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    Other People’s Money with Max Wiethe

    A finance podcast about investing, markets, and the big things that are affecting my, your, and other people’s money. New episodes weekly with top fund managers, analysts, and business leaders.

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    The Private Credit Boom is Over: Redemption Requests Exceed Liquidity | James Elbaor | Marlton LLC Sep 27, 2026
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    James Elbaor, Founder and Portfolio Manager at Marlton LLC joins OPM to discuss why the private credit boom is officially over. Elbaor explains how artificial intelligence is threatening the SaaS businesses that make up over half a trillion dollars of private credit exposure, while also detailing how liquidity gates are currently trapping investors in massive interval funds like BCRED. The discussion concludes by exploring lucrative upcoming merger opportunities in the public BDC space and analyzing why asset managers utilizing permanent capital vehicles are being rewarded with premium market multiples.


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    JFMW Partners LLC (“Promoter”) is providing this endorsement of, and information related to, the advisory services offered by Namsoft Advisors LLC ("Namsoft"). Promoter is not a current client or investor in any Namsoft advisory account or private fund. Promoter receives cash compensation from Namsoft in the form of a flat referral fee of $750 for each client that engages Namsoft as a result of Promoter's promotional activities. Because Promoter is compensated for this endorsement, a material conflict of interest exists, as Promoter has a financial incentive to promote Namsoft's services to you. This endorsement is delivered as part of a podcast or other audio program produced by Promoter and does not constitute investment advice or a recommendation that any particular advisory arrangement is suitable for you.


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    01:42 Private Credit Redemptions Continue

    07:03 IPO Window Shuts & Credit Fund M&A

    15:28 AI Threat to SaaS Borrowers

    16:51 Sponsor Message Plutus

    18:17 Private Credit vs Private Equity

    24:25 Systemic Risk and Wrappers

    29:15 Public vs Private BDC Gap

    34:46 Why Interval Funds List

    39:44 Alt Managers Valuation Reset

    43:33 Permanent Capital Explained

    50:17 Hedge Funds vs Private Equity

    54:41 Pershing Square Liquidity

    01:04:17 Conclusion


    Energy Shock and Rate Hikes Could Cause a 2022 Style Bear Market | Eric Wallerstein | Clocktower Group Sep 23, 2026
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    Eric Wallerstein, Chief Macro Strategist at Clocktower Group, joins OPM to discuss why he sees substantial risk that the Fed is making a policy mistake by hiking into a supply shock that could cause a 2022 style bear market. He also explores the global coordination of rate hikes and why he believes the participation of lower growth economies like Canada indicate that this is a reaction to higher energy prices and not a substantially higher global neutral rate.


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    JFMW Partners LLC (“Promoter”) is providing this endorsement of, and information related to, the advisory services offered by Namsoft Advisors LLC ("Namsoft"). Promoter is not a current client or investor in any Namsoft advisory account or private fund. Promoter receives cash compensation from Namsoft in the form of a flat referral fee of $750 for each client that engages Namsoft as a result of Promoter's promotional activities. Because Promoter is compensated for this endorsement, a material conflict of interest exists, as Promoter has a financial incentive to promote Namsoft's services to you. This endorsement is delivered as part of a podcast or other audio program produced by Promoter and does not constitute investment advice or a recommendation that any particular advisory arrangement is suitable for you.


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    00:56 Fed Hike and Higher for Longer

    02:30 Oil Driving Global Yields

    05:58 Canada and Global Neutral Rate

    07:14 Energy Crisis and Degrowth Risks

    08:44 Politicized Fed and Credibility

    11:50 Neutral Rate and AI CapEx Boom

    14:47 Inflation Outlook and Policy Mistakes

    17:20 Plutus Sponsor Break

    18:46 Key Data to Watch: Bank Lending

    20:07 Doves vs Hawks and Fiscal Drag

    23:30 2022 Style Bear Market Setup

    25:56 What Could Invalidate the Thesis?

