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    Recovery Elevator

    It’s not a NO to alcohol — it’s a YES to a better life!
    Bestselling author Paul Churchill interviews people who have successfully quit drinking, offering an honest, uplifting look at what an alcohol-free life can really look like. Each week, Recovery Elevator explores sobriety from fresh perspectives — no judgment, no lectures, just real stories from real people.
    Whether you’re sober curious, newly sober, supporting a loved one, or already thriving in recovery, you’ve found your community.

    Topics include: how to stop drinking alcohol, alcohol addiction and dependency, whether moderate drinking actually works, what happens to your brain when you quit drinking, the role of spirituality in recovery, whether AA is right for you, tracking sobriety milestones, and whether addiction might be trying to tell you something.

    If alcohol is making you sick and tired, Recovery Elevator is your invitation to explore what life on the other side looks like — through candid conversations and inspiring guest stories.

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    RE 299: D is for Dip Days Nov 09, 2020
    Show notes

    Today we have Desi. She took her last drink July 21, 2018. With just over 2 years away from alcohol, (at the time of recording) this is her story of living alcohol free (AF).

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    If you haven't checked out the RE merchandise...what are you waiting for?? You can see what we have available here!

    Odette's weekly installment of: Finding your Better You…..

    Hard days happen for everyone and don't believe that highlight reel you see on Instagram! Odette calls these "dip days". It's ok to not thrive every single day, it's ok to let feelings pass, it's ok to be honest and you are not alone. 2020 is here to remind us we are stronger than we think and also what grief feels like.

    Odette wants to share her tools for what helps her during these dip days.

    1. Eat
    2. Drink lots of water
    3. Meditate
    4. Laugh
    5. Remind yourself daily that you are not your productivity levels.
    6. Take your medications (if you are on any!)

    [7:34] Odette introduces Desi.

    Desi is 30 years old and lives in Michigan. She is finished up her Master's in social work at University of Michigan (go blue!). In her spare time, she coaches high school lacrosse which is a huge passion of hers.

    [12:38] Can you give listeners some background on your drinking?

    Desi said her journey started at the age of 7 with an eating disorder after being sexually abused. At the age of 14 a cousin passed away and that was a big turning point for her. Her family didn't talk about emotions. And around this time, she started drinking as well. Her first drink wasn't normal, and it flipped a switch: she wanted more. In college she made friends with a group of people who "didn't make wise decisions" so neither did she. Life was very hard for Desi during this. In college she met another woman, Vera, who became her sister and she credits Vera with saving her life. In 2009 she began to have chest pains, which was always diagnosed as "anxiety", but Desi knew it wasn't. In 2012 her sister Lauren got her into a treatment center for her eating disorder. In her second time in ED rehab she tried to get sober. However, Desi considered herself a dry drunk. November 2014 she began drinking again.

    [34:04] When you came out of treatment were you frustrated that you also had to remove alcohol?

    Desi said she didn't even think she had a problem with alcohol at first. She knew her eating disorder was killing her and that was her focus. She held onto all the other toxic things so she could cope. Desi was scared if she didn't have other things to help her get through life.

    [39:41] Tell me about the first couple months of your sobriety.

    Desi said she worked a program with AA. She had severe withdrawal symptoms, but she was able to talk about it in AA. There was nothing left to hide, and Desi was very honest in her shares. She reflected back on what made her want to quit drinking in the first place. Staying connected and finding community was what helped.

    [44:09] Did your anxiety get better?

    Desi said yes. While she's a naturally anxious person, her anxiety has leveled. She was able to get off medication. Where her anxiety used to sit is no longer there. She experiences anxiety just like other people do, because that's life.

    [46:28] Tell me about sharing openly.

    Desi said she needed to be able to share, she looks at it as a duty. Her sharing helps other people. She tells her story for those close to her that passed away and weren't able to tell theirs.

    [50:50] Rapid Fire Round

    1. If you could talk to day 1 Desi, what would you say?

    Hold, have hope, let people help you, and listen to others.

    1. What are you excited about right now?

    An internship at UofM.

    1. What's your go to response when someone offers you a drink?

    No, I'm good.

    1. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners that are thinking about ditching the booze?

    If you can think of best case scenario for your life, just know that without alcohol it's 100% possible.

    You may have to say adios to booze...

    If you sneak out, get drunk, come back home, fall down the stairs, break your leg running to the bathroom to throw up.

    Odette's challenge this week:

    Reach you, Odette is here for you.

    Upcoming events, retreats and courses:

    • You can find more information about our events here.

    Affiliate Link for Amazon:

    Shop via Amazon using this link.

    The book, Alcohol is SH!T, is out. Pick up your paperback copy on Amazon here! You can get the Audible version here!

    Resources:

    Recovery Elevator YouTube - Subscribe here!

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to -info@recoveryelevator.com

    "Recovery Elevator – We took the stairs down, we gotta take the elevator back up, we can do this– I love you guys"


    RE 298: Be Who You Are Nov 02, 2020
    Show notes

    Today we have Karla. She took her last drink December 31, 2018. With 583 away from alcohol, (at the time of recording) this is her story of living alcohol free (AF).

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Odette's weekly installment of: Finding your Better You…..

    Melanie Beattie says "What would happen if we let go of our camouflage of adaptation? What would happen if we owned our power to be ourselves?

    Would people still like us? Would they go away? Would they become angry?

    There comes a time when we become willing and ready to take that risk. To continue growing, and living with ourselves, we realize we must liberate ourselves"

    It's very vulnerable to show up as our authentic selves. The more we pursue a life away from alcohol the more we walk to liberate ourselves. The humble confidence that shows up allows us to show up authentically. Remember, there's only one you.

