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    Play It Like It’s Music

    Purists may whine that the best days of music are behind us, that capital “M” music has seen its peak and is no longer relevant. But here at Play It Like It’s Music we believe the opposite: not only is the act of musicmaking an essential life skill with a lineage stretching back to the beginnings of human history, but the vocation of the professional musician is more vital today than it ever has been. Once a month, join musician, songwriter and producer Trevor Exter as he drops in on working musicians from every genre.

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    "Try not to have any shame about what you do" Dec 16, 2020
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    068: Yousef Bassirpour

    Good morning! This is Play It Like It’s Music. I’m Trevor, thanks for listening.

    On Wednesday, December 16th of 2020 Music is not content. It’s connection.

    Yousef Bassirpour is working under the name Big Blind, and the music is heavy, spacious and beautiful. He’s a fixture on the Atwater scene here in LA.

    Big Blind is an Industrial / Post-Rock project that draws influence from traditional Middle Eastern music. The lyrics are mostly English and occasionally Farsi.

    I listen to this guy and I’m hearing a clear voice, sonorous arrangements, deep feeling and melodies that bring me to a variety of different places.

    Quick ask: if you believe this show deserves a wider audience, please tell a friend:

    Without further ado, here’s Yousef.

    It’s an honor to have him on the show.

    Press PLAY above to hear my conversation with Yousef of Big Blind.

    Or subscribe in your podcast app: Apple Podcasts - Spotify- Stitcher - TuneIn - Overcast - Pocketcast

    Thanks for listening to Play It Like It’s Music. Thanks so much to Yousef Bassirpour for spending some very generous time with us. You can find the Bid Blind album on Spotify and follow him on IG @big_blind_.

    I can’t believe we’ve gotten to 68 shows! If you believe this show deserves a wider audience, please tell a friend:

    Follow me on twitter @trevorexter and talk to me on there if you have thoughts about the show.

    We're all contending with a mutating professional landscape, jacked revenue streams, a catastrophic global pandemic and plenty of other noise out here.

    But you gotta keep playing:

    We don't draw any lines here between scenes or styles.

    As always, thank you for listening and remember to play it like its music.

    You can check out my music on bandcamp and other places. It’s all at my website, trevorexter.com. Sign the mailing list on substack to get this show sent right to you the very moment it comes out.

    Music is a beautiful thing and it makes the world go round.

    Big love to your ears.

    Trevor

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    "To sing is to pray" Dec 09, 2020
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    067: George Crotty

    Good morning! This is Play It Like It’s Music. I’m Trevor, thanks for listening.

    On Wednesday, December 9th of 2020 Music is not content, it’s connection.

    I’m glad to be talking with you today, over this amazing little pop-up radio thingy we call podcasting. There are a million shows, so thanks for tuning into this one. It’s about music. Could you tell?

    Folks have no idea what music is, least of all the people who make it and listen to it. We care about it, but no two people will define Music in the same way. It’s just this thing that we either can’t turn away from for love or money, or the thing we have to get away from at any cost. Depends on the moment of course, and the band.

    I’m pleased to announce that I got a big chunk of work done on my studio, so stay tuned for some videos and some streaming coming up very soon. Keep an eye out there.

    On the topic of personal media development, someone who’s given me quite a bit of guidance over the years is a previous guest on the show, Todd Reynolds (@digifiddler). He’s a dear friend who happens to be one of the biggest gearheads on earth (at least as far as string players go). He’s been helping a lot of people get their stuff in gear for recording, improvising with electronics, video streaming. I’m gonna plug his online workshop this weekend, it’s totally free and just the ticket if you’re curious about getting your rig tight.

    If that’s you, click the link!

    Register for Level Up Your Virtual Presence with Todd Reynolds, a free 2-day online workshop, Dec 12 & 13.

