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    Perpetual Chess Podcast

    Perpetual Chess features weekly conversations with the chess world’s best players, trainers and accomplished amateurs about their careers, current projects, best practices and the latest in chess news. Learn more at PerpetualChessPod.com

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    Ep 504- John Hartmann on the U.S. Championships, Chess Books, and the Future of Chess Technology  Oct 20, 2026
    Show notes

    John Hartmann is the award-winning editor of Chess Life magazine, a longtime book reviewer, and an expert on ChessBase, engines, and chess technology. He joined me shortly after a visit to St. Louis to discuss the ongoing U.S. Chess Championships, the renovations to the St. Louis Chess Club, the latest in chess technology, and his new AI-assisted chess newsletter, First Look Chess. We touched on:

    • John's observations from the U.S. Chess Championships, including the tournament races, the atmosphere in the playing hall, and the impressive renovations to the St. Louis Chess Club.

    • The latest on Stockfish, the enduring value of ChessBase, and the many new chess apps, including ChessEver, ChessMonitor, and ChessCEO.

    • The vision behind John's daily chess newsletter, First Look Chess, and how AI has made such a project possible.

    As we always do when John visits the pod, we also discussed noteworthy chess books, including GM Alex Fishbein's Fighting Father Time, and the challenges of finding time to work on our own chess games.

    Thanks to our sponsors, Claude.ai.

    Check them out at Claude.ai/chess

    0:00 Intro and welcome back to John Hartmann

    1:30 John's visit to the U.S. Chess Championships

    Read John’s article here:

    https://new.uschess.org/news/club-notes-st-louis

    4:30 The new prize encouraging fighting chess

    6:00 Inside the renovated St. Louis Chess Club

    12:00 What it's like to watch the world's best players up close

    16:30 The Women's Championship, Alice Lee and Rachael Li

    19:30 The explosion of new chess apps

    25:00 Is ChessBase still essential?

    28:30 What's new with Stockfish?

    32:00 John's new project, First Look Chess

    37:30 How US Chess does and does not use AI in its chess coverage

    43:30 Covering chess news beyond the biggest headlines

    47:30 Finding time for tournament chess as a busy adult

    50:00 Chess books, Fighting Father Time, and new training tools

    54:30 Why John loves older chess books

    58:00 Boris Gelfand, chess literature, and how young players learn

    1:00:00- Thanks as always to John for sharing his expertise, you can check out and sub to First Look Chess here:

    https://firstlookchess.com/


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    EP 503- GM Nikita Vitiugov on Chess Legends, Career Crossroads, and Team Nepo  Oct 14, 2026
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    GM Nikita Vitiugov is a former Russian champion who reached a peak ranking of #15 in the world. He has represented both his native Russia and England at the Chess Olympiad and worked on the World Championship team of his boyhood rival, GM Ian Nepomniachtchi. In his excellent new book, Chess Metamorphosis, he candidly reflects on his varied chess experiences.

    In our conversation, we discuss:

    • What he learned from working with players like Nepomniachtchi and Peter Svidler, and what he observed from seeing them up close.

    • How two unforgettable training camps with GM Viktor Korchnoi altered the trajectory of his career.

    • Why he has accepted that his best competitive years are behind him, and what that means for his future.

    • How professional chess has changed, and why he might not pursue a chess career if he were starting out today.

    We also discuss the candid, behind-the-scenes photos featured in Nikita's book, his passion for cooking and football, and much more. I loved reading Nikita's book, and it was an honor to hear more about it.

    0:00 Intro

    Thanks to our sponsor Claude AI. Check it out at Claude.ai/chess

    2:00 GM Nikita Vitiugov joins the show

    3:00 Why Nikita wrote Chess Metamorphosis

    6:30 Why Nikita suspects that his best competitive years are behind him

    10:00 How professional chess has changed

    14:00 Growing up alongside Ian Nepomniachtchi

    18:30 Training with the legendary Viktor Korchnoi

    23:30 Working with GM Peter Svidler

    Mentioned: Svidler on being a practical player-

    https://open.spotify.com/episode/7gi9KryNqkNEPZzN3obeU6?si=a7e7505918ed441e

    27:00 What makes Nepomniachtchi and Svidler so talented?

