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"Shoehorning Android into an Apple setup" Mar 16, 2024

Show notes

Eight or Sixteen is back after Mark’s trip to the Mobile World Conference in Barcelona. In this episode, Mark tells us all about his big trip to Apple HQ in Battersea and his opportunity to review the BMW IX2. Rob and Mark also give their verdict on the Nothing Phone (2a) and the latest release from Apple in the form of the M3 MacBook Air.

You can see Mark’s full review of both the Nothing Phone (2a) and M3 MacBook Air on the main channel now!
If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.

Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

"Cardboard cutouts of Craig Federighi" Feb 24, 2024

Show notes

In this episode, Rob and Mark discuss the M3 iMac video fallout, fitness tech and they also explore the new Apple Vision Pro and question, is it just another headset, or is it something way more... (should they wear these tech masks in more episodes?).

Links

➡️ Mark’s Vision Pro livestream Q&A replay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjuqUSnMdC0
➡️ Mark’s Vision Pro “one week later” video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp3JYZxS53o
➡️ Mark Zuckerberg tries Vision Pro: https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/13/24072413/mark-zuckerberg-apple-vision-pro-review-quest-3

➡️ Juno, the unofficial YouTube client from Christian Selig, ex-developer of now-defunct Apollo app for Reddit: https://christianselig.com/2024/02/introducing-juno/
➡️ Rob was using Immersed on the Quest 3 to see Mark on StreamYard: https://immersed.com

➡️ BoboVR M3 Pro Quest 3 strap:

Amazon - convenient but pricey: https://www.amazon.co.uk/BOBOVR-M3-Pro-Accessories-Compatible/dp/B0CJLG9SBR/

Direct - half the price, but shipped from China and often out of stock: https://www.bobovr.com/products/bobovr-m3-pro

➡️ Larq Self-Cleaning or Built-In Filter Water Bottle: https://www.livelarq.com

➡️ Borderlands Movie Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgj7xBc3n-0

➡️ Honor Magic V2 RSR Porsche Design edition: https://www.hihonor.com/uk/shop/honor-magic-v2-rsr-porsche-design/

➡️ Honor Magic6 Pro that Rob might get for £1: https://www.hihonor.com/uk/shop/new-launch/

➡️ OnePlus Open foldable: https://www.oneplus.com/uk/oneplus-open

➡️ GameSir X2 gamepad with USB connection on the left - ideal for use with foldable phones: https://www.gamesir.hk/collections/gamepads/products/gamesir-x2s

➡️ GameSir G8 Galileo gamepad for phones (much better controller than the X2 but the USB is on the right, so no good for foldables): https://www.gamesir.hk/collections/gamepads/products/gamesir-g8-galileo

➡️ Backbone One gamepad for phones: https://playbackbone.com/gb/

➡️ Return to Monkey Island game: https://returntomonkeyisland.com

➡️ GoCube Bluetooth Rubik’s Cube: https://particula-tech.com/?v=e4b09f3f8402

➡️ Rubik’s Clock: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubik's_Clock

➡️ Rubik’s Magic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubik's_Magic

➡️ Mark Fox Personal Trainer: https://www.fantasticalmrfox.com

If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.

Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

"$200 shell suit for your Vision Pro” Feb 03, 2024

Show notes

In this episode, join Mark and Rob as they discuss everything from smartwatches and Google Assistant quirks to Apple's latest releases and the intriguing Vision Pro. Delve into their candid opinions on WatchOS, the Mint Green Pixel 8 Pro, and the Samsung Watch, along with insights on Fossil's exit from the smartwatch market. The conversation takes unexpected turns, providing a blend of humour and tech discoveries. Also stay tuned for Mark's upcoming Vision Pro unboxing on his main channel coming very soon!