    [Photo by Shjaane Glover]

    Canadian cellist George Crotty follows the path of many diverse cello forebears, filtering an inquisitive eclecticism through a vibrant sonic imagination. His approach introduces nimble fiddle-derived chording and ornamentation, agile one-finger gestures from Indian classical music, electric guitar-esque manoeuvres, and good old standup jazz bass. He sounds pretty damn decent if you ask me.

    He leads a trio as a vehicle for his unique vocabulary on the cello and his compositional sensibility. Their music has a dynamism and conversational interplay that makes you listen.

    [Photo by Shjaane Glover]

    George and I go back a bit, I’ve checked out his bands live and had some good hangs at certain music festivals. He’s got a lot to say about the world he’s navigating as a young graduate of the Berklee School of Music, working on the road and then off of it too, because covid…

    He’s got a new single being released this week on his Bandcamp page, check out Prayer Dance as our segue music. It’s a Brooklyn Raga Massive commission.

    Quick ask: if you believe this show deserves a wider audience, please tell a friend:

    Without further ado, here’s George Crotty.

    It’s an honor to have him on the show.

    Press PLAY above to hear my conversation with George Crotty.

    Or subscribe in your podcast app: Apple Podcasts - Spotify- Stitcher - TuneIn - Overcast - Pocketcast

    Thanks for listening to Play It Like It’s Music. Thanks so much to George Crotty for spending some very generous time with us. You can find him at George Crotty dot com. Go buy his music at Bandcamp and follow him on IG @georgeqrious.

    (Mentioned in this episode: “Don't play the butter notes!”)

    I can’t believe we’ve gotten to 67 shows! If you believe this show deserves a wider audience, please tell a friend:

    Follow me on twitter @trevorexter and talk to me on there if you have thoughts about the show.

    We're all contending with a mutating professional landscape, jacked revenue streams, a catastrophic global pandemic and plenty of other noise out here.

    But you gotta keep playing:

    We don't draw any lines here between scenes or styles.

    As always, thank you for listening and remember to play it like its music.

    You can check out my music on bandcamp and other places. It’s all at my website, trevorexter.com. Sign the mailing list on substack to get this show sent right to you the very moment it comes out.

    Music is a beautiful thing and it makes the world go round.

    Big love to your ears.

    Trevor

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    "It's irresistible to me, I wouldn't want it any other way" Dec 02, 2020
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    066: Nathan Gillis

    Good morning! This is Play It Like It’s Music. I’m Trevor, thanks for listening.

    On Wednesday, December 2 of 2020 Music is not content! It’s connection.

    I skipped a week last week. Did you notice? We were too busy cooking food over here (that we’re still eating since it was a tiny gathering).

    I’m gonna make this quick today. I’ve got some work going down over here, and I’m also getting ready for an interesting gig I’ve got online tomorrow so there’s not much to say except I’ve got some walls to paint and am looking forward to getting that done.

    We will soon be streaming some video, and I hope to eventually get it to look halfway decent. I’m pretty happy with the sound lately.

    I was recently on a songwriter zoom call where Angela Parrish (from Ep. 37) convened some of her favorite writers. This guy Nathan Gillis blew us all away, just dropped timeless gem after timeless gem - he reminds a lot of people of Prine and for good reason.

    I just couldn’t get him out of my head - the level of craft that this guy brings in Colorado Springs is a marvel. I had to reach out for an interview.

    He was kind enough to share some rough demos of a couple songs, there’s no album polish but the muse is there in full effect. I’m just gonna duck out here and let him tell us a little something about what music means to him. This man is a true inspiration.

    Quick ask: if you believe this show deserves a wider audience, please tell a friend:

    Without further ado, here’s Nathan Gillis.

    It’s an honor to have him on the show.

    Press PLAY above to hear my conversation with Nathan Gillis.

    Or subscribe in your podcast app: Apple Podcasts - Spotify- Stitcher - TuneIn - Overcast - Pocketcast

    Thanks for listening to Play It Like It’s Music. Thanks so much to Nathan Gillis for spending some very generous time with us. You can find his band on Facebook, other than that there’s no web presence to speak of. Which fits!