    [7:10] Odette introduces Karla.

    Karla is 33, grew up in the suburbs of Los Angeles and has lived in San Francisco for the past 7 years. She is an executive assistant for a tech company in the Bay area. She lives with her partner (fiancé!) and her puppy. For fun she's been working on some passion projects, SoberIRL is one of those!

    [10:29] Can you give listeners some background on your drinking?

    Karla said she started drinking when she was 19. She was studying abroad and hadn't yet made friends. Drinking was an easy way to make friends. She mimicked their style of drinking. Karla called herself a "weekend warrior" in her style of drinking. It didn't occur to her until after she stopped drinking that her drinking was beyond what someone for her stature should. By the time she was 21 she knew she had a problem. Between brown outs and black outs she was piecing together the nights out with her friends.

    The juxtaposition between Karla the party girl and Karla the high achiever was a push and pull she felt deeply, but she didn't know how to stop drinking.

    [18:07] Where you stuck in this cycle for a long time?

    Karla said she began seeing an alcohol counselor around the age of 25. The recommendation was to stop drinking, which she wasn't ready for because it was also her social life. In July 2018 she was able to get 45 days. Using that time, she sought out other methods of getting sober. Until her birthday and then she drank again. Finally, on New Year's Eve she was so hung over from the night before she couldn't go with her partner to a party, and that was it for her.

    [23:29] Tell me about the beginning of your sobriety.

    Karla said she still felt those first 45 days, she was being punished because she couldn't drink. This time around she didn't tell anyone she was restarting, and she wanted to try to be kind to herself this time. She gave herself the grace to accept that this is difficult. She taught herself that not every thought that came into her mind was true.

    [28:51] How did you find your community?

    Karla said at first it was all on Instagram. She followed Holly on Instagram and drew a lot of strength from her because she saw similarities in Holly's story. Also Bridge Club through Tempest was the first time she sat with others who wanted to live this life the same way. Karla knew she needed to find sober friends. With 8 months sober she attended the Recovery Elevator Bozeman retreat in 2019 and she felt herself really start to open up and found the ability to have fun and live life sober.

    [34:21] Tell me how you feel now being an advocate for other people looking to get sober?

    Karla said she never thought she would be in this position. She wanted to share being an openly sober Latina as she couldn't find any others. She wants people to see that they can have fun and be a normal human at the same time. (Karla_is_Sober)

    [37:22] Tell me about how you share so you can be the person you needed when trying to get sober.

    Karla said she always felt because she was so high functioning, she couldn't have a problem with alcohol. She told herself everything she was doing was normal. Karla wants to shed the shame and let people know that if alcohol isn't serving you anymore, you can stop. Success doesn't mean happiness. Karla wants people to know that people can turn their lives around and life can be so much more fulfilling.

    [43:45] Do you get cravings?

    Karla said not really at this point. It's not a physical craving, it's an emotional craving and it's fleeting.

    [45:41] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What is your go to response when you go to a party and someone offers you a drink?

    No thanks!

    1. What's your favorite NA beverage?

    LaCroix Pamplemousse

    1. What's a lightbulb moment you've had in the journey?

    PASS

    1. What is your favorite ice cream flavour?

    Mint chocolate chip

    1. What would you say to Karla on day 1?

    I love you and I'm so proud of you

    1. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners that are thinking about ditching the booze?

    You know where alcohol leads you, get first-hand experience of a life away from it.

    You may have to say adios to booze...

    If the DoorDash driver knocks on your door for your wine delivery, but you don't remember ordering it.

    Odette's challenge this week:

    You are good enough. Step onto the dance floor, we are waiting you!

    Affiliate Link for Amazon:

    Shop via Amazon using this link.

    The book, Alcohol is SH!T, is out. Pick up your paperback copy on Amazon here! You can get the Audible version here!

    Resources:

    Recovery Elevator YouTube - Subscribe here!

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to -info@recoveryelevator.com

    "Recovery Elevator – Own your power to be yourself today, Own your power to be yourself today – I love you guys"


    RE 297: We Can Be Brave Oct 26, 2020
    Show notes

    Today we have Megan. She took her last drink April 20, 2020. With 108 days away from alcohol, (at the time of recording) this is her story of living alcohol free (AF).

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Odette's weekly installment of: Finding the Better You…..

    Armchair Expert: Day 7

    Odette discusses Dax Shepard and the recent restarting of his sobriety clock. She appreciates how he is always seeking a life build in honesty and finding moment of gratefulness. What connects all of us is a feeling. What connects us all is finding our way through this book of recovery. Different chapters and experiences but all rooted in the same goal. We are not alone. Keep protecting your energy.

    [10:26] Odette introduces Megan.

    Megan lives in Montreal, Canada and is 33 years old. She lives with her partner Tim. She is a cook at a vegan restaurant. For fun she paints and draws and loves animal portraits.

    [17:29] Can you give listeners some background on your drinking?

    Megan said she drank a few times drinking growing up. Her parents both drank in the home and it was very normal. She got drunk for the first time when she was 17 or 18. It allowed her to breakout of her shell and be social. Moving to Montreal it became even more "normal". It is very much a part of the culture. It changed from being out and drinking, to drinking at home, to drinking at home alone. She began combining anxiety medication with alcohol and would black out. Megan questioned her drinking in her mid 20s due to so many different events. In March of 2020 she had all the alcohol that was meant for her wedding and in 30 days' time drank all it. It was meant to be for 80 people.

    [28:43] What happened in April of this year that made you stop drinking?

    Megan said it was because she ran out of alcohol. She paused and realized she had drank about $800 worth of alcohol. Megan found herself filled with shame and she realized that the way she drank it would never be enough until she was dead.

