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    Proof Over Precedent – Access to Justice Lab at Harvard Law School

    The Access to Justice Lab at Harvard Law School discusses the work of bringing credible evidence to lawyers, judges, and decision makers, to transform the U.S. justice system into an evidence-based field. We bring you weekly one-on-one interviews with experts in the area of access to justice — researchers, lawyers, professors, law students, data analysts, research participants, and anyone who has an interesting role in this growing area.

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    Episode 22: Exploring Involuntary Commitment and Legal Reforms Nov 11, 2025
    Show notes

    In this "Student Voices" episode of Proof Over Precedent, HLS student Aarushi Solanki discusses involuntary commitment laws for psychiatric patients in Massachusetts, where the process of holding separate commitment and treatment hearings winds up denying patients access to timely treatment.


    Episode 21: What is the Impact of Legal Counsel at First Hearings? Nov 03, 2025
    Show notes Image by Felicia Quan, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School

    Can the presence of legal counsel at a criminal justice defendant’s first court hearing transform their journey through the justice system? Two Texas counties examined this possibility in a now-completed A2J Lab study. Director Jim Greiner hosts fellow A2J Lab researcher Renee Danser and Texas A&M researchers George Nafault and Bethany Patterson in a discussion about the project results and their potential impact on legal representation and judicial decision making going forward.

    Read the corresponding blog post.

    Speakers:

    • D. James Greiner, Honorable S. William Green Professor of Public Law at Harvard Law School; Faculty Director of the Access to Justice Lab at Harvard Law School
    • Renee L. Danser, Associate Director of Research and Strategic Partnerships, Access to Justice Lab at Harvard Law School
    • George Naufal, Associate Research Scientist, Public Policy Research Institute, Texas A&M University
    • Bethany Patterson, Research Associate, Public Policy Research Institute, Texas A&M University

    Resources mentioned:

    • Recognizance Release Order
    • Indigency Determination
    • Texas Indigent Defense Commission
    • Arnold Ventures

    Share feedback and relevant topics you would like the A2J Lab to discuss: a2jlab@law.harvard.edu

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    Episode 20: Caught in the Web — Government Websites and Accessibility Oct 27, 2025
    Show notes Cartoon depicting website navigation as searching for a needle in a haystackImage by Courtney Chrystal, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School

    Access to justice via government websites should mean ease of digital access to information. But what if your simple search on filing for a restraining order returned lists of forms in legalese or 37 pages of links to weed through for the appropriate form? In this Student Voices episode of Proof Over Precedent, J.D. candidate Spencer Thieme argues for simple and inexpensive upgrades to state and federal government websites to improve accessibility for the nonlawyers and non-government workers.

    Read the corresponding blog post.

    Speakers:

    • Spencer Thieme, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School
    • Rachel Barkin, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School

    Resources mentioned:

    • E-Government Act of 2002
    • United Kingdom government website
    • Official California website
    • Hick’s Law
    • Fitts’s Law

    Share feedback and relevant topics you would like the A2J Lab to discuss: a2jlab@law.harvard.edu

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    Episode 19: How to Grow from a Global Study Setback Oct 20, 2025
    Show notes Image by Felicia Quan, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School

    Early this year, the A2J Lab was expanding globally for the first time, bringing its mission to study access to justice to both Kenya and Tunisia — and just about half-way through its study — when a federal stop-work order abruptly shut down the project. In this episode of Proof Over Precedent, we have no study results to report about the project that intended to look at whether prompt access to quality representation affects legal and social outcomes for defendants in misdemeanors and petty offenses in the two African nations. Instead, the A2J Lab’s Renee Danser shares her experience working on the lab’s first global project, the intentions of the study and the progress it made through January this year, and the lessons learned from both an international project and the discontinuation of the study. Primary takeaway: remain hopeful and persistent as we continue to look for funding to restart the project.

    Read the corresponding blog post.

    Speakers:

    • Renee Danser, Associate Director of Research and Strategic Partnerships, Access to Justice Lab at Harvard Law School
    • Michelle Blouin, Communications Associate, Access to Justice Lab at Harvard Law School

    Resources mentioned:

    • International Legal Foundation (ILF)
    • Justice Initiatives Global


    Share feedback and relevant topics you would like the A2J Lab to discuss: a2jlab@law.harvard.edu

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    Episode 18: No Money Down Bankruptcy, Part II — Navigating Possible Solutions Oct 13, 2025
    Show notes Image by Felicia Quan, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School

    More bankruptcy cases were filed in 2024 than all other civil cases in federal court combined – a factor that should make access to the bankruptcy filing process a priority in the U.S., HLS student Joe Liberman argues in this Student Voices podcast. Part II of this series discusses potential reforms, including changing attorney fee structures, simplifying the bankruptcy process, and making information about legal representation more accessible.

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    Listen to Part 1 of the podcast or read Part 1 of the blog post.

    Speakers:

    • Joe Liberman, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School
    • Aarushi Solanki, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School

    Resources mentioned:

    • Chapter 7 – Bankruptcy Basics
    • Chapter 13 – Bankruptcy Basics
    • Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005


    Share feedback and relevant topics you would like the A2J Lab to discuss: a2jlab@law.harvard.edu

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    Episode 17: The Inaccessibility of a Financial Fresh Start Oct 06, 2025
    Show notes Cartoon depicting howImage by Courtney Chrystal, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School

    Is the financial reset system too difficult to navigate? In this “Student Voices” episode of Proof Over Precedent, HLS J.D. candidate Joe Liberman discusses the complexities and accessibility issues associated with “no-money-down” bankruptcy filings that often hurt the people who can least afford these particular filings.Closer scrutiny to legal fees associated with bankruptcy filings may help steer incentives toward the debtor rather than the attorney working with the filer.

