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    Music Not Diving with Scuba

    Paul Rose aka the musician, DJ, and label boss known as Scuba talks to people of significance from the world of electronic music about their experiences, observations, and attempts to cultivate a life for themselves in the murky and sometimes treacherous waters of the music industry.


    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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    Latest Episodes:
    #38 Are musicians cheating with AI? And is the DJ/Producer model broken? Jan 28, 2026
    Show notes

    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!


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    Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    Following on from the 'End Of Recorded Music?' episode, this week we take a look at some of the surrounding issues. This is the first time I've done a solo episode speaking to camera and there are some inconsistencies which show up in the audio... check out the video version of this episode on YouTube (or if you're on Spotify then it'll be available here too).


    --

    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    #037 Sister Bliss: Faithless after Maxi, raving in the 90s, and the power of a global hit Jan 21, 2026
    Show notes

    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!


    --

    Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    Sister Bliss is the musical driving force behind one of the biggest dance acts of all time - Faithless.


    We discuss her early period as a DJ, linking up with Rollo and launching Cheeky Records from home, meeting the late, great Maxi Jazz and forming Faithless. And of course we get into the hits and the differing process of music making over the years.


    This is a great conversation with a true legend of UK music!


    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    03:00 Sister Bliss

    05:10 Releasing music now vs then

    07:05 Champion sound & the double-album idea

    09:15 Invisible gatekeepers

    10:35 Forever Free, Maxi & the meaning of freedom

    12:10 Vinyl culture & record-shop life

    23:30 Early musical influences

    29:45 The cassette demo that changed everything

    31:10 Camden studios, sushi & late nights

    33:00 Meeting Maxi

    36:40 DJing, dropping out & taking the leap

    41:10 Cheeky Records

    48:00 Making the first album

    55:30 Making music now: tools, plugins & overload

    01:00:40 The future of creativity

    01:02:45 Memory, archives & coming full circle


    --

    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    03:00 Sister Bliss

    05:10 Releasing music now vs then

    07:05 Champion sound & the double-album idea

    09:15 Invisible gatekeepers

    10:35 Forever Free, Maxi & the meaning of freedom

    12:10 Vinyl culture & record-shop life

    23:30 Early musical influences

    29:45 The cassette demo that changed everything

    31:10 Camden studios, sushi & late nights

    33:00 Meeting Maxi

    36:40 DJing, dropping out & taking the leap

    41:10 Cheeky Records

    48:00 Making the first album

    55:30 Making music now: tools, plugins & overload

    01:00:40 The future of creativity

    01:02:45 Memory, archives & coming full circle

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    #036 Johnno Burgess: Bugged Out founder on how to run a rave brand for 30 years Jan 14, 2026
    Show notes

    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!


    --

    Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    Bugged Out is one of the UK's best-loved and most enduring club brands. From humble beginnings in Manchester, through Sankeys, Cream in Liverpool, fabric and The End in London, right the way through to their enormous 30th birthday at the 15k capacity Drumsheds in London, this is a promotion that has consistently done things right in terms of the music and the vibe.


    Johnno Burgess is one of the co-founders, and also the former editor of the legendary Jockey Slut magazine which originally launched the night that became Bugged Out.

    We discuss the history of the event with its many successes and occasional failures, the changing landscape over the last 30 years, how they booked Daft Punk for free, and we also get into the golden era of the dance press and how it looks in the current era.


    This is a great conversation with a relatively unsung hero of UK dance culture. Get involved!


    Grab the new Bugged Out book here


    --

    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    02:13 Episode start

    02:50 Bugged Out at 30

    04:54 Changing fashion on the floor

    07:28 The golden age of dance music journalism

    12:45 Influencers are the new fanzines

    18:08 The birth of Jockey Slut

    24:00 From magazine to club night

    27:30 The Manchester club scene

    30:49 Closure of clubs and pop-up spaces

    36:10 Trust and curation

    44:12 Nation, Cream and Liverpool

    47:20 First Bugged Out Weekender

    52:30 Festival curation

    55:00 Moving away from Liverpool

    59:05 The End - 8 defining years

    01:02:00 When clubs started disappearing

    01:03:30 Drumsheds, Printworks and mega-rooms

    01:05:50 The role of private equity

    01:13:00 Highs and lows

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    #035 Jagz Kooner: Weatherall, Sabres Of Paradise, and quitting while you're ahead Jan 08, 2026
    Show notes

    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!


    --

    Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    The Sabres Of Paradise were formed in 1992 by Andrew Weatherall, Gary Burns, and our guest on today's episode Jagz Kooner. They burned brightly but briefly, initially disbanding in 1995, but have now reformed (without the late Weatherall) for what Jagz says will be a limited time.