    29:00 Behind the scenes of Team Nepo, including a funny story about a thermos

    35:30 Working with GM Peter Leko

    38:30 Moving to England and adjusting to a new life

    41:00 Nikita's passions for cooking and football

    45:30 His transition to coaching and advice for aspiring professionals

    Thanks to GM VItiugov for joining me! You can order his book and find a free preview via the links below:

    https://www.newinchess.com/chess-metamorphosis

    https://forwardchess.com/product/chess-metamorphosis?section=Products

    Photo in thumbnail by Etery Kublashvili


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    EP 502: GM Mauricio Flores Rios on Finding Lessons in Olympiad Games  Oct 06, 2026
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    As a three-time Chess Olympian representing Chile, GM Mauricio Flores Rios, renowned author of Chess Structures, has fond memories of this timeless, biennial tournament. But these days, he is more interested in the instructive quality of the games than in the races for medals.

    In our conversation, Mauricio discusses some of the most instructive Olympiad games that he reviewed on his YouTube channel before we pivot to a broader conversation about the Olympiad, chess improvement, the challenges of interviewing chess prodigies, and the evolution of his chess startup, ChessMind AI.

    Before we say goodbye, Mauricio shares some improvement advice based on his interactions with countless amateur chess players. It’s always fun chatting with Mauricio!

    0:00 IntroThanks to our sponsors, Claude.ai/chessCheck out Claude-coded Chris Wainscott’s chess site: guessthemove.net3:30 Mauricio joins and reflects on playing in three Chess OlympiadsCheck out Mauricio’s confusing Olimpbase page here:https://www.olimpbase.org/players/l9dxlxdl.html9:00 How Mauricio finds the most instructive Olympiad games12:30 Favorite games and lessons from the eventCheck out Mauricio’s bullet win over GM Vincent Keymer here:https://lichess.org/sVl59MdM?pov=ChessMindAIThe most interesting game:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3SxghzYRB0&list=PLfOXGLq2wea8&index=13Mauricio’s annotations of Abdusattorov-Caruana:https://chessmind.ai/events/chess-olympiad-2026/game-of-the-day/round-9/Mauricio’s Erdogmus-Oro annotations:https://chessmind.ai/events/chess-olympiad-2026/game-of-the-day/round-10/16:00 What stands out about today’s chess prodigies?18:00 What Mauricio has learned from interviewing top young players22:30 Patreon mailbag question: How does Mauricio differentiate his YouTube channelin a crowded field?

    25:30 The evolution of ChessMind AI and what users want most32:30 The challenges of building a chess startup in the AI era47:30 Mauricio’s chess improvement advice and YouTube plans

    Thanks to Mauricio for joining me! Here is how to keep up with him:

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCafpDJknMf7fr1Wlw6jAEMQChessMind AI: https://chessmind.ai Email: mauricio.a.flores.math at gmail.com


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    EP 501: Leah Brown: How an Adult Improver Went From Beginner to 1600+ in Under 2 Years Sep 29, 2026
    Show notes

    The Adult Improver series returns to spotlight another guest who has benefited from chess and improved significantly at the game. Chess was recommended to Leah Brown as a healthier outlet for a mind that, in Leah’s words, tends to “torture itself.” Leah began playing tournaments less than two years ago and already has a peak rating of over 1600 USCF. In our conversation, Leah shares the training approach that has helped propel these gains, including:

    • A lot of OTB chess with comprehensive review

    • A heavy reliance on books, particularly those by IM Jeremy Silman

    • A painful adjustment to 1. e4 openings that will hopefully provide long-term benefits

    Leah also highlights the importance of finding a friendly chess community in Massachusetts and shares the story of beating a GM in a simul. Tune in to hear the rest of this inspiring story.

    0:00- Intro

    Links Mentioned:

    Perpetual Chess Patreon

    Spotify Adult Improver Playlist

    Website

    Form to be considered as an adult improver guest

    1:45 Meet Leah Brown

    2:39 How chess became a healthy outlet

    Mentioned: BIllerica Chess Club

    https://billericachess.42web.io/?i=3

    FM Sandro Safar

    https://lichess.org/coach/Sandro970

    The Real Paul Morphy by FM Charles Hertan

    5:08 Finding a welcoming OTB chess community

    7:11 Getting serious about improvement

    10:28 Jeremy Silman and learning through chess books

    15:28 What fueled Leah’s rapid rating gains?

    20:42 Lessons learned the hard way and switching to 1. e4

    31:38 Rating goals and the ambition to earn a title

    35:34 Advice for adult improvers

    37:09 The role chess plays in Leah’s life

    40:31 Beating a GM in a six-hour simul game

    Mentioned: GM Nadia Kosintseva

    45:25 Closing Advice for Navigating the Chess Community


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    EP 500: Jan Henric Buettner on FIDE, Freestyle Chess and the Game’s Untapped Potential Sep 18, 2026
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    Jan Henric Buettner is a German entrepreneur, co-founder of Freestyle Chess alongside Magnus Carlsen, and a candidate for FIDE President. In his business career he has worked in technology, venture capital and hospitality.

