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    Public Defenseless – Hunter Parnell

    Anyone paying attention can tell you that our criminal legal system is perpetuating cruelty and harm, but the complexity of the legal world overwhelms most people simply trying to get through another day.

    Public Defenseless explores the rot in the justice system and what we can do about it. Join host, Hunter Parnell, as he interviews top defense attorneys and criminal justice stakeholders from across the country as they pull apart the convoluted web of our criminal justice system.

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    471 | The Science of Second Chances w/Jennifer Doleac Apr 30, 2026
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    Today, Hunter was joined by Jennifer Doleac, Executive VP of Criminal Justice at Arnold Ventures and author of the book, The Science of Second Chances. Throughout the episode, Hunter and Jennifer discuss the evidence that supports rehabilitation as a purpose of punishment, the lack of evidence to support retribution as a purpose of punishment, and get into their disagreements about the role of policing in public safety.

    Guest:

    Jennifer Doleac, Executive VP of Criminal Justice, Arnold Ventures, Author, Science of Second Chances

    Resources:

    More from Jennifer Here

    https://jenniferdoleac.com/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    470 | Why did the Marion County Public Defenders Decide to Unionize Their Office w/Lucy Frick and Tim Smith Apr 28, 2026
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    Today, Hunter was joined by Lucy Frick and Tim Smith of the Marion County Public Defender Office in Indianapolis, Indiana. Over the past two years, Lucy, Tim and the rest of the office fought hard to unionize their office. This episode aims to help people understand why they fought so hard and why others should unionize their offices.

    Guest:

    Lucy Frick, Attorney, Major Felony Division, Marion County Public Defender

    Tim Smith, Social Worker, Major Felony Division, Marion County Public Defender

    Resources:

    Contact Lucy

    Lucy.Frick@indy.gov

    Learn More About the Office

    https://www.indy.gov/agency/marion-county-public-defender-agency

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    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    469 | How Tennessee's Mass Incarceration Policies are Making the State less Safe w/Dawn Deaner Apr 23, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined once again by Dawn Deaner, Executive Director of the Choosing Justice Initiative and a candidate for Davidson County Judge Criminal Court Division III. Dawn and Hunter discussed some major changes to the legal system in Tennessee that make it easier for the state to incarcerate people pre- and post-trial. As these policies have come into effect, Dawn has vocally opposed these practices because she understands the harms they do to the community, and that is part of why she hopes to join the bench in Davidson County.

    Guest:

    Dawn Deaner, Executive Director of the Choosing Justice Initiative and a candidate for Davidson County Judge Criminal Court Division III

    Resources:

    Learn More About Dawn's Campaign

    https://www.dawnfornashville.com/

    More from CJI

    https://cjinashville.org/

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    468 | How the New Jersey Public Defenders are Integrating AI into their Work w/Jennifer Sellitti Apr 21, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined once again by Jennifer Sellitti, the Public Defender for the state of New Jersey. This time, Hunter and Jennifer discussed a slew of topics including her efforts to expand holistic defender services across the state and how her office is leading the way in integrating AI tools into their practice.

    Guest:

    Jennifer Sellitti, The Public Defender for the State of New Jersey

    Resources:

    Learn More About NJ Public Defense

    https://www.nj.gov/defender/

    https://www.linkedin.com/company/89256782/

    https://www.facebook.com/njopd

    https://www.facebook.com/njopd

    https://x.com/opd_nj

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    467 | How Coroners Keep How People Die While in Police Custody Hidden from the Public w/Terence Keel Apr 16, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by Professor Terence Keel to discuss his book Coroner's Silence: Death Records and the Hidden Victims of Police Violence. Hunter and Terrance discussed the history of the coroner's office and how they are able to use the five categories of death classification to make it impossible to hold people accountable for death's in custody.

