Learn how to grow and monetize your newsletter! We interview the best newsletter operators, founders, and creators on how they grow their audiences and make money.
Hosted by Matt McGarry and Ryan Carr.
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Learn how to grow and monetize your newsletter! We interview the best newsletter operators, founders, and creators on how they grow their audiences and make money.
Hosted by Matt McGarry and Ryan Carr.
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Episode Description:
Matt and Ryan discuss strategies for building successful newsletters and email marketing. They also share the importance of surveys for data, segmentation for targeted messaging, niche expert newsletters, the 9-word email strategy, and repurposing valuable content.
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 Introduction and Event Overview
01:47 The Artist's Success Story
06:11 Building an Email List and Marketing Strategy
08:53 The Power of Surveys and Data Collection
13:56 Segmentation and Custom Messaging
17:57 Niche Expert Framework for Newsletters
23:09 The Nine Word Email Strategy
28:53 The Newsletter Flywheel Effect
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Tyler Bishop is an award-winning marketer, Chief Marketing Officer of Ezoic, and founder of Pubtelligence at Google. He discusses the shift from third-party to first-party data in advertising and its impact on publisher revenue. He shares insights on evolving targeting methods, data privacy regulations, and challenges for publishers.
Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 Understanding the Shift in Ad Revenue
12:09 The Evolution of Targeting: From Contextual to First-Party Data
20:40 The Value of First-Party Data in Advertising
27:58 The Art of Publishing and Business Success
29:53 The Evolution of Advertising Models
32:05 Maximizing Revenue through Advertising
34:04 Understanding Ad Revenue Trends
36:19 The Value of Traffic Sources
43:22 Leveraging First-Party Data for Growth
49:16 Identifying the Right Publishers for Programmatic Ads
50:56 The Future of Newsletter Advertising
53:01 Collecting Valuable User Data
Links Mentioned
This episode is sponsored by Playbookz: Playbookz.co
Ted co-founded Charlotte Agenda, which led to its remarkable $5 million acquisition by Axios. He currently writes Tiny Money—a local and personal finance newsletter.
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Kendall Baker is the founder of Sports Internet (acquired by Axios), the first newsletter writer at The Hustle, and now a Senior Writer at Yahoo Sports.
He's known as the "Newsletter Godfather" because he's pioneered newsletter content and has written and published more newsletters to more readers than almost anyone.
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Justin Moore is a sponsorship coach and the author of Sponsor Magnet: How to Attract, Price, and Execute Your Dream Brand Partnerships
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 The Importance of Custom Pricing for Creators
09:16 Creating a Comprehensive Sponsorship Strategy
27:05 Attracting Brands: The STP Framework
28:32 Navigating the Complexities of Pricing Sponsorships
29:00 Understanding the ARC Framework for Collaborations
32:19 Pricing Strategies Based on Brand Goals
34:46 Creating Compelling Sponsorship Packages
39:04 Innovative Collaboration Examples
43:52 Crafting Effective Outreach Strategies
57:10 The Importance of Execution in Sponsorships
Ali Qureshi is the co-founder of Adcrate. He shares strategies on effective ads for platforms like Meta and TikTok. He also shares static and video formats, copywriting, leveraging AI, hook rates, video production and more.
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 Introduction to AdCrate and Growth Strategy
02:56 The Importance of Ad Creative in Paid Advertising
05:47 Navigating Media Platforms: Meta vs. TikTok
08:53 Static vs. Video Creatives: Balancing Production and Impact
11:49 Effective Static Ad Formats and Testing Strategies
15:09 Common Mistakes in Ad Creation and Copywriting Tips
17:55 Leveraging AI for Ad Copy and Customer Insights
20:47 Innovative Ad Formats: Memes and Interface Hacking
25:42 Understanding Hook Rates and Audience Engagement
28:10 Navigating Video Content Creation on a Budget
35:09 The Importance of Script Writing for Ads
40:50 Exploring Effective Video Lengths and Frameworks
43:40 Utilizing Motion Graphics for Enhanced Engagement
46:34 Iterating and Testing Ads for Success
Links Mentioned
Matt and Ryan discuss the Honey scandal, trends for 2025, focusing on YouTube, newsletters, and the shift from vanity metrics to revenue. They also explore AI workflows, B2B newsletters, the creator-in-residence model, and the future of platforms like Upwork and overseas recruiting and more.
