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The Bizarre Mating Calls of Heterosexuals feat. Ella Cerón Aug 17, 2023

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On this episode, I am joined by romantic comedy scholar Ella Cerón, who is also the author of the excellent coming-of-age YA novel Viva Lola Espinoza. We talked about rom-coms and their tropes, especially focusing on Pride & Prejudice (2005) and Fire Island. Ella also recommends a bunch of her favorite romantic comedies, explains who Mr. Wickham is and why he’s an example of an important archetype, caramel Frappuccinos on Christmas, and much more. Come for the deep dive, stay for the stray meows from Ella's cat, Olive.

Buy Ella’s book ASAP: Viva Lola Espinoza. And follow her on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok.

Things we talked about:

Almost Famous
The Wedding Planner
Hitch
How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days
Almost Famous
To All the Boys I’ve Loved Before
Viva Lola Espinoza
Manhunt by Gretchen Felker-Martin

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This episode was produced by Sally and Ella and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

Astrology, Planetary Transits, and Related Memes feat. Jeanna Kadlec May 25, 2023

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On this episode, I am joined by writer, astrologer, and teacher, Jeanna Kadlec, author of Heretic: A Memoir. We talked about Kadlec’s excellent book and how it braids her astute analysis and cultural history with her own memoir. Then we got deep into astrology and how it can inform how we see and understand what’s going on in our lives on both small and large scales. If you are interested in understanding astrology more, this episode is for you!

Buy Jeanna’s book ASAP, it’s so good: Heretic: A Memoir! And follow her on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok

Things we talked about:

Virology by Joseph Osmundson
The work of author Melissa Febos
Astrologer on instagram Diana Rose Harper
Sam Reynolds on Talking Astrology with Bill Nye
Stargazing on TLC
Astro Twins
Written in the Stars astrological dating show
Queer Cosmos: The Astrology of Queer Identities & Relationships by Colin Bedell
Breach (2007)
¡Viva Lola Espinoza! by Ella Cerón
The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms by N. K. Jemisin

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This episode was produced by Sally and Jeanna and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

Flawed Queers on Screen feat. Aubrey Gordon May 04, 2023

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On this episode, I am joined by noted Cate Blanchett enthusiast and Scorpio, Aubrey Gordon (@yrfatfriend) who you know from the excellent podcast Maintenance Phase. We talked about (and spoiled btw) the movie Tár. We talked about queer anti-heroes/villains, what this movie says (if anything) about cancel culture, whether this is a horror movie, and a lot more.

Buy Aubrey’s books on Bookshop.

Things we talked about:

Imitation of Life
Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Michael Clayton
Carol
The Worst Idea of All Time podcast
The Best Idea of All Time podcast
“‘Tár,’ Reviewed: Regressive Ideas to Match Regressive Aesthetics” by Richard Brody for The New Yorker
“Tár is actually a horror movie” by Martin Millman for Collider
Thread from r/blankies about ghosts in the movie Tár

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This episode was produced by Sally and Aubrey and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

The NBA Cinematic Universe feat. Josh Gondelman Apr 06, 2023

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On this episode I’m joined by Josh Gondelman to talk about why being an NBA fan is a great hobby no matter how into sports you are or are not. We talked about doing trash talk but nicely, building community via sports fandom, which NBA team to become a fan of depending on what vibes you are in search of, and lots more.

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Things we talked about:

Josh on Twitter
Josh’s newsletter That’s Marvelous!
Josh’s touring schedule
Bill Burr’s Philly rant
Josh’s standup set in Philly when he talked about the Eagles being in the Super Bowl
Spinsters podcast episodes: an ode to Black hair, what it feels like to get traded, and reckoning with how pro sports teams deal with sexual assault and domestic violence
Desus & Mero
Zach Lowe’s podcast The Lowe Post
Chicago Bull Patrick Beverly showing a ref a missed foul on a camera
Katie Heindl’s newsletter Basketball Feelings
Jaylen Brown Is Trying to Find a Balance by Logan Murdock for The Ringer
Tipping Pitches
Flagrant Magazine
NBA fits of the week from Laura Jane Faulds
NBA Paints
Joel Embiid trolling Ben Simmons with the “RIP Bozo” meme

This episode was produced by Sally and Josh and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

“Gentleman Jack” and Too Muchness feat. Rachel Vorona Cote Mar 16, 2023

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For this episode, I’m joined by Rachel Vorona Cote (@RVoronaCote), author of the excellent book Too Much: How Victorian Constraints Still Bind Women Today to talk about the concept of “too muchness” (or, how social norms and expectations constrain women’s bodies, minds, and sexualities). Specifically, we looked at too muchness and the BBC series on HBO Gentleman Jack, a series based on the diaries of Anne Lister, aka “the first modern lesbian" who lived from 1791 to 1840. We talked about too muchness and: Anne Lister’s gender and sexuality, women’s mental health and the threat of institutionalization, and lots more. It was GREAT.