    26:41 BOJ Hike and Yen Intervention

    31:20 Korea Silicon Boom

    35:43 Europe Under Pressure

    39:25 Middle East Outlook

    43:06 Midterm Issues: AI vs. Gas Prices

    48:34 China Oil Strategy

    52:10 Big Calls Wrap


    Outlook on 5 Key Commodities: Metals Bull Market is Just Getting Started (Gold, Copper, & Uranium) | Jérémie Boyer | Aurelion Sep 20, 2026
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    Jérémie Boyer, co-founder of Aurelion Research, joins OPM to give his outlook for 5 key commodities. He explains why after avoiding earlier downside volatility in gold he just got the buy signal he’s been waiting for, and why the longer-term AI driven bull thesis on copper is very real and happening now. He also gives his outlook for uranium, fertilizer, and oil and discusses how he and his partner turn commodity views into a portfolio of equities that is up over 100% since inception a little over 1-year ago.


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    JFMW Partners LLC (“Promoter”) is providing this endorsement of, and information related to, the advisory services offered by Namsoft Advisors LLC ("Namsoft"). Promoter is not a current client or investor in any Namsoft advisory account or private fund. Promoter receives cash compensation from Namsoft in the form of a flat referral fee of $750 for each client that engages Namsoft as a result of Promoter's promotional activities. Because Promoter is compensated for this endorsement, a material conflict of interest exists, as Promoter has a financial incentive to promote Namsoft's services to you. This endorsement is delivered as part of a podcast or other audio program produced by Promoter and does not constitute investment advice or a recommendation that any particular advisory arrangement is suitable for you.


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    02:16 Why Gold Could Hit 5K

    05:45 Geopolitics Over Rates

    09:24 Portfolio Positioning

    12:28 Managing Miner Cycles

    16:26 Plutus

    18:26 Bearish Oil & Fertilizer

    20:28 Oil Thesis & China Inventories

    33:23 Royalties as Exposure

    36:07 Valuing Royalty Companies

    42:48 Why Uranium Now

    46:10 Uranium Contracts & Supply

    51:10 Energy Security and Nuclear Buildout

    54:31 Copper Bull Case in AI Era

    01:00:05 Picking Copper Stocks

    01:06:43 Five Commodities Recap

    01:11:26 Closing and Where to Follow


    Hunting for Value in Mining Stocks Amid Soaring Metals Prices | Freddy Brick | Muddy Waters Capital Sep 13, 2026
    Show notes

    Precious metal and base metal prices have soared as have many mining stocks, but despite this, Freddy Brick, partner at Muddy Waters Capital says that the industry feels closer to left for dead than euphoric. He explains why that setup and the consistency of the mispricing in the sector brought them to launch a fund with the help of mining expert Darren McLean allowing them to take concentrated investments in the assets they think the market is overlooking while running lower net exposure. He also discusses how they think about hedging in the sector, why they take a bottom-up approach to portfolio construction, and how they approach short and long activism in the sector.


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    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    01:28 Approach to Portfolio Construction

    07:56 Fraud Report Origin

    09:35 Block Models Explained

    15:27 Why Juniors Are Distressed

    21:19 Finding Mispriced Projects

    25:12 Venture Like Investing

    28:25 Promoters and Capital Raising

    33:43 Sentiment and Cycles

    38:28 M&A Wave Ahead

    43:27 Trading Vol and Hedging

    46:57 Long Activism Approach

    50:23 Scaling the Strategy

    55:10 When Alpha Shows Up


    The Certainty Premium: What’s Driving the Tech Sector Divergence? | Jeff Keller Aug 31, 2026
    Show notes

    Max Wiethe sits down with Capelight Partners founder Jeff Keller to dissect the massive Q3 technology sector divergence and the rapidly shifting landscape of AI investments. Keller breaks down why the market is rewarding near-term certainty in the tech sector and why he doesn’t like the "blow-off top" comparison between AI and the ARK implosion of 2021. He also gives his outlook for usage-based software vs. application software and explains the east coast vs west coast divide in assessing hyperscaler capex.


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    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    01:13 Tech Sector Divergence

    05:23 Cyber Infra Valuation Risks

    08:09 Why Themes Beat Stock Picking

    12:01 Valuation and Forecast Limits

    17:35 Retail Crowding Warning

    20:15 2021Parallels

    23:33 Rising Rates and Funding the AI Buildout

    27:28 Mag Seven Return Profile Shift

    29:43 CapEx is Existential

    35:17 Meta Breakdown

    39:38 Investor Positioning Themes

    41:34 Long Biased Long Short

    43:55 What Would Break AI?

