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    Passive Income Through Multifamily Real Estate

    Welcome to the Passive Income Through Multifamily Real Estate Podcast brought to you by Vertical Street Ventures, where we talk to top experts and seasoned passive investors in the business to help provide clarity and key insights to keep you safe on your journey to financial freedom. Our goal is to help you get educated on how to create passive income for you and your family by using real estate as your vehicle.

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    Episode #107: Buying Multifamily at Wholesale Prices to Reduce your Risk with Tim Bratz Jun 22, 2020
    Show notes

    With the right industry knowledge and a risk-mitigating model, any real estate investor could stop trading their time for money and enjoy true mailbox money. Our guest today is Tim Bratz and he joins us on the show to speak about how he has it all figured out in this regard. Tim is the CEO and founder of Legacy Wealth Holdings, a real estate investment company that acquires and transforms distressed commercial and apartment buildings into high-performance investment assets. Tim’s investment companies currently own over 3,700 rental units across eight different states, equivalent to a $300 million portfolio! Today on the show, Tim starts by talking about how he learned real estate through the school of hard knocks, finally coming to see the huge yields offered by apartment flipping. He then moves on to speak about how assistants, partnerships, and having a big business have helped him generate passive income and focus on his strengths: marketing and acquisitions. After that, Tim gets into three procedures for a successful investment firm, and how he mitigates risk using a brilliant and multifaceted business model. Tim then talks about his ‘shoot the net wide’ strategy for weeding out hundreds of bad deals a month and getting to the great ones fast. For top tips from a seasoned pro about leveraging people and generating a risk-free business, you should definitely plug into today’s episode!


    Key Points From This Episode:

    • Tim’s path to financial freedom at 25 years old through flipping houses and equity splits.
    • How Tim went broke starting a business then reentered real estate and flipped apartments.
    • A liquidation of Tim’s apartment flipping partnership after which he founded a company.
    • How apartments yielded a 10% time to 90% income ratio leading to Tim closing the company.
    • A tripling of Tim’s income coming after he hired an assistant and focussed on apartment flips.
    • The line between leveraging staff and over-hiring, and how Tim found himself doing the latter.
    • Levels of efficiencies; how it is easier to run a big business than a small one.
    • Joint venturing with people who excel at things you don’t, allowing you to focus on strengths.
    • How Tim leveraged his lawyer’s skills while making him richer too by partnering with him.
    • The idea that by leveraging A players one can have one’s time back and build wealth.
    • Three procedures for mastering real estate: finding deals, raising money, and operations.
    • How Tim’s buying and selling model which emphasizes options mitigates risk.
    • A reminder never to forget to make bold offers because that’s how you find amazing deals.


    Tweetables:

    “I think a lot of us get involved in real estate for that allure of passive income and residual income, that mailbox money. But then we all get stuck in this transactional trap of trading our time for money.” — Tim Bratz [0:03:02]

    “When you lose money, the real character of somebody comes out. God forbid, you make money. People get even nastier, right?” — Tim Bratz [0:07:19]

    “I hired an assistant in March of 2015. In the next 10 months, I tripled my income.” — Tim Bratz [0:12:47]


    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Tim Bratz on LinkedIn

    Tim Bratz on Facebook

    Tim Bratz on Instagram

    Legacy Wealth Holdings

    Legacy Wealth on YouTube

    APT Capital Group

    APT Capital Group - YouTube Channel


    Episode #106: Taxes with Brandon Hall Jun 19, 2020
    Show notes

    Brandon Hall is a CPA who runs a firm called The Real Estate CPA, and in today’s episode, he talks to listeners about taxes. His first recommendation is for syndicators to understand what they are trying to accomplish with their deals and whether they are aiming to tax optimize or simply break even. He goes on the explain the importance of knowing the 2013 tangible property regulations and how it pertains to syndication, and then gets into why electing out of the business interest limitations is advisable in most instances. Brandon walks listeners through the nitty-gritty of the K-1 form, where the most pertinent details are located, and why it is of utmost necessity to keep track of your capital balance as a limited partner.


