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    Nice Talk with Nikki Ogunnaike

    Welcome to Nice Talk, hosted by Marie Claire Editor in Chief Nikki Ogunnaike. Each week, Nikki will sit down with fascinating women—entertainers, entrepreneurs, creators, athletes, and changemakers—to discuss money, power, and style. “Well-behaved” women have long been discouraged from speaking on these topics—style should be effortless, and conversations about money or power aren’t “proper,” “ladylike,” or “nice.” But Nikki’s definition of a Nice Talk is one where all parties walk away feeling empowered. Nikki’s guests are getting candid about how they navigated their come-ups, what makes them feel both powerful and powerless, and of course, how they use personal style to communicate with the world.

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    Power Talk: Kamie Crawford on Modern Relationship Dynamics, Including Why You Shouldn’t Manifest a Rich Husband Jul 17, 2025
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    Today on the show, we’re discussing power dynamics in relationships with Kamie Crawford. Between her award-winning podcast Relationsh*t, her six years spent as co-host of Catfish: The TV Show, and her role as older sister in a family of six kids, Crawford knows a thing or two about relationships. On this episode, she dives into her relationship with fame as well as why she made the difficult decision to leave Catfish after years on the show. She also gives advice to listeners about relationships, including how to make friends as an adult, how to navigate the daunting friend breakup, and why she cautions against manifesting a rich husband.


    Style Talk: Katie Sturino on the State of Size Inclusivity in Fashion and Writing Her Debut Novel Jul 10, 2025
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    Today on the show, we’re focusing on the topic of style with author, body-acceptance advocate, and founder of Megababe Katie Sturino. Sturino began her career in fashion and built her own PR agency when she was just 25 years old. While rising to the top in her field behind the scenes, she also began gaining traction as a creator herself, making meaningful change in the fashion industry with her social media series “Make My Size” and “Supersize the Look.” In 2017, Sturino launched her bodycare brand, Megababe, which is now sold worldwide in retailers including Walmart, Target, and Ulta. On top of everything, this June, she released her debut novel, Sunny Side Up. Today on the show, she reflects on how the fashion industry has changed over the years in regard to size inclusivity, shares her favorite brands that make summer staples in plus sizes, and advises on how to battle the noise of SkinnyTok.


    Style Talk: Charlotte Palermino on the Politics of Sunscreen and Recession Indicators in Beauty Jul 03, 2025
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    On this episode, we’re focusing on the topic of style with Charlotte Palermino, cofounder and chief brand officer of Dieux Skin. After years of working in media, Palermino launched Dieux Skin, a price-transparent, clinically vetted skincare line with cult-favorite products like the Forever Eye Mask. In addition to building a skincare line, Palermino is a content creator known for her no-bullshit, science-backed approach to beauty. Today, Palermino’s diving into why sunscreen regulations are political, how misinformation becomes profitable, and the surprising beauty trends that are actually recession indicators.


    Monica Padman on Navigating the Intersection of Work and Friendship, Building an Empire on Vulnerability, and “Fashion Girlies” Jun 26, 2025
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    Monica Padman is a podcasting powerhouse. Since creating Armchair Expert in 2018, Padman and her co-host Dax Shepard have released over 900 episodes and penned a reported $80 million deal with Wondery. With a dedicated audience of Armcherries, they’ve also expanded into a number of shows under their umbrella, including Monica & Jess Love Boys, Armchair Anonymous, and their upcoming project Beth Is Dead. On this episode, Padman details her relationship with money, power, and style over the years: She dives into how an emphasis on fairness guides her financial negotiations, the power of vulnerability in podcasting, and why Ashley Olsen is her forever style icon.


    Style Talk: Fashion Expert Liv Perez on Summer Styling and Her Hot Take on One Summer Staple Jun 19, 2025
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    We’re focusing on the topic of style with Liv Perez, the host of the podcast Let’s Get Dressed. Liv began her career working at major brands like Teen Vogue, Hermès, and Glossier before setting out on her own just one year after graduating college. Today, she posts style content for her 350,000+ followers, shares her style journey on her chart-topping podcast, and contributes to the Today show through monthly fashion segments. On this episode, Liv and Nikki dive into their thoughts on the seemingly never-ending personal style discourse, and Liv gives advice to any brides beginning their wedding-fashion journey. Liv also shares what she’s excited to wear this summer, what trends she’s skipping this season, and why she loves packing cubes so much.


