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    Operators

    In the world of ecommerce, a legendary text group is rumored to hold the secrets to unimaginable success. The catch? You must have nine figures in revenue to gain entry. The world’s biggest brands have denied its existence for years, until now. Four titans known as the “Operators” are leaking the secret contents in an effort to share its wealth of knowledge with people like you. Sean Frank (CEO, Ridge), Jason Panzer (President, HexClad), Mike Beckham (CEO, Simple Modern) & Matt Bertulli (Founder, Pela Case x Lomi).

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    E144: Do smaller teams = bigger wins? Dec 17, 2025
    Show notes

    The operators discuss the critical balance between executing a high-stakes Q4 and planning for the upcoming fiscal year. They debate structured versus unstructured planning methodologies, with Sean and Matt favoring quarterly rocks and 18-month outlooks, while Jason relies on continuous, fluid strategic discussions driven by financial models. The conversation covers the specific role of the CEO during peak season, moving from the field to the budget office, and how to identify non-obvious growth levers like sweepstakes or wholesale expansion to diversify revenue. Finally, they compare internal communication frameworks, specifically contrasting Ridge's unique company-wide daily standups with more traditional departmental leadership cadences.


    Chapters:

    00:00:00 - Introduction

    00:02:17 - Managing Q4 Anxiety

    00:16:05 - Annual Planning Timelines

    00:27:12 - Prioritizing Strategic Bets

    00:38:09 - Choosing Growth Levers

    00:52:34 - Meeting Rhythms & Standups


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    E143: Q4 Sales Are Wild! Dec 10, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode the operators break down their actual results from Black Friday and Cyber Monday, analyzing why some brands experienced record growth while others saw shifts in consumer behavior between the US and Canadian markets. They debate critical holiday strategies, such as the benefits of starting sales early versus maximizing profit during high-intent windows, and explore the theory that inflation is driving consumers back toward durable goods over expensive experiences. The discussion also covers the increasing reliance on "Buy Now, Pay Later" services, the potential risks of mounting consumer debt, and essential tactics for managing post-holiday returns and preventing e-commerce fraud.


    Chapters:

    00:00:00 - Introduction

    00:02:35 - BFCM Recap

    00:18:36 - Regional Sales Trends

    00:30:52 - Inflation's Impact

    00:40:39 - Buy Now Pay Later

    00:53:45 - Returns Management


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    Northbeam.

    https://www.northbeam.io/


    Postscript.

    https://postscript.io/


    Richpanel.

    https://www.richpanel.com/?utm_source=9O&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ytdesc


    Saras.

    https://bit.ly/9OP-Ytdesc


    Subscribe to The Marketing Operators Podcast here:

    https://www.youtube.com/@MarketingOperators


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    E142: Hedge Your Ad Spend Dec 03, 2025
    Show notes

    The operators talk about the complexities of channel expansion, debating the strategic trade-offs between doubling down on digital ads versus pushing into physical retail. They discuss how pricing power acts as a form of marketing and why a $30 customer acquisition cost is becoming the floor for most brands. The conversation also explores the nuances of brand versus performance marketing, the hidden risks of international expansion into Europe compared to the US market, and how AI is reshaping creative production while potentially accelerating "peak screen time" and changing consumer behavior.


    Chapters:

    00:00:00 - Introduction

    00:02:28 - Channel Expansion Strategy

    00:22:51 - Measuring Marketing ROI

    00:42:22 - Managing Complexity in Channel Expansion

    00:55:02 - The $30 CAC Floor

    01:09:37 - AI's Impact on Brand Authenticity


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    Fulfil.io.

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    Northbeam.

    https://www.northbeam.io/


    Richpanel.

    https://www.richpanel.com/?utm_source=9O&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ytdesc


    Saras.

    https://bit.ly/9OP-Ytdesc


    Rivo.

    https://www.rivo.io/operators


    Subscribe to The Marketing Operators Podcast here:

    https://www.youtube.com/@MarketingOperators


    Subscribe to The Finance Operators here:

    https://www.youtube.com/@FinanceOperatorsFOPS


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    https://9operators.com/


    E141: Cash Flow Keeps Us Rich Nov 26, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode, the operators discuss the financial realities of scaling an e-commerce brand, discussing the discipline required to manage cash flow and the strategic decision-making behind reinvesting profits versus taking distributions. They explore the critical timeline for when a business can realistically generate free cash flow, debating the merits of allocating capital toward inventory, product development or team expansion. The conversation also covers advanced financial strategies like dividend recaps, the "Rule of 40" for measuring growth against profitability, and personal approaches to managing wealth and generational assets once liquidity is achieved.


    Chapters:

    00:00:00 - Introduction

    00:02:48 - Managing Cash Flow and Reinvesting for Growth

    00:25:53 - Using Debt and Dividend Recaps for Liquidity

    00:39:31 - Determining Cash Targets and EBITDA Margins

    00:53:18 - Managing Personal Wealth and Generational Assets

    01:05:30 - Understanding the Rule of 40 and P&L Mechanics


    Powered By:

    Fulfil.io.

    https://bit.ly/3pAp2vu

    The Only Cloud ERP Designed to Efficiently Scale 8 and 9-Figure Brands.


