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    Older & Wilder

    Funny, honest, easy to listen to – we are often described as, “like listening to your best friends have a conversation at dinner.”

    This is Joy and Claire is an evolution of the weekly podcast Girls Gone WOD, which we created back in June 2013. Since then we have released over 400 weekly episodes and bonus features, and created an amazing community of supportive listeners around the world.

    We are so excited to bring years of podcasting experience to this new project, with honesty, humor, and insights on everything from mental health, wellness, marriage, and parenting, to all the other random things that you’d talk to your friends about. Subscribe now and join the conversation!

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    Maryland Celebrations Jun 19, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode of 'Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire,' the hosts discuss their exciting travel experiences, including an upcoming sold-out trip to Peru and memorable past trips to Ireland, Costa Rica, and Iceland. They also delve into the personal and emotional journey of Joy's brother, a military officer, who has transitioned out of his flight command role. The conversation touches on the reality of military life, the sacrifices made by service members, and the perspectives gained from these experiences. Additionally, the hosts recount personal anecdotes about family gatherings and surprising moments of political awareness. The episode ends with a reminder for listeners to join the waitlist for the Peru trip.


    00:17 Excitement About the Peru Trip

    00:55 Memories from Past Trips

    05:11 Travel Fears and Overcoming Them

    08:41 Military Life and Family

    19:12 Brother's Military Ceremony

    24:52 Family Time and Mom's Recovery

    25:32 Graduation and Career Moves

    27:20 Military Life and Sacrifices

    27:55 Travel Challenges and Social Gatherings

    29:58 Father's Day and Ice Cream

    32:30 First Class Allergy Scare

    44:36 Political Encounters and Car Choices

    49:10 Boat Ride with a Twist

    50:43 Final Thoughts and Farewell


    Dr. Kayla Cook Answers Your Questions Jun 12, 2025
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    Reminder! PERU REGISTRATION IS LIVE JUNE 13TH 2025

    Dr. Kayla Cook returns to the show to answer your health questions! We talk about birth control, whether you can actually ruin your metabolism, and how to better understand your body in midlife. It’s an honest, insightful convo you won’t want to miss.


    Pets, Protein, and Peru Adventures Jun 05, 2025
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    In this episode of 'Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire,' Joy and Claire discuss a wide range of topics and chat about their travel routines, highlighting staying hydrated, maintaining regular sleep schedules, and the importance of movement. The hosts also touch on the benefits of specific hair and skincare products, summer camp logistics for Claire's kids, and the nuances of macro tracking for protein and fiber. Excitingly, they announce an upcoming group trip to Peru in April 2026, discussing the itinerary, costs, and registration process!


    00:52 Funny Pet Names and Stories

    03:00 Dog Breeds and Behaviors

    09:59 Summer Camp Struggles

    14:01 New Car and Tesla Discussion

    17:09 Karate and Black Belt Perks

    23:21 Fitness and Nutrition Goals

    24:23 Protein and Fiber Goals

    26:16 Tracking Macros and Dieting

    32:46 Reflecting on Past Diet Trends

    37:39 The Impact of Stress on Health

    45:30 Travel Tips and Summer Products

    50:06 Exciting Announcement: Peru Trip 2026


    The Path to Black Belt! May 29, 2025
    Show notes

    Memorial Day Reflections and Family Moments


    In this episode of the Older and Wilder podcast, Joy and Claire reminisce about Joy's past Memorial Day challenges, including participating in the Boulder Boulder 10K and the intense Murph workout ON THE SAME DAY. Claire shares a touching experience celebrating her dad's 80th birthday, full of family speeches and memories. They both discuss the significance of caretaking, as Joy recounts her experience supporting her mom through surgery and recovery. Claire updates listeners on her recent black belt test in karate, highlighting her son's growth and achievement. The episode wraps up with hints about a potential future travel adventure to Peru!!


