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Home of the best crypto conversations
Hosted by Connor Lovely and EV3 Ventures | Built by Proof of Coverage
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Connor sits down with Anna Kazlauskas, co-founder of Vana, to explore the intersection of AI and user-owned data. They discuss the resurgence of the crypto scene in San Francisco, fueled by advancements in AI, and the impact of DeepSeek on model training efficiency and data privacy. Anna shares her journey from MIT to co-founding Vana, a layer one blockchain enabling programmable data rights for AI. She introduces the concept of data DAOs—user-owned data collectives that negotiate better terms with platforms—highlighting the shift toward self-sovereign digital identities. The conversation also covers Vana’s tokenomics and its mission to address AI’s data shortage by empowering users with control and incentives.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:45 - Impact of DeepSeek on AI and User Privacy
04:22 - User Awareness and Data Storage Concerns
06:28 - The Shift in AI Narrative
07:14 - Anna's Journey into User-Owned Data
10:45 - Vana's Technical Framework and Privacy
12:20 - The Need for Data Sovereignty in AI
13:27 - Building a Layer 1 Blockchain
15:51 - Data DAOs: A New Approach to Data Ownership
17:15 - Understanding Data DAOs and Their Function
22:47 - The Role of Data Ownership in Social Platforms
24:51 - Negotiating Better Terms for Data Ownership
26:40 - Bringing Data to Vana and AI Applications
28:09 - Privacy-Preserving Compute Solutions
29:22 - Tokenomics of Vana
30:55 - Data DAO Specific Tokens and Their Role
31:22 - Final Thoughts on Vana's Vision
32:30 - Where to Find More Information
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Connor chats with Rob Solomon, co-founder of DIMO, about the project’s steady evolution through the crypto market’s ups and downs. Rob explains how DIMO enables cars to access and share their data securely—unlocking use cases like EV owners monetizing charging data via carbon offsets. They discuss how blockchain powers trustless data sharing, the user experience of representing cars as NFTs, and the growing developer ecosystem with nearly 200 licenses issued. Rob also previews upcoming enterprise partnerships and invites users and builders to explore the DIMO platform.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:00 - Market Cycles
02:26 - Vision and Progress Over Two Years
03:40 - Use Cases and App Ecosystem
06:42 - Real-World Value Beyond Crypto
07:25 - Web2 Integrations and User Benefits
10:02 - On-Chain Data and User Permissions
11:01 - Explaining DIMO to Crypto Users
14:09 - Developer Engagement and Access to Data
15:58 - User Opt-In and Data Monetization
18:31 - Revenue Generation and DIMO Token Dynamics20:05 - Enterprise Customer Insights
22:16 - Go-to-Market Strategies and Supply Growth
23:42 - Call to Action for Users and Developers
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Connor speaks with Anirudh Pai, partner at Dragonfly Capital, about what it takes to build a successful crypto project and attract top investors. Anirudh highlights the importance of long-term demand strategies, demonstrating real customer engagement, and standing out in a competitive market. They explore the evolution of decentralized technologies, particularly in the energy sector, and the concept of commodity currencies like electrodollars, emphasizing the role of clean energy in technological progress. Anirudh also shares his insights on balancing learning, founder meetings, and supporting portfolio companies, along with his involvement in the Praxis project, which focuses on creating innovative living environments rooted in community and shared values. This conversation offers a wealth of insights into the crypto space, decentralized technologies, and the future of innovation.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:09 - Getting on the Radar of Investors
02:59 - Preferred Communication Channels for Founders
04:08 - Balancing Workload and Learning
06:21 - Embracing Serendipity in Investing
08:13 - Avoiding Pattern Matching in Investment Decisions09:34 - The Evolution of DePIN
15:13 - Commodity Currencies and Their Future
18:09 - The Role of Energy in Economic Growth
19:53 - Challenges in Decentralized Energy Markets
22:33 - Roadblocks to DePIN Advancement
26:04 - Innovations in the Medallion System
27:05 - The Future of Energy and Wireless DePIN’s
29:44 - Updates on Praxis and Community Living
32:37 - Closing Thoughts
