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# Barely There
[00:00:00] **Jeff:** Hello everybody. This is Overtired. I'm one of your hosts, Jeff severances. Gunzel and I just got outta my prepo shower. And I'm here with Christina Warren and Brett Terpstra. Hello, friends
[00:00:19] **Brett:** I have always said that cleanliness is next to podcast or
[00:00:23] nurse.
[00:00:24] **Jeff:** podcast.
[00:00:26] **Brett:** Yes.
[00:00:26] **Jeff:** Hi,
[00:00:28] **Brett:** Hi
[00:00:28] **Christina:** Hello?
[00:00:31] **Jeff:** wait, Christina, why don't you tell us
[00:00:32] where you are because people
[00:00:34] can't see, but I can tell you're not where you would be
[00:00:36] normally
[00:00:37] **Christina:** yeah. I'm not where I would be normally. So I'm in Atlanta. I'm at my parents house. My mom's birthday is today actually, as we're recording this, so happy, 75th happy 75th birthday mom. Um, very, very, uh, happy to be here with her. So I
[00:00:51] am in, um, the, uh, the bedroom that I stay in when I'm at their house. So I'm basically like in a nice, like, it'd be like, like a nice Airbnb[00:01:00]
[00:01:00] **Jeff:** Mm-hmm nice.
[00:01:01] **Brett:** you are 10 years younger than me, but your parents are the same age as my parents. Did
[00:01:06] they have you really late?
[00:01:08] **Christina:** Yes.
[00:01:09] **Brett:** Is your sister older?
[00:01:11] **Christina:** Yes.
[00:01:12] **Brett:** Okay. So you're, are you the youngest
[00:01:14] **Christina:** I'm the baby. I'm the baby. And she's older. And then my
[00:01:17] parents were, frankly, they were older.
[00:01:18] when they had my sister,
[00:01:20] so
[00:01:20] **Brett:** I mean, my parents were older when they had me. So
[00:01:22] your parents I, I can't do math,
[00:01:25] **Christina:** yeah.
[00:01:26] **Brett:** that's, that's, pretty advanced.
[00:01:28] **Christina:** Yeah.
[00:01:29] **Brett:** All right.
[00:01:30] **Jeff:** Yeah, well, my parents were 24 and it did not work out. something to be said for waiting a bit.
[00:01:41] **Brett:** uh, yeah.
[00:01:44] **Jeff:** here
[00:01:44] **Brett:** I'm the oldest, but my sister's only six years younger than me.
[00:01:48] **Jeff:** Hmm. Are you, so none of you have
[00:01:50] steps or anything like that. You're
[00:01:52] dealing with the, uh, the, original set.
[00:01:54] **Brett:** I
[00:01:54] **Christina:** Aboriginal said OG OG, OG rents,
[00:01:57] **Jeff:** Yep. I just had an [00:02:00] amazing step kid experience where, so my mom was married twice and the second marriage was when I was like, end of junior high, beginning of high school. Um, and I had a stepbrother and a step sister at that time. We didn't get along any of us, but somehow after my parents, after their parents in mind divorced my former stepbrother and I.
[00:02:21] Like inseparable. We started hanging out. He's five years older than me. We started hanging out. We started taking road trips to New York to see bands. We, we started a band, we made an album. We toured together for a couple of years. Like we became completely inseparable. And in the process of that, I became close with his grandparents, which had nothing to do with my family or my step family and his mother who was like kind of vilified in our family wrongly.
[00:02:47] And so I, I sort of built this whole weird, separate family. And about, um, three weeks ago, my brother who lives in Brooklyn, uh, came to town and, and said, Hey, I'm, I'm cleaning out my mom's [00:03:00] garage. Could I get a hand? Could you help me? So I go over there cuz I love his mom and she loves me and I'm sitting there and I'm cleaning.
[00:03:07] My mom's ex-husband's ex-wife's garage and, uh, and, and someone comes by like a neighbor and she's like, oh, have you met my son, Frank? That's my stepbrother, former stepbrother. Then she looks to me to introduce me and, and we both just smile at each other because realize there's like, no name, what she was trying to do was introduce her ex-husband's ex-wife's son.
