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    Paul, Weiss Waking Up With AI

    Katherine Forrest brings you Paul, Weiss Waking Up With AI, an innovative podcast focused on cutting-edge AI in both tech and law. Katherine will walk you through the day’s biggest developments in AI just in time for your first cup of coffee.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Cost and Efficiency: The Engineering Behind China's Open-Weight AI Models Jul 23, 2026
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    In this episode, Katherine Forrest and Scott Caravello explore the rise of Chinese open weight AI models, breaking down the innovative engineering techniques behind their efficiency and the significant cost advantages driving their rapid adoption among developers worldwide.

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    Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence practice:
    https://www.paulweiss.com/industries/artificial-intelligence


    Tracking Code, Truthful AI, and Quantum Threats Jul 16, 2026
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    In this episode, Katherine Forrest and Scott Caravello break down the discovery of hidden steganographic tracking code inside Anthropic's Claude Code, the FTC's proposed statement on AI output accuracy and disclosure, and IBM's warning that the quantum threat to internet encryption may already be in motion.

    For the sources referenced in this episode, please see the links below:

    Anthropic: Letter to Senators Tim Scott and Elizabeth Warren Re: AI Distillation Threats

    FTC: Proposed Policy Statement Concerning the Suppression of Accuracy in Artificial Intelligence Systems

    IBM: Q-Day has already begun. Are you ready?

    Thereallo: Claude Code Is Steganographically Marking Requests

    Prior Paul, Weiss Waking Up With AI Quantum Episodes:

    • Ep. 107 – Degrees of Change: How Quantum Could Transform AI Infrastructure
    • Ep. 54 – Defining Quantum Computing: Part 2
    • Ep. 53 – Defining Quantum Computing

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    Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence practice:
    https://www.paulweiss.com/industries/artificial-intelligence


    De Facto Regulation and Legislative Proposals for Agentic AI Jul 09, 2026
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    In this episode, Katherine Forrest and Scott Caravello track the path from model release to government review, covering the Fable 5 and Mythos 5 saga, GPT 5.6's gated rollout, and a discussion draft of a bill that would give AI agents formal duties to their users while guaranteeing users can leverage agents to access major platforms.

    For the sources referenced in this episode, please see the links below:

    Morgan Stanley: Here Come the Shopping Bots

    Office of Senator Mark R. Warner: Artificial Intelligence Access, Gatekeeper Exchange, and Nondiscriminatory Transfer Act (AI AGENT Act)

    OpenAI: GPT-5.6 Preview System Card

    U.S. Supreme Court: Trump v. Slaughter

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    Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence practice:
    https://www.paulweiss.com/industries/artificial-intelligence


    AI in the UK: Policy, Investment, and the Road Ahead Jul 02, 2026
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    In this episode, Katherine Forrest and Scott Caravello are joined by John Patten to examine the current state of AI law and policy in the UK. They walk through the country's regulatory framework, its growing AI market, and the latest developments in copyright, patents, and online safety.

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    Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence practice:
    https://www.paulweiss.com/industries/artificial-intelligence


    The Personhood Predicament Jun 25, 2026
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    In this episode, Katherine Forrest and Scott Caravello examine the emerging legal and policy debate around AI personhood, covering how different jurisdictions are approaching the question and what it means for accountability, liability, and the evolving role of AI in society.

    For the sources referenced in this episode, please see the links below:

    Financial Times: Javier Milei: Argentina invites AI to free itself

    Financial Times: We must not grant AI agents legal personhood

    Fordham Law Review: Of Another Mind: AI And The Attachment Of Human Ethical Obligations

    Mustafa Suleyman: Seemingly Conscious AI is Coming

    Yale Law Journal Forum: The Ethics and Challenges of Legal Personhood for AI

    Idaho State Legislature: The AI Personhood Prohibition Act (H.B. 720)

    Ohio State Legislature: Declare A.I. systems nonsentient; prohibit legal personhood (H.B. 469)

    Tennessee Secretary of State: AN ACT to amend Tennessee Code Annotated, Title 1, relative to certain conditions of personhood. (Public Chapter No. 781)

    Utah State Legislature: Utah Legal Personhood Amendments (H.B. 249)

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    Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence practice:
    https://www.paulweiss.com/industries/artificial-intelligence


    Copyright Office Oversight and Claude’s Next Chapter Jun 18, 2026
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    In this episode, Katherine Forrest and Scott Caravello discuss Anthropic’s release of Claude Fable 5 and Claude Mythos 5, including the safeguards designed to manage cybersecurity, biological risk, and model distillation concerns. They also preview a pending congressional bill that could affect oversight of the Copyright Office and explore why that development may matter for AI and fair use.

    For the sources referenced in this episode, please see the links below:

    Anthropic: System Card: Claude Fable 5 & Claude Mythos 5

    U.S. Congress: Legislative Branch Agencies Clarification Act, H.R.6028

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    Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence practice:
    https://www.paulweiss.com/industries/artificial-intelligence


    The EU AI Act: Risk Tiers and Shifting Gears Jun 11, 2026
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    In this episode, Katherine Forrest and Scott Caravello phone a friend across the pond to discuss the latest developments under the EU AI Act. John Patten, head of the UK and European Intellectual Property & Technology practice for Paul, Weiss, joins the conversation to unpack the digital omnibus package, revised high-risk AI timelines, transparency obligations, and draft guidance on AI system classification.

    For the sources referenced in this episode, please see the links below:

    OJEU: The AI Act Explorer

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    Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence practice:
    https://www.paulweiss.com/industries/artificial-intelligence


    Special Edition: The White House’s Executive Order on AI Model Testing, Explained Jun 05, 2026
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    In this special edition, Katherine Forrest and Scott Caravello dive into the latest executive order on AI and cybersecurity, discussing its two main pillars: (i) a voluntary review and testing framework for AI models with the most advanced cybersecurity capabilities and (ii) a defensive strategy to promote the federal government’s cybersecurity defenses, including by promoting enhancement of AI-enabled defensive tools and facilitating critical infrastructure operators’ access to those same tools. Analyzing the order, along with its various directives to federal agencies, they explore the potential implications for AI developers and the broader cybersecurity landscape.

    For the sources referenced in this episode, please see the links below:

    The White House: Promoting Advanced Artificial Intelligence Innovation and Security

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    Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence practice:
    https://www.paulweiss.com/industries/artificial-intelligence


    Lightning Round: AI From All Angles Jun 04, 2026
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    In this episode, Katherine Forrest and Scott Caravello tackle a packed week in AI news through a lightning round spanning executive action, the Pope’s encyclical on AI, state-level labor policy, courtroom discovery battles, and the frontier of multimodal video generation.

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    Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence practice:
    https://www.paulweiss.com/industries/artificial-intelligence


    High Stakes Chips: The Players, the Politics, and the Payoff May 28, 2026
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    In this episode, Katherine Forrest and Scott Caravello cover the rapidly evolving AI chip market—from startups focused on wafer-scale chips to tech giants building their own processors. They also explore the geopolitical issues surrounding chip manufacturing, including export controls and the global supply chain's heavy dependence on Taiwan.

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    Learn More About Paul, Weiss’s Artificial Intelligence practice:
    https://www.paulweiss.com/industries/artificial-intelligence


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