Stay ConnectedPaul Rose aka the musician, DJ, and label boss known as Scuba talks to people of significance from the world of electronic music about their experiences, observations, and attempts to cultivate a life for themselves in the murky and sometimes treacherous waters of the music industry.
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Recorded during the 2025 edition of Amsterdam Dance Event, this episode is sponsored by Jägermeister's Save The Night.
Born in 2020 as an emergency response to the pandemic, Save The Night has grown into a global platform that supports the people and ideas keeping nightlife alive.
Through its annual Fund, Jägermeister provides €156,000 in funding, mentorship and visibility to bold projects - from making dancefloors more accessible, to pioneering greener club nights, to amplifying voices from grassroots creative communities.
Applications are now open for the Save The Night Fund. If you're a creative, a promoter, a venue owner, or simply passionate about building safer, more inclusive, and more sustainable nights, this is your chance to bring your vision to life. Check out jagermeister.com/exploration/save-the-night
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Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!
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Mixtress is a London-based DJ and producer from Amsterdam known for her versatile sets that blend genres like UK hardcore, jungle, bassweight, techno, and dubstep. Raised with a strong musical foundation, she has performed at major venues like Printworks and Fabric, appeared on platforms such as Boiler Room, and holds resident DJ spots at Rinse FM and The Cause London.
We discuss her dance music roots in Amsterdam and London, the changing nature of DJs and their careers, notable DJ beefs, and the influence of Colin Faver.
This is the fourth and final of our recordings at ADE, thanks for listening! Back on regular episodes next week.
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If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
Chapters:
00:00 brought to you by Acid Nation
02:36 Episode start
03:02 Amsterdam origins
04:36 Majestic Casual era
06:04 Lapalux shaping her taste
09:00 University, Joy Orbison and dBridge
12:10 Major events shaping music
14:30 Cancel culture
17:14 Are there too many DJs?
19:00 Hustle mindset infiltrating club culture
23:07 Edit culture and TikTok trends
24:15 Defining her style
26:35 Realising she's a 'proper DJ'
29:03 COVID era and radio shows
30:43 Scene rebuilding
32:49 Post-COVID behaviours
37:20 Can the scene autocorrect itself?
40:03 Warm-up sets and etiquette
41:30 The big rant
43:35 Favourite parties to play
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Recorded during the 2025 edition of Amsterdam Dance Event, this episode is sponsored by Jägermeister's Save The Night.
Born in 2020 as an emergency response to the pandemic, Save The Night has grown into a global platform that supports the people and ideas keeping nightlife alive.
Through its annual Fund, Jägermeister provides €156,000 in funding, mentorship and visibility to bold projects - from making dancefloors more accessible, to pioneering greener club nights, to amplifying voices from grassroots creative communities.
Applications are now open for the Save The Night Fund. If you're a creative, a promoter, a venue owner, or simply passionate about building safer, more inclusive, and more sustainable nights, this is your chance to bring your vision to life. Check out jagermeister.com/exploration/save-the-night
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Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!
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Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving
Sofia Ilyas is currently Beatport's Chief Community Officer, formerly a key figure at the Erased Tapes label, and an important force in the emergence of ambient/neoclassical superstar Nils Frahm.
We discuss her upbringing and subsequent escape from a highly conservative family in Wales, discovering electronic music in her late 20s, and eventual career in the industry.
This is a fascinating and unexpected conversation - get involved!
This is the third of our four recordings at ADE, the final one will be along shortly!
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If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
Chapters:
00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation
02:40 Intro
03:35 The Role of Chief Community Officer
05:40 Loneliness, creativity & connection
07:55 Changing Beatport’s culture
09:40 Building a role from scratch
11:10 Beatport’s redemption
14:23 Early life in Cardiff
15:31 Escaping ultraconservatism
19:45 Temple life
21:36 Discovering club culture
25:16 Meeting Nils Frahm
27:36 The rise of Erased Tapes
30:08 Creative experiments
32:15 Leaving Erased Tapes
35:00 Saying No and authenticity
40:24 Joining Beatport
41:30 Loneliness, grief & identity
44:20 Coaching the next generation
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Recorded during the 2025 edition of Amsterdam Dance Event, this episode is sponsored by Jägermeister's Save The Night.
Born in 2020 as an emergency response to the pandemic, Save The Night has grown into a global platform that supports the people and ideas keeping nightlife alive.
Through its annual Fund, Jägermeister provides €156,000 in funding, mentorship and visibility to bold projects - from making dancefloors more accessible, to pioneering greener club nights, to amplifying voices from grassroots creative communities.
Applications are now open for the Save The Night Fund. If you're a creative, a promoter, a venue owner, or simply passionate about building safer, more inclusive, and more sustainable nights, this is your chance to bring your vision to life. Check out jagermeister.com/exploration/save-the-night
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Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!