    I can’t believe we’ve gotten to 66 shows! If you believe this show deserves a wider audience, please tell a friend:

    Follow me on twitter @trevorexter and talk to me on there if you have thoughts about the show.

    We're all contending with a mutating professional landscape, jacked revenue streams, a catastrophic global pandemic and plenty of other noise out here.

    But you gotta keep playing:

    We don't draw any lines here between scenes or styles.

    As always, thank you for listening and remember to play it like its music.

    You can check out my music on bandcamp and other places. It’s all at my website, trevorexter.com. Sign the mailing list on substack to get this show sent right to you the very moment it comes out.

    Music is a beautiful thing and it makes the world go round.

    Big love to your ears.

    Trevor

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    "It's all for something" Nov 18, 2020
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    065: AJ Nocito

    Good morning! This is Play It Like It’s Music. I’m Trevor, thanks for listening.

    On Wednesday, November 18th of 2020 music is not content. It’s connection.

    It's just as hard to find musical partners as it is to find romantic partners. Some people can make it look easy, but finding someone to share the real burdens, who really understands the world the way you do and is brave enough to commit to a project - that part is never easy.

    [photo by @shvwnfvckingcooper]

    AJ Nocito is a man on a mission,

    and his energy will infect any room he walks into. I've seen him in quite a few contexts: percussionist at The Get Down, road manager on a tour we were both on and also front man of the hardcore metal band Christopher Walkin On Sunshine. Strap in, this dude is a live wire. A thrilling man to have in your life.

    Today we're going to hear the tale of a band in the making and in the breaking: sleeping on the floor with all the gear and just willing the music into being.

    The story will take some turns because life does: there are a couple of different bands that weave in and out, as well as a heartbreaking tragedy that will stop you in your tracks. AJ has survived a major musician's nightmare, and he's here to tell us about it. There is redemption within.

    Ok, so

    Not a lot of metalheads listen to my show and I get it,

    but sound is sound and spirit is spirit. The various facets of the metal and punk scenes which I've visited are some of the most inspiring and committed anywhere, and I confess to some envy alongside my admiration from the 'conservatory' perch I was brought up in. The energy is unmatched. I'm proud to have the few friends I do in there, and AJ is a brother of mine for life.

    "I'm gonna start hearing things that my hands can't do."

    [photo by @linkreturns]

    [photo by Sasha Bianca]

    Quick ask: if you believe this show deserves a wider audience, please tell a friend:

    It’s an honor to have him on the show.

    Press PLAY above to hear my conversation with AJ Nocito.

    Or subscribe in your podcast app: Apple Podcasts - Spotify- Stitcher - TuneIn - Overcast - Pocketcast

    Thanks for listening to Play It Like It’s Music. Thanks so much to AJ for spending some very generous time with us. You can find him and follow him on IG and chase him around. Also: buy their demo on bandcamp.

    I can’t believe we’ve gotten to 65 shows! If you believe this show deserves a wider audience, please tell a friend:

    Follow me on twitter @trevorexter and talk to me on there if you have thoughts about the show.

    We're all contending with a mutating professional landscape, jacked revenue streams, a catastrophic global pandemic and plenty of other noise out there.

    But you gotta keep playing:

    We don't draw any lines here between scenes or styles.

    As always, thank you for listening and remember to play it like its music.

    You can check out my music on bandcamp and other places. It’s all at my website, trevorexter.com. Sign the mailing list on substack to get this show sent right to you the very moment it comes out.

    Music is a beautiful thing and it makes the world go round.

    Big love to your ears.

    Trevor

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    "It's always a peak life experience" Nov 11, 2020
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    064: Kent Klineman

    Good morning! This is Play It Like It’s Music. I’m Trevor, thanks for listening.

    On Wednesday, November the 11th of 2020 music is not content, it’s connection.

    I don’t know about you but I’m really struggling to hold it together mentally this week. After all the goings on and the buildup and whatnot, nerves are fried and it appears the Big Conversation is just going to keep getting more and more perverse for all parties involved.