    [34:08] Tell me about the first few weeks after you stopped.

    Megan said it's a little hard to remember the time right after she quit. She remembers being exuberant in finding others and creating connections. Her sleep was a little off but she was also riding the pink cloud. As time went on, she wanted to get off anti-depressants. Now she's starting to find an equilibrium. She can finally think properly.

    [39:33] Tell me more about your new job and being sober.

    Megan said she mentioned in the cover letter and again in the job interview that she is in recovery. She positioned it as an asset! They are really respectful of her being sober from alcohol.

    [44:25] Tell me about your relationship with your partner now.

    Megan said her partner already started out as a wicked person. He was concerned for her but also understood that the desire to stop drinking had to come from her. He's really proud of her and expresses that to her.

    [46:36] Rapid Fire Round

    1. If you could talk to day 1 Megan what would you say?

    You are going to flourish!

    1. What is a lightbulb moment you've had in this journey?

    That I am capable, and I am worth a lot. Stop telling myself bullshit.

    1. What's your favorite AF beverage?

    Coffee! Coffee with oat milk, iced coffee, black coffee.

    1. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners that are thinking about ditching the booze?

    Just take it day by day but remember to believe in yourself. You are capable and strong and you will keep amazing yourself.

    You may have to say adios to booze...

    If you drank all your wedding booze in one month that was intended for 80 people.

    Odette's challenge this week:

    Everyone is fighting their own battle and try not to judge anyone else. We need kindness and love, more than ever.

    Affiliate Link for Amazon:

    Shop via Amazon using this link.

    The book, Alcohol is SH!T, is out. Pick up your paperback copy on Amazon here! You can get the Audible version here!

    Resources:

    Recovery Elevator YouTube - Subscribe here!

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to -info@recoveryelevator.com

    "Recovery Elevator – "Stay humble and stay smiling – I love you guys"


    RE 296: Swapped the Booze for your Smartphone? Oct 19, 2020
    Show notes

    Today we have DeeDee. She took her last drink May 5, 2020. With 91 days away from alcohol, (at the time of recording) this is her story of living alcohol free (AF).

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Odette's weekly installment of: Finding the Better You…..

    After watching the Social Dilemma on Netflix Odette has some thoughts about social media and its place in our lives. She wants us to continue to protect our energy and set boundaries.

    1. Talk about it.
    2. Uninstall apps, unfollow people, unsubscribe from emails.
    3. Turn off notifications.
    4. Look for chrome extensions that removed clickbait.
    5. Fact check yourself.
    6. Delay giving devices to children.
    7. Try to have devices out of your bedroom.

    [11:37] Odette introduces DeeDee.

    DeeDee lives in Santa Barbara, California and is 29 years old. She lives with her finance and their 2 dogs. For work, DeeDee is the Director of Development for a non-profit. For fun she's trying to figure that out still, but recently she's begun crafting again and making candles.

    [15:50] Can you give listeners some background on your drinking?

    DeeDee grew up being aware of alcohol because alcoholism runs in her family. Her father got sober 14 years ago. She didn't drink a lot in high school. When she turned 21, she drank to fit in, but even then, didn't really like alcohol. In the beginning of 2013, she noticed that she drew a correlation between being loved and being intoxicated. Her partner at the time only expressed love when he was drunk. In 2017 DeeDee realized she was drinking alone. In 2018/2019 she dabbled in sobriety for short periods of time. She got engaged in late 2019 and they used that excuse for more drinking to "celebrate".

    [22:11] Did you ever connect the dots of alcohol being a problem in your family and your own drinking?

    DeeDee said she was in denial for a lot of it. She didn't know a lot of women who had problems with alcohol, so she rationalized that it was only the men in her family who had a problem.

    [23:38] Did you and your finance decide together to quit drinking?

    DeeDee said they came to the conclusion of quitting drinking on their own, but also at the same time. During early sobriety they both experienced different things and she has learned how to set different expectations based on their own individual experiences.

    [26:28] Tell me about the last 90 days.

    DeeDee said in the beginning she was very focused on how to live a sober life and what that was going to look like for her. She was seeing changes in her thought patterns. DeeDee focused on finding out why she is the way she is. After a month or so, she began to try and find balance in her life and her recovery.

    [31:17] How did the conversation go with your father when you told him you weren't drinking?

    DeeDee said it happened on May 5th 2020. He's been incredibly supportive. The conversation was very matter of fact and easy for her. Both her parents were there, and they met her with understanding.

    [32:52] What do you do when you get a craving?

    DeeDee said she has more emotional cravings then physical cravings. Seeing people with a glass of wine on a patio on a Friday afternoon makes her want that feeling, not the wine. That connection and relaxation is what she's looking for. Now she plays the tape forward, knowing that it will not ever just be one glass of wine. Instead now she chooses a different action, be it a walk or a podcast or ice cream.

    [36:47] What's your favorite AF drink now?

    DeeDee said sparkling water and also making a fun mocktails.

    [38:54] What you been able to identify any emotional triggers?

    DeeDee said she's learned that she has emotional triggers when she's feeling had a difficult day or moment. She wants to sit on the couch and feel like the alcohol is helping her unwind. Leaning her emotions are temporary has been huge.

    [41:46] Have you gotten any pushback from people?

    DeeDee said she started posting on an Instagram account she had that was mostly filled with followers she didn't know in real life. It was easier for her to open up and share, giving her confidence to move onto people in her real life. It was liberating when she decided to post on her "real" account where she was followed by people in her real life. She received awesome feedback and responses.