Links

➡️ Honor V2 Porsche special edition: https://geni.us/hcsnW
➡️ Honor V2 preorder perks (technically possible to get it down from £1,799 to £1,099): https://geni.us/Gof4W

➡️ Tell them you’re trading in a phone by selecting the option before you add to cart (you don’t actually need to send it to them) - £200 off: https://geni.us/Gof4W

➡️ £300 coupon for registering before 1st March 2024: https://geni.us/rkCBg

➡️ Extra £100 off if you already own an Honor device: https://geni.us/wvu7r6

➡️ Free Bang & Olufsen Beocom Portal headset worth £549 via redemption between 16th February-12th April 2024:
https://geni.us/vB6wn
https://geni.us/evvqXB
- 66W fast charger included

- 6 months accidental damage insurance

➡️ Nothing transparent USB-C cable: https://geni.us/3sTmK12

➡️ Nothing SIM eject tool (only available in the box with a Nothing phone purchase or on eBay, not direct from Nothing): https://geni.us/gyaAA

➡️ Samsung Vegan Leather Case (not recommended!): https://geni.us/sk8AWH

➡️ Mint Green Pixel 8 Pro: https://geni.us/rFyL

To check how much space is being taken up by macOS Sonoma screensavers:

- Fire up Finder, hit CMD+Shift+G then paste in this location: /Library/Application Support/com.apple.idleassetsd/

- Right-click, get info on “Customer” folder

➡️ Walkabout Mini Golf Jim Henson’s Labyrinth DLC: https://geni.us/ril0hEG

If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.

Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

"Did Ali fix your keyboard?" Jan 20, 2024

Show notes

In this episode Mark and Rob recap the big reveals from CES 2023. They discuss the Samsung Galaxy AI features in the new S24 series. Samsung is also promising 7 generations of Android updates, leading to speculation that this means 7 years of support. Other topics include Samsung's own smart ring to compete with the Lotus Ring that lets you control devices by pointing at them like a Jedi, the quirky rolling Ballie robot that Mark wonders if it actually does anything, and Mark's experiences attending CES - seeing the F1 safety car, staying in a massive Trump hotel suite, but somehow missing all the big product demos.

Links
➡️ Las Vegas Sphere: https://geni.us/wBgBj0u

➡️ Kohler $10,000 e-ink Toilet: https://geni.us/3drsb

➡️ MrMobile/Michael Fisher’s Clicks Keyboard Case for iPhone: https://geni.us/bzwLc5

➡️ Ali Abdaal’s Lightmode keyboard: https://geni.us/7KcULuX

➡️ Naya modular keyboard: https://geni.us/hnOFFP

➡️ Monokei Series 2 keyboard: https://geni.us/ABYRPDA

➡️ Nomad E keyboard: https://geni.us/he3TiT

➡️ Rabbit R1 AI assistant: https://geni.us/iaEnGhq

➡️ Humane aiPin: https://geni.us/NjChkPv

➡️ Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses: https://geni.us/YZynPT

➡️ Samsung Galaxy Unpacked 2024 Replay: https://geni.us/h0Slqs

Use code S24GW to get a free Watch6 when preordering any S24 series device by 25th January 2024

Preorder using the Samsung Store app (instead of the website) using coupon APP5 for an additional 5% off

➡️Circle to Search Google Gemini info: https://geni.us/HJTcS

➡️Jon Prosser’s “No-one cares about Vision Pro” video: https://geni.us/P8d8zDw

➡️ Lotus IR blaster ring: https://geni.us/lltZ9S

If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.

Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

“Rickrolled by the BBC” Jan 06, 2024

Show notes

Mark and Rob get together to discuss Mark's CES plans, thoughts on Samsung's upcoming Galaxy Unpacked event, and whether intriguing new accessories like the Magic Mouse and Clicks keyboard case are worth a look.

Rob shares his experience switching to a new Mac, the tools and research involved in deciding, and the realities of upgrading his streaming gear.

They also discuss audience feedback highlights from previous videos, Mark and Rob's ideas for building out their ultimate home studios, and more of the top tech news and gadgets on their radars.