    Not like it’s that unusual, things are perpetually unchained if you look in the right places. But let me tell you, I did something yesterday that gave me an unusual amount of energy and inspiration: I brought my stuff over to a guy’s house and we played some music together.

    In the same room.

    Woah let me tell you.

    Bananas, right? I brought out the cello and the bass and plugged it all in. He had an array of drum machines and synths all wired up and we just went from scratch. YO! We didn’t stop for like an hour and a half. It was weird, just showing up to play. Like for fun. But that’s what it was: FUN.

    Who knows when this pandemic is ever gonna ease off - people are still catching it and those numbers aren’t going down like you might wish. But for us musicians it’s a total killer. We totally had our masks on and sat real far apart like sane people will, but it felt pretty rebellious just to be doing it at all. Which is a problem.

    Music is the thing we’re supposed to be able to do to heal ourselves, to get connected, to feel whole and all the rest of it. Folks haven’t really been able to play properly for over six months now and man does that lack take a toll.

    I remember going for little dryspells in between gigs, then playing and having my body just remember and exhale and want to go back and do it all over again. There’s some somatic signal that makes everything ok for a little while, like a feeling of “this is what you’re here to do”. Know what I mean?

    Here’s hoping we can all get back to doing what we’re here to do, sooner rather than later.

    Today on the show we have Kent Klineman of Blind Pony, a great character actor who you might have seen in TV shows like “The Practice” or “Better Things”. He also acted with Brian Dennehy in “Death Of A Salesman”. Guy’s a veteran, and he happens to also be a musician and songwriter.

    I was happy to catch up with him for an engaging chat about his upbringing and approach and attitude to all things music and art. He’s a fantastic dude and it was an honor to have him on the show this week.

    Quick ask: if you believe this show deserves a wider audience, please tell a friend:

    It’s an honor to have him on the show.

    Press PLAY above to hear my conversation with Kent Klineman.

    Or subscribe in your podcast app: Apple Podcasts - Spotify- Stitcher - TuneIn - Overcast - Pocketcast

    Thanks for listening to Play It Like It’s Music. Thanks so much to Kent Klineman for spending some very generous time with us. You can find him on Spotify, Youtube, IMDB and on Wikipedia.

    The book Kent mentioned is called "Start Your Own Band" by Marty Jourard, keyboard player for The Motels.

    I can’t believe we’ve gotten to 64 shows! If you believe this show deserves a wider audience, please tell a friend:

    Follow me on twitter @trevorexter and talk to me on there if you have thoughts about the show.

    We're all contending with a mutating professional landscape, jacked revenue streams, a catastrophic global pandemic and plenty of other noise out there.

    But you gotta keep playing:

    We don't draw any lines here between scenes or styles.

    As always, thank you for listening and remember to play it like its music.

    You can check out my music on bandcamp and other places. It’s all at my website, trevorexter.com. Sign the mailing list on substack to get this show sent right to you the very moment it comes out.

    Music is a beautiful thing and it makes the world go round.

    Big love to your ears.

    Trevor

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    "I love creating something that wasn't there" Nov 04, 2020
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    063: Mike Block

    Good morning! This is Play It Like It’s Music. I’m Trevor, thanks for listening.

    On Wednesday, November 4th of 2020, MORE THAN EVER Music is not content, it’s connection.

    I’m recording this on Tuesday afternoon, so the voice you’re listening to right now is still on the previous side of whatever corner has been turned by the time you’re hearing this.

    So you know something I don’t. Or maybe you don’t. But at least things are moving somewhere.

    Today we have the one and only Mike Block on the show. He’s a good friend, a world renowned cellist and teacher and also a songwriter and bandleader who puts out an astonishing amount of records. His work ethic just won't quit.

    He's also Yo Yo Ma's go-to arranger, a role which has developed in the wake of his long association with the Silk Road ensemble. We get into that.

    He’s got a new album out this month called The Edge Of The Atmosphere and you can find links to it (and all of his music) in the shownotes [below].

