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Episode 150: On Cleaning the Membership Rolls - Part 2 (with Matt Schmucker) Nov 03, 2020

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Episode 149 explained what “cleaning the rolls” means, and why pastors should lead their churches to do it. Episode 150 continues the conversation, but focuses on how to actually get it done.
Jonathan Leeman, Mark Dever, and Matt Schmucker discuss.

Episode 149: On Cleaning the Membership Rolls - Part 1 (with Matt Schmucker) Oct 27, 2020

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Some churches report hundreds of members, with dozens in attendance. These churches need to “clean their rolls.”
Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Matt Schmucker about what that means and why churches should do it.

Episode 148: On How A Culture of Discipling + Lay Elders = Church Planting Oct 20, 2020

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Healthy churches plant churches. But how? What causes a church to “bubble over”? Here’s one way.

Episode 147: On the Appeal and the Errors of Theonomy (with T. David Gordon) Oct 12, 2020

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Broadly speaking, “theonomy” is the theological persuasion that civil societies ought to be governed by the Mosaic Law. In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever chat with T. David Gordon about the errors and appeal of theonomy.

Episode 146: On Preparing for a Tough Political Season (Part 2) Oct 06, 2020

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We just released a new Journal: Pastoring through Political Turmoil. In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan chats with Mark about the Journal in particular and the topic of pastoring through an election season in general.

Episode 145: On Preparing for a Tough Political Season (Part 1) Sep 29, 2020

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In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan talk about how pastors can prepare their people for a tough political season.

Episode 144: On Lay Elders - Part 2 (with Klon Kitchen) Sep 22, 2020

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How do you prevent a potential friction between staff and lay elders? How do you ensure they’re not just “yes men”? How much deference should non-staff elders give others?
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman, Mark Dever, and Klon Kitchen continue their conversation on lay elders.

Episode 143: On Lay Elders - Part 1 (with Klon Kitchen) Sep 15, 2020

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Churches ought to have elders. Some will be paid (1 Tim. 5), but many will be not. These unpaid elders are called “lay elders.” Is this distinction in this Bible? Are lay elders “minor-league elders”? Are they called to ministry in the same way senior pastors are? How can a church make sure that there isn’t a deep divide between elders who are paid by the church and those who aren’t?
In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Klon Kitchen (a lay elder at Cheverly Baptist Church) about these questions and more.

Bible Talk — Genesis 1:1–3:19: On the Serpent, the Promised Seed, and Nahash the King of the Ammonites Sep 09, 2020

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In this inaugural episode of Bible Talk, Alex Duke chats with Jim Hamilton and Sam Emadi about the first three chapters of Genesis. These first three chapters of the Bible are so important because they set the trajectory for everything that comes next—all the way until we get to Revelation 22.
Bible Talk is available on iTunes, Spotify and 9Marks.org.

Episode 142: On Preparing for the Next Guy Sep 08, 2020

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