your bucket list in an alcohol-free life?

    I want to be a sponsor and I want to help newcomers at my meeting.

    1. And what parting piece of guidance can you give to listeners?

    There is no good day to start this, except today.

    You might need to ditch the booze if...

    You have a little bit left in a whiskey bottle and you decide to try to drink it all at once so you slam it down, and you throw up in your mouth and swallow that, and keep drinking the bottle and finish it.

    Resources:

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "Recovery Elevator – It All Starts from the Inside Out. We can do this."


    RE 257: I Quit Drinking... Now What? Jan 20, 2020
    Show notes

    Today we have Bianca. She took her last drink on October 3, 2018. This is her story.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Update on the Alcohol is Sh!t book! The book is out! Pick up your paperback copy on Amazon here! You can get the Audible version here!

    On today's episode Paul talks about the process of rediscovering what you like to do, after ditching the booze, and to let it happen organically. He encourages you to engage in activities where you find yourself in a 'flow state', or 'in the zone'. Instead of focusing on new hobbies and fun activities, try to find things where you almost lose yourself.

    [7:30] Paul introduces Bianca.

    Bianca is 22 years old and is from Austin, TX. She recently graduated from college and is working for a temp agency while she looks for that full time job. Bianca lives with her girlfriend. For fun Bianca spends her time reading and in nature.

    [13:40] Give us a background on your drinking.

    Bianca didn't really drink while in high school, but in college she went wild. She tried to moderate during her freshman year by documenting everything she did that involved alcohol. That didn't work. The following year, 2016, she started doing drugs along with drinking. Bianca does not remember much from her junior year. By the beginning of her senior year (2018) she had a lot of things on her plate and her drinking was still up there.

    Bianca says she had a lot of little rock bottoms that finally accumulated into her big rock bottom, which happened on October 3.

    [17:40] What happened on October 3?

    Bianca and some friends went out to get something to eat. What started out as just one drink escalated to the point that one of her friends took her wallet away from her. They went to a liquor store after that, and Bianca ended up at home, alone, taking shots. She met up with her friends a little later, still sneaking double shots. Bianca stumbled home and after mixing more drugs with the alcohol she passed out. The following morning she woke up hating herself.

    [25:00] What was that first month like?

    On October 4th Bianca texted the hotline and did what they told her to do, she got rid of her booze and hid her drugs. She says the first few days and nights were tough. She would come home from class and cry. She was having intense nightmares and the shakes. She now feels like she gets a clarity upgrade every 3 months.

    [28:10] What was is like getting sober at 22?

    Bianca says she actually got sober at 21 and celebrated her 22nd birthday sober. She says it was hard, that there is a big drinking culture in Austin, TX.

    [32:00] What was harder, coming out as gay, or as someone with a drinking problem??

    Bianca says both were hard. She came out as gay at a very young age. The hard part about telling someone she had a problem with drinking was the shame she felt.

    [33:20] What are you working on right now?

    Bianca says she is really working on her self-worth and showing up for herself.

    [36:20] Have you ever explored why you drank?

    Bianca said she has explored that with her therapist. She says growing up her family fell into the victims, of victims, of victims. She wasn't taught very good coping skills.

    [39:20] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What's a lightbulb moment you've had on this journey?

    That I'm responsible for my recovery and nobody else.

    1. What is a memorable moment that a life without alcohol has given you?

    The ability to really feel my emotions and to be surprised.

    1. What is your favorite alcohol-free drink?

    Water.

    1. What are some of your favorite resources on this journey?

    Definitely my sponsor, for sure. Meetings and AA literature.

    1. What is on your bucket list in an alcohol-free life?

    Travel overseas sober.

    1. And what parting piece of guidance can you give to listeners?

    I would tell you all to slow down, as slow as you can go, and to feel your emotions.

    You might need to ditch the booze if...

    You buy over $200 worth of alcohol and it is confiscated within 3 days by a good friend.

    Resources mentioned in this episode:

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "Recovery Elevator – It All Starts from the Inside Out. We can do this."


