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    Public Key

    Public Key is the cryptocurrency and compliance podcast, brought to you by Chainalysis.

    Every week Chainalysis Chief Marketing Officer, Ian Andrews sits down with thought leaders in the space to discuss
    ▪Emerging risks and opportunities in blockchain technology
    ▪How policymakers around the world are approaching crypto regulations
    ▪Data-driven insights into the latest trends in crypto economics and crime.
    ▪Breaking news in the crypto market

    Subscribe to be first to hear the Public Key podcast

    You can also stay up to date with crypto news by reading the industry leading Chainalysis blog and subscribing to the Chainalysis newsletter: https://blog.chainalysis.com/

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    To learn more about criminal activity in crypto including scams, money laundering, ransomware and more, download the 2023 Crypto Crime Report: https://go.chainalysis.com/2023-crypto-crime-report.html

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    ▪Twitter: https://twitter.com/IanAndrewsDC
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    ⚠Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.

    Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.

    Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.

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    MEV Dark Forest: The Mystery Behind Ethereum Frontrunning Aug 02, 2022
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    MEV Dark Forest: The Mystery Behind Ethereum Frontrunning

    In this episode of Public Key, our host, Ian Andrews (CMO at Chainalysis) is joined by the podcast’s first anonymous guest. Nicknamed “Hazard”, the CEO of Rook, demystifies the “Dark Forest” of one of the greatest challenges of the Ethereum, MEV, which stands for maximal extractable value. Hazard clarifies extremely technical concepts around frontrunning, sandwich attacks and Flashbots.

    Class is in session for this episode as Hazard provides informative insights into how MEV impacts users of Ethereum and explains why simple solutions being suggested could potentially compromise the decentralization of the network.

    Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
    • (2:05) – Hazard’s origin story as a Mathematician and stumbling across the Bitcoin Whitepaper and progressing from Discord to Core Team at Rook
    • (7:45) – What is MEV is and how it fits into the cryptocurrency technology stack
    • (13:49) – How do large mining pools and private mempools impact MEV
    • (20:00) – Should Ethereum users be genuinely concerned about market manipulation connected to MEV
    • (25:05) – How does the MEV problem get fixed or is it just a cost of doing business to ensure miners are actively participating
    • (28:55) – What is Rook.fi and how is it helping individuals and developers manage MEV
    • (32:15) – The methodology on how to ensure that the MEV goes back to the user versus only going to the miner
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    • Report: The Chainalysis State of Web3 Report
    • Webinar: The State of Web: Watch On Demand (with Ethan McMahon and Kim Grauer
    • Website: Rook Website
    • Article: Flash Boys 2.0: Frontrunning in Decentralized Exchanges, Miner Extractable Value, and Consensus Instability
    • Case Study: Rook Whale Case Study
    • Blog: Introducing Chainalysis Government Solutions
    Speakers on today’s episode
    • Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis) https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianhandrews
    • “Hazard” (CEO, Rook) https://twitter.com/0x81B

    This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein.

    Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.

    Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.

    Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.


    What You Need To Know Before The EU’s MiCA and Travel Rule Regulations Comes Into Effect Jul 26, 2022
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    What You Need To Know Before The EU's MiCA and Travel Rule Regulations Comes Into Effect

    In this episode of Public Key, our host, Ian Andrews (CMO at Chainalysis) is joined by podcast, Caroline Malcolm (Head, International Public Policy & Research, Chainalysis), whose been filling the Chainalysis blogs with insights and clarification on the EU’s emerging Markets in Crypto-Assets (MiCA) and Travel Rule regulations and what it means for the crypto industry.

    Caroline and Ian discuss the impact of these regulations on personal wallets, stablecoins and licensing requirements, while identifying where NFTs and DeFi land in this new regulatory framework. This is a must listen for those trying to understand the most comprehensive cryptocurrency regulations of any jurisdiction globally to date.

    Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
    • (1:55) – Describing EU’s regulatory mandate regarding crypto assets as it relates to MICA and the Transfer Fund Regulation
    • (5:15) – Insights into the Travel Rule and How the EU’s TFR implementation goes beyond FATF recommendations
    • (9:30) – The EU’s stance regarding unhosted / personal wallets
    • (13:50) – Balancing collection of identification information by Crypto Asset Service Providers (CASPs) and privacy mandates
    • (16:05) –Can crypto users exploit and circumvent the EU policy objectives around proof of wallet ownership
    • (19:08) - What topics MiCA does cover and what is excluded (NFTs and DeFi) from the pending regulations
    • (24:05) - What is a CASP and how does discrepancies in definitions create challenges for cryptocurrency firm
    • (26:15) - How former Facebook’s Diem project influenced MiCAs stance on stablecoins and asset referenced tokens
    • (29:30) - Does MiCA have the opportunity to set the standard when it comes to market manipulation regulations
    • (32:00) How does environmental concerns over proof of work protocols impact MiCA regulations
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    • Blog: EU Agrees on Comprehensive Cryptocurrency Regulations: Part 1 of Our Breakdown
    • Blog: Breaking Down the EU’s New Cryptocurrency Regulations, Part 2: The MiCA Licensing Regime
    • Podcast / Blog: Everything You Need To Know About The Cryptocurrency Travel Rule
    • Report:The Chainalysis State of Web3 Report
    • Webinar: The State of Web: Watch On Demand (with Ethan McMahon and Kim Grauer)
    • Video: Chainalysis Links New York 2022 (Video Replays)

    Speakers on today’s episode

    • Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis) https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianhandrews
    • Caroline Malcolm (Head, International Public Policy & Research, Chainalysis)
      https://www.linkedin.com/in/malcolmcaroline

    This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein.

    Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.

    Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.

    Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.


    Why Crypto Mixer Usage Has Reached All-time Highs in 2022 Jul 18, 2022
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    Why Crypto Mixer Usage Has Reached All-time Highs in 2022

    In this episode of Public Key, our host, Ian Andrews (CMO at Chainalysis) sets a new podcast first, by recording live in the New York Studio. Ian is joined by podcast favorite, Kim Grauer (Director of Research, Chainalysis), who is the lead researcher on the recent blog, Crypto Mixer Usage Reaches All-time Highs in 2022…

    Funds going to mixers in 2022 have doubled over last year and Ian and Kim cover how mixers are used in the crypto ecosystem and the large amount of illicit funds that are being received by them. They also discuss recent law enforcement action against mixers and the surge in smart contract mixers correlated with recent DeFi hacks.

    Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
    • (2:05) – Highlighting the year over year increase of cryptocurrency being sent to mixers
    • (5:01) –Understanding the legitimate uses of utilizing cryptocurrency mixers and how mixers could be more compliant
    • (7:25) – Breaking down the stats of how much illicit activity is connected to crypto mixers
    • (8:45) – The sudden rise in scrutiny and law enforcement action on mixers
    • (12:05) – The strategy behind crypto mixers issuing their own tokens
    • (14:20) - Identifying and describing the differences between the 3 main types of crypto mixers
    • (16:10) - How the surge in hacking has changed the landscape in money laundering using mixers
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    • Blog: Crypto Mixer Usage Reaches All-time Highs in 2022 With Nation State Actors and Cybercriminals Contributing Significant Volume
    • Report:The Chainalysis State of Web3 Report
    • Webinar: The State of Web: Watch On Demand (with Ethan McMahon and Kim Grauer)
    • Blog: Defi Hacks Are on the Rise
    • Blog: How the Crypto Industry Can Leverage Blockchains’ Transparency to Understand and Prevent Market Contagion
    • Video: Chainalysis Links New York 2022 (Video Replays)
    Speakers on today’s episode
    • Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis) https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianhandrews
    • Kim Grauer (Director of Research, Chainalysis) https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberly-grauer-a9501144

    This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein.

    Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.

    Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.

    Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.


    Putting The Stability Back Into Stablecoins Jul 11, 2022
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    Putting The Stability Back Into Stablecoins

    In this episode of Public Key, our host, Ian Andrews (CMO at Chainalysis) is joined by Caroline Hill, Director of Global Policy and Regulatory Strategy, at Circle, who brings her 7+ years of US Treasury Department experience to discuss the regulatory regime around stablecoins, the impact of rushing to create CBDCs and Circle’s ambition to be the most regulated stablecoin.