    Read the corresponding blog post.

    Speakers:

    • Joe Liberman, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School
    • Andrew Reed, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School

    Resources mentioned:

    • Chapter 7 – Bankruptcy Basics
    • Chapter 13 – Bankruptcy Basics
    • Lamie v. United States Trustee
    • ‘Consumer Bankruptcy and Financial Health’, National Bureau of Economic Research
    • ‘How the Bankruptcy System is Failing Black Americans’, ProPublica
    • ‘No Money Down’ Bankruptcy, Southern California Law Review


    Share feedback and relevant topics you would like the A2J Lab to discuss: a2jlab@law.harvard.edu

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    Episode 16: Can Community Diversion Program Help Repeat Offenders Rehabilitate? Sep 29, 2025
    Show notes Image by Felicia Quan, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School


    A recently launched A2J Lab study examines the effectiveness of an education and community resource-focused program at reducing recidivism among low-level offenders. The program has been in practice for seven years in Toledo, Ohio, but has not yet been studied thoroughly. In this episode of Proof Over Precedent, the A2J Lab’s Renee Danser discusses the program and the potential it has, if found to be effective, to serve as an affordable blueprint for other municipal court systems.

    Read the corresponding blog post.

    Speakers:

    • Renee Danser, Associate Director of Research and Strategic Partnerships, Access to Justice Lab at Harvard Law School
    • Michelle Blouin, Communications Associate, Access to Justice Lab at Harvard Law School

    Resources mentioned:

    • Toledo Municipal Court press release
    • “Study of Community Diversion Program Launches,” A2J Lab Blog


    Share feedback and relevant topics you would like the A2J Lab to discuss: a2jlab@law.harvard.edu

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    Episode 15: Pro Se Problems -- Defining and Deploying Legal Knowledge Sep 22, 2025
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    In this “Student Voices” episode of Proof Over Precedent, HLS J.D. candidate Rachel Barkin discusses the challenges faced by pro se litigants in complying with civil procedure rules. While interpretation of legal language may be an obstacle, she argues that "deployability" is the more significant hurdle for self-represented litigants.


    Episode 14: Ethical Conundrums in Legal Research Sep 15, 2025
    Show notes Cartoon depicting an official deciding who is a participant in theImage by Courtney Chrystal, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School

    In this Proof Over Precedent episode, the third show in the ‘Demystifying IRBs’ series, host Jim Greiner meets with IRB expert Shannon Sewards to answer the tricky question: Who counts as a ‘human subject’? Medical fields can easily point to human subjects in their research; but in social sciences, the definition relies heavily on federal regulations from Institutional Review Boards that require consent from human subjects to participate in research. So, legal researchers need to know about IRBs and how they define ‘human subjects’ and IRBs need to know about legal research and the role of participants in the studies. While the previous episode in the ‘Demystifying IRBs’ series addressed human subject research versus medical research, this third episode discusses:

    • Legal regulations that define human subjects in social science research
    • Ethical considerations in applying research to human subjects
    • Hypothetical scenarios to illustrate IRB challenges in interpreting and applying federal regulations
    • Risk assessments for human subjects

    Read the corresponding blog post.

    Speakers:

    • Shannon Sewards, Director of the Human Research Protection Program, Dartmouth Health; former Director, Harvard University Area IRB
    • Jim Greiner, Honorable S. William Green Professor of Public Law at Harvard Law School; Faculty Director of the Access to Justice Lab at Harvard Law School

    Resources mentioned:

    • Institutional Review Board FAQs
    • 45 Code of Federal Regulations Part 46, Subpart A [“Common Rule”]
    • Office of Human Research Protection


    Share feedback and relevant topics you would like the A2J Lab to discuss: a2jlab@law.harvard.edu

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    Episode 13: Criminal Gideon, Civil Gideon, And Gender Sep 08, 2025
    Show notes Cartoon depicting a lawyer shown as a wolf evicting the Statue of Liberty and replacing her with Uncle SamImage by Courtney Chrystal, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School

    This “Student Voices” episode of Proof Over Precedent discusses the critical need for providing legal representation in civil cases—particularly those in which an individual’s home, family, or safety is at risk. While the right to counsel already extends to criminal cases in both federal and state courts, it does not currently extend to civil cases, where the socioeconomic outcomes often affect women more so than men. HLS LLM Laura Aquino asks why civil cases are not treated with the same level of importance as criminal cases and argues that expanding legal access is a matter of both fairness and justice.

    Read the corresponding blog post.

    Speakers:

    • Laura Alicia Aquino Arriaga, LLM, Harvard Law School
    • Michael Pusic, J.D. candidate, Harvard Law School

    Resources mentioned:

    • The Gender of Gideon, UCLA Law Review
    • Gideon v. Wainwright
    • Shattered Bonds: The Color of Child Welfare, by Dorothy Roberts (2001)

    Share feedback and relevant topics you would like the A2J Lab to discuss: a2jlab@law.harvard.edu

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