    In our interview, we discuss:

    • The logistical problems some participants encountered at the Olympiad and Jan’s own experience in Samarkand

    • Why Jan believes chess still has vast untapped potential

    • Whether Freestyle Chess can appeal to a wide audience

    • Whether an outsider can defeat FIDE’s establishment candidate

    • What Jan considers chess’s most undervalued commercial asset

    We also touch on lessons Jan has learned from his varied business career, the potential threats posed by AI, and why he believes chess is a great game to introduce to the next generation.

    🕒 Timestamps

    0:00 Intro and Episode 500 housekeeping

    This podcast is brought to you in part by Claude AI. You can try it out via the link below:

    claude.ai/chess3:53 Jan Henric Buettner joins the show4:40 Early logistical problems at the Chess Olympiad9:00 Jan’s business background and what drew him to chess13:40 Building Freestyle Chess and attracting sponsors16:34 Is Freestyle Chess accessible to traditional chess fans?20:25 Jan’s own chess experience22:01 FIDE elections, corruption allegations, and Jan’s chances24:06 Jan’s platform and plans for making FIDE financially independent28:55 Women in chess, cheating, and rating reform34:00 Chess.com’s dominance and the possibility of new competitors35:30 Turning chess players into chess spectators38:00 Why Jan believes the FIDE brand is undervalued39:47 Wadim Rosenstein, Timur Turlov, and the possibility of a split vote40:41 What Jan would do if he loses the election42:09 Could FIDE postpone the election?43:53 Jan’s concerns about AI, venture capital, and the future49:42 Why chess offers an antidote to technology overload

    Thanks to Jan for joining me! You can learn more about his campaign here:

    https://janhenricbuettner.com/



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    EP 499- IM Thomas Willemze on Game Review, Openings & Training with Focus  Sep 15, 2026
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    IM Thomas Willemze is a popular author, Chessable creator, and trainer who has worked with the Dutch National Youth Team, among countless other students. A data analyst by day, Thomas brings an analytical approach to thinking about the core components of chess improvement.

    In our conversation, we draw on Thomas's experiences as both a player and coach to tease out practical lessons for improving players. We discuss everything from game review and opening preparation to how to improve your focus while studying and playing. Thomas also shares some book recommendations, reflects on learning chess from the creators of the Steps Method while they were still developing it, and recounts what happened when, at age 40, he gave himself a year to seriously pursue his GM ambitions.

    Timestamps of topics discussed can be found below.

    Free perpetual Chess Discord:

    https://discord.gg/UpRTQfjQB

    Free Newsletter:

    https://benjohnson.substack.com/

    00:00 Introduction to the Interview with Thomas Willems

    Thanks to our sponsors, Claude AI, check them out at:

    Claude.AI/chess

    02:01 Introduction to IM Thomas Willemze

    04:07 The Intersection of Data Science and Chess

    07:09 Thomas’ Training and Coaching Philosophy

    09:55 The Chess Steps Method and Early Chess Education

    mentioned : Rob Brunia and IM Cor van Wijgerden

    15:36 Addressing Weaknesses and Improving Skills

    Mentioned: Fundamental Chess Endings, Dvoretsky’s books, GM Yury Averbakh’s books

    18:08 Common Pitfalls for Adult Players

    20:51 Patreon mailbag question:

    How can we improve our focus when playing games and studying?

    23:55 Defensive Awareness and Identifying Threats

    27:00 Patreon mailbag question: Does Thomas see parallels between chess and football/soccer strategy?

    28:48 The Balance of Attack and Defense in Chess

    30:28 Effective Study Strategies for Ambitious Players

    32:07 Reviewing Games: Learning from Mistakes

    33:34 The Competitive Landscape of Modern Chess

    38:26 Preparing for Upcoming Tournaments

    40:05 Choosing an Opening Repertoire

    42:01 Current Projects and Future Endeavors

    44:08 Chess Content Recommendations and Personal Interests

    Mentioned: 100 Endgames You Must Know

    50:00- Thanks to IM Willemze for joining me. You can reach him via his Chessable author’s page:

    https://www.chessable.com/author/Willemze/


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    EP 498- IM David Vigorito on How to Improve as an Adult & Build a Better Opening Repertoire  Sep 08, 2026
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    IM David Vigorito is a three-time state champion, renowned opening theoretician and trainer, and the author of many highly regarded books and Chessable courses. His latest course, 1. e4: The Gold Standard, offers an ambitious, principled repertoire against all of Black’s major responses.

    In our conversation, we discuss:

    • How David’s process for researching openings has changed as engines have grown increasingly powerful.