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Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving
Dot Major is half of NIGHT manoeuvres (with ABSOLUTE), who are releasing via fabric's label. And he is also a member of London Grammar, one of the better bands to emerge from the UK in the last decade or so.
We discuss his gradual journey into electronic music, what it's like breaking through in a big way, and some of the unusual things he's got up to along the way.
This is the second of our four recordings at ADE, the next one will be along shortly!
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If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
Chapters:
00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation
02:40 Intro
03:00 Missing moderator
04:11 The birth of NIGHT manoeuvres
05:16 Playing the Crane at ADE
06:31 Musical roots
09:30 HYPH MNGO and Dubstep
12:00 The roots of London Grammar
14:24 Blending live and electronic worlds
17:00 DJing, skill, and the soul of performance
20:06 Technology always wins
24:06 Baptism of fire at Printworks
28:03 Ibiza memories & the Lynx Africa hot tub
31:00 NIGHT manoeuvres from studio to stage
33:15 Gear talk
36:00 AI talk and the future of music
41:11 Favourite Dance albums
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Recorded during the 2025 edition of Amsterdam Dance Event.
This episode is sponsored by Jägermeister's Save The Night.
Born in 2020 as an emergency response to the pandemic, Save The Night has grown into a global platform that supports the people and ideas keeping nightlife alive.
Through its annual Fund, Jägermeister provides €156,000 in funding, mentorship and visibility to bold projects - from making dancefloors more accessible, to pioneering greener club nights, to amplifying voices from grassroots creative communities.
Applications are now open for the Save The Night Fund. If you're a creative, a promoter, a venue owner, or simply passionate about building safer, more inclusive, and more sustainable nights, this is your chance to bring your vision to life. Check out jagermeister.com/exploration/save-the-night
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Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!
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Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving
The first of four conversations recorded at ADE last week.
Joris Voorn is a key figure in Dutch house and techno, and actually the genre as a whole.
Releasing albums since 2004, he's been a fixture on the biggest stages for basically the entirety of the intervening period, and carved out a distinctive sound without ever pandering to the fashions of the day.
He's also thoroughly nice chap who talks very well about the music and culture that surrounds it.
Stay tuned for the other three conversations coming over the course of the next couple of weeks.
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If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
Chapters:
02:30 Intro
04:18 ADE & Amsterdam
06:15 Ibiza: Then vs. Now
10:53 Genres
14:35 Minimal was a shockwave
16:27 Albums & consistency
19:50 “I thought you needed a 303 to make Techno”
23:57 Carl Cox the kingmaker
26:08 “All the music I made, probably 1% got released”
34:00 Creative change and backlash
36:10 ‘Serotonin’ and personal loss
38:09 The songwriting process
44:00 “You can’t tell if it’s AI or Human anymore”
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Perc is one of modern techno's reference points: an internationally touring DJ and live act, founder of the scene-leading Perc Trax label and one of the most respected producers in techno today.
We discuss his early period of hardware experimentation, the birth of Perc the artist project as well as the Perc Trax label, recent developments in techno, and the evolution of his sound.
This is a crucial conversation with one of the absolute key figures in the history of UK techno. Get involved!
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If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
Chapters:
00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation
02:23 Perc
04:27 Techno DJing today
06:26 A weekend of cancellations
07:24 Tresor and Techno
11:26 Berghain reflections
18:39 Early life & musical roots
21:13 From Metal bands to machines
26:35 Studying Music Production
36:07 The birth of Perc
39:59 Working at Prime
48:01 Collapse of vinyl's golden age
50:58 Life after Prime
55:50 Learning the label game
59:30 Nucleus records and gaming the charts
01:05:30 Perctrax
01:09:00 Social media, hype, and longevity
01:13:25 Mentoring challenges
01:16:40 Tiptoeing around Hard Techno
01:24:43 The worst thing for Perctrax
01:26:00 Best Techno parties now
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A boycott is the end of a conversation, not the start.
On Music Not Diving this week, we discuss whether Spotify is such an exceptional case of evil that it deserves be made an example of, or whether there might be another platform, for instance one owned by a Communist dictatorship, which might better fit the bill.
And we give thanks to Cory Doctorow for his theoretical underpinning to the episode, which also features in the title!
Chapters:
00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation
04:00 Enshittification
13:27 The Napster era
18:40 Is Spotify a special case?
25:00 AI music in streaming
31:15 Tiktok is a music streamer
37:55 The real problem is distribution
41:45 Do labels still add value?
Honestly this could easily have been twice as long and there are many issues which are omitted or insufficiently covered... but it took nearly a whole day to record and edit and that's about the limit of my pay grade!
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If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
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DJ Bone is a legend of Detroit techno, and previous guest on the original version of this show, episode 73 of the Not A Diving Podcast.