    [45:57] Rapid Fire Round

    1. If you could talk to day 1 DeeDee what would you say?

    In this moment, exactly where you are, you are enough.

    1. What is a lightbulb moment you've had in this journey?

    The opposite of addiction is connection and how true this statement is.

    1. What are you excited about right now?

    Getting married and starting a life together and doing it without booze.

    1. What is your favorite ice cream flavour?

    Chocolate chip cookie dough

    1. What are some of your favorite resources in recovery?

    Recovery Elevator podcast, Recovery Happy Hour podcast, AA meetings, therapy.

    You may have to say adios to booze...

    If the first time you've ever been honest with a doctor about the amount your drinking AFTER you decided to stop.

    Odette's challenge this week:

    Take inventory of the relationship you have with your smart phone. Be honest. Make a small list of boundaries you can put in place. Baby steps add up and came impact change.

    Affiliate Link for Amazon:

    Shop via Amazon using this link.

    Upcoming events, retreats and courses:

    • Recovery Elevator's first ever REgionals! Join us for our online zoom conference this October 23-24th. This event is FREE for Café RE Members only. Not a member yet?!

    The book, Alcohol is SH!T, is out. Pick up your paperback copy on Amazon here! You can get the Audible version here!

    Resources:

    Recovery Elevator YouTube - Subscribe here!

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to -info@recoveryelevator.com

    "Recovery Elevator – "Turn those f'ing notifications off, life's too short to be looking down at your phone all the time – I love you guys"


    RE 295: Perfectionism Sucks Oct 12, 2020
    Show notes

    Today we have Brandon. He took his last drink October 28, 2018. With 645 days away from alcohol, (at the time of recording) this is his story of living alcohol free (AF).

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Odette's weekly installment of: Finding the Better You…..

    Now more than ever we need to stay rooted in kindness and live with the belief that people are just doing the best they can. In sobriety Odette has found she can give more grace to others because she is giving herself more grace and compassion.

    Looking at perfectionism, it doesn't actually yield perfect results. It instead creates feelings of guilt, shame, stress, addiction, loneliness and isolation. Unsubscribe from perfectionism and just be yourself. Take care of yourself and everything else will take care of itself. And that's the real gift.

    [7:08] Odette introduces Brandon.

    Brandon lives in Orlando, Florida with his wife and son. He's a social media manager. For fun he likes to go on adventures with his son, he plays music and enjoys being creative.

    [10:42] Can you give listeners some background on your drinking?

    Brandon said he started drinking at the age of 21, he wasn't interested in drinking while growing up. He was focused on sports and playing in bands. His first couple years of drinking he didn't suffer the usual repercussions. At about 3 years in he began to experience hangovers. College drinking helped him deal with his anxiety. Brandon noticed the years after college he was using alcohol as a crutch. He found himself turning to alcohol for to handle anything that life threw at him. He was trying to show a front of perfectionism while internally struggling so much.

    [19:24] Did your wife every approach you about your drinking?

    Brandon said his wife would question sometimes the beer(s) he would have with dinner. He could tell she knew something was wrong. His rock bottom was a Halloween party in 2018 where he drank too much and they had a fight. She was 7 months pregnant and expressed concern about having to do the next stage of life alone. That was enough for him.

    [29:11] Talk to me more about the time right after you stopped drinking.

    Brandon said he was prepared for it to be hell but didn't consider all the other things that go into it. He was open with his wife and friends. He turned to fitness to keep his mind moving. He took things hour by hour and focused just on the moment he was in. Brandon discovered a confidence in himself he didn't know was there.

    [35:18] Do you still get cravings?

    Brandon said no, but there are times where it sounds good to take the edge off with alcohol.

    [36:27] What's in your toolbox?

    Brandon said his wife is his biggest support. The /r/stopdrinking Reddit page. The idea of sharing with others gives him motivation.

    [39:32] Do you ever get push back from people?

    Brandon said yes, he does. He feels because he dealt with it silently for so many years, people had a hard time understanding the level of drinking he had come to achieve.

    [44:57] Rapid Fire Round

    1. If you could talk to younger Brandon what would you say?

    Listen to your parents, don't try it.

    1. What is your go to NA beverage?

    Sparkling water.

    1. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are thinking about ditching the booze?

    Listen to your gut. What's in your mind is the truth. There's no better time than now.

    You may have to say adios to booze...

    If you're in a meeting at 2pm and you're thinking about what you're going to drink tonight.

    Odette's challenge this week:

    Try to see yourself differently this week. Be more compassionate when you make a mistake. Give people in your life the benefit of the doubt. Be nice to strangers.

    Affiliate Link for Amazon:

    Shop via Amazon using this link.

    The book, Alcohol is SH!T, is out. Pick up your paperback copy on Amazon here! You can get the Audible version here!

    Resources:

    Recovery Elevator YouTube - Subscribe here!

    Sobriety Tracker iTunes

    Sobriety Tracker Android

    Sober Selfies! - Send your Sober Selfie and your Success Story to -info@recoveryelevator.com

    "Recovery Elevator – "Believing we are all doing the best we can, can make the world a better place – I love you guys"


    RE 294: What has Recovery Made Possible for You? Oct 05, 2020
    Show notes

    Today we have Erin. She took her last drink May 31, 2019. With 488 days away from alcohol, (at the time of recording) this is her story of living alcohol free (AF).

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Odette's weekly installment of: Finding the Better You…..

    Most long-term decisions have to be rooted in a place of love and not of fear. This applies to recovery and leads to the question, "What has recovery made possible for you?" This question helps to build the bridge from fear to love. Hearing stories of hope from others send out waves of survival. As you share your story, you don't know who's listening and how that might change the trajectory of their life. Odette chooses to live in the solution and show others, specifically her family, what's possible.