[00:03:32] Right? Like, there's no name for that. And I just felt like this is exactly what it's like to be a step. Like it's so confusing. It has no fucking rules. Right? Like there's no prediction as to how it's gonna, uh, it's gonna go. Um, so anyway, you pick your family, I guess.
[00:03:47] **Brett:** Yeah, I, I, I have no idea what that's like.
[00:03:50] **Jeff:** Yeah.
[00:03:50] **Christina:** I don't either cuz like my parents have been married for 50 years, but
[00:03:54] um, like
[00:03:55] literally, uh, but like April was, was their 50th wedding anniversary. [00:04:00] But um,
[00:04:01] yeah, but, uh, but I love that. Like you became close with the, with your, your step siblings, like after everything happened, like that's, that's just so fascinating to me.
[00:04:11] Um,
[00:04:12] **Jeff:** weird.
[00:04:13] **Christina:** How did you even stay in touch? Cuz like, this is just me guessing how I would act. I imagine that if I had step siblings and then we didn't get along and then we were no longer related, like by any measure, you know what I mean? Like we had no reason to even have to be around each other. I cannot imagine even like being around the person.
[00:04:32] I, I think that I would just be like, that would be where I would be like, yeah, you know what? I'm just gonna, not ever see this person again.
[00:04:39] **Jeff:** Yeah, well, that is how I think it would normally go because it was my older brother. Who's my stepbrother. Like he lived with us on and off in the five years that our parents were married. Um, but he was just kind of a Dick to me. And he like, he'd like handcuff me to the dog kennel or whatever. It's like total older brother shit.
[00:04:57] But for, for reasons, I don't still [00:05:00] don't fully understand. And he doesn't either. We just tried to revisit this a couple years after the divorce, he invited me out to dinner and do a show and we ended up talking, you know, into the early hours and, and he kind of went, whoa, this little brother of mine's kind of cool.
[00:05:13] And I was like, whoa, this older brother of mine likes me. And, and we just, like, we just started hanging out and we don't really understand why, but I did, I did come to realize recently, um, that, and, and he kind of, I think he basically agrees that this must be it is that we actually didn't know how to say it or feel it exactly.
[00:05:32] But we grieved the loss of that family. Like. We may not have been close, but we were very typical, younger and
[00:05:39] **Christina:** but you were family, right? Like you, yeah. Yeah. Like he, he like, he was a Dick to you, but he was your big brother. He was a Dick that way. And it probably would've been a thing. And again, I'm extrapolating here cause I've never had a brother I've never had steps, but I would imagine that like how he treated you, if he'd been blood related.
[00:05:55] Would've maybe been less annoying to you. You know what I mean? Like you still
[00:05:59] **Jeff:** Yeah. I'm like [00:06:00] who? It's kind of like when you have a step, you don't like, you're like, you're not my fucking dad. It's like you not
[00:06:03] **Christina:** that's what I'm saying. It's like,
[00:06:04] **Jeff:** you're handcuffing me to a dog kennel.
[00:06:06] **Christina:** it's like, it's like, who the fuck are you? You're not my brother. Yeah, exactly. Cause like my sister sucks. I mean, she doesn't, but like when growing up, like she would do like shit to me and, and, and I would do shit to her too, but you know, like she's my sister and I can say she sucks.
[00:06:21] If someone else says she sucks, they're gonna die. Right. Like I'm allowed to talk about it, but no one else can, but I have to imagine that if it was somebody else who like, I had no blood relation with, you know what I mean? Like wasn't born and raised with and they were like that. I'd be like, okay, genuinely who the fuck are you do not handcuff me.
[00:06:38] Right. So. But, but I think you make a good point, which is that like, everybody kind of grieved the loss of like that more familial, like unit and that, that experience. And I'm glad that he was at least able to being older, like take the initiative to reach out and do that and that you guys have a, have a good [00:07:00] relationship.
[00:07:00] **Jeff:** Yeah. Because the only thing we had done prior to that, between the divorce and having dinner and going to a show was he came over before going to Europe and he, and he traded me. He had, he brought all his pat Bena records and he goes, I'll trade you these for your backpack, which was my school backpack.
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