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 Holiday Reflections and New Beginnings
02:03 The Honey Scandal Explained
17:48 Trends for 2025: Buying and Selling Insights
27:33 The Substack Ecosystem and Creator Independence
31:27 AI-Assisted Workflows for Content Creators
33:22 The Shift from Vanity Metrics to Revenue Focus
34:20 Emerging Newsletter Ad Networks
39:00 The Rise of B2B Newsletters and Creators
41:24 Challenges of Premium Newsletters
44:43 The Creator-in-Residence Model
48:55 The Future of Overseas Recruiting Agencies
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Matt and Ryan discuss what happened in the newsletter industry and their businesses in 2024.
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Tommy Clark, the CEO of Compound Social and the co-founder of Bluecast AI, shares strategies for growing an audience on LinkedIn, creating engaging content, personal branding, and focusing on value propositions.
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 The Importance of Clear Value Proposition
03:13 Audience Growth Strategies on LinkedIn
06:04 Content Creation Fundamentals
08:58 Optimizing Content for Engagement
11:47 Leveraging Controversy in Content
14:57 The Power of Personal Stories in Content
23:58 Reflecting on Weekly Engagements
24:57 The Importance of Specificity in Content
25:51 Understanding Engagement on LinkedIn
27:44 Strategies for Boosting Engagement
29:38 The Risks of Engagement Hacking
30:36 Building an Organic Audience
32:01 Converting Followers into Customers
34:50 Exploring Growth Hacks on LinkedIn
36:14 Leveraging LinkedIn Video Content
39:04 Navigating Links in Posts
40:55 Insights on LinkedIn Newsletters
Links Mentioned
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tclarkmedia/
https://www.compoundcontentstudio.com/
Jason Woodruff, founder of The Pour Over, shares how to build a mission-driven newsletter, focusing on content quality, subscriber engagement, and sponsor-driven growth. He also offers insights on managing advertiser relationships and use referrals to build a loyal, sustainable audience.
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 The Genesis of The Pour Over
02:52 Growth and Scaling Challenges
06:10 Building a Subscriber Base
08:51 Content Quality and Reader Engagement
12:13 The Future of Newsletters and Podcasts
15:07 Team Dynamics and Content Creation
17:56 Advertising Strategies and Monetization
26:55 Rebuilding Advertiser Relationships
32:45 The Importance of Ad Copy
35:08 Growth Strategies and Paid Advertising
41:25 Referral Strategies for Subscriber Growth
46:36 Securing Sponsorships and Advertisers
Links Mentioned
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Roslyn McLarty, is an executive coach and founder at Within. She is also the co-founder of The Gist, a sports media company for women and underserved sports fans. In this episode, Roslyn shares key insights on identifying market gaps, building a brand with a strong mission, and the strategies used to grow their audience from a few hundred to hundreds of thousands of subscribers. She also discuss managing burnout, and fostering self-growth, and introduces Within, a coaching business focused on trust-based client relationships.
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00
The Journey Begins: From Beta to Launch
02:58
Identifying the Market Gap: The Gist's Unique Proposition
06:02
Building the Brand: Mission and Values
08:47
Growing the Audience: Strategies and Early Successes
12:10
Scaling Up: From Local to National
15:01
Navigating Growth: Lessons Learned and Key Metrics
17:54
Creative Marketing: Guerrilla Tactics and Launch Events
20:54
The Importance of Mission-Driven Growth
24:02
Partnerships and Collaborations: Expanding Reach
27:02
Self-List Cleaning and Giveaway Strategy
35:01
Expansion and New Ventures
37:32
The Birth of Within: A Personal Development Platform
41:08
Understanding and Preventing Burnout
50:43
Growth Strategy for Coaching Business
Links Mentioned
Katy Huff, the cofounder of MadRev, shares insights on how to sell newsletter sponsorships, audience understanding, advertiser expectations, sponsorship strategies, pricing, contract renewal, working with different brands, and more.
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00
Introduction to Mad Rev and Sales Background
03:12
Fundamentals of Selling Newsletter Sponsorships
05:56
Understanding Advertiser Expectations
09:09
Identifying Potential Advertisers
12:02
Strategies for Securing Your First Sponsor
14:53
Pricing Your First Ads
17:46
Renewals and Long-Term Relationships with Advertisers
21:03
Working with Larger Brands
24:05
Final Thoughts and Recommendations
Links Mentioned
https://www.madrev.co/
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Episode Description:
Matt and Ryan discuss the launch of the GrowLetter Ad Network, challenges faced by newsletter publishers in securing sponsorships and the changing landscape of ad rates, effective ad placement strategies, the importance of audience engagement, and the need for newsletters to be part of a broader business strategy and more.
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 Launching the Grow Letter Ad Network
09:04 Challenges in Newsletter Monetization
16:42 Optimizing Ad Placements and Strategies
29:01 Building a Sustainable Advertising Business
33:17 Newsletters as a Strategic Medium
Matt and Ryan share various newsletter business ideas and how to monetize through affiliate marketing, job boards, community engagement, and more.