    [6:23] Odette introduces Erin.

    Erin and her family split time between New Hampshire and Sedona, AZ. She is married with 2 children, ages 1 & 3, she is a stay at home mom. For fun she does yoga, plays with her children, exercises and is getting to know her body.

    [9:35] Can you give listeners some background on your drinking?

    Erin said she first took a drink when she was 14. While that drink wasn't a problem, she began to experiment. The family setting was one where there was drinking and so it was part of what she knew growing up. Her parents separated when she was 17 and she rebelled from there. At 18, she went to the University of New Hampshire, which is a large party school. Drinking was part of the culture and it was just what everyone was doing. Erin can look back now and see how toxic it was, especially for her.

    [12:03] Can you expand on your college years?

    Her sophomore year, she tried sobriety. She took some time off college and did a "major health cleanse". However, when she returned, the habits also returned. She convinced herself she could moderate.

    [13:14] Did you transition after college into a lifestyle that allowed you to maintain a frequency of binge drinking?

    Erin said she has lived all over the place and those geographic moves are part of her story with alcohol. With periods of binge drinking and sadness coupled with periods of living with a healthy focus. Looking back, she can see she was running from her feelings and not being able to be with herself.

    [15:33] What was your style of drinking and did anyone ever approach you about it while you were drinking?

    Erin said she did surround herself with heavy drinkers so she could ignore the reality, there were also consequences to her drinking. She married her first husband in 2010 and they were divorced in 2012. He would speak to her about her drinking. When they separated, she took herself to her first AA meeting. However, a relapse of Lyme disease and the toll the separation was taking on her, she continued to drink daily.

    Erin moved with her mother to Sedona, AZ and jumped into the AA community. She would wake up, go to a meeting, go to work at a health center and then come home and get drunk. This was when she saw that alcohol was turning her into 2 completely separate people.

    [21:00] Tell me about your pregnancy and the last few years.

    Erin said she got pregnant in 2016 and was able to stay sober through her pregnancy. She felt the highs and lows of pregnancy very severely and not having alcohol to help her numb was part of that. When her daughter was around 3 or 4 months, she convinced herself again she could moderate. She got pregnant with her son and again stayed sober throughout, but the pattern started again in the 4th trimester. In May 2019, she woke up violently ill and that was it.

    [27:08] Tell me what you do now when you have one of these tough emotions.

    Erin said she is getting to know herself again as a highly sensitive person (HSP). She taps into a lot of the digital community and is exploring the psychologic makeup of being an empath. She's learning to lean in and explore the power of breath.

    [29:40] Did you go back to AA?

    Erin said she hasn't gone back to AA yet (busy raising the future!) but has found there are so many options out there for her online.

    [32:02] How has the response been from people?

    Erin said overall the response has been supportive. Those closest to her knew she had a problem. Her husband has also stopped drinking in support of her.

    [37:21] Has your creativity started to spark?

    Erin said absolutely. She's now made the choice to "join the human race" and to love herself. She makes talking about recovery part of her everyday life and puts herself out there without shame.

    [40:28] Rapid Fire Round

    1. If you could talk to younger Erin what would you say?

    You're enough and take care of yourself.

    1. What is a lightbulb moment you've had on this journey?

    I'm ok in this moment and there is a purpose for why I am here.

    1. What's your favorite ice cream flavor?

    Chocolate ice cream

    1. What are some of your favorite resources in recovery?

    Podcasts, yoga and meditation, the miracle morning idea and enjoying not being hung over. Getting outside with her kids.

    1. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are thinking about ditching the booze?

    Just do it. Just try it. Give yourself enough time to give it a shot.

    You may have to say adios to booze...

    If you don't recognize yourself anymore.

    Odette's challenge this week:

    Give yourself a few minutes to look back on your journey. Ask yourself "What was recovery made possible?" Write it down, read it often. You are worthy of everything.

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    RE 293: Does it Bring you Peace? Sep 28, 2020
    Show notes

    Today we have Rob. He took his last drink June 5, 2019. With over one year away from alcohol (at the time of recording) this is his story of living alcohol free (AF).

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Odette's weekly installment of: Finding the Better You…..

    When we say no to alcohol, we are saying yes to a better life. Once the alcohol is left behind some people pick back up old hobbies, others go off to do things they thought they would never do. Give yourself some grace when you quit, and you are trying to figure out what you like to do now. Go for it, the possibilities are endless.

    Is how we are choosing to spend our time after quitting drinking bringing us peace? It becomes our responsibility to protect our peace and also seek peace.

    [6:22] Odette introduces Rob.

    Rob is 55 and lives in Littleton, CO. He has been married to his wife for 30 years, they have 2 grown boys. Rob likes adventure sports, specifically motorbike adventuring. He also enjoys hiking, being outdoors. He very much loves what Colorado has to offer.

    [9:34] Can you give listeners some background on your drinking?

    Rob said he moved from rural Indiana in 1978 to Denver, CO and that's when alcohol became a big part of his life. Stemming from his desire to fit into a new school as a kid, he began drinking. He also took a job at a warehouse where the older employees found it funny to corrupt the 15 year old preachers kid. His parents found out and they put a stop to it. He began leading a dual life, the adrenaline seeker mountain climber motorcycle rider vs going to church 5 times a week.

    On November 11, 2012 his close friend Ted passes away from cancer. Rob didn't know how to handle those feelings and after this he began drinking at home. By the end he was blacking out 3-5 nights a week.

    [17:02] Did you ever think to yourself "I might have a drinking problem?"

    Rob said he didn't even have that thought. The mentality around the group he was in was "work hard, play hard".