    Key Points From This Episode:

    • Learn about Brandon’s CPA firm, its clientele, and the number of employees.
    • The three biggest tax considerations that asset managers should pay attention to.
    • Why it is important to know the 2013 tangible property regulations.
    • Establishing whether you are trying to maximize losses or simply break even.
    • Advice for when syndicators should seek help with their taxes.
    • An explanation of what business interest limitations are and how they impact syndicators.
    • A breakdown of what a K1 looks like and the details that are relevant to you.
    • The importance of tracking your capital account balance as a limited partner.


    Tweetables:

    “If I put 50,000 bucks into a partnership, then my capital account is 50,000 bucks. If the partnership liquidates and it has a gain, first they have to pay me back my 50,000 before it's allowed to distribute gain to anybody else.” — @BHallCPA [0:10:02]

    “The biggest thing that you need to make sure that you very clearly track is that capital count on an ongoing basis.” — @BHallCPA [0:12:08]


    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Brandon Hall on LinkedIn

    Brandon Hall on Twitter

    The Real Estate CPA

    Passive Income through Multifamily Real Estate Group on Facebook

    Gary Lipsky on Twitter

    APT Capital Group

    APT Capital Group - YouTube Channel

    Kyle Mitchell on Facebook

    Garzella Group


    Episode #105: The Investor Mindset with Steven Pesavento Jun 15, 2020
    Show notes

    When it comes to real estate investing, you could have the best investment strategies or the most unique business model, but without the correct mindset, you’re unlikely to make it very far. By continuing to let self-limiting beliefs dictate your choices, you will always make decisions from a position of fear, which will hold you back from your potential. Our guest today, Steven Pasevento, is the host of the Investor Mindset Podcast and an active investor who has flipped over 150 homes within his first two years in the business. One of his core beliefs is that investing in yourself leads to the biggest return on investment, which is why he is a proponent of putting in the work to change your mindset. In this episode, we learn about Steven’s background and how he has managed to achieve real estate success despite starting with very limited capital. By not giving into self-doubt, he was able to achieve more than he ever dreamed of. He wanted to share these lessons with others, which prompted him to start his Investor Mindset podcast. After interviewing over 100 people, who are all at the top of the game, he noticed a pattern: It is important to have your mind in the right place, to have the right thoughts and beliefs so that you can take the right actions in your life.


    Key Points From This Episode:

    • Learn more about Steven’s background and his experience in real estate so far.
    • Find out Steven’s motivation for starting The Investor Mindset podcast.
    • What happened when Steven entered into a head-to-head negotiation with Chris Voss.
    • Why embracing challenges rather than running away from them will lead to greater growth.
    • How to build up discipline, which is a crucial mindset tool that will help you succeed.
    • Why adopting a growth mindset helps you reframe mistakes as learning opportunities.
    • A small action you can take today to shift your mindset into a more positive one.
    • Break down your large goal into small, actionable daily steps to not feel overwhelmed.
    • Final four questions with Steven: A tool he can’t live without, his biggest mistake, and more.


    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Steven Pesavento

    Steven Pesavento on Instagram

    Steven Pesavento on LinkedIn

    Steven Pesavento on Twitter

    The Investor Mindset

    The Investor Mindset Podcast

    Free eBook

    Christopher Voss

    Chris Voss on The Investor Mindset

    Wayne Patton

    Wayne Patton’s phone number

    Frank Kern

    APT Capital Group

    APT Capital Group - YouTube Channel

    Passive Income Through Multifamily Real Estate Facebook Group

    Free Call with Kyle or Lalita


    Episode #104: KPI's with Merrill Kaliser Jun 12, 2020
    Show notes

    In real estate, as in other lines of work, data and information is power. Here to discuss the irreplaceable utility of key performance indicators or KPIs, is Merrill Kaliser. Merrill uses KPIs across his multiple businesses and they make up the foundation of how he stays on top of his different ventures. He speaks to the most important indicators for the real estate business and how he and his team manage the data that comes in. Merrill brings attention to property and asset management statistics as well as information around leads and where they come from. If you cannot measure which avenue of your marketing is working, you will not know where to put more energy! Merrill has so much enthusiasm and insight to share, with the key takeaway being the immediacy of the collected information. He covers rent collection, vacation notice, and work order KPIs before drilling down on the idea of costs per lead converted. For all this in a punchy Friday episode, tune in!