    RE 256: What Happens to Your Brain When You Stop Drinking Alcohol Jan 13, 2020
    Show notes

    Today we have Greg. He took his last drink on October 2nd, 2012. This is his story.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Update on the Alcohol is Sh!t book! The book is out! Pick up your paperback copy on Amazon here! You can get the Audible version here!

    On today's episode Paul talks about what happens to the dome when you stop drinking alcohol. There is a long list of benefits of quitting alcohol, and the mental health aspects are just as important as the physical ones.

    In the first year away from alcohol, and beyond, neurons in the brain that no longer fire together, no longer wire together. This means the neural connections that spark when we want to drink, or take a drink, begin to fade. In time new neural connections are created that don't involve alcohol.

    [9:40] Paul introduces Greg.

    Greg is 35 years old and from Orange County, CA. Greg is an actor and has a 4-year-old daughter. For fun Greg likes to go on adventures with his daughter and create music.

    [12:25] Give us a background on your drinking.

    Greg first started drinking alcohol as a social lubricant. Alcohol made it easier to talk to people and deal with things that he had tried to avoid. In the beginning Greg was more of a clown when he drank, but in his early to mid-twenties his drinking got out of hand. He was no longer drinking for fun anymore; he was relying on it to get through the day.

    [19:07] Was there a time when you knew the gig was up but you didn't know where to go for help, or how to stop?

    Greg said yes, that it was a really demoralizing moment involving alcohol and cocaine. He woke up, went outside in the rain, chain smoked about 10 cigarettes, and knew he needed to talk to somebody. He called his sister, and without giving it much thought, told her he needed help. His sister was there 20 minutes later, and with Greg's mom helped get him into a place.

    [20:55] What happened after that?

    Greg entered a treatment center and white knuckled it the first two weeks, and then eventually the clarity started to come.

    [24:30] Talk to us about your experience after rehab.

    Greg said he surrounded himself with sober friends and family. He started going to school and focused on that, and also stated going to meetings. About 6 months out Greg got a job volunteering at a treatment center. He said he stayed really busy with a lot of structure.

    [26:35] Why do you think it's so hard for people to ask for help?

    Greg said he thinks that it's our pride that gets in the way a lot of the times. Greg said he had a hard time asking for help because he felt that he would be a burden on someone and he didn't want people to become resentful of him.

    [36:00] How could it affect us if we are always thinking about the past or the future?

    Greg says if we are always thinking about the past we are going to tend to be depressed, and if we are always thinking about the future, we are going to tend to be anxious. Either one just drags us down and we are not productive.

    [38:00] Why do you think addiction is higher in the entertainment industry?

    Greg said that there are several reasons, one being that it is more readily available.

    [44:00] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What's a lightbulb moment you've had on this journey?

    Witnessing my daughter being born.

    1. What is a memorable moment that a life without alcohol has given you?

    My trip to Argentina.

    1. What is your favorite alcohol-free drink?

    Yerba Mate Revel Berry.

    1. What are some of your favorite resources on this journey?

    AA literature, online literature, stuff like that.

    1. What is on your bucket list in an alcohol-free life?

    Seeing my daughter have kids.

    1. And what parting piece of guidance can you give to listeners?

    Don't be afraid to ask for help.

    You might need to ditch the booze if...

    You get married in a blackout.

    Resources mentioned in this episode:

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "Recovery Elevator – It All Starts from the Inside Out. We can do this."


    RE 255: Does Addiction Serve a Purpose? Jan 06, 2020
    Show notes

    Today we have Kerri. She took her last drink on November 6th, 2018. This is her story.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Update on the Alcohol is Sh!t book! The book is out! Pick up your paperback copy on Amazon here! You can get the Audible version here

    On today's episode Paul talks about meeting the man he would stay with while in Mexico, hearing his story, and discovering they had a connection through the TEDx Talk that Paul gave. You can find the TEDx Talk, I've been duped by alcohol, here.