We discuss the latest goings on between Motor City and his adopted home of Amsterdam, his recent album The End Of Never... and whether DJs really need to learn how to beatmatch.
A welcome return from one of our favourite guests in the history of the show!
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If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
Chapters:
00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation
03:00 DJ Bone
05:18 “Professor Bone time”
07:01 Prince, Mojo & the birth of Detroit Techno loyalty
012:26 “People forgot how to rave”
15:30 Creeping commercialisation
21:00 Music and distribution
23:15 10,000 vinyl records
30:20 Beatmatching is DJing 101
35:49 The next gen and mentorship
41:03 “They're too worried about a career before they hone their craft”
47:00 Music is therapy and the album process
57:00 Playing your own music out
62:00 Detroit vs the world
01:06:10 Aphex Twins and Moodymann
01:11:00 Techno is political
01:22:30 Homeless homies
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Paul Ćinske is the man behind every single booking at the most important club in the history of techno (maybe)... Tresor.
We discuss the current state of the Berlin scene, the changes since the trauma of the pandemic, his role at the venue in detail, the importance of one person steering the creative ship of a club like Tresor... and much else besides.
We haven't had anything quite like this on the show before, and Paul does not disappoint!
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If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
02:00 Paul Ćinske
04:22 That classic Berlin cliche
08:22 Future Music and the Melbourne scene
09:00 Berlin’s clubbing landscape
11:48 First impressions of Berlin
14:45 Berlin = Techno city
17:25 Small venues and the ecosystem
21:50 Has raving in a dark room become less attractive?
25:00 Less stigma with older ravers
31:10 Ticketing culture vs. Berlin’s door policy
35:05 If FWD was down to ticket figures…
38:30 Working as Tresor’s booker
46:00 OM is the great humbler
47:30 Tresor’s reopening & post-pandemic recovery
54:02 Creative direction of Tresor
01:04:00 Legacy, identity & the future
01:09:30 Büro Siebzig
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Returning guest Darren Hemmings is a music marketing expert and the founder of a creative marketing agency specialising in music called Motive Unknown.
He's also the author of the excellent Network Notes Substack.
How do you break through in 2025? How do you even get your music heard? These problems are as pertinent for acts signed to big labels as it is for people just starting out.
Is streaming a problem? And what is the role of labels today? We address all these things and much more besides in a vital conversation for anyone with even a passing interest in music, the industry, and the development of culture in today’s big tech- dominated world.
This is a great conversation with a returning guest who will definitely be on the show again!
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If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
Chapters:
02:41 Intro
04:34 Music marketing: constantly changing… or just copycatting?
07:59 The Death of Monoculture
12:30 Why do labels exist anymore?
14:35 Labels as a nexus point
18:05 Big Tech hates teenage girls
20:07 Music is worth… nothing
22:07 Flood the market with crap
26:10 Sorry, but not everyone’s an artist
27:13 Raves without phones
29:55 The “S” word
35:53 The importance of local scenes
39:20 What does change look like
44:46 Déjà Vu: The next music industry collapse
48:23 Oasis, K-Pop, and the price of nostalgia
55:00 Did Indie labels blow their shot?
56:05 Private equity, KKR and boycotting
01:04:21 The role of journalism and criticism
01:08:14 Is Gen Z missing out?
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Jamz Supernova is one of the UK’s most respected DJs and broadcasters. Best known for her shows on BBC Radio 1Xtra and BBC 6 Music, she's built a reputation as a champion of forward-thinking sounds, spanning R&B, future soul, club music, and the global underground.
Beyond her broadcasting career, Jamz is also the founder of Future Bounce, the label and club brand that has become a platform for innovative new talent. From curating radio shows and festival stages to running her own imprint, she has established herself as a key voice shaping the conversation around contemporary music in the UK and beyond.
We discuss her experiences in broadcasting, the various ways people find their way in music careers, and what it's like being a judge on the Mercury Music Prize.
Get involved!
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If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
03:10 Podcast vs. Radio
06:30 Getting into the industry
09:52 Influences and aspirations
12:03 Deptford, Millwall and gentrification
13:48 Radio does nothing for kids
18:20 The biggest challenge for artists
18:44 2008 Financial crash and DIY Hustle
19:57 Starting at 1Xtra
26:40 Black British Music in the mainstream
30:02 “You shouldn’t like everything I play”
34:26 Brit School
40:35 UK Funky, Dubstep and Rinse
44:44 Traumatic first DJ gig
49:14 “I’m never mixing RnB and Hip-Hop”
53:17 Gilles Peterson
56:00 Being a multi-genre DJ
59:03 Bridging Radio and Club audiences
01:03:40 The homogenisation of production
01:07:50 Being a Mercury Prize judge
01:13:50 The genius of Dizzee Rascal
01:15:42 Artistic freedom
01:16:55 Predjudice and Radio 6
01:20:08 3 Biggest tunes of the Summer
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