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Nevermind the Music

The podcast about the songs you love and why you love them! Join us each week as two friends, one a music professor and one a psychology professor, hang out and deep dive about one iconic song. Laugh and learn with us about songwriting, the brain, and pop culture.

Send us your thoughts at NeverMusicPod@gmail.com and check us out on social media @NeverMusicPod

Join the Nevermind the Music Discord channel by visiting https://discord.gg/xdN4XCdtxU or thelorehounds.com

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Nevermind the Music is published by the Lorehounds

Copyright: © copyright (c) 2024 Mark Popeney and Nichole Vatcher. All rights reserved.

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‘Levitating’ by Dua Lipa and Modular Melodic Personalities Feb 11, 2025

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Are we shining just the way we are? Here we piece apart Dua Lipa’s 2020 dance-pop gem “Levitating” and see how much the writing process matters. Mark stacks up the idea that this song’s melody seems to be built of tiny lego bricks rearranged in an infectious pattern. Meanwhile, Nichole relates this way of looking at things to personality trait theory - can Mark accurately self-diagnose his personality type or is it just wishful thinking?

Other music heard in this episode: Dua Lipa - "Don't Start Now", Devo - "Whip It", Nirvana - "On a Plain", Philip Glass - “Dance 1” from "Einstein on the Beach", Cory Day - "Wiggle and Giggle All Night", Artikal Sound System - "Live Your Life"

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Sidetrack - Tackling Tough Topics in Class Feb 04, 2025

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Should we share our opinions with our students? Here we finally talk through those tricky and controversial conversations that sometimes come up in class - and our role in them. Join us next week for a full episode!

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‘I’m Sprung’ by T-Pain and We’re All Missing the Point About Auto-Tune Jan 28, 2025

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Why was anybody surprised that T-Pain was a great singer? We shouldn’t have been. In this episode we tune to T-Pain’s debut single, 2005’s “I’m Sprung.” We deep dive on auto-tune and how this song shows how much music culture underestimated T-Pain back when he first came on to the scene. Also: shawty!

Other music heard in this episode: T-Pain - “Buy U a Drank (Shawty Snappin')”, Billie Holiday - “Strange Fruit”, Kanye West - “Love Lockdown”, The Velvet Underground - “I’m Waiting For the Man”, fun. - “Some Nights”, Toadies - “Possum Kingdom”, Billie Eilish - “Bad Guy”

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Sidetrack - The 2025 Grammy Awards Jan 21, 2025

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Is Taylor going to grab #5? In this sidetrack, we go deep on the eight records nominated for “Album of the Year” at the 2025 Grammys. Listen with us as Mark and Nichole choose their champions and guess which artists will come away with the top honors in this year’s music industry love-fest. Check us out next week for a normal episode!

Music Heard in this episode: André 3000 - “BuyPoloDisorder's Daughter Wears a 3000® Shirt Embroidered”, Chappell Roan - “Super Graphic Ultra Modern Girl”, Chappell Roan - “My Kink is Karma”, Jacob Collier - “Summer Rain”, Jacob Collier - “Wellll”, Beyoncé - “Riiverdance”, Beyoncé - “Alligator Tears”, Beyoncé - “II Hands II Heaven”, Sabrina Carpenter - “Espresso”, Sabrina Carpenter - “Juno”, Billie Eilish - “Birds of a Feather”, Billie Eilish - “The Greatest”, Charli XCX - “So I”, Charli XCX - “I Think About it All the Time”, Taylor Swift - “Clara Bow”, Taylor Swift - “thanK you aIMee”

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‘Everybody Talks’ by Neon Trees and Tense Rumors Jan 14, 2025

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Why does Mama always gotta back-track? We nose our way into Neon Trees’ 2011 banger “Everybody Talks.” While Nichole ponders the subconscious id, Mark breaks down how this song has a tremendously tense build up to its explosive hook.

Other music heard in this episode: Temple of the Dog - "Hunger Strike," Temple of the Dog - "Say Hello 2 Heaven," The Left Banke - "Walk Away Rene", The Left Banke - "Pretty Ballerina," Another Bad Creation - "Iesha," Another Bad Creation - "Playground," The Beatles - "Across the Universe", Beyonce - "Ego", The Police - "Message in a Bottle", MGMT - "Electric Feel"

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Sidetrack - Season 1 Mailbag 1 Jan 07, 2025

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What makes us hate a particular song? What’s the best possible beginning to a mixtape? In this episode, we finally dive in and answer listener questions! Come back next week for a full episode!

Music heard in this episode: Gracie Abrams - “That’s So True”, Linkin Park - “Casualty”

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‘Defying Gravity’ from Wicked and Holding Space for add9 Chords Dec 31, 2024

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Don’t you love that “misunderstood villain” song sung by Idina Menzel? Wait… which one? In this episode, we follow the yellow brick road to the iconic “Defying Gravity” from the 2003 musical and 2024 film “Wicked.” While Nichole wants to talk about important things like empowerment and social movements, Mark has his ears fixed on one of the most iconic sounds of the musicals of the 90s and 2000s.

Other music heard in this episode: “Seasons of Love” from Rent, “Over the Moon” from Rent, “Without You” from Rent, “Wicked Little Town” from Hedwig and the Angry Inch, “Falling Slowly” from Once, “Superboy and the Invisible Girl” from Next to Normal, “Wait for It” from Hamilton

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Sidetrack - Culture Shock and Why Nichole Hates California Dec 24, 2024

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Ever moved from Nashville to L.A.? Mark and Nichole reminisce about their big moves and the big changes they brought. Nichole somehow finds a way to bring the conversation to a big California-bashing session. Cheap shot, Nichole, cheap shot. Be sure to join us next week for a full episode!

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‘Party in the U.S.A.’ by Miley Cyrus and Pentatonic Life Transitions Dec 17, 2024

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Are you nodding your head like, yeah? In this episode, we sing along to Miley Cyrus’ 2009 anthem “Party in the U.S.A.” While Nichole breaks down the cultural relativism of a big life change, Mark talks through how the song packs so much punch through the pairing of two different scales: the major and the pentatonic. And a Britney song was on!

Other music heard in this episode: ‘Weird Al’ Yankovic - "Party in the CIA", ‘Weird Al’ Yankovic - "Achy Breaky Song," Los Bohemios de Cuzco - "Wasimasillay", Matt Mallow and Sean Keane - "George White's Favourite," Giovanni Kiyingi - "Ekibbobbo", Katy Perry - "Roar," Pink - "Raise Your Glass," The Weeknd - "The Hills,"

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Sidetrack - Absurdly Specific Supergroups Dec 10, 2024

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How hot are keyboard players? In this absolutely serious and academic discussion, we dream up two musical supergroups. Rigorous standards of consistency were certainly upheld! Listen next week for a full episode!

Music heard in this episode: Nickel Creek - "Somebody More Like You", Red Hot Chili Peppers - "Breaking the Girl", Taylor Swift - "Out of the Woods", Carole King - "You've Got a Friend", Taylor Swift - "Wildest Dream," Haim - "Gasoline," The Descendants - "When I Get Old," Rancid - "Maxwell Murder," Bad Religion - "God Song", NOFX - "Moron Bros."

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