    Paul also discusses a video he recently watched, an interview by Dr. Gabor Mate, (author of In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts). Dr. Mate says if you want to look at what causes the addiction you have to look at the benefit of addiction. That the greatest myth on addiction is that its genetic, the other myth around addiction is that it is a choice that people make. You can watch the Dr. Gabor Mate video here.

    [10:14] Paul introduces Kerri. (**Doing the shownotes for my own interview is awkward! **)

    Kerri just turned 50, is married, and lives in Redding, CA. She has two adult daughters, that both have families, and is a grandmother to 4. For work Kerri recently fell into a new career, as a baker, and does stuff for RE. For fun Kerri loves to be outdoors, hiking, taking her 3 rescue dogs out, travel, and kayaking.

    [15:51] Give us a background on your drinking.

    Kerri started drinking in high school and was a black out drinker from the start. A family move before 9th grade made Kerri very angry. Alcohol helped her fit into a new school and she quickly became known as a partier.

    Kerri got married at 19, had her daughters right away. She says that her and her ex-husband were problem drinkers throughout their entire 17-year marriage. Kerri's drinking really ramped up after her divorce.

    [17:00] How old were you when you realized you had a problem with alcohol?

    Kerri says that in high school she knew she didn't drink like her friends, but that she didn't care. Alcohol got her out of her shell.

    [18:00] What happened after your divorce?

    Kerri says her drinking ramped up and it got bad, really quick. It was a big life change for Kerri, with the divorce, having to go out and find a job, and her daughters basically being out of the house. She was drinking at home alone, blacking out every time.

    [23:35] How come you didn't feel ready to do this interview?

    Kerri said she didn't feel like she had anything worth sharing. She said that has felt that way all her life.

    [26:23] Did you have a rock bottom moment?

    Kerri said yes. After getting her teaching credential later in life, which Kerri says was a dream job, she was fired from two teaching jobs as the result of her drinking. Kerri surrendered her teaching credential.

    [31:00] Talk to us about how you did it the first weeks, first month.

    Kerri said it was really hard, that she didn't know what anyone (co-workers, parents) was told or what they knew. Kerri was afraid to leave her house for fear of running into someone, she would grocery shop at 2:00 AM. She said she was filled with so much anxiety that she didn't know how she was going to come out of it the 2nd time around. She went to a therapist for the first time. She sought out and entered into a 90-day IOP program.

    [35:17] You've burned the ships on social media, what kind of response have you received?

    Kerri said she has received nothing but support and encouragement, and she encourages everyone to do it.

    [37:50] Talk to us about the breakthrough you had at the Bozeman retreat.

    Kerri said she got much from the entire retreat but it was the Clarity Breathwork that really did it for her. She said once she was able to stop paying attention to what was going on around her and just do her thing, she was able to experience something powerful that changed her.

    [44:38] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What's a lightbulb moment you've had on this journey?

    That I don't have to live up to, what I think are, other people's expectations.

    1. What is a memorable moment that a life without alcohol has given you?

    All these RE retreats, that is something I never would have imagined doing…taking off and meeting strangers.

    1. What is your favorite alcohol-free drink?

    I'm kind of boring, I really don't do the mocktail thing, I'm a water drinker.

    1. What are some of your favorite resources on this journey?

    Definitely Café RE, these sober meetups, retreats and I listen to a lot of podcasts.

    1. What is on your bucket list in an alcohol-free life?

    Travel, travel, and more travel. I want to do a marathon.

    1. And what parting piece of guidance can you give to listeners?

    To recover, get sober, whatever you want to call it, your way. Your way may be different than someone else's, and to not worry about what other people think.

    You might need to ditch the booze if...

    You wake up one morning with a broken ankle and you have no idea how you did it.

    Resources mentioned in this episode:

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "Recovery Elevator – It All Starts from the Inside Out. We can do this."


    RE 254: You are What You Think Dec 30, 2019
    Show notes

    Today we have Justin. He took his last drink on November 5th, 2018. This is his story.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Update on the Alcohol is Sh!t book! The book is out! Pick up your paperback copy on Amazon here! You can get the Audible version here!

    On today's episode Paul talks about manifestation, how you basically create your future with your thoughts. We all do it, most often unconsciously.