    Key Points From This Episode:

    • The different avenues of Merrill's work and how he stays busy.
    • Merrill's use of KPIs to manage his businesses and how excited he gets about measuring.
    • The KPIs Merrill gives the most attention; property and asset management.
    • Managing the KPI information and the tools Merrill is using to collect and store it.
    • The often-overlooked KPI around leads and why Merrill attaches so much value to it.
    • Why Merrill's asset management superpower lies in his team!


    Tweetables:

    “We use KPIs on every single business that generates revenue and or has expenses going out.” — @LonghornInvest [0:02:13]

    “The first thing I do when I wake up every morning is I look in my inbox and I have about 17 different KPIs.” — @LonghornInvest [0:02:50]


    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Kaliser & Associates

    Merrill Kalister on LinkedIn

    Merrill Kaliser on Twitter

    Longhorn Investments

    Enron

    Tableau

    Yardi

    RENTcafe

    Apartments.com

    Apartment Guide

    APT Capital Group

    Passive Income through Multifamily Real Estate Group on Facebook

    Kyle Mitchell on Facebook

    APT Capital Group

    APT Capital Group - YouTube Channel

    Garzella Group



    Episode #103: Solo 401k’s and Checkbook Control with Dmitriy Fomichenko Jun 08, 2020
    Show notes

    We know that having a diverse investment portfolio is important for you to be able to weather any storms. So, what if there was a way to use your 401(k) or IRA to invest in real estate? Luckily there is, and today’s guest, Dmitriy Fomichenko, is here to share more on solo 401(k)s and checkbook control, which are both vehicles that help you cast a wider investment net. We kick off the episode by learning more about what self-directed IRAs and solo 401(k)s are. We learn about the advantages of each of them, along with the specific criteria that need to be met to hold either of these investment vehicles. We then move onto why checkbook control is preferable over a custodial account. Not only it is more flexible, but you also save on fees. From there, we look at how W-2 employees can use a side job to benefit from UBIT tax. Finally, we round the show off with some final advice from Dmitriy and his last four questions. Be sure to tune in today!


    Key Points From This Episode:

    • Learn more about Dmitriy’s background and what he’s currently involved with.
    • Find out what self-directed IRAs are.
    • Solo 401(k)s: What they are, fulfilling criteria to get one and some powerful benefits.
    • Custodial account versus checkbook control: The differences and pros of a checkbook.
    • Some common prohibited actions associated with 401(k)s and IRAs.
    • Consequences of committing prohibited actions and the importance of knowing the ropes.
    • The benefits of using a solo 401(k) over an IRA for real estate investing.
    • How W-2 employees can benefit from UBIT and the importance of having multiple incomes.
    • Find out how Dmitriy started investing in multifamily syndications.
    • Self-directed IRAs and solo 401(k)s are incredibly versatile investment vehicles!
    • Final four questions with Dmitriy His biggest mistake

    Tweetables:

    “Solo 401(k) is a great alternative to self-directed IRA. Solo 401(k) is specifically designed for those people who are self-employed or own a small business..” — @dfomichenko [0:04:36]

    “Solo 401(k) is designed as a trust of which you are the trustee as a client.” — @dfomichenko [0:07:46]