    [17:32] After Ted passed, were you conscious of the fact that you were using alcohol to hide the pain?

    Rob said that never occurred to him until he was in recovery.

    [19:12] Tell me about after your wife left?

    Rob said he gained enough clarity that night to realize the choice was alcohol or his marriage. He chose to fight for his marriage and that night was his last drink.

    That next morning on his drive to work, rather than listening to his usual drive music, he listened to a podcast about recovery. That night he found an AA meeting as well.

    [25:15] Tell me about the resentment you had and when you felt the shift.

    Rob said it was a progression for him. He didn't really find a home until he found Café RE in September 2019. He felt the connections become real.

    [28:26] Tell me about those first few months after you quit.

    Rob said at 4 months he had done a lot of the brain work. He was trying to connect to his emotions and doing real work on himself. Then in October 2019, a driver ran a red light and collided with the side of his car going 55 MPH. He suffered a traumatic brain injury. While physically ok, he had to/has to work hard to get back to himself and heal himself, again.

    [35:00] Do you still get cravings and how do you handle them?

    Rob said he does still get cravings. And when he does, he goes into his sobriety toolbox. The first thing he does is wait 20 minutes and then he has to figure out why the craving happened. If that doesn't work he page 84's his sponsor. This means: working the steps in your everyday life.

    [39:16] Do you ever get push back from people when you tell them you don't drink?

    Rob said no one gives him push back.

    [40:33] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What is a lightbulb moment you've had on this journey?

    That first night at AA, I'm ok and I'm not alone.

    1. If you could talk to day 1 Rob, what would you say?

    10 deep breaths and give yourself a big hug.

    1. What are you excited about right now?

    Butt Burner Gold which is 1500 miles in 24 hours on a motorcycle.

    1. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are thinking about ditching the booze?

    Stick around. Do the work. It's worth it. One day you will wake up and see that it's all worth it, you have this nice little life now.

    You may have to say adios to booze...

    If you got kicked out of public school for drinking and your parents put you into a parochial school and you show up to bible study drunk.

    Odette's challenge this week:

    Close your eyes for a few minutes and think about the things that bring you peace. Drop them down and keep them close. Get in the habit of looking for this peaceful feeling.

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    RE 292: Navigating the Storm Sep 21, 2020
    Show notes

    Today we have Will. He took his last drink April 10, 2018. With just over 2 years away from alcohol (at the time of recording) this is his story of living alcohol free (AF).

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Odette's weekly installment of: Finding the Better You…..

    Navigating through tough times. Removing alcohol allows you to actually do something about a problem, however sometimes without alcohol in front of it, a problem can present more clearly. It's hard to do the hard thing and easy to pretend our problems aren't really there. We have a choice to accept the problem (the storm) as it presents itself and its aftereffects as part of a life without alcohol.

    [7:01] Odette introduces Will.

    Will is 43 and lives in Queens, NY. He's an IT consultant and married with a dog. For fun he loves to be outdoors, surfing, live music, cooking, biking, running and traveling.

    [9:34] Can you give listeners some background on your drinking?

    Will said he was 12 when he has his first drink on vacation, but he considers his real entrance to alcohol was around the age of 15. It dissolved the anxiety he felt in social situations. In college he went full force into drinking and it quickly became a daily habit. He sought out others who drank like he did.

    [12:57] Were you a high performer in school?

    Will said alcohol did impact his school work. He had no direction for what he wanted to do the rest of his life. He found himself drinking in exchange for doing things he loved.

    [14:22] What happened after college?

    Will said followed a band he loved around the country and fully fell into the drinking and partying culture.

    [16:18] Did you ever question your drinking?

    Will said no, because he had surrounded himself with a culture of drinking and partying. So, he was around it and it was normalized within his circle.

    [18:23] Walk me through your next life chapter?

    Will said he moved to Washington state with his now wife and went back to school. There was less drinking, and he was able to focus on his schoolwork and life. He found some balance mixed in with the pockets of crazy times.

    Once he finished school he moved back to New York and began work, but also was staying out late drinking. He noticed the change in his physical alcohol dependance at this moment.

    [22:34] Did you introduce moderation rules?

    Will said he attempted moderation at home and it simply evaporated over time.

    [23:21] Did you start having conversations with your wife about this?

    Will said him and his wife were both "in it" at the time. (She is also now in recovery.) There was enabling happening and it was difficult to navigate.

    [24:05] Did you have a rock bottom?

    Will said he sought out a doctor to prescribe him something to help him get through the physical dependency. However, looking back, that was just another layer onto addiction. This went on for years with a chaotic life and drinking. He sought treatment after two friends expressed concern in 2016.

    He did a 28-day inpatient program. While he wasn't ready fully for recovery, but at the same time wanted to change his life. He made it through but relapsed within 60 days.

    [29:14] Walk me through 2016 – 2018.

    Will said he was trying in those two years, but it seemed impossible. While he was in and out of the AA rooms, he wasn't doing the work that he was told was needed.

    April 10, 2018, he entered a detox again after 3 days of a mental psychosis.

    [33:13] What changed this time?

    Will said there was enough pain in his life, he realized he needed to make a change.

    [34:30] Do you still get cravings?

    Will said not really, he gets fleeting thoughts.

    [34:40] What your biggest way of coping with uncomfortable feelings?

    Will said you get comfortable with being uncomfortable. Once he started to take his sobriety seriously, he accepted the program he was being told to work. He can now make sense of his feelings without alcohol numbing them down. There's purpose in the struggles we go through.

    [37:45] Have you healed the nerve damage in your feet at all?