    46:26 AI Echo Chamber Risk

    49:06 Factor Awareness Extremes

    51:55 Deleveraging July Playbook

    56:58 Year End Watchlist

    58:58 Anthropic IPO and SpaceX Effect

    01:01:06 Conclusion


    Time to Reduce Equity Risk: Why Underappreciated Macro Risks Could Derail the Bull Market | Warren Pies Aug 25, 2026
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    In this episode of "Other People's Money," host Max Wiethe welcomes back Warren Pies, co-founder of 3Fourteen Research, to unpack why macro risks are suddenly taking control of the stock market. Pies explains his tactical decision to downgrade stocks and commodities to neutral, shifting capital into cash as the market enters a historically weak seasonal window between August 15th and October 15th. The conversation dives deep into the Federal Reserve's true reaction function, the mispriced odds of a September rate hike, and the hidden political pressures driving the committee's choices. Furthermore, they discuss the critical data behind the AI build-out, including H200 GPU availability and the potential impact of major lab IPOs like Anthropic on the broader software sector.


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    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    01:21 Why Macro Takes Over

    03:19 Earnings Season Structure

    05:43 Upcoming Macro Catalysts

    08:24 Fed Hike Odds Mispriced

    10:37 Political Pressure on Fed

    15:29 Sponsor Break HFGM

    17:45 Coin Flip Meeting Dynamics

    19:42 Rates Curve and Term Premium

    24:54 How to Position in September

    26:53 Tech Breadth and AI Cracks

    30:17 Lab ARR Reality Check

    34:40 Tech Leadership Needed

    38:17 Data Center ROI Debate

    40:36 Election and Policy Risk

    43:44 AI Issuance Scapegoats

    47:35 Energy as Diversifier

    51:48 Anthropic IPO Impact

    55:01 Software Versus Semis

    58:28 Pair Trades and Correlations

    01:01:19 Fade Macro Risk Playbook

    01:02:55 Conclusion


    Is Private Equity Broken? Why the Buyside’s Problems Are Making 2026 “The Year of the Banker” | High Yield Harry Aug 24, 2026
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    In this episode of Other People's Money, host Max Wiethe sits down with High Yield Harry to examine the major trends in Wall Street compensation and careers, and why 2026 may be the year of the investment banker. Harry shares data from Buy Side Hub to detail buy-side compensation trends, career mobility bottlenecks, and why private equity professionals are resorting to non-recourse loans while waiting on delayed exits. The conversation breaks down the real threat of AI automation on financial modeling and grunt work, emphasizing why finance professionals must develop real-economy operating skills to survive. They also address the surge in private credit redemptions, retail investor panic, and whether buying small businesses is replacing the traditional mega-fund career path.


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    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    00:45 Year of the Banker

    03:38 Private Credit Redemptions

    07:04 Retail Flows and Gating

    10:18 Comp Trends and Hiring

    13:17 Career Pyramid Reality

    15:13 AI Reshapes Analyst Work

    17:16 Big Firms vs Small Shops

    20:27 Operators and Real Economy

    23:56 Agents and Human Edge

    26:39 Who Gets Displaced?

    31:46 Rates and Longer Holds

    37:42 Software Credit Time Bomb

    41:16 Choosing Your Career Track

    47:22 Top Jobs and Trading

    51:56 Closing Takeaways

    54:03 Banking Cycles and Layoffs

    57:03 Conclusion


    Ex-Goya COO on the $1.4 Trillion Family Business Opportunity in Three Consumer Sectors | Andy Unanue Aug 13, 2026
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    Andy Unanue, Founder and Managing Partner of AUA Private Equity Partners and former COO of Goya Foods breaks down the trillion-dollar opportunity in US food, beverage, and pet wellness family businesses. Andy shares how his experience in a family-run business shaped his firm's strategy of partnering with lower-middle-market, family-run companies across those sectors and explains how AUA unlocks 15% to 30% operational efficiencies. The discussion dives into major consumer trends, including the humanization of pets, the rise of ethnic food markets, and the impact of GLP-1 drugs on snacking habits. Finally, Andy offers actionable advice on navigating generational wealth transfers, building positive workplace cultures, and transitioning family enterprises for long-term success.