    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Sense Financial Services

    Free Sense Financial Services Consultation

    Dmitriy Fomichenko

    Dmitriy Fominchenko on Twitter

    Fidelity

    Charles Schwab

    Merrill Lynch

    Wayne Patton

    Wayne Patton’s phone number

    APT Capital Group

    APT Capital Group - YouTube Channel

    Passive Income Through Multifamily Real Estate Facebook Group

    Free Call with Kyle or Lalita


    Episode #102: Reporting with Alain Villegas Jun 05, 2020
    Show notes

    Alain Villegas is a full-time real estate investor based in Dallas, Texas who has over $60 million of properties under asset management, just under 900 doors spread across seven apartments. He has also invested as a limited partner in eight properties, just over 1,200 doors in total. In this episode, Alain talks about real estate reporting, from the reports acquired from property managers to the ones created for internal purposes and to keep investors updated. Tuning in to this episode, you will learn why you should not only pay close attention to monthly and weekly reports but also daily ones to keep abreast of property performance. This also allows asset managers to assume a proactive approach instead of waiting for things to happen. Alain advises on the most important reporting elements to note, how regularly they should be tracked, and how this information can be communicated to the different parties. We also discuss software tools, the ultimate report, and the importance of anticipating challenges.


    Key Points From This Episode:

    • Learn about the number and locations of properties that Alain manages.
    • What the daily, weekly, and monthly reports from third-party property managers include.
    • The three weekly reports: property performance, property make-ready, and status-of reports.
    • The channel through which reporting data is communicated daily.
    • Hear which elements are most important and how frequently they should be tracked.
    • The reports created for internal purposes and the ones used to update investors.
    • Trusted property management software tools to manage various reports.
    • What the ideal report would look like and the kind of information it would provide.
    • Leading by being proactive and anticipating future challenges.


    Tweetables:

    “For me, the most critical is the budget versus actual net operating income. The reason for this is it is already reflective of the overall performance of your operations, taking into account both your revenue and expense.” — Alain Villegas [0:04:07]

    “Be proactive. Always stay ahead of things. Lead not only in your team but anticipate future challenges.” — Alain Villegas [0:09:37]


    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Alain Villegas on LinkedIn

    Alain Villegas Email

    ResMan

    Yardi

    Passive Income through Multifamily Real Estate Group on Facebook

    Gary Lipsky on Twitter

    Kyle Mitchell on Facebook
    Garzella Group
    APT Capital Group

    APT Capital Group - YouTube Channel


    Episode #101: From House Hacking to Passive Investor with Kevin Sharkey Jun 01, 2020
    Show notes

    Selling at the bottom of the market in real estate can get you into a lot of trouble, but as long as you have enough reserves to ride things out, you can come out the other end smiling. Today’s guest, Kevin Sharkey, rode out the last downturn and he joins us to talk about house hacking and passive investing in the current one. Kevin is a TV executive who began house hacking in 2003 and is now a partner in two out of state multifamily properties totaling 396 doors. We kick things off chatting to Kevin about his road into real estate beginning when that first value add a property in Philadelphia fell into his lap in 2003. Without knowing what he was getting himself into, Kevin bought a second house hack in Florida at the top of the market in 2006, but he managed to hold onto it right through the downturn. He shares the lessons he learned from this and we talk opportunities for sweeping up deals in downturns and the importance of resisting selling at the bottom of a market. We turn our attention to syndications next and talk to Kevin about what he likes to look for in syndicators and deals before investing, specifically at a time like this. From there, we hear about some hesitations Kevin initially had around passive investing coming from his house hacking background where he was in full control, and how he overcame them. Wrapping up for the day, we talk to Kevin about the value of networking and focus, and what he would have done differently in 2008 if he could wind back the clock. Come along for the ride!


    Key Points From This Episode:

    • An introduction to Kevin’s work in TV and limited partnership investments in multifamily.
    • How Kevin fell into real estate after buying a value add property in Philadelphia in 2003.
    • Kevin’s thankfulness having held onto his Florida property bought at the top of the market.
    • Thoughts from Kevin about opportunities in this downturn having gone through one already.
    • Whether Kevin would buy properties or not if he could go back to 2008.
    • What Kevin wants to see from syndication sponsors in terms of underwriting in recessions.
    • Only joining downturn deals with cash reserves, staggered renovation schedules, and more.
    • Overcoming syndication investing hesitations: relinquishing control and trusting operators.
    • Kevin’s thoughts on his investing plans for the next five years in light of COVID.
    • Our guest’s number one tool that helps his business: networking.
    • The biggest mistake Kevin has made: not buying more properties in the last downturn!


