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    No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp – Tokens Media

    What does it really mean to live a good life—in our politics, our faith, our work, and our relationships?

    On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.

    Together we ask:

    How can religion be a force for healing instead of division?

    What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity?

    Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good?

    How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively?

    If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road.

    Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.

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    208: Unabridged Interview: Michele Norris May 16, 2025
    Show notes

    This is our unabridged interview with Michele Norris.


    “I wanted to create a vehicle that allowed people to talk about this allegedly toxic topic on their own terms.”- Michele Norris.

    Could you describe your experience of race in America in just 6 words? That’s the very thing Journalist Michele Norris asked 200 strangers to do back in 2015, when she printed a stack of postcards with these simple directions: Race, your story, 6 words, please send. What began as an exercise to spark conversation became The Race Card Project, a growing online archive comprising over 750,000 answers from Americans of every ethnicity and corner of the country. The responses are at once tender and confronting, and they hold a mirror up to a part of American life that is often felt, but rarely openly discussed.


    Show Notes

    Resources:

    "The Grace of Silence"

    "Our Hidden Conversations"

    The Race Card Project

    NPR's The Race Card Project: Six Word Essays

    Your Mamma’s Kitchen Podcast


    Similar Episodes:

    Musa al-Gharbi

    John Blake

    Eugene Cho and Karen Korematsu


    Transcript


    Want more NSE? Join NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and early access to tickets to our live shows.

    Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com.

    Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube
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    208: Michele Norris: Race, Your Story, 6 Words, Please Send May 12, 2025
    Show notes

    “I wanted to create a vehicle that allowed people to talk about this allegedly toxic topic on their own terms.”- Michele Norris.

    Could you describe your experience of race in America in just 6 words? That’s the very thing Journalist Michele Norris asked 200 strangers to do back in 2015, when she printed a stack of postcards with these simple directions: Race, your story, 6 words, please send. What began as an exercise to spark conversation became The Race Card Project, a growing online archive comprising over 750,000 answers from Americans of every ethnicity and corner of the country. The responses are at once tender and confronting, and they hold a mirror up to a part of American life that is often felt, but rarely openly discussed.


    Show Notes

    Resources:

    "The Grace of Silence: A Family Memoir"

    "Our Hidden Conversations: What Americans Really Think About Race and Identity"

    The Race Card Project

    NPR's The Race Card Project: Six Word Essays

    Your Mamma’s Kitchen Podcast


    Similar Episodes:

    Musa al-Gharbi

    John Blake

    Eugene Cho and Karen Korematsu


    Transcript


    Want more NSE? Join NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and early access to tickets to our live shows.

    Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com.

    Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube
    Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube
    Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter
    Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com

    See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy

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    207: Unabridged Interview: Kristin Neff May 09, 2025
    Show notes

    This is our unabridged interview with Kristin Neff.


    Is high self-esteem crucial to human flourishing, or, rather, a hindrance?

    “The biggest problem with self-esteem is that it tends to be contingent,” says Kristin Neff. “We only feel good about ourselves when we succeed.” Far too often, high self-esteem breeds narcissism, bullying, and prejudice.

    Kristin is a professor of Educational Psychology at the University of Texas at Austin. She’s also a prominent expert on the topic of self-compassion, which her research has found to be much more effective than self-esteem in helping people flourish. In this episode, she shares what makes self-compassion different from self-esteem, how to cultivate it, and how it can help us to flourish amidst stress, suffering, and everyday life. We also hear briefly from psychiatrist and author Curt Thompson illuminating the negative neurobiological effects of shame while Kristen explains how self compassion can remedy these effects.


    Show Notes

    Resources:

    Self-Compassion by Kristin Neff

    Fierce Self-Compassion by Kristin Neff

    Self-Compassion.org

    Why Self-Compassion Works Better than Self-Esteem


    Similar episodes:

    Tara Brach

    Judith Moskowitz

    Alfie Kohn

    Curt Thompson


    Want more NSE? Join NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and early access to tickets to our live shows.

    Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com.

    Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube
    Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube
    Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter
    Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com

    See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy

    Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com.

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


    No Small Endeavor Presents: What It’s Like to Be with Dan Heath May 07, 2025
    Show notes

    Today, we are sharing an episode of “What It’s Like to Be…” from author Dan Heath.