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This episode was produced by Sally and Rachel and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

Things we talked about:

Too Much: How Victorian Constraints Still Bind Women Today by Rachel Vorona Cote
Forbidden Notebook by Alba de Céspedes
Gentleman Jack: The Real Anne Lister by Anne Choma
The Reform Act of 1832
Tim Burton’s Alice in Wonderland (2010)
The Victorian City: Everyday Life in Dickens’ London by Judith Flanders
Sally's Veronica Mars newsletter Mars Investigations
My Gender is Maximalism by Frankie de la Cretaz for Autostraddle
Pretty Hate Machine by Nine Inch Nails
Peaker Blinders (2013-2022)
Poker Face (2023)
Julia Furlan’s podcast recs for Women’s History Month
Alex Sujong Laughlin’s podcast recs for Women’s History Month

The Movie Carol and Its Place In the Queer Canon feat. Kira Deshler Jan 26, 2023

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For this episode, I’m joined by Kira Deshler, lesbian pop culture expert, and writer of the newsletter Paging Dr. Lesbian. Kira and I talked about the movie Carol and why we and so many queer people are obsessed with it. From the longing glances and the shoulder touches to the whole Mommy’s Baby of it, we dove very deep. We also talked about lesbian pulp novel, sapphic romance movies generally, and Carol’s place in the overall canon.

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This episode was produced by Sally and Kira and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

Things we talked about:

Queer Female Fans: A Master’s Thesis by Kira
The 1945 movie Brief Encounter
The Price of Salt by Patricia Highsmith
Carol is Not the Romance of Your Memes by Frankie de la Cretaz for Vulture
Ammonite (2020)
Portrait of a Lady on Fire (2019)
Carmilla
Marvel’s Agent Carter
Long Live MILFs: On Stanning Middle-Aged Actresses by Kira for her newsletter

Manic Pixie Dream Gay feat. Aubrey Gordon Dec 21, 2022

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On this episode, Aubrey Gordon (@yrfatfriend) is here to talk about the 2022 Christmas romcom Looking For Her. We recapped the movie and then talked more in-depth about this affable, mild foray into the queer romcom space. We also tried to figure out what even makes a movie gay.

Don’t forget to check out Aubrey’s 2021 book What We Don’t Talk About When We Talk About Fat!

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This episode was produced by Sally and Aubrey and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

Things we talked about:

Aubrey’s forthcoming (2023) book You Just Need to Lose Weight And 19 Other Myths About Fat People (which you can pre-order here)
The Society
‘Looking for Her’ delivers a cozy holiday romance story by Gary M. Kramer for Gay City News

Names and Naming feat. Zahra Barnes Oct 29, 2022

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Zahra Barnes (head name nerd) is back to talk about names and naming things. We talked about our own names, our cats’ names, names and gender norms, name trends, and plenty more.

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This episode was produced by Sally and Zahra and edited by Aram Vartian. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (@rocketorca). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter @OhILikeThatPod and on Instagram @OhILikeThatPod.

Things we talked about:

r/namenerds
All of Us Are Dead
The 50 Most Game of Thrones-y Names on Game of Thrones By Rachel Handler for Vulture
@SonnyHoneyBubba

Working From Home feat. Aubrey Gordon Sep 29, 2022

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On this episode, Aubrey Gordon, writer and co-host of Maintenance Phase joins to talk all about working from home. We discuss how we get things done and stay focused as well as how we take breaks and take care of ourselves, all while trying not to work ourselves into a fine powder.

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Things we talked about:

Weddings: A Rich Tapestry feat. Zahra Barnes Aug 11, 2022

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On this episode, Zahra Barnes joins as guest co-host to talk about weddings. We talked about intentional planning, satisficers vs. maximizers, weird gender shit, and the depravity of getting married at a plantation. We also weighed in on whether a bride’s FAQ list for her wedding party was genius or rude.

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Things we talked about:

The Love of My Life by Rosie Walsh
The Art of Gathering by Priya Parker
OILT episode 22 (How to Throw a Better Party—During the Pandemic, or Whenever), where talked about The Art of Gathering in detail
The video game Stray
A bride-to-be’s expectations list that went viral
Airlie, where Zahra got married Reddit’s r/WeddingPlanning

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