    Tweetables:

    “It’s a scary time but it’s an exciting time because, from a market perspective, it’s a great opportunity to get in on properties and investments because a lot of people are liquidating.” — Kevin Sharkey [0:04:50]

    “Be ready or have reserves, either to get you through something or to capitalize on it.” — Kevin Sharkey [0:06:00]

    “When you’re looking at people that are striving to be the number one highest rent, they are probably the first person to start losing renters because they don’t want to pay the highest end of the rent for their class.” — Kevin Sharkey [0:10:35]


    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Kevin Sharkey Email

    Asset Protection Attorney Wayne Patton

    Passive Income through Multifamily Real Estate Group on Facebook

    APT Capital Group

    APT Capital Group - YouTube Channel

    Kyle Mitchell on Facebook

    Lalita Mitchell on Facebook


    Episode #100: Asset Management with Kenny Wolfe May 29, 2020
    Show notes

    On today’s Friday Edition of The Passive Income Through Multifamily Real Estate podcast, we welcome Kenny Wolfe of Wolfe Investments. Kenny has been investing in multifamily real estate since 2010 and co-founded Wolfe Investments in 2012. He has been involved in over $130MM+ worth of commercial real estate transactions throughout Texas, Colorado, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Ohio and is here today to talk to us about what he has learned, and what he is still yet to discover, about asset management. As COVID-19 pushes the world into using technological tools to survive, the real estate industry is no different. We discuss the shifts happening to move more residents and prospects online, as well as the age-old power of skills such as remaining calm during this time of global uncertainty! Not only do we look at the present, and into the future in this episode, but we also honor the past by reflecting on the biggest lessons and challenges Kenny has faced throughout his 10-year journey in real estate. Take a listen to gain some wisdom from the past as we dive into the future!


    Key Points from This Episode:

    • The top three things Kenny would tell his younger self about asset management.
    • Why asset management is a great business to be in if you’re a people’s person.
    • Kenny’s best partners in asset management today and how he discovered them.
    • The key differences between managing a 50-unit property and a 200-unit property.
    • How Kenny’s biggest success as an asset manager started out with a D-asset.
    • Foundation issues: Kenny shares his hardest lessons learned as an asset manager.
    • Discover how the world of asset managing might look three years from now.
    • How COVID-19 is pushing more residents to online leasing, applications, and tours.
    • The power of remaining calm, approachable, and communicative during this time.


    Tweetables:

    “Asset managing is harder than you think. It’s not some part-time gig everyone’s always talking about.” — Kenny Wolfe [0:01:35]

    “When my gut tells me ‘I can’t breathe,’ I know I’ve got to hire somebody.” — Kenny Wolfe [0:14:43]

    “This is pushing more of our residents and our prospects online.” — Kenny Wolfe [0:06:50]

    “My asset manager superpower is to remain calm.” — Kenny Wolfe [0:08:14]


    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Wolfe Investments

    Wolfe Investments on LinkedIn

    Wolfe Investments on YouTube

    Kenny Wolfe on Facebook

    Rently.com

    APT Capital Group

    APT Capital Group - YouTube Channel


    Episode #99: Maintenance Man to Millionaire with Glenn Gonzales May 25, 2020
    Show notes

    Some people see obstacles as signs to quit what they’re doing while others see these challenges as opportunities for innovation and growth. Today’s guest, Glenn Gonzales, most definitely falls into the latter category and went from being a maintenance man to a millionaire. In this episode, Glenn shares his incredible journey with his. He talks about his transition from maintenance to management as well as the story of buying his first property. Getting started in real estate from the operations side taught Glenn many valuable lessons which he also shares with us. From there, we also discuss how to handle property management. We unpack when it’s best to use third-party management and when to bring it in-house. Glenn also shares some excellent advice on vetting property management companies and ways to ensure they’re doing their job correctly after they’ve been hired. He stresses the importance of managing the management company, which is a hands-on endeavor. Along with this, we learn more about the benefits of in-house property management, Glenn’s biggest real estate investing mistake, and much more. Be sure to tune in today!