    On the podcast, Dan explores the world of work, one profession at a time, and interviews people who love what they do. He finds out: What does a couples therapist think when a friend asks for relationship advice? Is a Secret Service Agent supposed to pretend like they’re not there when they’re around the president? What are the 3 clocks that govern the life of a long-haul truck driver? If you’ve ever met someone whose work you were curious about, and you had 100 nosy questions but were too polite to ask… this is the show for you. In this preview, Dan talks to Dr. Hindatu Mohammed, a veterinarian from Austin. You’ll hear about how she calms scared cats with pheromone sprays. How she helps clients make hard health care decisions about their pets. You’ll also learn what breed of dog, when having its nails clipped, acts like it's being murdered! You may also pick up a word that you may end up wishing you didn’t know: “neuticles.”

    You can listen to more episodes of What It’s Like to Be at https://link.mgln.ai/nsedanheath.


    Want more NSE? Join NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and early access to tickets to our live shows.

    Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com.

    Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube
    Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube
    Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter
    Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com

    See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy

    Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com.

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


    207: A Toolkit for Mental Wellbeing May 05, 2025
    Show notes

    In stressful times, what if the key to mental and emotional well-being was not a mystery, but a set of daily, accessible practices that you could start today?
    In this special compilation episode we’ve curated guidance from some of the world’s leading voices in the science of wellbeing—including Dacher Keltner, Kristin Neff, Robert Waldinger, Marc Schulz, Judith Moskowitz, Marisa Franco, Amishi Jha, and Oliver Burkeman—to explore how awe, self-compassion, relationships and mindfulness shape our lives and minds.

    You’ll learn how experiences of awe can dramatically improve immune health and reduce anxiety; why self-compassion trumps self-esteem for lasting mental strength; how healthy relationships are not only the greatest predictor of happiness but even protect against physical illness; and how intentional mindfulness combats stress and boosts attention.

    Through science and lived experience, this episode offers a toolkit for building a more connected, reflective, and flourishing life of greater mental well-being.


    Show Notes

    Similar Episodes:

    Kristin Neff

    Curt Thompson

    Meghan Sullivan

    Heather Holleman

    Kelly Corrigan


    Transcript


    Want more NSE? Join NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and early access to tickets to our live shows.

    Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com.

    Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube
    Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube
    Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter
    Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com

    See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy

    Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com.

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


    206: Unabridged Interview: Sissy Goff May 02, 2025
    Show notes

    This is our unabridged interview with Sissy Goff.


    We are living in a rapidly changing world. Whether politics, technology, or climate - the future that our children face will likely look very different than previous generations. Given the modern challenges of smartphones, social media, and rising mental health issues, should our parenting also be evolving?

    Sissy Goff is the author of 13 books full of practical parenting advice for just such questions. She's been counseling for over 30 years, and her latest project focuses on building resilience in children. In this episode Sissy shares practical strategies every parent can use to help their children flourish, and advice for adults navigating the digital age.


    Show Notes

    Resources:

    Sissy’s Podcast

    Sissy's Books

    “Breath” by James Nestor

    “The Anxious Generation” by Jonathan Haidt

    “How to Find Meaning After Loss” by David Kessler

    “The Road Back to You” by Suzanne Stabile

    “Quiet Power” by Susan Cain


    Similar Episodes:

    Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz

    Angela Duckworth

    Alfie Kohn


    Transcript


    Want more NSE? Join NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and early access to tickets to our live shows.

    Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com.

    Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube
    Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube
    Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter
    Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com

    See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy

    Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com.

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


    206: Sissy Goff: How to Raise Resilient Kids Apr 28, 2025
    Show notes

    There is no doubt that we are living in a rapidly changing world. Whether the topic is politics, technology, or climate - the future that our children face will likely look very different than previous generations. Given the modern challenges of smartphones, social media, and rising mental health issues, should our parenting also be evolving?

    Sissy Goff is the author of 13 books full of practical parenting advice for just such questions. She's been counseling kids and families for over 30 years, and her latest project focuses on building resilience in children. In this episode Sissy shares practical strategies every parent can use to help their children flourish, as well as advice for adults navigating the digital age.


