Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks

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Episode 141: On The Life and Ministry of J. I. Packer Jul 28, 2020

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Episode 140: A Conversation about Grace Community Church's Statement on Civil Disobedience Jul 25, 2020

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Jonathan and Mark chat about Grace Community Church’s decision, civil disobedience, and how Christians ought to approach this season with an extra amount of charity and grace.

Episode 139: On Remembering J. I. Packer Jul 22, 2020

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In this special episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman asks Mark Dever to reflect on his friendship with J. I. Packer.

Episode 138: On What if I Don't Desire to Pray (with John Onwuchekwa) Jul 21, 2020

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As Christians, we know we should pray. But too often, we fail to because we simply don’t desire to.

Episode 137: On What If I Don't Feel Like Going to Church (with Gunner Gundersen) Jul 14, 2020

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Sadly, missing church is common. Sometimes, it's for good reasons; other times, it's not. As a pastor, how many times have you heard a member tell you, "I'm so sorry we missed last Sunday—we just couldn't make it with everything we have going on!"?
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Gunner Gundersen about how we should respond to those who simply don't feel like going to church—and so they miss for this-or-that reason.

Episodes 136: On Pastors and Social Media Jul 07, 2020

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Many pastors feel pressure from their members to speak up on social media. “Why aren’t you talking about ___________? Don’t you care?”
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about how pastors ought to approach social media use.

Episode 135: On Shepherding: The Work and Character of a Pastor Jun 30, 2020

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In this Pastors Talk episode, Jonathan chats with Mark about the new 9Marks Journal: On Shepherding — The Work and Character of a Pastor. They focus on three traits of a pastor:
— They should be godly & gifted, but especially godly.
— They should care about other churches.
— They shouldn’t freak out.

Episode 134: On the Difference between Revival and Revivalism Jun 23, 2020

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In his book Revival & Revivalism, Iain Murray defines revival as God using ordinary means to effect extraordinary change. That’s much different than revivalism, which is when man tries to use extraordinary means to effect the same, extraordinary change.
Can you tell the difference between the two? Is it even possible? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan asks Mark to take a brief tour of church history so that pastors and Christians today can discern the difference between revival—a good thing—and revivalism—a bad thing.

Episode 133: On Why Should I Join a Church? Jun 15, 2020

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Have you ever met a growing Christian who is self-consciously choosing not to join a church? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about the vital necessity of joining a local church.
For more on this topic, check out Mark’s new mini-book in the Church Questions series: "Why Should I Join a Church?"

Episode 132: On Teaching Your Church about Issues Related to Race (with Jeff Brown, James Miles, and Mark Vroegop) Jun 09, 2020

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Should pastors try to educate their church about issues related to race and racism? If so, how?
In this Pastors’ Talk episode, Jonathan Leeman chats with three staff members of College Park Church—Mark Vroegop, Jeff Brown, and James Miles—about what they’ve done, how they’ve done it, and why the journey is worth whatever difficulties it brings.

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