    The conversation highlights that not all stablecoins are created equal and touches on the epic failure of the Terra LUNA stablecoin and how more transparency regarding reserves is needed. She also covers some of the exciting and innovative products coming out of Circle including Verite and the Euro stablecoin, EUROC.

    Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
    • (2:15) – Caroline’s origin story going from detecting sanction evaders to innovative financial technologies helping with remittances
    • (5:45) – Why the USA financial system is fine but far from being innovative leader
    • (9:45) – Does international policy and regulation in crypto foster financial innovation
    • (14:11) – The stability behind USDC and the use case for stablecoins
    • (18:25) – Would CBDCs be a good idea for government, private sectors, traditional FIs and financial inclusion?
    • (23:55) – Is China weaponizing their CBDC and making mitigating sanctions evasion more difficult
    • (25:00) –Not all stablecoins are stable and not all created equally
    • (28:15) – How digital identity can be privacy preserving yet meet AML requirements without creating vulnerable honeypots
    • (30:10) – Conducting “follow the money” investigations with stablecoins
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    • Report:The Chainalysis State of Web3 Report
    • Webinar: The State of Web: Watch On Demand (with Ethan McMahon and Kim Grauer)
    • Circle Blog: Circle Yield. Built Differently.
    • Circle Blog: Reflections on Europe’s Markets in Crypto-Assets Framework (MICA)
    • Website: Verite: Decentralized identity for crypto finance
    • Circle Blog:Circle’s newest stablecoin, Euro Coin (EUROC) is here
    • Circle Blog: Information about Circle’s reserves and redemptions
    Speakers on today’s episode
    • Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis) https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianhandrews
    • Caroline Hill (Director of Global Policy and Regulatory Strategy, Circle) https://www.linkedin.com/in/caroline-hill-4a1b7814

    This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein.

    Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.

    Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.

    Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.


    Behind the Scenes of the Chainalysis State of Web3 Report Jul 05, 2022
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    Behind the Scenes of the Chainalysis State of Web3 Report

    In this episode of Public Key, our host, Ian Andrews (CMO at Chainalysis) fresh off the Chainalysis Links Conferences in APAC region, returns just as the State of the Web3 Report hits newsstands. Ian is joined by colleague, Ethan McMahon (Economist, Chainalysis), who is the lead researcher on the highly anticipated Web3 Report.

    The conversation covers the biggest topics featured in the report including adoption trends of new Layer1 and Layer 2 blockchains, the rise of decentralized exchanges and identity in web3 and everything you need to know about staking, gaming and the digital real estate in the metaverse.

    Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
    • (2:15) – Ethan’s origin story and timing the markets
    • (4:45) – How crypto got content and what does that mean for the future of web3
    • (7:05) – Programmable money and building on top of the top blockchains
    • (11:10) –How the blockchain can be used to solve for identity issues of web2
    • (15:15) – The Evolution of Ethereum Name Service (ENS) and identity
    • (17:50) –Decentralized Exchanges gaining popularity over Centralized Exchanges in recent years
    • (20:13) –Staking on Ethereum being outpaced by Solana Blockchain
    • (22:30) – Gaming, The Metaverse and soaring digital real estate prices
    Related resources

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    • Report: The Chainalysis State of Web3 Report
    • Webinar: The State of Web: Watch On Demand (with Ethan McMahon and Kim Grauer)
    • Blog: How the Crypto Industry Can Leverage Blockchains’ Transparency to Understand and Prevent Market Contagion
    • Blog: New Layer 1 Blockchains Are Expanding the DeFi Ecosystem But No Eth Killers Yet
    • Report: a16z: Introducing the 2022 State of Crypto Report
    • Video: Chainalysis Links New York 2022 (Video Replays)
    Speakers on today’s episode
    • Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis) https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianhandrews
    • Ethan McMahon (Economist, Chainalysis)

    This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein.

    Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.

    Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.

    Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.