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Connor is joined by Sal Gala (EV3), Florian Fournier (Threefold), and Jose Aycart (Share) to announce the DePIN Summit 2025 in Africa and discuss its significance. They explore the region’s potential for technological disruption, the importance of local engagement and government collaboration, and the role of decentralized internet networks in driving innovation. With Africa already leading in digital payments and primed for new advancements, the Summit aims to connect global and local tech communities at a crucial moment for growth. The conversation highlights DePIN as a framework for new business models and the transformative opportunities ahead.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
03:01 - DePIN: A Global Perspective
05:55 - The Significance of Africa in the DePIN Movement
08:49 - Building Infrastructure: Local Engagement and Government Relations
12:11 - Innovations in Internet Connectivity in Africa
15:09 - The Future of DePIN: Vision for the Summit
18:02 - Excitement for the Upcoming DePIN Summit
20:51 - Conclusion
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Connor and co-host James Lovely, an expert in structured financial products, welcome Brandon Goh, CEO and Co-founder of Treehouse Finance, to explore the intersection of traditional finance (TradFi) and decentralized finance (DeFi). Goh shares his journey from Morgan Stanley to crypto, discussing how innovations like Uniswap reshaped his perspective. The conversation covers risk and return in borrowing rates, Ethereum’s proof-of-stake system as a crypto equivalent to the risk-free rate, and the differences between Ethereum and Bitcoin. Goh introduces Treehouse’s T-Asset product, which enhances liquid staking yields through arbitrage strategies, and highlights the importance of decentralized benchmark rates like the Decentralized Offered Rate (D.O.R). They also examine risks such as rehypothecation and the need for reliable data in DeFi, concluding with a discussion on institutional adoption and the infrastructure required for its growth.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
03:09 - Brandon's Transition from TradFi to Crypto
05:12 - Core Concepts of Borrowing Rates in TradFi
07:59 - On-Chain Rates and Their Implications
09:05 - Comparing Bitcoin and Ethereum as Risk-Free Rates
12:22 - Staking Yield as a Risk-Free Rate Analogy
14:08 - Liquid Staking Explained
21:34 - Treehouse's T-Asset Product Overview
23:46 - Decentralized Finance and Risk Considerations
29:30 - Institutional Involvement in DeFi
31:12 - Expanding to Other Chains and Market Strategy
32:34 - Introduction to Decentralized Offered Rates (DOR)
41:34 - Building a Decentralized Benchmark Rate
48:09 - Incentives and Accuracy in the DOR Framework
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Connor and Mahesh welcomed Vinny Lingham, a prominent figure in crypto and tech. Vinny discussed his latest ventures, including Animal, a film exploring the benefits of the carnivore diet, and shared his personal health transformation. He reflected on the challenges of the 2018-2019 crypto winter, the evolving regulatory landscape, and his work with Civic, a decentralized identity protocol aimed at enhancing trust in digital transactions. The conversation also covered AI and decentralized computing, with Vinny highlighting projects like Render and Vast.ai as potential disruptors to traditional data centers. Throughout the discussion, he encouraged listeners to challenge conventional narratives in both health and technology, wrapping up with an invitation to connect with him on Twitter for further insights.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:27 - Upcoming Movie: Animal
02:56 - Misconceptions About Diets
06:42 - Challenging Established Narratives
08:06 - Civic and Decentralized Identity
10:42 - Regulatory Challenges in Crypto
13:11 - Transparency in Elections
14:15 - Bear Market Experience
17:15 - Investing in Solana and Filecoin
20:27 - AI Video Conferencing Platform: Rumi
21:11 - DePIN Strategy and AI Development
25:06 - Future of Decentralized GPUs
26:44 - Closing Thoughts
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Connor sits down with Tory Green to discuss how Io.net is revolutionizing AI infrastructure with affordable, decentralized compute power. They explore the challenges of centralized cloud providers, how DeepSeek underscores the need for decentralized AI solutions, and why Solana’s speed and community support make it the ideal foundation for Io.net. Tory also breaks down the network’s transparency, staking mechanisms, and competitive edge against AWS, GCP, and Azure, along with Io.net’s plans for product launches, partnerships, and mainstream adoption.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