    • What adult improvers can learn from David’s own unusual chess journey and the huge rating gains he made in his late teens, 20s, and 30s.

    • Why players should sometimes deliberately play openings and positions that make them uncomfortable.

    • The challenges of finding opportunities to compete while balancing chess with work and family obligations.

    David also shares a funny story about the unexpected chain of events that followed our first interview in 2019, explains some of the ambitious choices in his new 1. e4 repertoire, and shares his strong opinions on Chess960 and some recent trends in professional chess.

    It’s always fun to catch up with David, and there is lots of practical chess advice in this one.

    0:00 Intro

    Thanks to our sponsor Claude.ai

    Check them out at Claude.ai/chess

    2:30 David’s new 1. e4 course and how engine-era opening research has changed

    6:55 Why David recommends ambitious, principled opening lines

    15:15 How much opening theory do amateur players actually need?

    20:40 Adult improvement: what helped David make huge rating gains

    26:00 The New England chess scene and David’s tournament schedule

    31:55 A funny story stemming from David’s first Perpetual Chess interview

    38:20 Improving by working on your weaknesses

    44:00 Following professional chess and David’s dislike of alternative scoring formats

    45:40 Why David has no interest in Chess960

    Vigorito-Aagaard 2025

    https://www.chesshere.com/master-games/1822045?fen=r1bqk2r%2Fpppp1ppp%2F2n2n2%2F1B2p3%2F1b2P3%2F2N2N2%2FPPPP1PPP%2FR1BQK2R+w+KQkq+-+6+5

    50:30 What’s next for David

    https://www.chessable.com/author/dvigorito/

    52:00- Thanks to David for joining me! Be sure to check out his courses on Chessable:

    https://www.chessable.com/author/dvigorito/

    If you would like to help support Perpetual Chess via Patreon, you can do so here:

    https://www.patreon.com/c/perpetualchess


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    EP 497- GM Valentin Dragnev on Improving Thought Processes, Building Chess Community and his Most Memorable OTB Moments  Sep 01, 2026
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    GM Valentin Dragnev is a two-time Austrian national champion and former chess Olympian who has had memorable OTB encounters with GM Magnus Carlsen, Vasyl Ivanchuk, and many other top players. After achieving so much over the board, he has increasingly focused his attention on chess training and a community-focused website he co-founded, Chessivity.com. We discuss:

    • The story behind Valentin’s fast rise up the ranks after a relatively late start to tournament chess.

    • The struggles he has observed that adult students have in developing consistent thought processes.

    • The vision behind Chessivity, a website that aims to connect chess players and help them track and share their chess training.

    • Stories from Valentin’s chess career, including nearly beating Magnus Carlsen and cycling from Austria to Budapest to compete in the Chess Olympiad.

    This was a very insightful conversation with lots of good stories and practical chess advice.

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    03:05 GM Dragnev’s rise up the ranks

    Mentioned:

    The Art of Planning in Chess by GM Neal McDonald

    https://www.amazon.com/Art-Planning-Chess-Move/dp/071349025X

    12:14 Transitioning to Chess as a Career

    15:31 Advice for Parents and Young Players

    18:29 Coaching Adults vs. Kids

    21:52 The Importance of Thought Process in Chess

    26:53 The Birth of Chessivity

    30:32 Integrating Chessivity with User Accounts

    Follow Ben here:

    https://chessivity.com/profile/bennyficial1

    31:05 Future Features and User Feedback

    33:11 Valentin's Chess Career Highlights

    35:05 Playing Against Magnus Carlsen

    Check out the Sicilian game here:

    https://lichess.org/broadcast/european-team-championship-open/round-2/kLFgyBxS/QCqXtaGu

    38:39 Training and Preparation Strategies

    42:10 Working with Top Players

    44:46 Balancing Coaching and Competitive Play

    47:07 Misconceptions in Chess Improvement

    52:22 Valentin tells the story of cycling from Austria to Budapest before competing in the Olympiad

    56:03 Thanks to Valentin for joining!

    Find him on Chessivity:

    https://chessivity.com/profile/valentin

    Lichess coaches:

    https://lichess.org/coach/DrAgnevstein


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    EP 496: Kyle Boddy on His Continued Journey from Sub-1000 to 1550 USCF Aug 25, 2026
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    The Adult Improver Series returns to welcome back an accomplished guest. Kyle Boddy is the founder of Driveline Baseball, an influential company that provides training and performance guidance for professional and aspiring baseball players. Despite the demands of running a company and raising a family, Kyle values chess as a hobby and makes plenty of time for it.