    00:00 Introduction and Memorial Day Memories

    00:37 Explaining the Boulder Bolder and Murph

    01:02 Family and Birthday Celebrations

    05:20 Reflecting on Dad's Life and Achievements

    13:29 Karate Black Belt Test Experience

    29:06 Mountain Biking and Mom's Surgery Update

    34:38 Post-Surgery Struggles and Nausea

    35:54 The Car Ride Home

    39:03 Settling Back at Home

    41:23 The Role of Caretaking

    46:38 Reflections on Parenthood and Caretaking

    51:10 Surgery and Recovery Insights

    01:00:55 Travel Plans and Wrap-Up


    Black Belt Weekend and Caretaking Adventures May 22, 2025
    Show notes

    In this episode of 'Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire,' the conversation delves into the cultural phenomenon of reality TV, including MomTok and 'The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Claire talks about the upcoming black belt weekend and John Hay's 80th birthday. We touch upon financial wellness and getting help from a financial advisor when things feel overwhelming.


    00:00 Introduction and Welcome

    00:14 Dealing with Illness and Medications

    00:45 Travel Stories and Concerts

    05:27 Social Media and Celebrity Gossip

    14:02 Travel Mishaps and Shopping

    19:19 Reality TV and Drama

    27:42 Family Acceptance and Cultural Moments

    28:17 Mother's Knee Replacement Surgery Plans

    29:03 Caretaking Challenges and Family Dynamics

    32:02 Past Medical Experiences and Concerns

    35:19 Managing Aging Parents

    43:40 Financial Health and Retirement Planning

    48:07 Final Thoughts and Farewells


    A Whirlwind Disney Adventure May 15, 2025
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    In this episode, Claire recounts her recent surprise Disney World trip with her family, where they navigated various Disney parks, met beloved characters, and created unforgettable memories. Highlights include Claire's strategic use of Lightning Lanes, the magical experiences of her children, Evie's enchanting encounters with princesses, and Miles' initial reluctance that turns into joy upon discovering Galaxy's Edge. Joy shares an interesting encounter with Haynes, Claire’s new dog, and an intuitive feeling about the dog's need for a defined role and purpose. The episode wraps up with upcoming plans and a sneak peek into guests and topics for future episodes.


    01:55 Surprise Disney Trip Reveal

    04:55 First Impressions and Disney Springs

    08:16 Magic Kingdom Adventures

    13:47 Meeting the Princesses

    18:52 Galaxy's Edge and Hollywood Studios

    22:48 Reflections and Favorite Rides

    27:46 Immersive Experiences at Casa Bonita

    28:40 The Magic of Disney Merchandise

    29:56 Disneyland Tips and Tricks

    38:43 Disneyland vs. Disney World

    43:37 The Story of Haynes the Dog

    52:36 Upcoming Guests and Events


    Unpacking Wellness Trends and Health Norms with Laura Ligos May 08, 2025
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    Navigating Women's Health: Rants, Reality Checks, and Reliable Advice with Laura Ligos, the Sassy Dietitian


    In this episode of 'Older and Wilder,' hosts Joy and Claire welcome back Laura Ligos, the Sassy Dietitan, to discuss the complexities of diet culture, the importance of advocating for women’s health, and the necessity of realistic health advice. Laura shares insights on the current state of social media's influence on fitness and health, debunks myths about supplements, and offers practical tips for navigating medical appointments. The trio also explores the controversial topic of weight loss injectables like Ozempic and emphasizes the need for collaborative care in healthcare practice. With a blend of humor and expertise, this episode provides valuable perspectives for anyone invested in women's health and wellness.


    00:00 Technical Difficulties and Introductions

    00:46 Welcoming Laura Legos: The Sassy Dietician

    01:53 Diet Culture and Social Media Pressures

    05:02 The Struggles of Women's Health Advocacy

    11:23 Navigating Midlife Health Challenges

    14:33 The Gender Disparity in Medical Treatment

    22:25 The Importance of Self-Advocacy in Healthcare

    27:10 The Vitamin D Dilemma

    28:35 Navigating the Healthcare System

    29:29 The Role of Functional Health Services

    32:15 The Ozempic Debate

    39:40 Supplements and Dietary Gaps

    46:11 Parenting and Nutrition Challenges

    52:24 Collaborative Healthcare

    55:42 Conclusion and Contact Information


    Skincare Made Simple with Gina Kaufman Apr 30, 2025
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    SOLSTIC MED SPA GINA KAUFMAN