Links

➡️Mark’s Phone of the Year 2023 - Honor 90 - £399 512gb/12gb: https://geni.us/uwIFp7N

➡️Register for Samsung Unpacked 2024 for : https://geni.us/6ONe

➡️Magic Mouse MagSafe adaptor case thing: https://geni.us/LnMzV

➡️Weird chewy cat thing (Amagami Ham Ham) from CES2022: https://geni.us/CKV5Ss

Resources used in Rob’s M1/M1 Max/M2 Pro/M3/M3 Pro comparison:

Set alerts for refurbished machines on the Apple Store: https://geni.us/wDNqE
Useful CPU specs: https://geni.us/7G1o3P1
Benchmark repository: https://geni.us/i4AqBZ
Every Mac database: https://geni.us/AIuuDr

➡️Herman Miller Aeron chair: https://geni.us/rkIVj

➡️Third party Atlas headrest: https://geni.us/xvZobI

➡️Steelcase Gesture chair: https://geni.us/I4WfN4

➡️Govee RGBICWW Floor Lamp: https://geni.us/dWhmoB

➡️Clicks - an iPhone case with a hardware keyboard built in, from Mr Mobile: https://geni.us/kheM

If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.

Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

“The WAN Show with a K” Dec 16, 2023

Show notes

In this episode, Rob and Mark discuss Mark's AirPods Max experiment, what they both want to see from Apple in 2024, and they dig deep into Rob's amazing tech bag.

Oh, and they reveal some VERY big news about Eight or Sixteen!
Check out Eight or Sixteen on YouTube: https://youtu.be/-xccEXki4hs

Links

Bose QuietComfort headphones:
- https://www.bose.co.uk/en_gb/products/headphones/noise_cancelling_headphones/bose-quietcomfort-headphones.html#v=QC-HEADPHONEARN-BLK-WW
Sonos Move speaker:
- https://www.sonos.com/en-gb/shop/move
B&O H95 headphones:
- https://www.bang-olufsen.com/en/gb/headphones/beoplay-h95
Moft Snap Float iPad mini Origami Case:
- https://www.moft.us/products/origami-ipad-folio?variant=40025721471063
Dell Mini 9:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_Inspiron_Mini_Series
Typing of the Dead:
- https://store.steampowered.com/app/246580/The_Typing_of_The_Dead_Overkill/
Grams28 154 Citypack MANBAG:
- https://www.grams28.com/products/154-city-pack
EE Special Apple TV 4K
- https://ee.co.uk/tv/apple-tv-4k
Cafele 100W retractable cable:
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/CAFELE-Cable-100W-Super-Charging/dp/B0BK83GW8R
UGREEN 65W Charger:
- https://uk.ugreen.com/products/ugreen-nexode-65w-usb-c-gan-charger-3-ports-wall-charger
UGREEN 25,000mAh Power Bank:
- https://uk.ugreen.com/products/ugreen-145w-25000mah-power-bank-for-laptop-3-ports-power-bank
Elago AirPods Pro Casette Case:
- https://www.elago.com/collections/airpods-pro-2-case-elago/products/cassette-tape-case-for-airpods-pro-2-2-colors
Hidrate Spark RGB Water Bottle:
- https://hidratespark.com
Play Date:
- https://play.date
Backbone One controller:
- https://playbackbone.com
Magic Mouse Ergonomic Charging Case:
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0C7442GM7
Acasis DIY external SSD enclosure:
- https://www.acasis.com/collections/all-products/products/acasis-usb4-0-mobile-m-2-nvme-enclosure-40gbps-compatible-with-typec-thunderbolt-3-interface-solid-state-nvme-ssd-universal-tools?variant=43694516601061
Zizzle Zoundz:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYYtFRPy9iA
Toniebox Audio Player for kids:
- https://us.tonies.com/pages/toniebox
Yoto Audiobook Player for kids:
- http://yotoplay.com

If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.

Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

“Things that look like other things” Dec 02, 2023

Show notes

In this episode, Rob and Mark talk skateboards, Porsches, Jeff Bezos' face, and an unfortunate turn of events for Nothing.