    Show Notes

    Resources:

    Sissy’s Podcast

    Sissy's Books

    “Breath” by James Nestor

    “The Anxious Generation” by Jonathan Haidt

    “How to Find Meaning After Loss” by David Kessler

    “The Road Back to You” by Suzanne Stabile

    “Quiet Power” by Susan Cain


    Similar Episodes:

    Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz

    Angela Duckworth

    Alfie Kohn


    Transcript


    Want more NSE? Join NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and early access to tickets to our live shows.

    Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com.

    Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube
    Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube
    Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter
    Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com

    See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy

    Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com.

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


    205: Unabridged Interview: Sheryl Crow Apr 25, 2025
    Show notes

    This is our unabridged interview with Sheryl Crow.


    After a stellar performance on No Small Endeavor Live, 9 time Grammy Winner Sheryl Crow sits down with Lee to discuss the tension between ambition and creativity, the profound realization that accompanied her breast cancer diagnosis, and the impact of mindfulness and meditation on her daily life. Crow also tells the story behind her posthumous duet with Johnny Cash, the social advocacy that has defined her career, and how embracing an unconventional life led her to motherhood. All that, plus Sheryl's musical performance at No Small Endeavor: Live! Join us as we explore the challenges and triumphs of over 3 decades in the public eye.


    Show Notes

    Resources:

    The Sheryl Documentary

    "Forever"

    "Weather Channel"

    "Redemption Day"

    "Love Is A Good Thing"

    Sharon Salzberg & Faith


    Similar Episodes:

    Russ Taff: Music, Addiction and Redemption

    Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded

    Tara Brach: Radical Acceptance


    Transcript


    Want more NSE? Join NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and early access to tickets to our live shows.

    Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com.

    Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube
    Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube
    Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter
    Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com

    See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy

    Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com.

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


    205: Sheryl Crow: Becoming Who She Always Was Apr 21, 2025
    Show notes

    After a stellar performance on No Small Endeavor Live, 9 time Grammy Winner Sheryl Crow sits down with Lee to discuss the tension between ambition and creativity, the profound realization that accompanied her breast cancer diagnosis, and the impact of mindfulness and meditation on her daily life. Crow also tells the story behind her posthumous duet with Johnny Cash, the social advocacy that has defined her career, and how embracing an unconventional life led her to motherhood. All that, plus Sheryl's musical performance at No Small Endeavor: Live! Join us as we explore the challenges and triumphs of over 3 decades in the public eye.


    Show Notes

    Resources:

    The Sheryl Documentary

    "Forever"

    "Weather Channel"

    "Redemption Day"

    "Love Is A Good Thing"

    Sharon Salzberg & Faith


    Similar Episodes:

    Russ Taff: Music, Addiction and Redemption

    Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded

    Tara Brach: Radical Acceptance


    Transcription Link


    Want more NSE? Join NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and early access to tickets to our live shows.

    Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com.

    Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube
    Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube
    Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter
    Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com

    See Privacy Policy: Privacy Policy

    Amazon Affiliate Disclosure: Tokens Media, LLC is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com.

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


    204: Unabridged Interview: Mike Cosper Apr 18, 2025
    Show notes

    This is our unabridged interview with Mike Cosper.


    How do you raise criticisms about a group of which you consider yourself to be a member?

    Mike Cosper hosted The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill, a podcast critiquing a lot of the tendencies of American Christianity. “ People are looking at Christianity and saying, is it true?” he says. “I think where I landed after my own negative experiences was asking, is it good?”

    In this episode, we cover some of the key issues such a question has raised for Mike - like celebrity culture and toxic masculinity - as well as what it’s like to do the work of insider critique in such a public role.


    Show Notes

    Resources:

    The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill

    Mike’s books


    Similar NSE episodes:

    Nancy French: Ghosted by Her Own Tribe

    Katelyn Beaty: How Celebrity Culture is Hurting the Church

    Kristin Du Mez: Jesus and John Wayne


    PDF of Lee's Interview Notes

    Transcript of Abridged Episode


    Want more NSE? JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes designed specifically to help you live a good life, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows

    Great Feeling Studios, the team behind No Small Endeavor and other award-winning podcasts, helps nonprofits and brands tell stories that inspire action. If your organization has a message that deserves to be heard, start your podcast at helpmemakeapodcast.com.

    Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube
    Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube
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    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


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