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    Public Defenseless – Hunter Parnell

    Anyone paying attention can tell you that our criminal legal system is perpetuating cruelty and harm, but the complexity of the legal world overwhelms most people simply trying to get through another day.

    Public Defenseless explores the rot in the justice system and what we can do about it. Join host, Hunter Parnell, as he interviews top defense attorneys and criminal justice stakeholders from across the country as they pull apart the convoluted web of our criminal justice system.

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    255 | The Dangers of a Conviction Based on the Testimony of One Person w/Eric Tindal Jul 16, 2024
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter is joined by Eric Tindal, a criminal defense attorney in Iowa. Today's discussion focuses on the question, how much evidence does it take to convict someone. Specifically, Hunter and Eric discussed how a single uncorroborated testimony can be sufficient to secure a conviction. This episode kicks off a miniseries comparing what evidence is perfectly fine for prosecutors to rely on and what evidence is barred from even being heard when the defense wants to use it.

    Guests:

    Eric Tindal, Criminal Defense Attorney, Iowa

    Resources:

    Email Eric

    eric@keeganlegal.com

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

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    *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*


    254 | The Former Bronx Defender Campaigning to Bring Holistic Defense to Florida's 9th Judicial Circuit w/Lenora Easter Jul 11, 2024
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    Today, Hunter is joined by Lenora Easter, a candidate for the Public Defender position in Orange and Osceola Counties. As a former Bronx Defender and member of Partners for Justice, Lenora understands the importance of a holistic defense practice. In her adopted home of Orange and Osceola Counties, Lenora sees an absence of that holistic practice and a loud voice in the community as a short coming of the current Public Defender practice. By becoming the elected Public Defender for the circuit, Lenora hopes to inject Public Defense with a fresh slate of ideas, programs, and energy needed to revitalize Public Defense.

    Guests:

    Lenora Easter, Candidate for Public Defender of the 9th Judicial District, Orange and Osceola County, FL

    Resources:

    Lenora Easter Website

    https://www.lenoraeaster.com/

    Lenora Easter Instagram

    https://www.instagram.com/lenoraeasterforpublicdefender/

    Register to Vote Florida

    https://registertovoteflorida.gov/home

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patron

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

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    *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*


    253 | The ACLU Lawsuit Seeking to Radically Change Pennsylvania Public Defense w/Vic Walczak and Veronica Miller Jul 10, 2024
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter is joined by two amazing guests from the ACLU of Pennsylvania. Vic Walczak and Veronica Miller join the show to discuss the newest ACLU lawsuit being brought against Pennsylvania for its failure to adequately fund public defense. As we heard last week on the show, things in Pennsylvania Public Defense are failing because of Pennsylvania utterly failing to meet its obligations as a state to fund Public Defense, but why sue now? After all, under Governor Shapiro, the state has allocated its first money towards Public Defense ever. As you will here today, this lawsuit has been a long time coming, and hopefully, with it will come the types of overhaul necessary to ensure the promise of Gideon is fulfilled in Pennsylvania.

    Guests:

    Vic Walczak, Legal Director, ACLU of Pennsylvania

    Veronica Miller, Senior Policy Counsel for Criminal Legal Reform, ACLU of Pennsylvania

    Resources:

    ACLU of PA

    Twitter: https://x.com/aclupa

    Website: https://www.aclupa.org/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aclupa

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/aclupa

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aclupa/

    Complaint: https://www.aclupa.org/sites/default/files/field_documents/warren_v_commonwealth_petition_for_review_-_final.pdf

    Read more about the case: https://www.aclupa.org/en/defenders

    UPenn Study: https://www.law.upenn.edu/live/news/16737-significant-public-defender-shortage

    2011 Report: http://jsg.legis.state.pa.us/resources/documents/ftp/publications/2011-265-indigent%20defense.pdf

    Law Suit Against Luzerne County

    https://www.aclupa.org/en/cases/kuren-v-luzerne-county-formerly-flora-v-luzerne-county

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*


    252 | The Rise, Fall, and Disbarment of Florida's Worst Chief Public Defender w/Andrew Pantazi Jul 09, 2024
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter is joined by journalist Andrew Pantazi to tell the story of Florida's worst Chief Public Defender, Matt Shirk. For more than a decade, Andrew and his colleagues have been covering the story of Shirk who served two terms as Jacksonville's elected public defender. During his time as the chief, Shirk oversaw a systemic practice of sexual harassment, drove out some his best attorneys and replaced them with his incompetent or unqualified friends, and attempted to get his juvenile client tried as an adult. Mercifully, Shirk was recently disbarred, but how did he come to this position, how did he stay there, why did it take so long for accountability to come, and ultimately, what does this say about public defense in Florida? All that and more in today's episode!