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 Introduction to Newsletter Ideas
02:56 Global Talent and Remote Job Opportunities
05:47 Building a Marketing Newsletter for Overseas Marketers
09:04 Platform-Based Newsletters and Monetization Strategies
11:56 Creating Unofficial Sports Team Newsletters
14:48 Local Real Estate Investing Newsletters
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Alex Pattis is the co-founder of the Deal Sheet and Last Money In Media. In this episode we break down how in just 14 months, Alex Pattis grew his newsletter Last Money In to over 41,000 subscribers and $200k/year in ad revenue and his paid newsletter Deal Sheet to $500K ARR in seven months.
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 Starting with a Newsletter
10:02 Monetizing with Long-Term Sponsorships
21:11 The Opportunity of Deal Sheet
27:22 Strategies for Audience Growth
38:32 Doubling Down on LinkedIn
43:02 Creating Unique and Educational Content
45:00 Final Thoughts and Advice
Links Mentioned
lastmoneyin.co
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Summary
In this podcast episode, Matt McGarry discusses various strategies for growing newsletters, including the importance of webinars, effective marketing techniques, and the balance between running a course and an agency. He shares insights on SEO, content marketing, and the role of giveaways in subscriber acquisition. The conversation also touches on the challenges of newsletter publishing schedules and the potential of AI tools in content creation. Overall, the episode provides valuable tips for anyone looking to enhance their newsletter growth and marketing efforts.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Podcast Updates
03:00 Webinar Success and Marketing Strategies
05:54 Course Business Insights and Comparisons
08:49 SEO and Content Marketing Strategies
12:12 Giveaways and Subscriber Acquisition Techniques
15:05 Local Newsletter Growth Strategies
18:00 Mailbag Questions and Newsletter Publishing Schedules
20:52 Ad Angles for Local Newsletters
23:45 AI Tools for Content Creation
27:10 Closing Thoughts and Future Plans
Matt and Ryan cover cold email strategies, new ad placements, the value of niche B2B media, owned audience, and recent acquisitions in the media industry.
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 Introduction and Upcoming Meetup
02:00 Email Deliverability and Cold Email Strategies
08:19 Deliverability Concerns and Best Practices
18:04 New Ad Placements and Lead Generation Opportunities
22:48 Acquisitions in the Media Industry
34:14 Financial Publishing and Recent Resignation
Links Mentioned
matt@newsletteroperator.com
Matt and Ryan cover the benefits of SEO-minded newsletter strategies and the potential of partnering with influencers to start profitable newsletters.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Discussion
06:21 Discussion about Books and Content Consumption
19:19 SEO-Minded Strategies for Newsletter Success
27:27 Partnering with Influencers to Start Profitable Newsletters
37:06 The Value of Newsletters and Prioritizing Education
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Matt and Ryan talk about the growth and success of media companies using negative CAC. AI in advertising, creative marketing strategies, tools, and more.
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction and Plans for the Podcast
02:53 Building a Media Company and Selling Something Else
18:14 Example: Freight Waves and Sonar
24:47 Example: ClickFunnels
33:57 The Motley Fool: Building a Media Empire and Expanding into Asset Management and Venture Capital
39:28 MeatEater: Leveraging Media and Acquisitions in the Outdoor Industry
43:17 Cody Sanchez: From Media and Education to Holding Companies and Investments
46:39 Rezzi Brands: Scaling Trade Services Franchise Business
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Charlie Hoehn is a three-time New York Times bestselling editor and five-time author. He has worked with Tim Ferriss, Ramit Sethi, Codie Sanchez, Tucker Max, David Goggins, and many others.
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 Introduced through podcast, impactful book, recession-proof advice.
04:53 Initiated projects, and earned full-time employment success.
06:59 A proactive mindset leads to more opportunities.
11:15 Help businesses by addressing their key concerns.
13:51 Busy people dislike long videos; need efficiency.
18:59 Tim Ferriss leads workshops and gets direct feedback.
22:08 Expand ideas, stories, and transformation in the book.
24:12 Simon Siddig said: Tell stories with points.
28:56 Books are about long-term commitment and impact.
30:42 Book sales don't compare to equity earnings.
35:51 People interested in writing books should focus.
39:09 Target reader, build a personalized distribution list.
40:49 Focus on prescriptive nonfiction for business owners.
46:04 Ghostwriter disrupted author interviews, structure, and chapter content.
49:15 Authors recommend conversational writing for more engaging content.
Links Mentioned
charliehoehn.com
Matt and Ryan talk about effective strategies, formats for newsletter content, the importance of writing a marketing email, and many more
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 Lead with valuable content, tie to sale.