    Will said the rest of his body has healed which helps the pain overall. That makes the nerve pain manageable as a whole. He looks at the pain as a high power telling him to move. So that's actually the gift that came from all this.

    [40:12] When you left treatment, what was your plan?

    Will said he jumped into AA. He was open to anything recovery related.

    [43:55] What's your favorite NA drink?

    Will said he's a club soda guy. Nothing fancy.

    [44:27] Have you ever gotten push back from people?

    Will said no one has given him pushback on his desire to lead a life without alcohol. But also, that's a little telling to the condition he was in, everyone could see he needed help.

    [45:47] Rapid Fire Round

    1. If you could talk to day 1 Will, what would you say?

    You're 100% worth it and you are a lot stronger than you could ever imagine.

    1. What are you excited about right now?

    Grateful to have the tools that he has and to see where this takes us and the ability to give back.

    1. What's your favorite flavor of ice cream?

    Salted caramel anything.

    1. What are your favorite resources outside of AA?

    Café RE, podcasts, self-help books, an in-person community

    1. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are thinking about ditching the booze?

    Life on the other side is beautiful. There's a life to be had out there.

    You may have to say adios to booze...

    If you're curing your hangovers with more alcohol, that's something that's hard to come back from.

    Odette's challenge this week:

    Take some time to access the challenges you are dealing with right now. Make a list of things you think you've been doing to navigate the situation. Don't judge yourself, just write them down, edit as you see fit. If there are things on that list you don't like, make a plan to change it.

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    RE 291: Do Better Sep 14, 2020
    Show notes

    Today we have Kevin. He took his last drink April 11, 2020. With just over 3 months away from alcohol (at the time of recording) this is his story of living alcohol free (AF).

    Today's Sponsor: Café RE Use the promo code CONNECT for one free month in the alcohol-free community Café RE.

    Odette's weekly installment of: Finding the Better You…..

    Receiving feedback and how to do better. After a negative comment / feedback from a listener, Odette took the comments and the feedback and is seeing this as an opportunity to do better. It seems these days that "do better" is being used more and explored. This was the universe reminding her that she is worthy, the listener is worthy, and everyone is worthy. She has gratitude and love for the listener because they allowed to her see something from a different perspective. If you have feedback, please send an email to Odette.

    [7:23] Odette introduces Kevin.

    Kevin is 59 and originally from Philadelphia, he has lives in Florida for the past 20 years. He's a printer and works for the schoolboard. He's married and loves cooking, traveling and doing charcoal portraits.

    [9:13] Can you give listeners some background on your drinking?

    Kevin said that when he was 7, he became the drink maker at his grandparents' card games. He would have some whiskey and ginger ale himself. In 4th grade he was bullied, so he would go home at lunch to eat but also to do a few shots of liquor so he could deal with that. In high school he fell in with a crowd that drank and also sold drugs. He continued in that pattern until he met his now wife at the age of 33. He quit the drugs, but his drinking continued to escalate. In 2017 he spent 3 days in a psych ward, leaving there he sent to AA and a counselor, but it never really took, and he relapsed.

    [12:26] Did anybody notice that all this was happening when you were so young?

    Kevin said that he was a latch key kid, so his use of alcohol wasn't noticed. And when he was in high school, he was always out of the house and with friends, so again, it wasn't noticed. However, he says that while in high school he knew he had a bad alcohol problem on his hands.

    [14:22] Did you ever reach out to somebody in those early days or was alcohol normalized in your family?

    Kevin said his grandfather owned a bar and his parents had an active social life and he was a bartender at different points, so alcohol was always a part of his life.

    [15:03] How did alcohol cause conflict in your marriage(s)?

    Kevin said in his first marriage they were both very immature and it wasn't ever going to last. With his second wife, he emulated her and wanted her to be proud of him. It never worked out however and he felt he was always disappointing her.

    [16:40] What happened that made you want to reach out and get help?

    Kevin said there were a lot of moments. Between injuries, unhealthy arguments and car accidents there were lots of red flags. He always thought he had it under control. He doesn't have an off switch.

    [18:55] What happened in April of this year?

    Kevin said this time he wanted to get sober and committed to AA, he didn't have another second chance in him. He was tired of playing the alcohol game, wondering where he would get more and having alcohol control his life.

    [20:49] What do you do when you get a craving?

    Kevin said he changes his environment right away. He gets out of where he is and tries to get a new headspace. In about 30 minutes time the craving is gone. He doesn't call them alcohol cravings, but more the idea of alcohol gets in his brain.

    Kevin uses the Merriam Webster app and it gives him a "word of the day". He takes that word and tries to apply it to his sobriety throughout the day. This gives him a fresh perspective to sobriety over and over.

    [23:00] Tell me about your family dynamics?

    Kevin said for 24 years he was a tornado leaving a path of devastation through his marriage. They are trying to figure things out and he wants his wife to be happy and have a good life.

    [26:02] What is your favorite thing about the AA program?

    Kevin said the communication and connection with other people in recovery.

    [28:20] Are there any other resources that have been helping you in this journey?

    Kevin said he always has something going on to fill his time. Between podcasts and reading or going to meetings.

    [28:58] What's your favorite NA drink?

    Iced coffee, with coffee ice cubes.

    [29:36] Did you notice a change in your sugar intake?

    Kevin said he never had a sweet tooth until he stopped drinking. But now he adds honey to his oats! He's trying to scale back his sugar intake.

    [30:52] What's your go-to response when someone offers you a drink?

    Kevin said he tells people "I'm an alcohol and I'm living it sober". He has no reservations about telling people.

    [31:30] Do you notice any pushback from people who you tell?

    Kevin said the friends he has in Florida are accepting and have been nothing but positive.