    Key Points From This Episode:

    • Learn more about Glenn’s incredible background and his real estate journey so far.
    • How Glenn bought his first apartment building despite not having any money.
    • In-house versus third-party property management: Factors that influence which one to go with.
    • The ideal unit amount to have before bringing property management in-house.
    • Some of the most valuable lessons Glenn learned starting on the property management side.
    • Questions for investors to ask property management companies when entering a market.
    • Benefits Glenn has seen working with two property management companies simultaneously.
    • Be proactive: Why you must get out there to manage the management company.
    • Final four questions with Glenn: His biggest mistake, getting his life to the next level, and more.


    Tweetables:

    “You need to manage the management company.” — Glenn Gonzales [0:19:58]

    “You can’t manage a property or manage a management company from behind the computer monitor or on the telephone.” — Glenn Gonzales [0:21:37]

    “Having the debt and equity lined up is not a good reason to do the deal. We do deals because they give good returns to the investors.” — Glenn Gonzales [0:29:55]


    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Glenn Gonzales on LinkedIn

    Glenn Gonzales’s phone number

    Glenn Gonzales’s email

    Obsidian Capital Co.

    Maintenance Man to Millionaire

    Rod Khleif
    Equity Residential

    Wayne Patton

    Wayne Patton’s phone number

    APT Capital Group

    APT Capital Group - YouTube Channel

    Passive Income Through Multifamily Real Estate Facebook Group

    Free Call with Kyle or Lalita


    Episode #98: Building a Team with Tim Bratz May 22, 2020
    Show notes

    Many business owners would argue that a large part of success comes down to having the right people around you. One such a person is Tim Bratz, the President of Legacy Wealth Holdings, who joins us to talk about hiring the right people to build a strong, committed team. The conversation starts with Tim explaining the need for a Steve Jobs and a Steve Wozniak on your A-team: one who is the visionary and one who is skilled at operations and the more technical aspects of the business. He walks listeners through his thought processes around his first hire, how this person propelled his exponential growth, and why hiring an employee to solve each new obstacle is a bad idea. Tim also shares how they have used the DISC personality assessment to pair the right people with the right roles, the importance of doubling down on your strengths by focusing only on those while delegating everything else, and he gives listeners some insight into how the compensation for their core team members is structured to ensure everyone’s buy-in.


    Key Points From This Episode:

    • Hear about Tim’s transition from real estate broker to owner and his total portfolio value.
    • The requirements of a strong team: having a combination of visionaries and operators.
    • Understanding that growth cannot happen unless you let go of control.
    • Tim’s first-ever hire and how it helped him to triple his income.
    • Falling into the trap of hiring a new employee every time you run into a problem.
    • The numerous difficulties with owning a property management company.
    • Where Tim found the 200 employees who are currently working for him.
    • Staying in your genius self by focusing on your strengths and delegating the rest.
    • How Legacy Wealth Holdings go about finding people with the right character traits for each role.
    • Hear how the compensation is structured so that members remain motivated and committed.
    • Find out what Tim’s assets manager superpower is!


    Tweetables:

    “You need two types of personalities to run a business. One is kind of that visionary, more the CEO mindset, kind of like Steve Jobs. But you need the technical element which is like the Steve Wozniak.” — @TimBratz [0:01:58]

    “What I do know about growth is that it works inversely to control. You have to give up control in order to grow.” — @TimBratz [0:02:26]


    Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

    Tim Bratz on LinkedIn

    Tim Bratz on Instagram

    Tim Bratz on Twitter

    Legacy Wealth Holdings

    Steve Jobs

    Steve Wozniak on Twitter

    Donald Trump

    Barack Obama

    George W. Bush

    DISC Personality Assessment

    Passive Income through Multifamily Real Estate Group on Facebook

    Gary Lipsky on Twitter

    Kyle Mitchell on Facebook

    APT Capital Group

    APT Capital Group - YouTube Channel


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