05:27 Emphasize specific, actionable value in newsletters.
08:53 Excited about new influencers and marketing strategies.
11:34 Writing effective newsletters require careful strategy.
13:33 Reduce excessive newsletter content and external links.
18:57 Webinars, marketing emails, social posts, newsletters.
20:07 Front-load marketing, send more emails. Missed opportunities.
22:47 Testing email sequences for launches; effective content.
26:43 Biohacking and focused marketing for future reports.
29:18 Test different angles, focusing on specific angles.
32:31 Using Quora for ad copy and success.
39:10 Sam's trends team provided unique, affordable market insights.
41:02 Attracted crowd, learning experience, successful business ventures.
43:58 Steps to grow podcast: review, subscribe, screenshot.
Matt and Ryan talk about the takeaways from the newsletter conference, the B2B industry, the pros and cons of ads or promotions in newsletters, newsletter ideas, and many more.
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 B2B newsletters are confident moneymaking plays.
04:44 Creating podcasts, newsletters, and social media content drives business. Monetizing as a media company with ads/courses/memberships. B2B media is more lucrative than B2C. Sell directly to the audience for business growth.
06:36 Media companies struggle with ads, and B2B creators thrive.
10:17 Focusing on the specialized audience for high value.
13:03 Workweek thesis: Identify niche industries for influence.
17:34 Generate immediate revenue through targeted advertising strategies.
19:52 Text blasts boost webinar registrations, and powerful marketing.
25:12 Influencer marketing: finding underpriced attention is key.
27:28 Smaller newsletters offer better advertising opportunities.
31:37 Consider higher CPA for better long-term value.
34:15 Many subscribers sign up for multiple newsletters.
37:34 Prefer widget installation for faster revenue generation.
40:33 Automated newsletters can be customized for relevance.
44:45 Automated sequence customized for life events.
46:02 Create a newsletter portfolio to build relationships.
49:09 Leverage Facebook, content, and SEO for marketing.
52:31 Publish podcast, send a screenshot for an invite. Live call.
Brad Wolverton is the editorial director at HubSpot Media and The Hustle (2.5M+ subscribers). Brad is also the creator of Newsletter Examples.
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 Proud to subscribe to newsletter examples on growth.
06:06 Recruit through long-term relationships, adaptability, and resilience.
09:03 Sam identified talent and facilitated her transition smoothly.
11:07 Restructuring Hustle's operations aimed at professionalism.
14:54 Consider audience, reach, and differentiation for success.
18:34 Expand your network to find credible sources.
22:46 New service for non-writing roles, cost-effective talent sourcing.
24:01 Clearing the path for talented employees.
28:45 Create habit-forming, repeatable content for email success.
32:49 Magazines structure: front, feature, fun sections.
35:55 HubSpot sought more diverse, experienced talent quickly.
38:09 HubSpot's marketing funnel reaches customers effectively.
41:37 HubSpot's strategy focuses on audience expansion.
43:54 Leverage hustle for cross promotions with newsletters.
49:37 Consider potential and be conservative in growth expectations.
52:29 Marketing show needed deeper, actionable content.
54:11 "Transition from introductions to tactical content."
Links Mentioned
John Newtson is the founder of Financial Marketing Summit, a marketing conference for financial publishers, trading educators, and media brands.
Connect with John on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnnewtson
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 Financial industry's pre-digital growth and transition.
03:14 Early e-letter advertising was profitable and impactful.
07:38 Product sales indicate customer interest and profitability.
10:23 Front end: introductory, back end: advanced products.
14:31 Financial media sources improve niche media buying.
18:52 Online marketing involves funnels, email series, and promos.
20:15 Diversify products for multiple sales and profits.
24:43 Porter Stansbury launched with a unique Amazon promo.
28:38 Understanding markets, focusing on big trends.
29:41 Mainstream story grabs attention but not wallets.
33:24 Copywriter promotes cannabis investment and attracts celebrity investors.
38:49 Affiliates offer new revenue through customer reactivation.
39:50 Buying sprees, competition for talent, sharing promos.
45:35 People falling due to shared worldview in promotions.
46:45 Buffet has strong philosophies on market changes.
50:03 Publisher drives ideas and makes qualitative decisions.
53:56 Publisher's $10 million promo led to less profit.
56:40 Search Matt McGarry on YouTube for an invite.
Links Mentioned
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About this Episode
Ryan Sager and Jesse Watkins are the founders of Who Sponsors Stuff, an advertising intelligence tool that tracks 500+ newsletters, and the hosts of The Newsletter Conference, which will take place on May 3rd.
Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 Matt McGarry discusses newsletter advertising trends in 2024.