    What is, and isn't, possible isn't your business, it's nature's business. Your business is to thrive towards what you want; sobriety, the why. To create what you want it must be clear in your mind, stay the course, make a commitment to this clear and coherent goal of quitting drinking.

    If you don't know what you truly want, seek love and connection in the mind with thoughts. Those two alone will blast through addiction.

    [14:25] Paul introduces Justin.

    Justin lives in Santa Cruz, CA. He is a musician and has been playing music for about 22 years. He is 31 years old.

    [17:27] Give us a background on your drinking.

    Justin says he got introduced to drugs and alcohol around the age of 16. He says he always wanted just a little bit more than everyone else, and then he started mixing up the drugs and alcohol at the same time.

    Shortly after graduating high school Justin's mother passed away and that sent him down a spiral. He started to really abuse drugs and alcohol, waking up sick every morning and hardly able to function. He realized that he needed to get help or he was going to die.

    [19:00] How old were you when you realized you needed to get help?

    Justin says it was around the age of 24 that he first really realized it, but that it wasn't until the age of 27 that he really that he had thoughts of really quitting. At 27 Justin realized he had to stop, and that he couldn't stop.

    [19:43] What happened then?

    One of Justin's friends told him about the plant medicine ayahuasca. Justin felt like he had to options, rehab or try the plant medicine. He signed up for an ayahuasca ceremony.

    Within a couple hours of drinking the plant medicine the first night Justin says he had a life changing experience. He was taken right to his mother's death and says she was there with him, holding him. After that experience that night Justin completely quit everything and was sober for 16 months.

    [23:20] What sneaky ideas did the thinking mind put in your head at 16 months?

    It was New Year's Eve and Justin had the thought that he would just drink a couple drinks that night, and go back to his sobriety the next day. What happened is he got black out drunk, doesn't remember the night, and woke up sick.

    [24:38] How long did you go back out for, and what brought you back?

    Justin said he went back out for 7 months, and then he did another ayahuasca ceremony, which brought him back. At the time he felt that he needed the plant medicine to bring him back, but now he's learning he can access that state of consciousness with yoga and meditation.

    [26:15] Get us up to speed to your sobriety date.

    There very last night Justin drank he told himself that he needed to stop. He started the night saying he would just drink one pint. The one pint led to at least 10 more drinks and Justin found himself getting kicked out of the bar. He got in his car, blacked out drunk, and sped away to the gym he goes to. He walked into the gym with a 12 pack of beer, went to the locker room and started chugging them, and puking in the lockers. Justin made a big scene and many other members were complaining about him. He was asked to leave the gym, or they were calling the cops. At the end of this night Justin woke up naked, covered in puke, in a bush in his yard, not remembering anything.

    [35:39] Talk to us about how you did it?

    Justin said he called a therapist the next morning, to talk about rehab. He was going to at least one AA meeting a day the first couple weeks. He still goes to a meeting about once a week, but doesn't feel that meetings help him as much as meditation and yoga. Justin says a recent meditation cruise was the best trip of his life.

    [42:25] Talk to us about meditation.

    Justin says he feels that his alcohol abuse was led by feeling there was a hole, or emptiness, that he wanted to fill, or that he wasn't enough. He wanted to cover up all those thoughts with alcohol. But now, he's learned, that instead of covering up the thoughts he doesn't want, to create the thoughts he does.

    [52:30] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What's a lightbulb moment you've had on this journey?

    To love myself.

    1. What is a memorable moment that a life without alcohol has given you?

    Meeting all these amazing people that are connected to the heart.

    1. What is your favorite alcohol-free drink?

    Probably water, honestly.

    1. What are some of your favorite resources on this journey?

    Plant medicine and YouTube.

    1. What is on your bucket list in an alcohol-free life?

    Creating more music to help people heal.

    1. And what parting piece of guidance can you give to listeners?

    I would say to spend more time connecting to your heart and spirit.

    You might need to ditch the booze if...

    You're waking up naked, outside your house, on two hits of acid.