    Yes that’s right, we are doing a two week run of great cellists with great new albums. Last week’s interview with Nesrine was a real joy, and this one with Mike is another - if you’re into cellists.

    He’s truly industrious: In 2010 he founded the Mike Block String Camp. Mike is also the founding Director of Silkroad’s Global Musician Workshop (GMW), designed to foster a community of globally minded musicians. He teaches hundreds of cello students online through his Multi-Style Cello School at ArtistWorks.com, he’s an Associate Professor at the Berklee College of Music, and in 2018 also joined the faculty of New England Conservatory through the Contemporary Improvisation program.

    BUT that’s not all. As an innovator, Mike is among the first wave of cellists to adopt a strap in order to stand and move while playing. He patented an original design, The Block Strap, and then became the first standing cellist to perform at Carnegie Hall. The NY Times characterized the performance as, "Breathless ... Half dance, half dare."

    So yeah, he’s a complete badass. But also a humble and generous dude with a great heart. Let’s hang out with Mike.

    Press PLAY above to hear my conversation with Mike Block.

    Or subscribe in your podcast app: Apple Podcasts - Spotify- Stitcher - TuneIn - Overcast - Pocketcast

    Thanks for listening to Play It Like It’s Music. Thanks so much to Mike Block for spending some very generous time with us. You can find his work at Mike Block Music dot com and also on IG @blockcello.

    His new album “The Edge of the Atmosphere” is out now, give it a listen on all the streamers and on bandcamp.

    I can’t believe we’ve gotten to 63 shows! If you believe this show deserves a wider audience, please tell a friend:

    Follow me on twitter @trevorexter and talk to me on there if you have thoughts about the show.

    We're all contending with a mutating professional landscape, jacked revenue streams, a catastrophic global pandemic and plenty of other noise out there.

    But you gotta keep playing:

    We don't draw any lines here between scenes or styles.

    As always, thank you for listening and remember to play it like its music.

    You can check out my music on bandcamp and other places. It’s all at my website, trevorexter.com. Sign the mailing list on substack to get this show sent right to you the very moment it comes out.

    Music is a beautiful thing and it makes the world go round.

    Big love to your ears.

    Trevor

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    "The best way to express myself, and to understand the world" Oct 28, 2020
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    062: Nesrine Belmokh

    Good morning! This is Play It Like It’s Music. I’m Trevor, thanks for listening.

    On Wednesday, October 28th of 2020 music is not content. It’s connection.

    I voted this past weekend. Have you? Are you planning to? Good idea to get it done early when you can. Especially with how charged everything is now. Because who knows what kind of drama is gonna get thrown at us next week.

    Today on the show we’re talking with someone all the way over in Barcelona, Spain. I was captivated by today’s musician the moment I first came across one of her performances on YouTube.

    As you know, I keep an eye out for singing cellists. But that can be a pretty mixed bag and a lot of second-rate stuff gets put out in the name of novelty. But French-Algerian Nesrine Belmokh (whose stage act goes by just her first name) is bringing it on a lot of levels: she kills it with the cello in all the traditional ways, but she adds to that with a great vocal delivery, bandleading and songwriting chops which are nothing to sniff at by themselves.

    It all comes together in a mesmerizing show.

    Nesrine’s musical world is without borders; the combination of cello with her powerful voice and the interaction of her North African roots with her European present are irresistible. There is an economy of expression here, and the poise and culture of clas- sical music are juxtaposed with rhythms coming from both pop and jazz – it is a fascinating and constantly shifting blend.

    Her brand new self-titled album comes out this Friday, so follow the links here in the show notes and grab a full listen. In the meantime, here’s a bit of music and conversation with the amazing Nesrine.

    Quick ask: if you believe this show deserves a wider audience, please tell a friend:

    It’s an honor to have her on the show.

    Press PLAY above to hear my conversation with Nesrine.