04:31 Summary: Discussion on sponsors tracking and email advertising.
06:52 Newsletter advertising remains consistent with 10-20 daily.
12:11 Pricing and value in sponsorship programs.
14:03 Increase multiples for highly engaged audiences.
18:23 Ad networks attempt unique, bespoke ad offerings.
20:15 Performance standards, payment for access, risk assumption.
25:32 "Customize ad pitch, avoid commoditization, discussion."
26:17 Understanding brand advertising and messaging for sales.
31:15 Relationship with audience determines product fit.
33:53 Build rapport before selling dedicated content.
37:33 Discount bundling increases sales and requires careful renewal.
42:01 Emphasis on sponsorship, data products, and expansion.
45:29 Events in NYC are expensive and need an audience.
46:31 Traditional publishers struggle with newsletter ad integration.
50:33 Request a screenshot of the podcast and email for an invite.
Links Mentioned
https://allaccess.newsletteroperator.com/
https://thenewsletterconference.com/
https://www.whosponsorsstuff.com/
matt@newsletteroperator.com
Matt and Ryan talk about behind-the-scenes and early-stage plans for building a newsletter in public, how to grow your agency through a newsletter, and more.
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 Building newsletter in public, early stages revealed.
05:20 Premium subscription launched early, aiming for revenue.
07:17 Experimenting with batching and weekly delivery. Consider monetizing from day one.
11:48 Challenges with paid marketing and growing channels.
13:36 Outline for landing page: Headline, letter, membership breakdown.
18:40 Public promotion key for organic media company growth.
19:32 Using faceless videos for better content discovery.
22:28 The coaching program requires daily short video filming.
25:52 LinkedIn expert advice: focus on broad content.
28:37 Confident about branding, content, and organic growth.
34:08 System and constraints shape consistent and habitual reading.
36:29 Local newsletters with smart brevity style. Numbered, easy to follow on mobile.
37:57 Alex Garcia's newsletters on influencer partnerships shine.
42:10 Visualizing simple things, and updating data for newsletters.
Matt and Ryan talk about how to sell out a cohort-based course, how to use newsletters to get and keep clients for service-based agencies, and much more.
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 Refind ads: easy setup, effective paid acquisition.
06:04 Sales exceeded expectations, and several units sold out.
09:02 Emphasize long-form sales pages in product promotion.
10:32 Two similar announcement broadcasts successfully sold the course.
14:13 Create an email list, and send targeted course promotions.
19:05 Utilize PS in email for important messages.
21:25 Easier to get testimonials for future courses.
23:26 Incentivized survey with $100 prize and bonus.
27:28 Service business provides more freedom and value.
30:22 Promote digital products, showcase expertise, and upsell.
33:34 Targeted newsletter ads create high conversion rates.
37:57 Create niche Twitter ads and share insights.
42:31 Leave a review on Apple/Spotify and subscribe with an email proof.
43:43 Podcast host seeks feedback to reach a wider audience.
Anik Singal is an entrepreneur, author, and expert in scaling education businesses.
Check out Anik's books and podcasts here: AnikSingal.com
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Timestamps
00:00 Choose digital product and sales method carefully.
06:50 Leverage small audiences for higher priced offers.
10:21 Forcing offers without audience interest always fails.
12:12 Answering questions, creating an FAQ, monetizing support.
14:48 Compliance market infatuates despite initial disinterest.
17:39 Streamlined installation process, captured and sold.
23:17 Low ticket pricing strategy for ad spend.
26:32 Quickly create low-ticket products using templates & AI.
30:23 Funnel engagement, low initial webinar attendance.
32:48 Extend funnel, increase sales by 30%.
35:50 Integration: Sendlane, Drip, stealth seminar, zapier.
40:47 Busy schedule, overlapping webinars, managing affiliates.
44:19 Presenting involves tech, passion, and valuable skills.
47:35 FTC investigation felt worse than a colonoscopy.
50:25 Learning, writing, and turning challenges into success.
51:39 New suite, certification, compliance marketing, book, audit.
54:43 Testimonial usage, disclosure, and court impact.
Eric Siu is the CEO of Single Grain and host of two successful podcasts: Marketing School and Leveling Up. These podcasts receive over 1 million downloads per month.
Follow Eric on Twitter: @ericosiu
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 Early podcasting success fueled by validation and education.
05:59 Content strategy should align with expertise and budget.
08:48 Daily marketing podcast successful with 2700 episodes.
11:28 Ads to the newsletter to value, not ads.
14:23 Starting an agency is challenging but rewarding.
16:31 Start side hustle, secure financial cushion first.
21:06 Strategic hiring in the US, referral recruiting.
24:46 Productized agencies offer clear and predictable services.