    Resources mentioned in this episode:

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "Recovery Elevator – It All Starts from the Inside Out. We can do this."


    RE 253: Sobriety is Your Superpower Dec 23, 2019
    Show notes

    Today we have Val. She took her last drink on June 26, 2019. This is her story.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Update on the Alcohol is Sh!t book! The book is out! Pick up your paperback copy on Amazon here! You can get the Audible version here

    Sobriety is your superpower, and an offshoot of that superpower is putting the body and mind in a state of calm.

    [12:00] Paul introduces Val.

    Val is 30 years old and is from Fort Collins, CO. She works from home for a software company. Val is married and is one of 5 children, and also has 4 step siblings. For fun Val likes to golf, walk her dog, do crafty things, cook and enjoys the outdoors.

    [16:00] Give us a background on your drinking.

    Val started drinking around the age 14/15 in high school, usually just on the weekends. In college her drinking became almost a daily activity, which was also the time she was prescribed Adderall. During college Val worked at different bars, and continued working in the restaurant industry after college. In a way, working at these places, validated Val's drinking because she didn't see herself as bad off as those she was serving alcohol to.

    Once out of college her drinking habit changed and she was drinking more at home, with her husband. This, at the age of 24/25, is also when she started using her Adderall more than it was prescribed. Adderall kept her productive even with a hangover.

    Around this same time Val says she started to realize that she (and her husband) might have a problem with alcohol and they started trying to moderate.

    [21:48] Half way through this year you both stopped drinking for a couple weeks, and then both relapsed, fill us in from there.

    Val says she was out of town when they relapsed, and that when she came back her husband was ready to be sober. She said she would do the same, but it was because she was abusing her Adderall and it was keeping her high. When she would run out of her Adderall she would start drinking again.

    [22:55] What was the tipping point for you?

    Both Val and her husband started going to AA. Val was going to meetings and meeting with her sponsor, but still drinking. Her tipping point came one night while throwing out all the bottles she had been hiding.

    [25:45] Talk to us about what happened after that moment of clarity?

    Val says she stayed up all night and waited for her husband to wake up because she had to tell him she had been drinking. It was a very emotional moment, he had known she was drinking, but he wanted her to make the decision to stop. A couple hours later she emailed her doctor and told her what was going on and to stop prescribing her any medication. Later that same day she also shared with family member and her sponsor.

    [27:40] What happened after you burned the ships?

    Val says it created the accountability she needed, and she could no longer go back.

    [30:43] How has it been for you off the ADD meds?

    Val says she doesn't get her house as clean as she used to, but that she is a more whole person without them.

    [31:56] Talk to us about the last few months, has there been challenges, have you had cravings?

    Val has had cravings, but says she doesn't get them as often anymore. Working from home can be triggering, and that is when Val plays the tape forward.

    [32:34] Walk us through a typical day.

    AA is still a bog part of Val's journey and she goes to 2-3 meetings a week. She has worked all the 12 steps with her sponsor and just recently started to sponsor someone herself.

    Val tries to get up at the same time every day, take a walk, do a daily reflection, and then jump right into work. Keeping a routine is really important to Val.

    [42:10] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What's a lightbulb moment you've had on this journey?

    That connection with other people is so important.

    1. What is a memorable moment that a life without alcohol has given you?

    Every single day has been a memorable moment.

    1. What is your favorite alcohol-free drink?

    LaCroix, any sparkling water, and my bad habit drink is the Redbull Pear Sugar-free.

    1. What are some of your favorite resources on this journey?

    Any, and all, podcasts I listen to. I have read Annie Grace's book, and your book Paul. And I am an avid believer in AA.

    1. What is on your bucket list in an alcohol-free life?

    Right now, my focus is on my job, and hopefully in the near future starting a family.

    1. And what parting piece of guidance can you give to listeners?

    If you are on the fence if you should stop drinking, then you should stop drinking.

    You might need to ditch the booze if...

    You are literally drinking in your closet before you attend an AA meeting.

    Resources mentioned in this episode:

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "Recovery Elevator – It All Starts From the Inside Out. We can do this."