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    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    00:51 Goya Roots to PE

    02:48 Market Size Focus

    04:21 Operational Playbook

    07:26 Exit Paths for Families

    09:34 PE Exits and Buyers

    13:18 Leaving Upside for the Next Buyer

    16:17 Macro Trends Tailwinds

    21:22 Beverage Bets and Risk

    28:29 Authenticity Wins Consumers

    31:41 Marketing and Internet Shift

    36:10 Deal Sourcing and Moats

    39:08 Co-Manufacturing Advantage

    41:14 Regional Brands and Add Ons

    44:56 Manufacturing Renaissance

    53:34 Wealth Transfer and Family Offices

    58:58 AUA Future and Wrap Up


    Luke Gromen: Yield Curve Control is the Only Way to Stop a Global Bond Crisis Jul 28, 2026
    Show notes

    Learn more about the Fundrise Income Fund here: https://Fundrise.com/mm


    Luke Gromen, founder of Forest for the Trees, sites down with Max Wiethe to dissect the escalating crisis in the global bond market. Gromen argues that off-balance sheet liabilities, such as baby boomer retirements and surging veterans' benefits, are colliding with massive defense spending to force a dangerous inflationary spiral. He unpacks how "defense stimmies" from nations like Japan and Germany are turning historical creditors into aggressive bond sellers, putting immense pressure on yields. Throughout the conversation, Gromen also issues a stark warning about the AI tech bubble, the incoming policies of new Fed Chair Kevin Warsh, and why China's massive gold accumulation is a major red flag for the US dollar.


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    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    00:52 Bond Selloff Explained

    04:54 Debt Spiral Mechanics

    08:22 Global Defense Stimulus

    09:58 Real Yields Reality Check

    13:20 Fed Chair Fantasy

    15:34 Sponsor Break Fundrise

    16:57 AI Trade Meets China

    20:52 Labor Data Warning

    23:02 AI Backstop Coming

    26:28 No Long Bond Floor

    30:44 Gold Revaluation Debate

    35:27 China Gold Buying Surge

    36:31 Oil Reserves And Leverage

    39:19 Pain Contest with The West

    43:22 Inequality and Instability

    47:18 Dollar Down Yield Trap

    50:03 Buy the Dip

    52:12 Gold Targets and Gradualism

    54:50 Bitcoin Lags Tech Risk

    58:47 Warsh Fed No Good Options

    01:02:55 What Breaks First?

    01:05:33 Bonds Are the Biggest Bubble


    Interest Rates to 10%: Why the Treasury Market is the Real Speculative Bubble (Not AI) | Russell Clark Jul 22, 2026
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    Free E-book from Teucrium: https://insights.teucrium.com/why-investors-turning-to-commodity-etfs


    In this episode of Other People's Money, Max Wiethe sits down with hedge fund manager Russell Clark to discuss why he believes the U.S. Treasury market is a much larger and more dangerous speculative bubble than AI. Clark details his macroeconomic outlook, arguing that a shifting political landscape focused on 7% wage growth and lower living costs will eventually push the 10-year Treasury yield up to an astonishing 10%. To stabilize affordability for younger generations, he predicts real estate will remain flat nominally while heavily declining in real terms. Clark also breaks down the massive capital expenditures in AI, viewing them as defensive strategies by legacy tech giants to protect their moats rather than mere speculation. Finally, Clark also warns about sectors reliant on low rates and the severe illiquidity and mispriced risks currently lurking within the private credit and private equity markets.


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    SOYB Fund Page & Prospectus: www.teucrium.com/soyb


    Investing in SOYB involves risk, including the possible loss of principal. Commodity investments are subject to significant volatility.


    Past performance is not indicative of future results. Investors should carefully consider the investment objectives, risks, charges, and expenses of the Teucrium Soybean Fund before investing. The prospectus contains this and other important information about the Fund.


    This material must be proceeded or accompanied by the prospectus. The prospectus is available atteucrium.com/soyb.


    Marketing Agent: PINE Distributors LLC.


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    01:38 Why Treasuries Look Risky

    04:33 Foreign Reserves Shift from Gold to Bonds

    08:59 Politics Turns Inflationary

    14:12 Japan Leads

    16:09 Wage Inflation Drives Yields

    20:37 Sponsor Break SOYB

    21:58 High Real Rates New Normal

    26:14 Trading Long View vs Noise

    29:09 Housing Tug of War

    34:02 Politics Converge Anyway

    36:03 Chips Are New Oil

    38:38 Is AI a Bubble?

    44:12 AI and Wage Politics

    50:37 Strategic AI Spending

    54:17 Leverage Unwind Risks

    59:29 Private Credit Red Flags

    01:04:13 Wrap Up and Links


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