26:28 Maintaining quality and demand for creators is important.
31:29 Webinar on real-life AI use cases.
35:53 Monthly marketing content with unlimited options available.
36:45 Finding sponsors for your newsletter through titles.
42:18 Financial subscriptions, conferences, and high returns.
44:48 Powerful email sales strategy: ask for a reply.
46:25 Creating communities for learning and networking.
50:00 Stay focused, avoid distractions and reach success.
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Matt Paulson is the founder and CEO of MarketBeat. Matt’s media company and newsletter has over 4.3M subscribers and is on pace to do $40M in revenue this year.
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Episode Topics & Timestamps
00:00 About MarketBeat and Matt’s media company
05:14 Ad spend across Google, Bing, Facebook, and other channels
09:09 Working with agencies
11:46 Managing advertising through agencies, offers, and automation.
13:42 Hot stock trends drive high newsletter engagement.
17:28 Two big companies and smaller affiliates
20:56 The Financial publishing industry and the CPA model.
25:06 Investor relations, financial newsletters, CPA deals.
29:16 Dynamic offer rotation maximizes email campaign performance.
32:42 Multi-channel marketing maximizes message delivery effectiveness.
36:17 Email success depends on optimizing for sales.
36:59 Rising newsletter ads face potential sustainability issues.
40:44 Consider audience demographics, interests, then find affiliate program.
45:53 Marketbeat’s plans
47:23 Pioneering data-driven financial content creation
50:21 Where to find Matt online
Links Mentioned
MarketBeat.com
Twitter.com/MattPaulsonSD
Matt and Ryan talk about 5 newsletter business ideas. Plus, how to grow and monetize them.
Episode topics & Timestamps
00:00 Newsletter targeting Fortune 500 executives for news.
04:34 Create hyper relevant content for niche market.
06:57 High CPMs for well-defined executive audience.
12:53 Research-intensive content, provide templates, charge for value.
16:14 Curated finance memes drive engagement on Instagram.
19:19 Charter newsletter uses visuals and witty copy.
22:42 AI writing tool boosts creativity for writers.
23:34 Weekly summary of design and pricing trends.
27:23 Newsletter format: short, snippets, automate, historical lessons.
32:07 Sponsors and newsletter offer monetization challenges.
35:42 Podcast reviews books about influential people. Crazy network.
37:39 Building email list crucial for long-term success.
40:39 Opt for positive, non-crime local news.
43:14 Local writing can lead to access and recognition.
46:26 Increased interest in local business advertising benefits.
49:33 Seeking feedback and updates on shared ideas.
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Adam Ryan is the co-founder and CEO of WorkWeek, a B2B media company with 10+ newsletter publications and communities across various industries like healthcare, marketing, sales, HR, e-commerce, and fintech.
Episode topics & Timestamps
00:00 How WorkWeek started
05:04 Audience indicators and your ideal customer profile (ICP)
07:32 Slow, strategic growth trumps rushing into big projects.
10:19 Different business growth approaches have varying scalability and repeatability. Lifestyle businesses may benefit from an agency model, but for larger, scalable ventures, ongoing growth and compounding the business are crucial.
14:40 Approach to product development, growth metrics
17:32 Thoughts on newsletter recommendation networks
22:13 The email inbox is more sensitive
24:46 Paid ads
26:47 Maximizing existing audience potential
31:17 Acquiring newsletter subscribers and the potential trade-offs involved.
35:05 Focus on quality over quantity for newsletter subscribers.
36:34 Organic growth and subscriber engagement
40:14 Traditional media
43:35 Higher ad revenue, lower churn, better LTV
47:45 Prioritize audience, seek feedback, and consider time constraints.
50:24 How B2B lead generation works
Links Mentioned
WorkWeek.com
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Matt and Ryan talk about newsletter monetization, how to create and sell a front-end offer, webinars, polls, courses, and more.
Episode topics & Timestamps
00:00 Aligning monetization strategies enables sustainable and scalable growth.
06:21 Creating post subscription funnel to boost sales.
09:03 Curate and repurpose newsletter content for subscribers.
11:22 Identify problems, consumer needs, and create products.
16:26 Promoting course through webinars and email marketing.
18:50 Live course allows immediate Q&A interaction.
22:31 Testing successful outreach to high-ticket service businesses.
25:24 Share audience poll in outbound strategy for agencies.
28:28 Postponing deliverability discussion, Google policy updates, future episode.
Links Mentioned
Newsletter Growth System
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Wouter Teunissen is co-founder of OpenRates -- A tool that helps you find and convert newsletter sponsorships in your niche. Previously Wouter was the first salesperson at Milk Road.