    The Ultimate Guide to Skincare and Non-Surgical Aesthetics with Gina Kaufman


    In this episode of 'Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire,' the hosts welcome Gina Kaufman from Solstice Med Spa to discuss all things skincare and non-surgical aesthetic procedures. They cover Gina's background, her transition from acute care to running a med spa, and the essentials of an effective skincare routine. Gina provides insights on popular procedures like Botox, fillers, and microneedling, emphasizing the importance of finding a qualified practitioner. She also explains the impact of various skincare products, highlighting the crucial roles of vitamin A, vitamin C, and niacinamide, as well as the importance of using the right sunscreen. The conversation delves into the expectations and realistic outcomes of different treatments, aiming to educate listeners on making informed decisions about their skincare and aesthetic needs.


    01:14 Welcoming the Guest: Gina Kaufman

    02:38 Diving into Skincare

    05:52 Understanding Botox and Fillers

    07:56 Finding a Trusted Practitioner

    13:02 Realistic Expectations in Aesthetics

    20:55 Overrated Procedures and Skincare Myths

    25:41 The Dangers of Liquid Rhinoplasty

    26:13 Risks of Under Eye Fillers

    26:54 Finding the Safest Filler Locations

    28:00 Effective Skincare Essentials

    30:01 Top Skincare Ingredients: Vitamin A, C, and Niacinamide

    32:11 The Importance of Medical Grade Skincare

    41:26 Microneedling and Collagen Maintenance

    44:03 Addressing Aging Concerns: Neck and Facelift Options

    49:31 Final Thoughts and Contact Information


    Dr. Kayla Cook Returns to Talk About Midlife Health Apr 24, 2025
    Show notes

    Navigating Midlife Health: A Conversation with Dr. Kayla Cook


    In this episode of 'Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire,' hosts Joy and Claire welcome back Dr. Kayla Cook, a naturopathic doctor, to discuss health and wellness in midlife. Dr. Cook, who previously helped Joy with Graves Disease, talks about the common health concerns women face as they enter midlife. The conversation covers the differences between naturopathic and traditional Western medicine, the importance of mindset and the nervous system, and practical advice for maintaining health. Highlights include discussions on the role of blood sugar regulation, the benefits of physical movement post-meals, and the potential impact of alcohol on midlife health. Dr. Cook also shares valuable resources and techniques like EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) for managing emotional and psychological well-being.


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    00:24 Reintroducing Dr. Kayla Cook

    02:27 Understanding Naturopathic Medicine

    05:12 Debunking Health Myths

    12:34 Midlife Health Concerns

    17:06 The Importance of Mindset and Nervous System

    23:02 Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT)

    31:37 The Midlife Unveiling: Embracing Change and Growth

    32:37 Dreams and Coping Mechanisms: A Shared Experience

    33:33 The Epiphany of Midlife: Listening to Your Body

    37:09 Diet and Lifestyle: Building Muscle and Regulating Blood Sugar

    38:38 The Impact of Alcohol: Personal Experiences and Advice

    42:36 Blood Sugar Regulation: Practical Tips and Tricks

    48:20 Movement and Muscle: Key to Longevity

    49:11 Apple Cider Vinegar: A Surprising Ally


    Rethinking Our Dreams Apr 17, 2025
    Show notes

    Life's Journey, Passions, and Unexpected Turns


    In this episode of Older and Wilder with Joy and Claire, the conversation kicks off with light-hearted banter. Discussions transition to personal stories, including house renovations, unique job projects, and the complexities of navigating home improvements with partners. The hosts delve into profound topics such as the effects of following one’s passion, the significance of finding fulfillment outside work, and personal experiences around health and surgeries. They wrap up with highlights about current events and anecdotes that capture the bizarre quirks of modern life. The episode underscores the importance of the journey over the destination, finding a balance between work and personal passions, and the evolving concepts of happiness and success.


    02:21 Weekly Updates and Home Projects

    07:42 House Renovations and Market Changes

    14:24 Family Health and Medical Procedures

    18:27 Parenting and Communication Dynamics

    24:35 Communication Frustrations

    25:27 Hospital Stays and Surgeries

    28:25 The Myth of Following Your Passion

    36:23 Balancing Passion and Practicality

    48:24 What a Time to Be Alive

    52:40 Conclusion and Farewell


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