    Or subscribe in your podcast app: Apple Podcasts - Spotify- Stitcher - TuneIn - Overcast - Pocketcast

    Thanks for listening to Play It Like It’s Music. Thanks so much to Nesrine for spending some very generous time with us. You can find her work at Nesrine Music dot com and also on IG @nesrinemusic.

    Her new album comes out on Friday, but in the meantime here’s a link to the single.

    I can’t believe we’ve gotten to 62 shows! If you believe this show deserves a wider audience, please tell a friend:

    Follow me on twitter @trevorexter and talk to me on there if you have thoughts about the show.

    We're all contending with a mutating professional landscape, jacked revenue streams, a catastrophic global pandemic and plenty of other noise out here.

    But you gotta keep playing:

    We don't draw any lines here between scenes or styles.

    As always, thank you for listening and remember to play it like its music.

    You can check out my music on bandcamp and other places. It’s all at my website, trevorexter.com. Sign the mailing list on substack to get this show sent right to you the very moment it comes out.

    Music is a beautiful thing and it makes the world go round.

    Big love to your ears.

    Trevor

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    * Vibe out, here are 200 songs I like: (updated regularly onSpotify)

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    "I love to blame it on inspiration" Oct 21, 2020
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    061: Ed Marshall

    Good Morning! This is Play It Like It’s Music. I’m Trevor, thanks for listening.

    On Wednesday, October 21st of 2020 Music is not content. It’s connection.

    Today’s conversation is a wild ride, I’d say it’s fitting for the times we’re in too.

    Is there life after a dedicated music career? What happens if you decide to quit? I’m not talking about retreating to being a hobbyist - what happens when you actually choose to stop doing it?

    It’s not that much fun to think about, and you and I all know there are as many answers to that as there are people. But life has its twists and turns, and we don’t get to hold on to everything.

    In today’s case, however, there’s an interesting twist.

    [Last Days of CBGB's - photo by Ed Marshall]

    I’ve always been fascinated by house music. How’s about you?

    Photographer Ed Marshall made some house tracks in the 90’s, then life happened and he took off and forgot about it… and as they like to say, you won’t believe what happened next!

    One day in 2017 a couple of DJs tracked him down, and it turns out that copies of his old vinyl pressings were a much sought-after item in Ibiza and around the house scene.

    Like worldwide, man.

    Folks were throwing down $500 for a copy on eBay. I s**t you not. And Ed didn’t believe it either.

    [The Noisettes, The Fillmore, NYC - photo by Ed Marshall]

    Soon enough, Ari Goldman of World Building Records reached out to him about the re-release, and it came back out properly in 2018. We get to hear the origin story of that work, but because Ed and I are friends we get deep into some other crazy important stuff about family, community, spirituality and commitment.

    Nowadays Ed is a pretty well-known and celebrated photographer. But as you’ll hear, it all comes from, and eventually arrives back at music.

    Like life.

    [DirtBombs, Fort Greene, Brooklyn - photo by Ed Marshall]

    Folks who know Ed understand that he’s bringing a lot of layers of awareness and wisdom to every interaction. Just checking out his photography will reveal that he has an incredibly perceptive eye. He doesn’t always hold forth about what’s in his mind though, so this is a real privilege to get him on the show here today. Talking with him is always an eye-opener and this conversation was a great example of that.

    Quick ask: if you believe this show deserves a wider audience, please tell a friend:

    It’s an honor to have the man on the show.

    Press PLAY above to hear my conversation with Ed Marshall.

    Or subscribe in your podcast app: Apple Podcasts - Spotify- Stitcher - TuneIn - Overcast - Pocketcast

    Thanks for listening to Play It Like It’s Music. Thanks so much to Ed Marshall for spending some very generous time with us. You can find his work at Ed Marshall Photography NYC dot com and also on IG @edmarshallphotographynyc. Additionally he has a beautiful book of photographs you can get on Amazon.

    [Game Rebellion (NY), Last Days of CBGB's - photo by Ed Marshall]

    Downloads of the now-classic “Dreamscape: Welcome to our New Age House” are available for purchase at bandcamp and you can get the fresh vinyl at EarCave dot com, for a reasonable price.