    Northbeam.

    https://www.northbeam.io/


    Postscript.

    https://postscript.io/


    Richpanel.

    https://www.richpanel.com/?utm_source=9O&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ytdesc


    Saras.

    https://bit.ly/9OP-Ytdesc


    Subscribe to The Marketing Operators Podcast here:

    https://www.youtube.com/@MarketingOperators


    Subscribe to The Finance Operators here:

    https://www.youtube.com/@FinanceOperatorsFOPS


    Sign up to the 9 Operators newsletter here:

    https://9operators.com/


    E140: Black Friday Just Got Wild Nov 19, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode, the operators dive deep into the current holiday shopping landscape, analyzing Black Friday Cyber Monday strategies and the shifting behavior of consumers in a soft economy. They debate the merits of starting sales early versus waiting for the "Cyber Five," discuss the complexities of inventory management, and share insights on forecasting growth for 2025 and 2026.

    The conversation also explores the difference between "sexy" trend-based growth and durable long-term success, using case studies like Nike and On Running, before concluding with a candid discussion on the role of the CEO in prioritizing company initiatives and making high-leverage decisions


    Chapters:

    00:00:00 - Introduction

    00:03:34 - Holiday Discounting & Consumer Sentiment

    00:18:16 - Early Sales vs. Cyber Five Strategies

    00:30:00 - Forecasting & Growth Targets

    00:42:38 - Durable vs. "Sexy" Growth

    00:54:53 - The CEO's Role & Priorities


    Powered By:

    Fulfil.io.

    https://bit.ly/3pAp2vu

    The Only Cloud ERP Designed to Efficiently Scale 8 and 9-Figure Brands.


    Northbeam.

    https://www.northbeam.io/


    Richpanel.

    https://www.richpanel.com/?utm_source=9O&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ytdesc


    Saras.

    https://bit.ly/9OP-Ytdesc


    Rivo.

    https://www.rivo.io/operators


    Subscribe to The Marketing Operators Podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/@MarketingOperators


    Subscribe to The Finance Operators here: https://www.youtube.com/@FinanceOperatorsFOPS


    Sign up to the 9 Operators newsletter here: https://9operators.com/


    E139: The future is members only fashion brands. Nov 12, 2025
    Show notes

    Jon Buscemi joins the podcast to discuss his journey from trend forecasting at DC Shoes to founding his iconic luxury sneaker brand. He shares the inside story of selling his brand to private equity and how their strategy to create an attainable luxury diffusion line was the "kiss of death", violating the rules of luxury pricing. Buscemi argues that fashion's monoculture is dead, replaced by micro-communities, and that social media has killed the discovery aspect of fashion. He details how his new members-only golf brand Redan, is built on scarcity and community, predicting that this "members-only" model is the future trend for fashion.


    Chapters:

    00:00:00 - Introduction

    00:03:31 - The $1000 Sneaker

    00:18:00 - From DC Shoes to Tribal Fashion Trends

    00:33:17 - Selling to Private Equity

    00:45:14 - Networking, Signaling, & The "Members-Only" Brand

    00:59:11 - Can a Monoculture Brand Still Be Built Today?


    Powered By:

    Fulfil.io.

    https://bit.ly/3pAp2vu

    The Only Cloud ERP Designed to Efficiently Scale 8 and 9-Figure Brands.


    Northbeam.

    https://www.northbeam.io/


    Postscript.

    https://postscript.io/


    Richpanel.

    https://www.richpanel.com/?utm_source=9O&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ytdesc


    Saras.

    https://bit.ly/9OP-Ytdesc


    Subscribe to The Marketing Operators Podcast here:

    https://www.youtube.com/@MarketingOperators


    Subscribe to The Finance Operators here:

    https://www.youtube.com/@FinanceOperatorsFOPS


    Sign up to the 9 Operators newsletter here: https://9operators.com/


    E138: Why Winners Go Broke Nov 05, 2025
    Show notes

    Cash is king, period. In this episode, the operators get real about why cash flow matters more than your P&L, EBITDA, or vanity revenue numbers. They share their worst "cash crunch" war stories, like pushing payroll or having to choose between buying inventory and paying taxes. To prove a hard lesson: even profitable businesses go bankrupt all the time. You'll learn the backward-sounding truth of e-commerce: rapid growth bleeds cash, while slowing down can actually fill your bank account. They get into the weeds on risky trend-based inventory, and how to get your suppliers to finance your growth by trading margin for better terms. They also cover the real cost of equity (why you should probably just take the money) and why you need a serious finance team and audits long before you ever think about selling.