Episode topics & Timestamps
(13:20) Cornerstone Resources for Marketing and Copywriting
(13:40) Importance of Authority in Newsletter Niche
(14:00) Creating a Personal Toolkit for Sales Success
(32:40) Automating the Sales Cycle with Databases
(32:52) Identifying the Right Contacts for Sponsorship Outreach
(40:40) Incentivizing Audiences with Surveys
(41:00) The Pillars of Effective Marketing and Sales Messages
(41:20) How to Follow Wouter Teunissen's Work
(41:34) How to Support the Newsletter Operator Podcast
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https://www.openrates.co/
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Tim Huelscamp is the co-founder & CEO of 1440 Media. In this podcast, Tim shares his strategies for scaling and monetizing newsletters, how 1440 reached over 3 million subscribers by delivering comprehensive, unbiased news, and much more.
Episode topics & Timestamps
(00:15) Guest Introduction
(00:42) 1440 in the media landscape, aimed at busy professionals desiring a comprehensive yet unbiased news source.
(01:49) 1440's foundation story, starting from frustration with existing news media, testing minimum viable product concepts, and the emphasis on high open rates and organic growth as evidence of product-market fit.
(04:33) 1440’s Audience & Demographics
(06:12) Retention and Engagement
(07:28) Creative Strategy & Growth Levers, discussion on the significance of high-quality, compelling creative work in driving subscriber growth
(20:25) Monetization Strategies
(39:42) Potential for Newsletter Market Saturation and the necessity for delivering high-quality content as the key differentiator for long-term success.
(44:41) Future of 1440
(52:51) Tim’s offer to assist rising newsletter creators by way of connecting and reflecting on the supportive nature of the newsletter community.
Links Mentioned:
Join1440.com
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Matt and Ryan interview Brett Perlmutter, co-founder of BulletPitch, a startup newsletter turned media company. They discuss the company's origin, mission, and audience engagement metrics. Brett shares growth strategies and revenue models.
Episode topics & Timestamps
(00:25) Introduction and brief overview of BulletPitch, motivation behind starting BulletPitch
(02:25) the rapid growth of BulletPitch and the audience size
(05:25) how BulletPitch measures audience engagement through polls and investor introductions
(08:49) the ratio of growth from Twitter ads, organic sharing, referrals, and word of mouth
(12:18) Discussion on the strategy of Twitter ads and what makes a good ad
(23:15) The Business model of Bulletpitch
(27:00) Launching BulletPitch Plus
(35:48) Insights on newsletter saturation
(41:49) Monetization challenges faced by newsletters
(45:09) Brett shares his experience with hosting events and the value of in-person interactions for newsletter subscribers
Links mentioned:
https://twitter.com/BrettPerlmutter
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Justin Moore is a sponsorship coach and the founder of Creator Wizard, a school and community that teaches you how to find and negotiate your dream brand deals.
Join Justin's newsletter for sponsorship opportunities.
Episode topics & Timestamps
(00:40) Justin’s journey and experience with sponsorships, introduction and background
(03:00) overview of the media side of the business
(09:00) Growth sources and strategies for building an audience for the newsletter.
(16:00) Monetization strategies, including sponsorships, courses, and coaching.
(25:00) Transitioning to evergreen course offerings and the impact on revenue.
(30:00) Tips for standing out and securing sponsors in a crowded market.
(45:00) Offering different sponsorship packages and being flexible based on sponsors' goals.
(48:00) Generating demand and pitching sponsors effectively.
Links Mentioned
https://www.creatorwizard.com/join
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In this podcast, Matt and Ryan provide valuable insights into various topics related to effectively running newsletters, membership programs, and courses. They discuss the challenges of monetizing your newsletter and explore various marketing channels while giving actionable strategies aimed at helping you succeed in the newsletter industry.
Episode topics & Timestamps
(1:22) Selling memberships and courses as monetization strategies and success stories of membership models
(02:12) Insights on growth for Trend.co and using free newsletter lists to convert into memberships/courses
(03:09) Tactics in converting newsletter subscriptions to paid memberships and he process of subscriber acquisition and conversion
(4:30) Utilizing gated website content for subscriber engagement
(05:31) The importance of targeted messaging in newsletters
(6:23) Diving into email marketing tactics and Free newsletter strategies for driving revenue
(09:54) Using various marketing channels for selling Trend.co subscriptions
(10:54) Comparing YouTube and Instagram influencer marketing effectiveness
(11:40) Discussing the best channels for membership growth and strategies for selecting influencers based on CPM and demographics
(15:52) Industry benchmarks for influencer marketing CPMs and the potential of underpriced attention in marketing
(20:49) Organizing newsletter sponsorships as an emerging service
(21:38) The ease of using Beehive's ad marketplace for newsletter ads
(23:26) Exploring alternative social networks and newsletters like Rumble and Passionfruit
(25:31) Organic growth advantages of Substack's recommendation engine
(27:12) Concerns about Substack's long-term viability
(30:46) Predicting the future challenges Substack might face
(31:37) Discussing the limitations of Substack as a platform for newsletter growth
Links Mentioned:
https://tailwindstudio.co/
https://www.newsletteroperator.com/
Episode Description:
In this episode, Matt and Ryan discuss the growing shift towards newsletters in the media landscape. They delve into the challenges faced by traditional media companies, emphasizing how newsletters offer an owned audience and help drive revenue and encourage engagement. They also explore the potential of newsletters for creators, including entertainment-based creators and e-commerce brands. Additionally, they touch on topics such as nurturing email lists, unlocking revenue streams, and the need for valuable content.