Links

Correction from Rob: Louise did in fact know the open source alternative to Thunderbolt (Oculink) and had posted it in the chat, I just didn’t see it!

Ali Abdaal Lightmode Keyboard:
- https://www.lightmode.com/products/coral-orange
Sigma 16mm F1.4 lens:
- https://www.sigma-global.com/en/lenses/c017_16_14/
Justin Hawkins Rides Again:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4LC0qZiNew
Nothing/Sunbird security catastrophe:
- https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/11/nothings-imessage-app-was-a-security-catastrophe-taken-down-in-24-hours/
JerryRigEverything / Casetify debacle:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byfWscC87Vg
Sensei macOS monitoring app (alternative to iStatMenus):
- https://cindori.com/sensei
Ayaneo AM01 mini PC that looks like a retro Mac:
- https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ayaneo-retro-mini-pc-creator-of-mini-pc-2-0-era#/
Ayaneo Slide:
- https://ayaneo.com/product/AYANEO-SLIDE.html
GPD Win4 handheld PC that looks like a PS Vita:
- https://www.gpd.hk/gpdwin4
GPD GPU Oculink dock:
- https://www.gpd.hk/gpdg1graphics
8bitdo retro bluetooth controllers:
- https://www.8bitdo.com/apple/
NuPhy keyboards:
- https://nuphy.com
Aqara FP2 Presence Sensor:
- https://www.aqara.com/eu/product/presence-sensor-fp2/
SwitchBot Hub 2:
- https://uk.switch-bot.com/products/switchbot-hub-2
Rob’s new shelf:
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BN1FG971
Rob’s 90-degree XLR adaptors to fix the front-facing jacks on the Moto M2:
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BZ5SP6JV
Rob’s new KVM switch that can do 5K2K:
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C5WPR68H
Rob’s new comedically large QB12 Subwoofer in Gloss White:
- https://www.qacoustics.co.uk/q-acoustics-qb12.html
Free Satellite SOS extended for iPhone 14 users (who registered their device prior to Nov 15) for another two, or two years from date of activation for new purchasers
- https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/11/apple-extends-emergency-sos-via-satellite-for-an-additional-free-year/
Banking Data in Apple Wallet now live for UK users:
- https://www.apple.com/uk/newsroom/2023/11/new-apple-pay-feature-helps-users-access-account-information-more-conveniently/
Spatialify beta for encoding iPhone Spatial Video for Quest 3:
- https://testflight.apple.com/join/EEFFsOzJ
Bobby Fingers’ Jeff Bezos Rowing Boat
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGhcSupkNs8

If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.

Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

”Hello, Mark!” Nov 18, 2023

Show notes

In this episode, Rob and Mark discuss Mark's multiple trips to Battersea Power Station, the fallout from the M3 iMac video, and more - although there's an unlikely star of the show in this one, too (and probably a future co-host).

Links

Nothing Chats:
- https://nothing.tech/pages/nothing-chats
Sunbird:
- https://www.sunbirdapp.com
Beeper (hosted):
- https://www.beeper.com
Beeper (self-hosted):
- https://github.com/beeper/self-host
Blue Bubbles (self-hosted):
- https://bluebubbles.app
Apple allegedly supporting RCS messaging standard next year:
- https://9to5mac.com/2023/11/16/apple-rcs-coming-to-iphone/
NothingOS 2.5 Beta available:
- https://nothing.community/d/2812-nothing-os-25-open-beta-2-phone-2
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHWj6XNE5ZM
Sonos leaked email where CEO mentions move into headphones:
- https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-16/sonos-plans-to-cut-jobs-as-it-prepares-push-into-headphones?leadSource=uverify wall
Sonos bought an audio component miniaturisation expert Mayht last year:
- https://investors.sonos.com/news-and-events/investor-news/latest-news/2022/Sonos-Announces-Acquisition-of-Mayht-Holding-BV/default.aspx
Sonos rugged speaker for the outdoors:
- https://www.sonos.com/en-gb/shop/roam
Qualcomm’s S7 and S7 Pro headphone chips that allow lossless streaming over Wi-Fi:
- https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2023/10/qualcomm-s7-and-s7-pro-gen-1-sound-platforms-unleash-next-level-
Humane AI Pin:
- https://hu.ma.ne
OnePlus Open foldable:
- https://www.oneplus.com/uk/open
DJI Pocket 3:
- https://www.dji.com/osmo-pocket-3
Sony Alpha A9 III:
- https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-9m3
Steam Deck OLED:
- https://www.steamdeck.com/en/
Bobo VR M3 Pro upgraded strap for Quest 3:
- https://www.bobovr.com/products/bobovr-m3-pro