    Chapters:

    00:00:00 - Introduction

    00:03:07 - Worst Cash Crunch Moments

    00:18:26 - How Growth & Inventory Type Affect Cash Flow

    00:34:50 - Tactical Ways to Protect Cash

    00:46:26 - The Truth About Equity Financing

    01:03:27 - Partnership, Paranoia, and Playing the Leverage Game


    Powered By:

    Fulfil.io.

    https://bit.ly/3pAp2vu

    The Only Cloud ERP Designed to Efficiently Scale 8 and 9-Figure Brands.


    Northbeam.

    https://www.northbeam.io/


    Richpanel.

    https://www.richpanel.com/?utm_source=9O&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ytdesc


    Saras.

    https://bit.ly/9OP-Ytdesc


    Rivo.

    https://www.rivo.io/operators


    Subscribe to The Marketing Operators Podcast here:

    https://www.youtube.com/@MarketingOperators


    Subscribe to The Finance Operators here:

    https://www.youtube.com/@FinanceOperatorsFOPS


    Sign up to the 9 Operators newsletter here:

    https://9operators.com/


    Operators Titans E006: MAËLYS (With Co-Founder & CMO Yariv Citron) Oct 30, 2025
    Show notes

    Join hosts Matt Bertulli and Jason Panzer to experience the journey of Yariv Citron, Co-Founder & CMO of MAËLYS. After leaving law school, Yariv faced the crushing decision to shut down his first business. Yet, he emerged resilient, venturing into the fiercely competitive beauty industry with a bold vision to “break the feed” and redefine body care.

    Born from a hero product, the Booty Lift and Firm Mask, Yariv and his co-founders took a daring leap, securing personal loans to fund their dream and launch MAËLYS with a mega-influencer campaign centered on Khloe Kardashian. This bold move not only expanded their audience but also solidified MAËLYS as a brand that challenges norms and empowers women with innovative, clinically proven solutions.

    Today, the company is on track to achieve $150-200 million in annual revenue while maintaining profitability. Discover how personal setbacks became the foundation for extraordinary success, and learn the tactics behind MAËLYS’ rapid growth. This episode is essential listening for anyone looking to understand the grit, innovation, and determination required to build a disruptive brand.

    Operators Titans is brought to you by AppLovin.
    Get access to the Operators channel expansion playbook, online masterclass, and up to $5k in ad credits here: https://www.9operators.com/paid-growth. Or launch your ads today with our exclusive link: https://applovin.com/9operators.


    E137: Wholesale has the potential to ruin your business Oct 29, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode, the Operators dive deep into omnichannel strategy, starting with the lingering debate: should your brand be on Amazon? The hosts break down the pros of incrementality and meeting customers where they are. Versus the cons of price wars, channel conflict, and the platform's brand-unfriendly nature.

    The discussion then shifts to the high-stakes game of wholesale, weighing the relative safety of the "Big Three" (Costco, Target, Walmart) against the serious financial risks of smaller retailers going bankrupt.

    Finally, the squad debates the ultimate omnichannel play: opening your own physical stores. They explore the potential for unique customer experiences and domestic supply chain advantages versus the immense complexity, high costs, and low success rate for digitally-native brands.


    Chapters:

    00:00:00 - Introduction

    00:16:55 - "Is it Good For My Brand?" Amazon Debate

    00:33:30 - The Risks of Wholesale

    00:43:45 - Is Being in Big Stores Worth It?

    00:56:51 - The Case for Owned Retail


    Powered By:


    Fulfil.io.

    https://bit.ly/3pAp2vuThe Only Cloud ERP Designed to Efficiently Scale 8 and 9-Figure Brands.


    Northbeam.

    https://www.northbeam.io/


    Postscript.

    https://postscript.io/


    Richpanel.

    https://www.richpanel.com/?utm_source=9O&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ytdesc


    Saras.

    https://bit.ly/9OP-Ytdesc



    Subscribe to The Marketing Operators Podcast here:

    https://www.youtube.com/@MarketingOperators


    Subscribe to The Finance Operators here:

    https://www.youtube.com/@FinanceOperatorsFOPS


    Sign up to the 9 Operators newsletter here:

    https://9operators.com/


    Operators Titans E005: Peak 21 (with President Roman Khan) Oct 23, 2025
    Show notes

    Founder anxiety. Sleepless nights. Standing on the brink of bankruptcy. Anyone who’s put their own chip on the table knows just how painful leading a brand can be. What if it wasn’t just one brand, but a portfolio of companies?

    Join hosts Matthew Bertulli and Jason Panzer as they explore Roman Khan’s journey from staring into the abyss to building a holdco of multiple +$100M brands as the president of Peak 21.

    Discover the challenges + triumphs of entrepreneurship, the importance of distribution over product, and Roman’s unique approach to scaling brands like Raycon, Linjer, Nutrition Kitchen, and more. Whether you’re an aspiring entrepreneur or a seasoned business leader, this episode is packed with valuable lessons and brutally honest inspiration.

    Operators Titans is brought to you by AppLovin.
    Get access to the Operators channel expansion playbook, online masterclass, and up to $5k in ad credits here: https://www.9operators.com/paid-growth. Or launch your ads today with our exclusive link: https://applovin.com/9operators.


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