    Guest:

    Terence Keel, Professor, UCLA, Author, Coroner's Silence: Death Records and the Hidden Victims of Police Violence

    Resources:

    Contact Terence and Pick up a Copy of the Book Here

    https://www.terencekeel.com/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    466 | The Lawsuit Challenging How Missouri Treats People with Mental Illness Being Held Pre-Trial w/Maureen Hanlon and Anita Tabb Apr 14, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by Maureen Hanlon and Anita Tabb, two people fighting to change how Missouri treats people with mental illness in the states jails and prisons. Under Missouri law, a person who is found incompetent to stand trial is to have a competency evaluation conducted within 60 days of the court ordering it. Yet, people are often waiting 6 months just to be evaluated, and on average, people are spending 14 months in custody before they get the mental healthcare they are owed. Today, we are talking about the lawsuit aiming to change this practice.

    Guest:

    Maureen Hanlon, Attorney, Arch City Defenders

    Anita Tabb, Nurse and Mother of M, a Class Member in this class action law suit

    Resources:

    Read More About the Suit Here

    https://www.macarthurjustice.org/advocates-sue-missouri-department-of-mental-health-for-failing-to-treat-pretrial-detainees-living-with-mental-illness-and-disabilities/

    https://www.macarthurjustice.org/advocates-seek-preliminary-injunction-to-order-dmh-to-remedy-harms-caused-by-egregious-competency-waitlist/

    https://missouriindependent.com/2026/02/05/more-than-500-missourians-await-court-ordered-mental-health-services-languishing-in-jails/

    https://www.macarthurjustice.org/case/darrington-et-al-v-missouri-dmh/

    Learn More About Arch City Defenders Here

    https://www.archcitydefenders.org/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    465 | The Fines and Fees Justice Center's Campaigns to Break the Invisible Shackles of Court Fees and Fines w/Dylan Hayre and Emily King Apr 09, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by two amazing guests from the Fines and Fees Justice Center, Dylan Hayre and Emily King. They joined the show to discuss incredible campaigns in Arizona, North Dakota, and Oklahoma that have started to eliminate the fines and fees that keep people trapped in debt for decades.

    Guest:

    Dylan Hayre, National Advocacy and Campaign Director, Fines and Fees Justice Center

    Emily King, Senior Advocacy and Campaign Specialist, Fines and Fees Justice Center

    Resources:

    Learn More About FFJC Here

    https://finesandfeesjusticecenter.org/

    Arrests as Guilt

    https://scholarship.law.stjohns.edu/faculty_publications/217/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    464 | The Public Defender Hoping to Bring a New Generation of Leadership to Congress w/Vichal Kumar Apr 08, 2026
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    Today, Hunter was joined once again by Vichal Kumar. On previous episodes, Vichal joined to discuss the incredible work he has accomplished with Partners for Justice. Today, he joins the show to discuss how the lessons he has learned as a line PD and with PFJ are driving him to run for Congress in New York's 7th Congressional District.

    Guest:

    Vichal Kumar, Candidate for New York's 7th Congressional District

    Resources:

    Learn More About His Campaign Here

    https://www.kumar4ny.com/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    463 | How the Defenders Association of Philadelphia is Resisting Trump's Mass Deportation Agenda w/Lilah Thompson and Maria Thomson Apr 07, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by Lilah Thompson and Maria Thomson from the Defenders Association of Philadelphia. These two work in the office's immigration unit, and they joined the show to detail how their office has stepped up to resist Trump's plans for mass deportation.

    Guest:

    Lilah Thompson, Chief of the Immigration Unit, Defenders Association of Philadelphia

    Maria Thomson, Immigration Attorney, Defenders Association of Philadelphia

    Resources:

    Defenders Association of Philadelphia's Website

    https://phillydefenders.org/immigration-law-practice/

    Temple University Report

    https://law.temple.edu/csj/2024/09/04/moshannan-valley-processing-center/

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    462 | How Restorative Justice Could Transform What Public Safety Looks Like w/Amanda Carrasco Apr 02, 2026
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    Today, Hunter was joined by Amanda Carrasco a restorative justice advocate and author of Becoming the Brave One. Throughout her life, Amanda has dealt with tremendous trauma from surviving multiple sexual assaults and the murder of her close family friends. Despite those experiences, Amanda is a champion for different approaches to the criminal legal system in the form of restorative justice practices.

    Guest:

    Amanda Carrasco, Author and Advocate for Restorative Justice Practices

    Resources:

    Find Amanda's work and Book Here

    https://amandacarrasco.com/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


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