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    Public Defenseless – Hunter Parnell

    Anyone paying attention can tell you that our criminal legal system is perpetuating cruelty and harm, but the complexity of the legal world overwhelms most people simply trying to get through another day.

    Public Defenseless explores the rot in the justice system and what we can do about it. Join host, Hunter Parnell, as he interviews top defense attorneys and criminal justice stakeholders from across the country as they pull apart the convoluted web of our criminal justice system.

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    481 | Was a Former Colorado Public Defender Fired for Raising Concerns over his Workload? Part 2 w/Travis Weiner May 27, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined once again by Travis Weiner, the former Colorado Public Defender who is suing the Colorado Public Defender System. On a previous episode, Travis detailed that he sued the state because he believed that OSPD retaliated against him for trying to do something about his unethical workloads. Today, Travis joins to discuss the most recent substantive hearing in his case to discuss the important take aways.

    Guest:

    Travis Weiner, Public Defender, New Mexico

    Resource:

    Google Drive with Relevant Documents

    https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NVuuL9L6BUH8xBggXKnUMvsqJvSygk38?usp=drive_link

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    480 | Did the Colorado Public Defender Retaliate Against Me for My Speech on the Podcast? May 26, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter shared the results of unfair labor complaint against the Colorado State Public Defender system.

    Guest:

    Resource:

    Google Drive with Relevant Documents

    https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1poeBD8pjrxLaMDTaCgN1lX12n3NKE0h5?usp=drive_link

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    479 | What Data Tells Us About the Public Defender Well Being Crisis Part 2 w/Jenny Andrews, Matthew Thiese, and Sara McCarthy May 21, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined once again by Jenny Andrews and for the first time Matthew Thiese and Sarah McCarthay. As was the case on Tuesday, this episode is a continued discussion about the National Public Defender Well-Being Study. This time, the focus is on the upcoming phase two that people can participate in starting June 1.

    Guest:

    Jenny Andrews, Director, Be Sustained

    Matthew These Ph.D., Professor, Utah University School of Medicine

    Sarah McCarthy, Chief Assistant Public Defender, Santa Clara, California

    Resource:

    Find Everything About the Study Here

    https://besustained.org/

    Contact Matthew Here

    https://medicine.utah.edu/faculty/matthew-s-thiese

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    478 | The Effect of Public Defender and Support Staff Caseloads on Incarceration Outcomes for Felony Defendants w/Aaron Gottlieb and Melissa Mahabir May 20, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by Aaron Gottlieb and Melissa Mahabir to discuss how excessive workloads drive worse outcomes for the people public defenders work for.

    Guest:

    Aaron Gottlieb, Associate Professor, University of Chicago Crown Family School of Social Work, Policy and Practice

    Melissa Mahabir, Social Worker and Former Mitigation Specialist

    Resource:

    Read the Article Here

    https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/712924

    Contact Aaron Here

    https://crownschool.uchicago.edu/directory/aaron-gottlieb

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    *** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER***


    477 | What Data Tells Us About the Public Defender Well Being Crisis Part 1 w/Jenny Andrews and Jon Jachimowicz May 19, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined once again by Jenny Andrews and for the first time Professor Jon Jachimowicz. Over the past year, Jenny, Jon, and the amazing team working with Be Sustained have been conducting a study about Public Defender Well Being. This episode details the findings from phase one of that study.

    Guest:

    Jenny Andrews, Director, Be Sustained

    Jon Jachimowicz, Assistant Professor, Harvard Business School

    Resource:

    Find Everything About the Study Here

    https://besustained.org/

    Contact Jon Here

    https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/profile.aspx?facId=1175257

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    476 | What Can Public Defender Organizations Do to Help People With Their Student Debt? w/Jane Fox and Alexi Shalom May 14, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined once again by Jane Fox and for the first time Alexi Shalom. These two have been working tirelessly to develop programs that can help members of their union deal with crushing student debt. Today, these two join to explain those programs and what else Public Defender leaders can do to help their people with student debt.

    Guest:

    Jane Fox, Legal Aid Society and Unit Chair, ALAA Local 2325

    Alexi Shalom, Ed Rep, UAW Region 9A

    Resource:

    Learn More Here

    https://region9a.uaw.org/education

    Contact Jane

    jfox@alaa.org

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    475 | Why is Cook County's State Attorney Fighting to Keep Exonerated People From Getting Certificates of Their Innocence w/Dan Hinkel May 13, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined once again by Dan Hinkel. Dan is an investigative journalist with Injustice Watch, and today, he joined the show to talk about the third instalment of his series called "Denying Innocence." This series details how the new Cook County State Attorney, Eileen O'Neil Burke has changed how her office handles wrongful convictions. This episode is about how Burke's office is now fighting to keep exonerated people from getting certificates to show their innocence.

    Guest:

    Dan Hinkel, Investigative Journalist, Injustice Watch

    Resource:

    Read the Series Here:

    https://www.injusticewatch.org/projects/denying-innocence/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    474 | The Lawyer Who Will Take on Corporations and Corrupt Government as Colorado's Attorney General w/David Seligman May 12, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by David Seligman, a civil rights, workers' rights, consumers' rights lawyer and candidate for Attorney General in Colorado. David joined the show to discuss why he decided to run and the ambitious plans he has to use the office of the Attorney General to fight for working class Coloradans.

    Guest:

    David Seligman, Candidate for Attorney General, Colorado

    Resource:

    Find David's Campaign Here

    https://www.seligmanforag.com/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    473 | Public Defenders Should Tell the Courts and Their Clients How Many Cases they Have w/John Gross May 07, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined once again by Professor John Gross. This time, the two discuss a recent article published by John that offers public defenders another strategy to deal with excessive workloads.

    Guest:

    John Gross, Professor of Law, University of Wisconsin

    Resources:

    Read John's Article Here

    https://www.uclalawreview.org/caseload-transparency-a-new-approach-to-the-ethics-of-excessive-caseloads/

    Contact John Here

    https://law.wisc.edu/profiles/john.gross

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


    472 | Can Former Public Defenders Improve the Bench in Multnomah County, Oregon? w/Kristine Almquist, Joe Hagedorn, Peter Klym, Joanna Perini-Abott, Chris Behre May 05, 2026
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter was joined by five former public defenders, all running for a judicial position in Multnomah County, Oregon. Hunter and the candidates discuss how they view the role of a judge to solve various issues that might come before the court.

    Guest:

    Kristine Almquist, Full Time Judicial Officer, Candidate for Judicial Position 14, Multnomah County, Oregon

    Peter Klym, Deputy Public Defender, Appellate Division, OPDC, Candidate for Judicial Position 12, Multnomah County, Oregon

    Joanna Perini-Abott, Professor of Law, Lewis and Clark School of Law, Candidate for Judicial Position 5, Multnomah County, Oregon

    Chris Behre, Public Defender, Candidate for Judicial Position 2, Multnomah County, Oregon

    Joe Hagedorn, Referee/Judge Pro Tem, Juvenile Court, Candidate for Judicial Position 14, Multnomah County, Oregon

    Resources:

    Learn More About the Candidates Here:

    https://www.almquistforjudge.com/

    https://www.peterforjudge.com/

    https://behreforjudge.com/home

    https://jpaforjudge.com/

    https://www.hagedornforjudge.com/

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    **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****


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