    RE 252: Future Tripping Dec 16, 2019
    Show notes

    Today we have Wendy. she took her last drink on June 4, 2017. This is her story.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Update on the Alcohol is Sh!t book! The book is out! Pick up your paperback copy on Amazon here! You can get the Audible version here!

    On today's episode Paul talks about incessantly thinking in the future, why we do that, what that leads to, and how to put that thinking beast back into the cage.

    When we are living in the future, we start to feel stress. Once we recognize, and become aware of how often we are future tripping, we can no longer ignore it and the deprograming has already begun. We deprogram first, then we reprogram.

    [13:45] Paul introduces Wendy.

    Wendy is 57 years old, married and lives in Sun City Center, Florida. She has two sons and one grandson. She works as a critical care nurse which she loves. For fun Wendy loves to be out in nature, exercise, walk, and do yoga. She also has a corgi and participates in dog shows.

    [21:45] Give us a background on your drinking.

    Wendy took her first drink at the age of 13. After her parents split up, she became her dad's drinking buddy. She went from using food to stuff down her feelings, to using beer. This continued through her teens, twenties and into her thirties. But it was escalating and she was needing more and more to catch that buzz.

    [24:20] Was there a moment that you recognized it was ramping up?

    Wendy says she definitely knew that it was getting problematic and that she was having side effects from it. She says that although she didn't get anything like a DUI, alcohol was taking up too much real estate in her mind.

    [25:55] When did you realize it was ramping up?

    Wendy says it was in her early 50s. She didn't really have a rock bottom moment but says she woke up one day and said, "I am done." She says it was almost like she flipped a switch in her head.

    [39:00] What techniques work for you when you are feeling anxiety?

    When Wendy first quit drinking she started going to a phycologist, who really helped her in the beginning. One of the things she taught her was HALT, and to never let herself get too Hungry, Angry, Lonely or Tired. Wendy says she still follows that to this day.

    [42:20] How did you get through the first few months?

    Wendy says she read a whole lot of quit lit. She joined a support group on Facebook. She has a sobriety tool box and she keeps full.

    [47:00] What are the differences between year one and year two?

    Wendy says that year one really felt like survival, in a lot of ways, and how to be this new person. Learning how to deal with things without alcohol as a buffer.

    Wendy says that the cool thing about year two is that so many of those triggers start to fall away. She says she doesn't have the voices whispering to her, telling her how great it would be to drink.

    [51:15] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What's a lightbulb moment you've had on this journey?

    That there is an entire world that doesn't revolve around alcohol.

    1. What is a memorable moment that a life without alcohol has given you?

    The sunrises, being up with the sun and making that connection that life can be a beautiful thing without alcohol.

    1. What is your favorite alcohol-free drink?

    LaCroix sparkling water.

    1. What are some of your favorite resources on this journey?

    Journaling as I mentioned before, I like coloring, artwork and gardening. Having that tool box available in my mind.

    1. What is on your bucket list in an alcohol-free life?

    Definitely more traveling.

    1. And what parting piece of guidance can you give to listeners?

    If you think you have a problem, you probably do.

    You might need to ditch the booze if...

    You pee down your leg, at a gala, at a fancy hotel, because you're so drunk you can't wait to get up to the room, and you just act like nothing is wrong.

    Resources mentioned in this episode:

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "Recovery Elevator – It All Starts From the Inside Out. We can do this."


    RE 251: When a Spouse Quits Drinking Dec 09, 2019
    Show notes

    Today we have Torey. He took his last drink on October 9, 2017. This is his story.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Update on the Alcohol is Sh!t book! The book is out! Pick up your paperback copy on Amazon here! You can get the Audible version here!

    On today's episode Paul talks about what happens when a loved one quits drinking. First off, relationships are tricky even when not exposed to addiction turmoil.

    It is important to remember that both parties need healing. Here is some advice for the problem drinker in the relationship; remember communication is key and ask for help. Here is some advice for the normal drinker in the relationship; first off, you can't change the problem drinker, make sure you protect yourself and your energies, set boundaries.