02:50 The Impact of DeepSeek on AI
06:04 The Journey to Decentralized AI
08:46 Understanding Io.net's Core Problem
12:00 Io.net's Solution and Market Position
15:09 Overcoming Latency Challenges
18:04 Choosing Solana for Io.net's Infrastructure
21:03 Token Utility and Community Engagement
23:55 Future Aspirations for Io.net
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Connor and Mahesh welcome Santiago Santos, a prominent figure in the crypto space and co-host of the popular Empire podcast. Santiago shares his vision for the future of private equity and crypto, highlighting the transformative potential of open-source systems and the rapid movement of capital in the crypto world. He discusses his approach to leveraging crypto to drive value in private equity portfolios and emphasizes the importance of integrating stablecoins with decentralized infrastructure networks (DePIN) to accelerate technology adoption. Additionally, he explores the readiness of the tech industry to support large-scale crypto initiatives and stresses the need for the industry to aim higher.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:25 - Santiago's Podcast Experience
01:45 - The Need for Crypto Education
04:01 - Architecting Society with Crypto
06:57 - The Beauty of Open Source Systems
07:44 - The Challenges and Opportunities in Crypto
09:56 - Investing with a Broader Perspective
12:51 - Personal Motivation and Meaning in Work
13:36 - The Role of Technology in Daily Life
15:17 - Convincing Others About Crypto's Value
18:30 - The Shift from Investor to Founder
20:34 - Headwinds Facing Traditional Private Equity
24:09 - The Future of Private Equity and Crypto
25:34 - Onboarding Users into the Crypto Space
27:55 - The Vision for Inversion Capital
29:11 - The Role of Helium in the Crypto Ecosystem
36:09 - The Importance of Consumer Experience
37:32 - Assumptions for Inversion's Success
39:57 - The Role of Technology in Crypto's Future
41:03 - Helium Improvement Proposal and Inversion
44:05 - Conclusion and Future Outlook
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Connor welcomes Miguel from Nillion to discuss the company's latest endeavors. Miguel shares insights into Nillion's motivation for launching an internal podcast designed to provide builders and developers with a platform to showcase their projects. The conversation explores the benefits of open-sourcing AI models, highlighting how Nillion leveraged DeepSeek's R1 model to develop a privacy-preserving "blind guru" chatbot. Additionally, the episode examines the broader implications of DeepSeek's open-source approach and the ongoing challenges surrounding privacy and security in AI development.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
00:40 - Privacy-Preserving AI: The Impact of DeepSeek's Model
04:13 - Trust and Privacy in AI Agents
10:17 - How Web3 Can Benefit from Seamless Privacy Integration
18:31 - The Connection Between Web2, Web3, and Privacy with ZkTLS
22:17 - A Look at Privacy Solutions
26:00 - Unique Use Cases for Nillion Technology
30:54 - Ways to Get Involved with the Community
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Connor speaks with Kevin McCordic, Head of Growth at Meet Monad, about the latest developments in the Monad ecosystem as they prepare for their Testnet launch. They discuss the volatile crypto market, likening it to a high-stakes game similar to Squid Game, where investor sentiment shifts unpredictably. Kevin shares his journey from venture investing to Monad, highlighting his evolving role in marketing, community building, and product strategy. The conversation explores Monad’s mission to make blockchain development more accessible through EVM integration, fostering innovation and expanding its developer base. Kevin also emphasizes the importance of community engagement in driving growth and previews exciting projects within the ecosystem. The episode concludes with a call for listeners to follow Monad on Twitter and stay tuned for the Testnet launch, marking a pivotal moment for the platform’s future.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
00:39 - Market Sentiment and Development Challenges in Crypto
03:23 - Exploring Monad
04:44 - Evolution of Roles at Monad: From Branding to Testnet Launch
07:10 - Building the Ecosystem and Preparing for Testnet Launch
10:33 - From Security to Opportunity in the Crypto Space
11:56 - From Angel Investing to Joining the Team at Monad
20:01 - The Impact of Fast Blockchains on Crypto Development
25:22 - Leveraging Twitter and Memes for Growth in Crypto
36:13 - Monad's Growth Strategies and Community Engagement
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