    When I first interviewed Kyle in 2022, he was rated below 1000 USCF, but was working diligently and had a long-term hope of reaching USCF 2000. Four years later, he has stuck with it and made considerable progress, recently reaching a new peak of nearly 1550 USCF.

    In this follow-up, we discuss:

    • Why he still loves openings, and how studying them deeply has given him a competitive advantage against many higher-rated opponents.

    • How he combines old-school, analog training methods with sophisticated uses of AI and chess technology.

    • The parallels he sees between improving at physical pursuits like baseball and improving at chess.

    • The immense value he gains from being part of a vibrant chess community in the Pacific Northwest.

    It is inspiring to see Kyle’s continued dedication to chess, and I look forward to following his continued progress in the coming years.

    0:00- Intro

    Join the Perpetual Chess Patreon community:

    https://www.patreon.com/c/perpetualchess

    Join the free discord:

    https://discord.gg/hN3CJsbGn

    More on the Adult Improver Series:

    Spotify Playlist:

    https://open.spotify.com/playlist/75Uoqz2BoRt2IiTCeOfuky?si=8fda103624514126

    Website:

    https://www.perpetualchesspod.com/adultimprover

    Check out our sponsor, Claude Co-work at Claude.ai/chess

    04:22 Kyle Boddy joins

    06:05 What keeps Kyle playing and improving?

    07:36 Switching to 1.e4 and open games

    Mentioned: Anand-Nunn 1990

    https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1018185

    08:43 Why Kyle still loves studying openings

    10:45 How Kyle actually studies openings

    12:12 Studying games blindfolded

    16:00 How Kyle uses AI for chess

    18:19 Engines, Maia Chess and practical preparation

    20:34 Kyle’s tournament routine

    24:19 How he trains tactics

    26:48 Building a new opening repertoire

    29:42 Daily chess habits

    30:49 The importance of a chess community

    34:17 Tournament chess in Seattle and beyond

    35:20 Aging and adult chess improvement

    37:45 Kyle’s path toward 1800-2000

    40:11 Improving at endgames

    42:50 Understanding vs. memorizing openings

    44:35 The Joey Votto chess bet

    45:33 Chess’s popularity among pro athletes

    47:05 How much Kyle studies chess

    Can Adults Improve at Chess by NM Todd Bryant

    https://www.chess.com/article/view/can-adults-improve-at-chess

    50:22 Blogging, AI and hiding your prep

    52:53 Baseball vs. chess improvement

    55:46 Will Kyle still be playing at 50?

    56:00- Thanks to Kyle for joining and sharing his inspiring progress- follow his blog here:

    https://www.kyleboddy.com/blog/


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    EP 495- How Bill Goichberg Changed American Chess with FM Jon Jacobs  Aug 18, 2026
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    With the recent news of his passing, this week we look at the remarkable and wide-ranging chess legacy of FM Bill Goichberg. Among many other distinctions, Bill was the founder of the Continental Chess Association and the creator of the U.S. National Scholastic Championships, and he left an indelible mark on the U.S. chess scene.

    My guest is chess journalist FM Jon Jacobs, who is working on an independent biography of Bill. Jon grew up in New York and got to know Bill personally as a top young scholastic player, with a young Bill Goichberg directing some of his formative tournaments in Brooklyn. Decades later, Bill sat down for 15 hours’ worth of interviews with Jon, which Jon has been crafting into a book.

    In our interview, we discuss Bill’s business legacy, chess accomplishments, family life, and much more. Bill changed the course of American chess, and I am grateful to Jon for joining me and fleshing out his life story.

    00:00 - Intro and remembering FM Bill Goichberg

    0:02- Maurice Ashley tweet regarding Goichberg-

    https://x.com/MauriceAshley?lang=en06:13 - Jon’s first memories of Bill08:14 - How Bill got started organizing tournaments14:16 - Growing chess in the pre-Fischer era18:21 - Bill’s proudest contributions to US chess22:54 - Continental Chess and its competitors24:39 - How big a business did CCA become?29:50 - Bill’s wife Brenda and their life together35:35 - Bill’s beginnings as a chess player39:48 - How strong was Bill as a player?44:07 - Did Bill ever work outside of chess?

    Mentioned: CCA and Domainvision.com

    https://www.chesstour.com/aboutcca.htm47:38 - The Continental Chess business model51:54 - Why Jon is writing Bill’s biography57:01 - Where to follow Jon’s work

    1:00:00- Thanks to Jon for coming on, you can follow his Facebook page here-

    https://www.facebook.com/p/A-Pawn-Made-Flesh-61568668591626/

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    https://www.patreon.com/c/perpetualchess


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