    Guests:

    Andrew Pantazi, Editor, The Tributary, Jacksonville, Florida

    Resources:

    Tributary Website

    https://jaxtrib.org/

    Follow Andrew on Twitter

    https://x.com/apantazi?lang=en

    Coverage of Matt Shirk

    https://jaxtrib.org/2024/03/14/former-jacksonville-public-defender-matt-shirk-disbarred/

    https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/crime/2017/01/01/public-defender-matt-shirk-had-lowest-paid-attorneys-paid-friends-generously/15737626007/

    https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/crime/2016/08/24/matt-shirks-top-assistant-has-been-ineffective-four-times-raising/15722013007/

    https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/2019/08/01/former-jacksonville-public-defender-matt-shirk-gave-away-guns-money-after-failed-reelection/4546395007/

    https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/politics/2016/08/22/public-defender-matt-shirk-has-moved-scandals-and-hopes-voters-have-too/15721761007/

    https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/politics/elections/local/2018/12/21/more-than-five-years-after-his-scandals-matt-shirk-still-hasnt-faced-any-discipline/6576816007/

    https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/politics/2013/08/25/stub-295/15818394007/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

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    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

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    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patron

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    *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*


    251 | What Can Save Pennsylvania Public Defense w/Sara Jacobson, Autumn Johnson, Samuel Encarnacion Jul 04, 2024
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter is joined by three Public Defenders from the state of Pennsylvania to get a feel for how Public Defense is fairing outside of the Philadelphia. Autumn Johnson, Sara Jacobson, and Samuel Encarnacion join the show to discuss what's happening in Mercer County, Lancaster County, and around the state. Recently, Pennsylvania dedicated its first ever state level funding for Public Defense, but is it too little too late? With a new ACLU lawsuit having just dropped, it will be interesting how the state responds to the crisis of Public Defense in Pennsylvania?

    Guests:

    Sara Jacobson, Executive Director, Public Defender Association of Pennsylvania

    Samuel Encarnacion, First Assistant Public Defender, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania

    Autumn Johnson, Chief Public Defender, Mercer County, Pennsylvania

    Resources:

    UPenn Public Defender Study

    https://www.law.upenn.edu/live/news/16737-significant-public-defender-shortage

    PDAP

    https://www.papublicdefenders.com/

    Email Sara

    sjacobson.pdap@gmail.com

    Email Autumn

    aljohnson@mercercountypa.gov

    Email Sam

    encarnas@lancastercountypa.gov

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patron

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

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    *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*


    250 | Why did the Bronx Defender's Union Vote to go on Strike? w/Tyler Johnson, Marlene Marte, Katherine Azcona Jul 03, 2024
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter is joined by three members of the Bronx Defenders Union, Tyler Johnson, Katerine Azcona, and Marlene Marte. This episode comes on the heels of the Bronx Defenders Union authorizing a strike starting July 1. Over the past several months, the union and leadership have been unable to come to terms on a contract, and now, we could see the first strike in NY Public Defense since 1993. What is driving it? Why has the union reached this point? All that and more on today's episode!

    Guests:

    Tyler Johnson, Legal Advocate, Civil Action Practice, Bronx Defenders

    Marlene Marte, Immigration Legal Advocate, Bronx Defenders

    Katherine Azcona, Staff Attorney, Family Defense, Bronx Defenders

    Resources:

    BxD Union Twitter

    https://x.com/BxDUnion?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    BxD Union Instagram

    https://www.instagram.com/bxdunion/?hl=en

    If you'd like to support the Bronx Defender's Union while they strike, you can donate here

    https://givebutter.com/communitystrikefund

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patron

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Donate on PayPal

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    https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

    *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*


    249 | Angela Chang and Brooke Burns: How Ohio Public Defenders Push Back Against the Return of the "Super Predator" Myth Jul 02, 2024
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter is joined by Brooke Burns and Angela Chang, two Ohio Public Defenders working tirelessly to stop the return of the "Super Predator" myth. Over the past 40 years, the language has changed, but the outcome has remained the same: our communities have responded to real and perceived rises in crime by policing and incarcerating certain groups of young people. That practice is alive and well in Ohio, but with the work of people like Brooke and Angela, communities have a shot at creating accountability systems for kids that do not rely on the criminal legal system.