    I can’t believe we’ve gotten to 61 shows! If you believe this show deserves a wider audience, please tell a friend:

    Follow me on twitter @trevorexter and talk to me on there if you have thoughts about the show.

    We're all contending with a mutating professional landscape, jacked revenue streams, a catastrophic global pandemic and plenty of other noise out here.

    But you gotta keep playing:

    We don't draw any lines here between scenes or styles.

    As always, thank you for listening and remember to play it like its music.

    You can check out my music on bandcamp and other places. It’s all at my website, trevorexter.com. Sign the mailing list on substack to get this show sent right to you the very moment it comes out.

    Music is a beautiful thing and it makes the world go round.

    Big love to your ears.

    Trevor

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    "Experience is important, listening is important" Oct 14, 2020
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    060: Jenna Moynihan

    Good morning! This is Play It Like It’s Music. I’m Trevor, thanks for listening.

    On Wednesday, October 14th of 2020 music is not content. It’s connection.

    Day in, day out we have to reckon with our surroundings and with the moment we’re in.

    Losing Eddie Van Halen, listening in on a friend’s pre-pre-release party for her debut EP, wondering when (not if) my neighborhood is gonna burn down and all the while just loving all the new music I’m hearing all around me… everything is a reminder that the passing moments of our life are precious and definitely worth spending on something that lights you up.

    Today we have a musician on the show who will do just that:

    Quick ask: if you believe this show deserves a wider audience, please tell a friend:

    Too often artists view tradition as a towering monolith to be either conquered or cowed by, but young Scottish fiddler and experimentalist Jenna Moynihan knows that tradition is meant to be a starting point for great inspiration, not a wall.

    She just released a new EP called Five Songs, which you can get right now on bandcamp and all the streaming platforms.

    She’s got a melodic touch that just slays me. And I’m a tough sell for the violin (as I mentioned to her). It was a real treat to speak with Jenna. She's remarkably subtle at drawing out the melody of a tune, and at recognizing how each tune fits best into the groove of her fiddle.

    Jenna’s well on her way to becoming one of the best traditional fiddlers of her generation, teaching now at multiple fiddle camps across the US and touring internationally. She performs in a duo with Scottish harpist, Mairi Chaimbeul and has performed with The Milk Carton Kids, Laura Cortese & The Dance Cards Darol Anger & The Furies and as a soloist at Symphony Hall with the Boston Pops.

    It’s an honor to have her on the show.

    Press PLAY above to ear my conversation with Jenna Moynihan.

    Or subscribe in your podcast app: Apple Podcasts - Spotify- Stitcher - TuneIn - Overcast - Pocketcast

    Thanks for listening to Play It Like It’s Music. Thanks so much to Jenna Moynihan for spending some very generous time with us. You can find her music at Jenna Moynihan dot com. Her new EP is available for purchase now and you can also follow her on IG @jennamoynihan.

    I can’t believe we’ve gotten to 60 shows! If you believe this show deserves a wider audience, please tell a friend:

    Follow me on twitter @trevorexter and talk to me on there if you have thoughts about the show.

    We're all contending with a mutating professional landscape, jacked revenue streams, a catastrophic global pandemic and plenty of other noise out here.

    But as Eddie always said, you gotta keep playing:

    We don't draw any lines here between scenes or styles.

    As always, thank you for listening and remember to play it like its music.

    You can check out my music on bandcamp and other places. It’s all at my website, trevorexter.com. Sign the mailing list on substack to get this show sent right to you the very moment it comes out.

    Music is a beautiful thing and it makes the world go round.

    Big love to your ears.

    Trevor

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    "It's in me naturally. When I talk, I'm talking Music" Oct 07, 2020
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    059: Shareef Clayton

    Good morning! This is Play It Like It’s Music. I’m Trevor, thanks for listening.

    On Wednesday, October 7th of 2020 Music is not content. It’s connection.