    [13:30] Paul introduces Torey.

    Torey is 47 years old and lives in Bainbridge, WA and has 2 kids. He has been married since 2000. For fun Torey like fabricating and has been spending time finishing a lot of projects. He enjoys spending time with his family and going to school functions.

    [18:00] Give us a background on your drinking.

    Torey grew up in a small Wisconsin town and in high school drank on the weekends because that's what kids did. After high school Torey continued binge drinking during his Coast Guard years. After the Coast Guard Torey went to work in the maritime field and his drinking continued.

    Through the mid-nineties to 2010 the daily drinking continued and progressed.

    [22:40] What happened when you realized there wasn't another kind of alcohol to switch to, to feel better?

    Torey says his drinking was starting to be noticed and talked about. He realized that his kids had probably never seen him without a drink in his hands. When he started to hide his alcohol, he realized he might have a problem. He tried to moderate, which never worked. In 2015 things really ramped up. Torey was depressed, waking up so hungover that he was calling in sick, avoiding things at work, and the connection with his family was dwindling.

    [25:40] When you realized you weren't going to be able to make yourself stop did you seek outside sources?

    Torey says he knew he couldn't fix things himself and that he needed to start listening to people around him. On October 9, 2017, Torey's wife made an appointment for them to see a counselor that knew about addiction.

    [28:20] Talk to us about that day.

    Torey says he knew where he could get the outside support, that he knew about AA, but didn't go to a meeting for a couple days. He started listening to podcasts. He read Annie Grace's book, This Naked Mind, and said that's where it all came together for him.

    [32:30] When did you reach the moment when you thought, "I might be able to do this."?

    Torey says it was around day 14, he was out of town for work and looking for an AA meeting. The feeling that he had something in common with the 8-10 people at the meeting made it all click.

    [35:50] What have been some of the challenges you've faced and resources you've implemented along your journey?

    Torey said his first hurdle was avoiding people that he worked with that still drank heavily, and when he couldn't avoid them, he had a plan in place. He made sure he had things to do in the evening. He found an AA home group and was going weekly. When he would have a craving, he would follow the drink, knowing that it would never end with just that one drink.

    [44:48] How did it feel when you reached the conclusion that alcohol no longer defines you?

    Torey says he felt like he could be himself again. He feels like he can be his true self.

    [47:35] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What's a lightbulb moment you've had on this journey?

    When after having a panic attack he had to be honest with the doctor about how much he drank.

    1. What is a memorable moment that a life without alcohol has given you?

    Anytime I can go on vacation with the family.

    1. What is your favorite alcohol-free drink?

    Definitely LaCroix, but I'll drink any sparkling water.

    1. What are some of your favorite resources on this journey?

    Café RE, this group has been awesome, the AA community where I live, and reading more and more.

    1. What is on your bucket list in an alcohol-free life?

    Finishing some major yard art I have started.

    1. And what parting piece of guidance can you give to listeners?

    Dig deep. If you are thinking you might have a problem, you probably do. Listen to those around you, ask for guidance and help.

    You might need to ditch the booze if...

    A friend had given me a bottle of vodka with a bunch of peppercorns in it, and it was the last alcohol in the house and it wasn't going to go down the drain.

    Resources mentioned in this episode:

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "Recovery Elevator – It All Starts From the Inside Out. We can do this."


    RE 250: Is Sobriety all Unicorns and Rainbows? Dec 02, 2019
    Show notes

    Today we have Dee. She took her last drink on January 17th, 2019. This is her story.

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Update on the Alcohol is Sh!t book! The book is out! Pick up your paperback copy on Amazon here! You can get the Audible version here!

    On today's episode Paul talks about PAWS, or what he refers to as 'healing symptoms. You can find a YouTube video on these healing symptoms, or PAWS, here. This period of experiencing these healing symptoms usually lasts anywhere from 3 – 6 months, but could last a little longer.

    You have 2 choices. The 1st choice is to keep drinking. With this choice there will be a painful progression and whatever emotions and physical repercussions you're experiencing now will only be enhanced in time.