    Coco Gauff on Winning the French Open, Giving Back to Her Community, and Behind-the-Scenes Moments From Her New Balance x Miu Miu Campaign Jun 12, 2025
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    Just days after her French Open win, Coco Gauff is here on Nice Talk to discuss all things money, power, and style. Gauff has been a tennis legend nearly her entire life, and now, at 21 years old, she has two Grand Slam championships to her name. But on top of her tennis game, she’s also made savvy business moves throughout her career. In fact, she penned a major brand deal with New Balance when she was only 14, and today, she continues to work with the brand on meaningful collabs like the Coco Delray sneaker and the New Balance x Miu Miu With Coco Gauff campaign. On this episode, Gauff discusses how having a life outside of tennis actually makes her a better player, what it meant to her to work with the USTA to update her home courts in Florida, and the other tennis players whose style she loves.


    Money Talk: Vivian Tu, Your Rich BFF, Shares Her Summer Spending Tips Jun 05, 2025
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    On this episode, we’re focusing on the topic of money with finance expert Vivian Tu—or Your Rich BFF, as most of the internet knows her. Tu began her career on Wall Street and now creates finance content for her over eight million followers across social platforms. Today, she’s breaking down what the tariffs will mean for small businesses and consumers, how to prepare for economic downturns, and the steps people can take to travel on a budget this summer. Plus, she offers her tips on how to navigate the many expenses associated with summer weddings.


    LIVE From Power Play Atlanta: A Panel on the Business of Beauty May 29, 2025
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    Today, we have a very special live episode of Nice Talk! At Marie Claire’s Power Play in Atlanta, Nikki sat down with Dr. Leyte Winfield, the director of cosmetic science at Spelman College, and dermatologists Dr. Uchenna Okereke and Dr. Heather Woolery-Lloyd to discuss how scientific advances and innovation are impacting the beauty industry. In this episode, they break down a glossary of beauty terms, including the elusive “clean beauty” definition; explore how legacy beauty brands like Clinique can retain their Gen X customers while also appealing to younger generations; and so much more.


    Bozoma Saint John on the Power of Authenticity, Money as Freedom, and Supporting Black Designers on RHOBH May 22, 2025
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    Bozoma Saint John has one of the most impressive résumés of all time. She’s led marketing efforts at nearly every major company, including Netflix, Apple, Uber, PepsiCo, and Endeavor. In addition to her illustrious career as a marketing executive, she’s also the founder and CEO of the wig company Eve by Boz, the author of the best-selling book The Urgent Life, and a recent addition to the cast of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. On this episode, she discusses her perspective on style—from growing up with a mother who sewed her a custom prom dress to why she decided to exclusively wear clothing from Black designers on this season of RHOBH. She also dives into how it wasn’t until she began bringing her authentic self to work that she was able to step into her power and negotiate salaries like a badass.


    Natalie Nakase on Building a WNBA Team From Scratch, Interning in her 30s, and Looking to Victoria Beckham for Style Inspiration Jan 30, 2025
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    Natalie Nakase has always loved basketball—and she’s built a successful career on that passion. After playing professionally for a few years, she became a head coach overseas, but eventually moved back to the U.S. with the dream of coaching in the NBA. Over the next decade, Nakase climbed the ranks from video intern to assistant coach for the Clippers. From there, she became the assistant coach for the Las Vegas Aces, leading the team to two championship victories. Now, she’s embarking on a new role as the head coach of the Golden State Valkyries, a brand-new WNBA team. In this episode, we discuss what it’s been like for Natalie to be the “first” so many times in her career, why she accepted an internship in her 30s, and the symbolic reason she wears all-black outfits on game days.

    And just like that, season 2 is wrapped! See you next season for more nice talks!


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