    Last weekend I got to spend a day at the beach chopping it up with a good friend.

    We’ve been friends since our 20’s, which is cool. Because on some level we get to be the same people we were back then. But we also get to share some of the ways we’ve both grown since our 20’s and consequently feel so much smarter than we used to. It was a trip, and it was also a beautiful day.

    We laughed about how we’ve both been reading some very heavy stuff lately, stuff we’d probably not have even thought to check out before. I told my friend how I’ve been reading a bunch of economic theory, and my friend told be how they’ve been reading some 13th and 14th Century history.

    It seems to be a common coping device for a lot of us: when you’re feeling powerless in the face of what’s going on in the world around you, knowledge is a form of power that remains more accessible than ever. So in between bouts of “taking action” we can seize a thick book and try to widen our lens.

    Away from constantly feeling the acuteness of our current array of crises.

    Cop a bit of perspective.

    So yeah, I’ve been reading up on some economic theory. Not because I hope to deeply understand it, but because I’m fascinated by the quest to understand things, and by how something you think you know for a fact can be seen in an entirely different light by someone just as smart as you or perhaps smarter.

    Finding out why can sometimes turn your world upside down in a good way.

    I’m lucky because I get to have this experience a lot. Very smart people like to tell me things, and I like to listen. I’m also super slow to understand things, including music.

    Folks laugh at how long it took me to start loving grunge, punk, hiphop, bluegrass etc. Before we learn to embrace sounds that come from beyond our own level of comprehension, it can feel like we’re drowning in information that doesn’t compute.

    For some of us, Music is not a sport. It’s a quest. We’re on it for our whole lives, and it keeps bringing us to new places. But in the meantime:

    Play me a melody that’s gonna open my heart.

    Hit me with a beat and a bass line that’ll move my ass.

    Everyone hears at their own speed.

    Our guest today is a supersonic musician.

    (Cat also likes to read.)

    Shareef Clayton is a jazz trumpeter, a native of Miami, FL and one of the most exciting and creative musicians I’ve ever had the pleasure of working with. The sound and feel of his music is intense, with a repertoire that includes jazz, r&b, Afro­Cuban, funk and soul.

    He’s appeared with Macy Gray, Melody Gardot, Bobby Sanabria, the Duke Ellington Orchestra, Stevie Wonder, The Roots, Michael Mcdonald, Ruben Blades, and many more.

    Once you see what this guy can do, you can never un-see it. He brings an incredible polish and showmanship to his performances, but the sophistication and personality underneath it all makes for a really satisfying trip. I’m glad to know the man, and to know about him. You will be as well.

    We get some of the story, but also go deep on the quest and some of the questioning that goes on when you reach new heights while also facing the same struggles year after year.

    The music life - no matter who you’re looking at - is full of curveballs. But Shareef is another example of a player who knows how to keep developing your talent while learning the mechanics of life and always moving forward.

    It’s an honor to have him on the show.

    Press PLAY above to ear my conversation with Shareef Clayton.

    Or subscribe in your podcast app: Apple Podcasts - Spotify- Stitcher - TuneIn - Overcast - Pocketcast

    Thanks for listening to Play It Like It’s Music. Thanks so much to Shareef Clayton for spending some very generous time with us. You can find him and his music at Shareef Clayton dot com.

    I can’t believe we’ve gotten to 59 shows! If you believe this show deserves a wider audience, please tell a friend:

    Follow me on twitter @trevorexter and talk to me on there if you have thoughts about the show.

    We're all contending with a mutating professional landscape, jacked revenue streams, a catastrophic global pandemic and plenty of other noise out in the culture.

    But you gotta keep playing.

    We don't draw any lines here between scenes or styles.

    As always, thank you for listening and remember to play it like its music.

    You can check out my music on bandcamp and other places. It’s all at my website, trevorexter.com. Sign the mailing list on substack to get this show sent right to you the very moment it comes out.

    Music is a beautiful thing and it makes the world go round.

    Big love to your ears.

    Trevor

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