    The 2nd choice is to quit drinking and embark on the most heroic journey. This choice gives you options, and you don't have to decide today.

    [14:50] Paul introduces Dee.

    Dee is 50 years old and recently moved to Albuquerque, NM. She works as a purchaser for the Federal Government. For fun Dee enjoys walking, hiking, biking, and meeting up with her fellow sober peeps.

    [17:20] Give us a background on your drinking.

    Dee was first introduced to alcohol by her parents as a child during the holidays. With high school came beer. Between high school and the age of 21 Dee really didn't do much drinking. 21 years old rolls around and Dee got really good at drinking and socializing. Alcohol seemed to fix her feelings of not being enough. Always a tomboy Dee felt the guys didn't really take an interest in her so the alcohol helped her become more flirtatious.

    At the age of 25 Dee became, what she called, a pro at drinking. Dee's dad got sick and passed, this prompted her to switch from drinking beer to hard liquor, thinking this would stop her from becoming an alcoholic. A month later Dee's husband died. Dee says she dove into the booze at this time and continued to drink heavily for years.

    [23:15] Do you feel that you properly grieved?

    Dee says she did not, that she didn't know how to properly grieve. Alcohol helped her get through this time in her life, when she was in so much pain she didn't want to live. It allowed her to sleep and it allowed her to manage getting up every day.

    [25:25] What role did alcohol play in your 30s and 40s?

    Dee was living in Florida and back to drinking "normal". At 33 Dee moved to Atlanta and decided she needed to quit drinking, so she did. She quit for 7 months. She started going to AA, and although she didn't feel it was for her she continued to go because that is what she knew to do at the time.

    After an offer of some free Dom Pérignon, Dee began drinking again. Fast forward to when Dee first joined Café RE. This was when her drinking really started to escalate, in 2018. Dee was in an unhappy marriage and although she didn't want to drink, she couldn't stop. Dee first joined Café RE in June 2018 and then thought she had her drinking under control and could moderate. She quit RE and drank for another 4 months before rejoining in January 2019.

    [31:50] Was there an emotional rock bottom?

    Dee says she fought with God, her higher power, over this for 25+ years. She says it was exhausting having one foot in church and one foot doing the drinking thing. So, Dee made the decision to face life without the alcohol.

    [38:15] You're entering the scary and uncomfortable area in life, called the unknown, how is this going?

    Dee says it is going well and she is not afraid.

    [39:40] Has there been cravings?

    Having the mindset that drinking is not an option has helped Dee. Dee has a lot of options to reach out to people when she needs to, and she uses them. Connection and community are key. Dee is slowly building connections locally, in a healthy way.

    [41:50] What is something that you learned at the RE Bozeman Retreat that you can implement in your journey?

    Dee says the meditation and the breathwork were the two big things for her, they have helped her slow down and stay in the present.

    [45:00] What are your thoughts on relapse?

    Dee says she hates that word. That is breaks her heart when she sees people posting that they have relapsed, and not because she thinks less of them, but because she knows how hard it is to pick yourself back up and stack days.

    [47:15] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What's a lightbulb moment you've had on this journey?

    You can do it.

    1. What is a memorable moment that a life without alcohol has given you?

    Nashville and Bozeman.

    1. What is your favorite alcohol-free drink?

    Waterloo Sparkling Water, Mango flavored.

    1. What are some of your favorite resources on this journey?

    Well, the number one is Café RE.

    1. What is on your bucket list in an alcohol-free life?

    Writing a book.

    1. And what parting piece of guidance can you give to listeners?

    Believe in yourself.

    You might need to ditch the booze if...

    You are in Ireland, flying solo, and you walk into a bar in Dublin, and there's all guys. One of the guys proposes to you, puts his ring on your finger, you go to the restroom and the ring falls off in the toilet, you have to fish it out, and you have to break up with him.

    Resources mentioned in this episode:

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to info@recoveryelevator.com

    "Recovery Elevator – It All Starts From the Inside Out. We can do this."


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