    Guests:

    Angela Chang, Director of Youth Defense Division, Hamilton County, Ohio

    Brooke Burns, Managing Counsel, Youth Defense, Ohio Public Defender

    Resources:

    Ohio Office of the Public Defender

    https://opd.ohio.gov/

    Hamilton County Public Defender

    https://www.hamiltoncountypd.org/

    https://www.instagram.com/hamcopubdef/?locale=kk-KZ

    Coverage of the Killing of Tavion Koonce-Williams

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ohio-police-release-body-camera-video-officer-shooting-15-year-old-boy-rcna147023

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patron

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Donate on PayPal

    https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ

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    *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*


    248 | Scarlett Lewis: After Her Son was Murdered at Sandy Hook, One Mother's Fight to Reduce Violence by Choosing Love Jun 27, 2024
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter sat down for a powerful conversation with Scarlett Lewis. Scarlett's son Jesse Lewis was one of the children murdered in the Sandy Hook school shooting. In the wake of this tragedy, Scarlett grappled with the grief, sadness, and anger that any person would face. Yet, Scarlett wanted to choose a different path than anger. So Scarlett founded the Jesse Lewis Choose Love Movement with the goal of teaching children social-emotional learning strategies to try and address violence at its roots.

    Guests:

    Scarlett Lewis, Founder, Jesse Lewis Choose Love Movement

    Resources:

    Choose Love Movement Socials

    https://chooselovemovement.org/

    https://x.com/ChooseLoveM

    https://www.facebook.com/JLChooseLove

    https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-jesse-lewis-choose-love-foundation/

    https://www.instagram.com/chooselovemovement/

    https://www.youtube.com/user/chooselovefoundation

    Contact Scarlett

    https://x.com/scarlettmlewis?lang=en

    A GOP Texas school board member campaigned against schools indoctrinating kids. Then she read the curriculum.

    https://www.texastribune.org/2024/05/15/texas-granbury-isd-school-board-courtney-gore/

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patron

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Donate on PayPal

    https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ

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    https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN

    *Any Comments made by Myself are mine and mine alone and do not reflect the views of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*


    247 | Chesa Boudin: Lessons Learned from San Francisco's Progressive Prosecution Movement Jun 25, 2024
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter is joined by Chesa Boudin, the former District Attorney of San Francisco, to discuss his transition from public defender to prosecutor and the challenges he faced in trying to make systemic change. He shares examples of cases where he felt limited in his ability to create meaningful impact as a public defender, leading him to pursue a career in prosecution. Boudin also discusses the difficulties of implementing progressive policies within a prosecutor's office, including the resistance from the old guard and the limitations imposed by labor rules. They highlight how police departments and unions can undermine democracy at the local level and the challenges faced by progressive prosecutors. The discussion also touches on the difficulty of messaging and getting voters on board with criminal justice reform.

    Guests:

    Chesa Boudin, Executive Director, Criminal Law and Justice Center, Berkley Law

    Resources:

    Chesa's Faculty Page

    https://www.law.berkeley.edu/our-faculty/faculty-profiles/chesa-boudin/

    Follow Chesa on Twitter

    https://x.com/chesaboudin?lang=en

    Eric Salwell on Prosecutors

    https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/this-is-not-normal-swalwell-calls-out-soft-on-violent-crime-prosecutors-in-tweet/

    Reports on Crime in California

    https://www.cjcj.org/reports-publications?page=4

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patron

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Donate on PayPal

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    *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*


    246 | Eric Whitcher: South Dakota's Small First Step to Statewide Public Defense Jun 20, 2024
    Show notes

    Today, Hunter sat down with Eric Whitcher, Director of the Pennington County Public Defender Office. Until recently, South Dakota and Pennsylvania shared the inglorious distinction of being the last two states in the country to provide 0 dollars towards public defense at the state level. Finally after years of advocacy, it appears South Dakota is about to change that. Eric joins the show to discuss the statewide commission that is primed to start a massive overhaul of the Public Defense delivery in the state.

    Guests:

    Eric Whitcher, Director, Pennington County Public Defense, South Dakota

    Resources:

    Pennington County Public Defender Website

    https://www.pennco.org/pdo

    Eric's Linked in

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-whitcher-07b9aa295?original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

    HB 1057

    https://sdlegislature.gov/Session/Bill/24943

    Task Force Report

    https://ujs.sd.gov/uploads/committees/Indigent/ILSTaskForceFinalReportRecommendations.pdf

    Contact Hunter Parnell:

    Publicdefenseless@gmail.com

    Instagram

    @PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Twitter

    @PDefenselessPod

    www.publicdefenseless.com

    Subscribe to the Patron

    www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast

    Donate on PayPal

    https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ

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    *As a reminder, any statements made on the show do not reflect the views or policies of the Colorado Office of the State Public Defender*


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