If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.

Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

”It doesn’t help that you’re upside down” Nov 02, 2023

Show notes

In this episode, Rob and Mark dissect the 'Scary Fast' Apple event. And Rob spends the entire recording upside down in Streamyard. Brilliant.

Links

Apple Hallowe’en Event replay:
- https://events-delivery.apple.com/2409nbcxymeynatwojbbrjuhryomtudb/m3u8/vod_index-oXZvssLWyjfQDEQuVuCBHPWDywaNEipk.m3u8
Mark’s Pre-event livestream replay:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm3O4gTzYWQ
Braided Space Black MagSafe 3 Charging Cable:
- https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MUVQ3AM/A/usb-c-to-magsafe-3-cable-2-m-space-black
Apple’s Polishing Cloth supports the new M3 Macs and continues to be the most compatible product they sell (scroll down and check out the hilarious Compatibility section):
- https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MM6F3AM/A/polishing-cloth
Resident Evil Village now available for iPhone 15 Pro with A17 Pro (and iPads with M chips) with 60% off sale to celebrate the launch:
- https://apps.apple.com/us/app/resident-evil-village/id6450980545

If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.

Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

“I’ve got a silly little teapot” Oct 14, 2023

Show notes

In today's show, Rob and Mark discuss the new Pixel stuff, Rob's exciting new purchases, to go naked or not with the iPhone 15 Pro Max, and a silly little teapot.

Links

Jeremy Clarkson’s beer:
- http://hawkstone.co
Braun Thermoscan Thermometer:
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/Braun-Thermoscan-7-IRT6520-Thermometer/dp/B00NVMIO02
Apple Watch Ultra Pip-Boy reference:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pip-Boy
Spigen Classic C1 Bondi Blue iMac G3-esque Case:
- https://www.spigen.com/products/iphone-15-series-case-classic-c1-magfit
Mark’s Marshall Earbuds Review:
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWNanvge-Ww
Quest 3 - use this link for £23 store credit (full disclosure, I also get £23 store credit):
- https://www.meta.com/referrals/link/actuallyquitenicerob
I Expect You to Die game - use this link for 25% off (full disclosure, I get £4 store credit):
- https://www.oculus.com/appreferrals/actuallyquitenicerob/1987283631365460/
First Encounters Mixed Reality game (where stuff takes over your living room, bursting through the walls and jumping on your sofa):
- https://www.meta.com/en-gb/experiences/6236169136472090/
BoboVR M3 Pro upgraded Quest 3 head strap and battery pack for heavy users:
- https://twitter.com/bobovr_official/status/1711340031514947865
Backbone One Controller:
- https://playbackbone.com/gb/products/backbone-one-usb-c/
Bose SoundLink Mini II bluetooth speaker:
- https://www.bose.co.uk/en_gb/products/speakers/portable_speakers/soundlink_mini_ii_special.html#v=soundlink_mini_ii_special_triple_black
Yamaha YSP-2200 old skool soundbar:
- https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/sound_bar/ysp-2200/index.html
Rob’s silly little teapot:
- https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B073GHBJFD
Life-sized Monopoly:
- https://www.monopolylifesized.com

If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.

Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com

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