    Blockchain Investigations and Illicit Threats Emerging In Crypto Ecosystem Jun 28, 2022
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    Blockchain Investigations and Illicit Threats Emerging In Crypto Ecosystem

    In this episode of Public Key, our host, Ian Andrews (CMO at Chainalysis) is joined live from New York City at the Chainalysis Links Conference by Erin Plante, who leads our Investigations and Special Projects team and discusses the intricacies of complex blockchain investigations and quick responses to major platform hacks

    The conversation covers a wide range of topics, including the aftermath of a crypto exchange being sanctioned, DeFi platforms as the popular target for crypto theft and state sponsored attacks and how we might improve consumer protection in Web3.

    Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
    (2:30) – Erin Plante’s origin story on buying bitcoin from strangers on craigslist
    (5:45) – Emerging trends in crypto crime and the evolution from darknet payments to ransomware proceeds
    (10:25) –OFAC’s increased action against high risk exchange’s obfuscation of proceeds of ransomware
    (14:15) –How public private partnerships are increasing the ability to recover stolen or hacked funds
    (15:45) –Weighing the pros and cons of decentralization and consumer protection
    (19:08) – Describing the panic after the first few hours after a cryptocurrency hack
    (22:32) – North Korea’s powerful hacker cells and international cyber warfare
    (23:50) –How Google and Chainalysis tackled botnet cybercrime including Glupteba malware

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    • Report:The Chainalysis State of Web3 Report (Reserve your copy - Coming June 2022)
    • Webinar: The State of Web: June 30, 2022 at 11am ET (with Ethan McMahon, Economist)
    • Blog: Meet the Malware Families Helping Hackers Steal and Mine Millions in Cryptocurrency
    • Blog: New Layer 1 Blockchains Are Expanding the DeFi Ecosystem But No Eth Killers Yet
    • Reply All Podcast :A podcast about the internet, that is actually an unfailingly original exploration of modern life and how to survive it.
    • Company News: Introducing the Chainalysis Crypto Incident Response Program
    • Video: Chainalysis Links New York 2022 (Video Replays)

    Speakers on today’s episode


    Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis) https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianhandrews

    Erin Plante (Senior Director of Investigations, Chainalysis) https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinplante

    This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein.


    Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.


    Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.


    Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.


    Chainalysis: The Past, The Present, The Future Jun 20, 2022
    Show notes

    Chainalysis: The Past, The Present, The Future

    In this episode of Public Key, our host, Ian Andrews (CMO at Chainalysis) is joined live from New York City at Chainalysis Links Conference with co-founders of Chainalysis, Jonathan Levin (Chief Strategy Officer) and Michael Gronager (Chief Executive Officer) and talk about the early days of the Bitcoin community and going from skeptic to believer after over a decade in the space.


    The conversation goes into the backstory of the Chainalysis Cofounders as they build one of the key infrastructures in the cryptocurrency ecosystem. They cover everything from building during a bear market, the product launches of Storyline and Playbook, to the innovations they are most excited about as the future of blockchain technology expands.

    Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
    • (2:05) – Michael’s crypto origin stories, Mt. Gox hacks and the crypto community during the early blocks
    • (4:45) – Jonathan early thoughts of crypto arbitrage and the economic incentives that secured Bitcoin
    • (6:45) – Going from Bitcoin Skeptic to Bitcoin Believer over the last decade
    • (9:10) –How the crypto market downturn can be used to build the innovation that leads to the next bull run
    • (13:15) – The future and innovation of the blockchain being used in new ways
    • (14:57) – Speculation on the price of Bitcoin
    Related resources

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    • Report:The Chainalysis State of Web3 Report (Reserve your copy - Coming June 2022)
    • Blog: How the Crypto Industry Can Leverage Blockchains’ Transparency to Understand and Prevent Market Contagion
    • Blog: New Layer 1 Blockchains Are Expanding the DeFi Ecosystem But No Eth Killers Yet
    • Company News: Introducing Chainalysis Storyline: The First Blockchain Analysis Tool Designed for Web3
    • Company News: Chainalysis Doubles Private Sector Business and Raises New Funding to Double Its Valuation to $8.6 Billion
    • Webinar: The State of Web: June 30, 2022 at 11am ET (with Ethan McMahon, Economist)
    • Video: Chainalysis Links New York 2022 (Video Replays)
    Speakers on today’s episode
    • Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis) https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianhandrews
    • Jonathan Levin (Co-Founder and Chief Strategy Officer, Chainalysis) https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonylevin
    • Michael Gronager (Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer, Chainalysis) https://www.linkedin.com/in/gronager

    This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein.

    Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.

    Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.

    Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.


    What Does Crypto VC Funding Look Like In A Bear Market? Jun 13, 2022
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    What Does Crypto VC Funding Look Like In A Bear Market?

    In this episode of Public Key, our host, Ian Andrews (CMO at Chainalysis) is joined by Ed Sim (Founder and Managing Partner, Boldstart Ventures) to discuss what it takes to build companies in an economic downturn, how he finds great founders and what crypto tech gets him excited.
    The conversation addresses tokenization versus infrastructure and databases versus blockchain and reviews why Boldstart just raised two new funds to continue to build their crypto portfolio amidst heightened volatility and fear in the current bear market and various outcomes on enterprise blockchain use cases.

    Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
    • (2:05) – Boldstart’s crypto origin story of partnering with tech founders before company creation and creation of tipping using crypto
    • (4:25) – Boldstart partners with IBM to review blockchain enterprise use cases and future investment opportunities
    • (6:40) – The difference between needing a database versus a blockchain
    • (11:25) – The strategy to investing into the core infrastructure of crypto applications and user experience
    • (15:27) –Raising funds during a volatile or bear market
    • (18:00) – How investment into crypto is moving away from just projects with tokens to also projects with infrastructure alone
    • (26:18) –How do you pick crypto founders that are thinking long term sustainable growth to invest in
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    • Blog: The Trades That Triggered UST’s Collapse
    • Boldstart Newsletter: Ed Sim's weekly readings and notes on enterprise VC, software, and scaling startups
    • Boldstart Website: The Chainalysis 2022 Crypto Crime Report
    • Boldstart Fund Announcement: Announcing $367M in new Boldstart Venture Capital funds
    • Video: Chainalysis Links New York 2022 (Video Replays)
    Speakers on today’s episode
    • Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis) https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianhandrews
    • Ed Sim (Founder and Managing Partner, Boldstart Ventures) https://twitter.com/edsim

    This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein.

    Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.

    Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.

    Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.


    Crypto Custody In The Wake Of MICA Regulations Jun 06, 2022
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    Crypto Custody In The Wake Of MICA Regulations

    In this episode of Public Key, our host, Ian Andrews (CMO at Chainalysis) is joined by Alan Draguilow (Head of Product & Operations, Prosegur Crypto) to consider the impact of the controversial MICA regulations that are making their way through the EU legislative process. Alan talks about the evolution of Prosegur from physical to digital asset security and how this will enable financial institutions to feel safer in entering the crypto market.

    The conversation addresses the quickly moving adoption in Latin America and the challenges with the inconsistent approach to crypto regulations around the world for International companies attempting to release products globally.

    We are proud to highlight that Prosegur is a client of Chainalysis.

    Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
    • (2:19) – Alan’s origin story, why Ethereum blew his mind and being caught up in the DAO hack
    • (6:25) – What is Prosegur and how they are handling physical assets and crypto assets
    • (9:15) – The differences between physical asset security and digital asset custody
    • (12:00) – The cryptocurrency market and adoption in Spain
    • (14:27) – What is MICA and how does it impact cryptocurrency companies in the EU
    • (17:35) – Why banks and large financial institutions in Spain are waiting for MICA regulations before moving quickly into the crypto market
    • (20:20) – The issues with inconsistent regulation in EU and in USA and how International crypto companies navigate this area
    • (24:00) – How LATAM is leading the way in crypto regulation and adoption ahead of USA and the EU
    • (27:57) - How the remittance market between Europe and Latin has opened up a need for cryptocurrency
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    • Video: Chainalysis Links New York 2022 (Video Replays)
    • Blog: Banks Need to Understand Their Cryptocurrency Exposure Even If They Don’t Take Custody of Cryptocurrency
    • Announcement: Asset Reality and Chainalysis partner with Grant Thornton to offer pioneering solution for crypto recovery investigation
    • Article: Mutua Madrid Open and Prosegur include a smart robot dog in their security device for the first time
    • Report: The Chainalysis 2022 Crypto Crime Report
    • Website: Prosegur: Physical and Digital Asset Custodian
    Speakers on today’s episode
    • Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis) https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianhandrews
    • Alan Draguilow (Head of Product & Operations, Prosegur Crypto) https://www.linkedin.com/in/alan-draguilow

    **Note: We are proud to highlight that Prosegur is a Client of Chainalysis

    This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein.