Key Topics Covered:
Episode topics & Timestamps:
(00:26) Introduction and Overview
(2:21) Challenges for Big Media Companies
(3:01) Decline in Social Media Traffic
(11:09) Media Companies And Newsletter Strategy
(11:40) Newsletter First Approach
(12:38) Importance of having an owned audience
(18:40) Strategies for Entertainment Creators
(28:00) Tailwind Newsletter Services
(30:00) Upcoming Discussion Topics
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Episode Description:
In this episode, Matt and Ryan discuss the current state of newsletters and delve into the debate of whether there is a newsletter bubble. They address the concerns about the saturation of newsletters and the need to stand out in a competitive market. The discussion also focuses on the changing landscape of newsletter monetization, particularly the shift from CPM-based pricing to a cost-per-click model. They emphasize the importance of building an engaged and valuable audience and explore the potential for acquiring newsletters as a growth strategy.
Episode key topics and timestamps:
Introduction and Podcast Overview
(00:26) Purpose of the podcast, discussing newsletter building, growth, and monetization
Discussion on the Newsletter Bubble
(00:43 - 00:06:26) Debate on the existence of a newsletter bubble and address common concerns
(06:27 - 00:17:40) Analysis of the monetization challenges and evolving advertising models
Acquisition and Transfer of Newsletters
(19:00 - 00:25:00) Importance of acquiring and merging newsletters to expand audience and grow lists
(25:01 - 00:28:11) Process and strategies for successfully transferring subscribers and maintaining engagement
Newsletters as a Growth Strategy
(28:12 - 30:14) Highlighting the value of newsletters as marketing funnels and effective communication channels
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In this episode of the Newsletter Operator Podcast, Jon Elder, the founder of Black Label Advisor, shares his journey from commercial construction to building a successful consultancy in the Amazon space. He started a side gig by launching his first brand on Amazon, which eventually led to the creation of the newsletter "Amazon Insiders." The newsletter focuses on the niche community of Amazon sellers and has seen rapid growth to over 15,000 subscribers.
Key Topics Covered:
Episode topics & Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction to Newsletter Operator Podcast
(00:30) Introduction of Jon Elder, founder of Black Label Advisor
(01:00) Jon's Background and Entrepreneurial Journey
(2:00) Launching Amazon Insiders Newsletter
(3:00) Defining Micro Niche
(5:00) Choosing a Newsletter Topic
(6:00) Growth Strategies and Subscriber Acquisition
(7:00) The Role of SparkLoop in Subscriber Growth
(11:00)Additional Growth Channels such as Twitter
(16:00) The Use of a Mastermind Group for Engagement
(19:00) Monetization through Newsletter Sponsorships
(28:00) Approach to Identifying and Reaching Out to Sponsors
(33:00) Pricing and Packaging of Newsletter Ads
(33:00)Strategies for Achieving Growth Goals
(41:00) Advice for those Starting a Niche B2B Newsletter
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Kieran Drew is a writer and entrepreneur who shares writing strategies to help grow your online business.
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Jay Clouse is the founder of Creator Science, a media company that helps people succeed as professional content creators.
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Over 80,000 founders read Houck's Newsletter to learn how to build, grow, and raise capital for their startups.
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Emanuel Cinca is the founder of StackedMarketer, a marketing newsletter with over 50,000 subscribers.
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Ryan Sneddon is the founder of Naptown Scoop, a local newsletter covering Annapolis, Maryland.
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Ethan Brooks leads community and content for Hampton and was previously a senior writer at The Hustle and Trends.co
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Marketing Max is the founder of GrowthDaily, a marketing newsletter read by over 60,000 founders, CEOs, and marketers.
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Chenell Basilio is the founder of Growth In Reverse. Each week she reverse engineers how top creators get to 50k+ subscribers, so you can replicate their growth.
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