    [33:07] What are you excited about right now?

    Kevin is excited about the future. He wants to get involved with helping other people in recovery.

    [34:47] Has your sleep improved?

    Kevin said he wasn't a great sleeper throughout most of his life, so while that pattern remains, he's no longer sluggish and his body doesn't hurt. He feels rested.

    [31:30] Do you have to do virtual meetings during the pandemic?

    Kevin said his room has been open throughout the pandemic and he is a little unsure if he would have had success doing virtual meetings. He needs the in-person/human connections.

    [39:28] Have you been able to identify triggers?

    Kevin said he drank for so long that he's unsure if he actually has triggers. He drank simply because it was part of his life.

    [41:13] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What is a lightbulb moment you've had during this journey?

    Realizing he could go through the day without alcohol.

    1. What would you say to your younger self?

    Love and value yourself. You matter. You have something to offer.

    1. What's your favorite flavor of ice cream?

    Coffee with chocolate covered espresso beans on top.

    1. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are thinking about ditching the booze?

    It's important to stay focused and keep your sobriety in front of you. Stay focused on your interests and keep your mind active. Stress is a killer.

    You may have to say adios to booze...

    If you come back to your table from an open bar with 4 drinks and 2 shots in your hand and ask if anyone wants anything themselves.

    Odette's challenge this week:

    Try to build a practice around your negative self-talk. Swap out the negative with a kinder message for yourself. Give yourself the love you need.

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    RE 290: Let's Not Label This a Problem Sep 07, 2020
    Show notes

    Today we have Taylor. He took his last drink June 7, 2019. With just over 13 months away from alcohol (at the time of recording) this is his story of living alcohol free (AF).

    Odette's weekly installment of: Finding the Better You…..

    WAIT WAIT! It's Paul's 6 year Sober-versary! So instead we bring you Paul's 6 big insights since his handing off the podcast to Odette.

    • People are struggling right now due to Covid, but let's not label this as a problem. Let's go within and have some spiritual growth.
    • Turn off the news.
    • The ego always sets its own trap.
    • Pets are the reason the human race hasn't imploded yet.
    • He has gained empathy.
    • It's never too late to accomplish a goal.

    Bonus insight:

    • Paul's parents are RAD!

    [19:08] Paul introduces Taylor.

    Taylor is 30 years old and lives in Thornton, Colorado with his two dogs, Harley and Rooster. While he's lived in many places over the years, he grew up in Sacramento, California and now is in Colorado. He loves walking his dogs, record and write music, rock climbing, mountain biking, photography, hiking, skiing, snowboarding, wakeboarding, video editing and D&D. He likes to try all the hobbies now.

    [23:54] Can you give listeners some background on your drinking?

    Taylor said he started exploring alcohol around age 14. He wanted to see what alcohol was all about. He didn't really touch alcohol again until he was about 16, mostly in High School he smoked weed. However, alcohol did allow him to fit in. His father and stepmother caught him smoking weed in college and made the decision to send him to live with his mother. This started his "victims' story" because he wasn't allowed to smoke weed anymore, so he was "forced to drink alcohol". He saw his career grow however by quitting smoking weed, but there was alcohol ever present.

    At 26 he found himself trying to moderate alcohol. Just before he deployed to Afghanistan, he thought to stop drinking a few days before, and he found himself in withdrawals. After not drinking while overseas, he ordered a drink on the plane home. Being home he was again trying to moderate.

    [33:53] Tell me about going back to drinking after returning from Afghanistan?

    Taylor said that he understood that he had seen the "other side of life" and you can never really go back. Alcohol just isn't the same and he knew he was doomed. After his girlfriend left, was his rock bottom moment.

    [42:19] Walk me through those first 30 days?

    Taylor said he fully dove into recovery: "I sober like I drank". When his father left, he kept going to therapy and AA. His pink cloud lasted 3 months and the energies to stay sober were stronger than his desire to drink. He found a lot of humility and got a sponsor and started working the steps.

    [47:09] Can you share with listeners the difference between your 29th and your 30th birthdays?

    Taylor said on his 29th birthday was in his first 30 days of sobriety. He sat at home and he didn't have anything to do or anyone to hang out with. He called a newfound AA friend and he came over and they watched TV together. His 30th birthday he had 20 people show up to his birthday, from all parts of his life. He was humbled in that moment of the work that he had done to be the authentic Taylor.

    [50:44] Do you still get cravings?

    Taylor said yes. His alter drinking ego is named Gregory and he's no longer the enemy of Taylor. Gregory still tries to get him to drinking, but he can have the conversation with Gregory about why they aren't going to drink. Taylor treats Gregory like a sick child, with care and compassion. Cravings are now fleeting thoughts.

    [57:47] Rapid Fire Round

    1. What is your favorite ice cream flavor?

    Peanut butter and banana with candied bacon milkshake

    1. What would you say to your younger self?

    Slow down, be gentle, be kind.

    1. What are some of your favorite resources in recovery?

    People, AA, The Calm App, Nature, Café RE, a picture of a dog.

    Books:

    Wherever You Go, There You Are by Jon Kabat-Zinn

    The Tao of Pooh & The Te of Piglet by Benjamin Hoff

    1. What parting piece of guidance can you give listeners who are thinking about ditching the booze?

    To be kind to yourself today and do the next kind thing.

    You may have to say adios to booze...

    If you have driven to another state to buy more alcohol because the stores in your state are closed.

    Odette's final thoughts this week:

    Congratulations Paul. You are loved, supported and you are worth it.

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    "Recovery Elevator – "We took the elevator down, we have to take the stairs back up, we can do this – I love you guys"


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