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    The Lazarus Heist: A Peek Inside North Korea’s Global Cyber War May 30, 2022
    Show notes

    The Lazarus Heist: A Peek Inside North Korea's Global Cyber War

    In this episode of Public Key, our host, Ian Andrews (CMO at Chainalysis) along with International Investigative Journalist and Author, Geoff White who has just finished his book, The Lazarus Heist, brings the chapters to life discussing the Sony Productions sabotage, the biggest DeFi hack to date on Ronin Bridge Exchange and the cyber warfare on cryptocurrency exchanges and traditional financial institutions alike. Only Geoff could dive deep into the complexities and showmanship of the most well known, state sponsored criminal hacker group in the world. The Lazarus Group and capture such riveting details.

    Quote of the episode

    “It seems like a volume of hundred dollar bills that were counterfeit, over a long period of time, were originating out of North Korea. Like they were just printing their own US currency..- Ian Andrews (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis)

    Minute-by-minute episode breakdown
    • (1:19) – The origin story of Geoff White and using bitcoin to buy drugs on silk road
    • (5:45) – How the Lazarus Group Hackers crippled Sony Production Studios
    • (10:01) – How crippling sanctions has led North Korea to turn to illicit activity to fund their economy
    • (12:45) – The Superdollar and North Korea’s counterfeit USA hundred dollar bill operation
    • (16:27) – Why Lazarus Group was unable to complete a billion dollar heist
    • (18:05) – Explanation of the Axie Infinity Ronin Bridge Hack of $600 Million
    • (21:20) – How do get better reporting and intel regarding ransomware and cyber attacks
    • (23:00) – Is North Korea using dormant cryptocurrency addresses with stolen funds as an off-shore credit line?
    • (27:32) - The nuances of the hack of The Cosmos Bank in India using International accomplices found on the Dark Web
    Related resources

    Check out more resources provided by Chainalysis that perfectly complement this episode of the Public Key.

    • Video: Chainalysis Links New York 2022 (Video Replays)
    • Book: The Lazarus Heist: From Hollywood to High Finance: Inside North Korea's Global Cyber War
    • Podcast: The Lazarus Heist on BBC News World Service
    • Blog: Lazarus Group Pulled Off 2020’s Biggest Exchange Hack and Appears to be Exploring New Money Laundering Options
    • Blog: North Korean Hackers Have Prolific Year as Their Unlaundered Cryptocurrency Holdings Reach All-time High
    • Report: The Chainalysis 2022 Crypto Crime Report
    Speakers on today’s episode
    • Ian Andrews * Host * (Chief Marketing Officer, Chainalysis) https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianhandrews
    • Geoff White (Author, The Lazarus Heist: From Hollywood to High Finance: Inside North Korea's Global Cyber War) https://www.linkedin.com/in/geoffwhite247

    This website may contain links to third-party sites that are not under the control of Chainalysis, Inc. or its affiliates (collectively “Chainalysis”). Access to such information does not imply association with, endorsement of, approval of, or recommendation by Chainalysis of the site or its operators, and Chainalysis is not responsible for the products, services, or other content hosted therein.

    Our podcasts are for informational purposes only, and are not intended to provide legal, tax, financial, or investment advice. Listeners should consult their own advisors before making these types of decisions. Chainalysis has no responsibility or liability for any decision made or any other acts or omissions in connection with your use of this material.

    Chainalysis does not guarantee or warrant the accuracy, completeness, timeliness, suitability or validity of the information in any particular podcast and will not be responsible for any claim attributable to errors, omissions, or other inaccuracies of any part of such material.

    Unless stated otherwise, reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by Chainalysis. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. Views and opinions expressed by Chainalysis employees are those of the employees and do not necessarily reflect the views of the company.


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