    We discuss the story of the Sabres, but also Jagz' wider career which covers a lot of ground as a remixer and producer. And we also get into his thoughts on today's scene, and the changes in music making he's witnessed in four decades making tunes.


    This is a good one!


    --

    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    02:13 Episode start

    02:44 Sabres reunion

    08:45 Playing Sydney Opera House

    11:38 From seated silence to dancing chaos

    13:05 This song changed lives

    15:58 Post-Sabres life

    17:06 Early DJ roots

    21:36 Machines over bands

    25:45 A very Jagz birthday

    29:24 This machine will change the world

    36:02 The bootleg that changed everything

    37:30 Andrew Weatherall

    45:00 Touring and burnout

    47:30 After the split

    50:00 Producing for others

    59:30 Legacy and influence

    01:03:00 The meaning of the reunion

    01:07:00 Honouring Andrew Weatherall

    01:11:00 Looking forward

    01:15:00 Advice for young producers

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    The unfolding AI debate: the End Of Recorded Music? Jan 05, 2026
    Show notes

    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!


    --

    Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    This is a re-up of a podcast we released in mid-2023 which sought to set the table for what was then the coming debate on AI in music and the wider socio-economic world.

    It's worth returning to because it covers the big issues that I anticipate will be covered on the podcast this coming year, and takes a look at some of the initial intuitions coming into this highly weird period of human history.


    This stuff isn't going anywhere, and it poses serious questions for what the music industry is for. What are musicians doing making music in this environment? What's the purpose of music in of itself?


    These are questions I have been asking myself over the last few weeks, and there are no easy answers...


    --

    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    02:30 AI in music and art

    12:20 Possible developments

    17:13 Ethics in art

    22:21 Music's cultural decline

    27:06 The capitalist bogeyman

    29:35 Identity vs music

    43:21 Is all this just moaning?

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    #034 Twenty-Twenty-Five and all that Dec 31, 2025
    Show notes

    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!


    --

    Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    A review of some of the stuff that happened in the Year of Our Lord, 2025.


    Percy Digs instagram as mentioned: https://www.instagram.com/percydigs?igsh=MXM3OGJ0OW9rZDMzbA==


    All other links and more info on this episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/best-of-2025-147063099


    --

    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    02:50 Track of the year

    04:45 Conclusions of the year

    15:20 Album of the year

    18:46 Book (fiction)

    22:00 Book (nonfiction)

    25:14 Podcast episode

    26:47 Nightclub

    30:02 Forgotten Hard Rock album

    33:06 Best gig

    36:56 Streaming platform

    40:25 Worst album of the year

    41:23 Worst track of the year

    42:00 Coming up in 2026

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    #033 Kazim: artist manager on how to get ears on your music in the streaming era Dec 17, 2025
    Show notes

    PLEDGE DRIVE 2025 - all new subscribers to the Musicality tier on Patreon will get a Not A Diving Club t-shirt in your size of choice, delivered to your door completely free of charge!

    Full details.


    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!


    --

    Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    Kazim is an artist manager whose clients include Nightmares On Wax, and also the chief creative and brand officer at RA.


    We discuss the mechanics of creative campaigns for new and legacy artists, the challenge of breaking new music, and the different obstacles in the way of older acts. We also discuss the music media landscape and the role of media in today's industry.


    This is a rare chance to get the inside track on artist management and big music media platforms... get involved!


    Music discussed in the episode…

    https://jitwam.bandcamp.com

    https://anaiis.bandcamp.com

    https://saultglobal.bandcamp.com

    https://nightmaresonwax.bandcamp.com


    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    02:13 Episode start

    04:52 Artist management vs. media platforms

    07:55 Death of middle class in music

    11:35 Successful artists can't tour

    14:39 Everyone’s a DJ Now

    17:38 Can albums still take years to break through?

    21:08 Great music always shines through

    24:04 100,000 songs a day

    27:09 Going viral is the wrong goal

    30:46 Success without social media

    33:14 Word of mouth over algorithms

    35:30 It’s always been a slog

    39:00 Maintaining a legacy of an artist

    45:00 Power in the catalogue

    55:00 Working for Warp Records

    01:01:35 Fans vs. listeners

    01:03:20 Chasing the algorithm is not the way

    01:04:50 Working at RA

    01:12:08 The state of Berlin


    --

    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    02:13 Episode start

    04:52 Artist management vs. media platforms

    07:55 Death of middle class in music

    11:35 Successful artists can't tour

    14:39 Everyone’s a DJ Now

    17:38 Can albums still take years to break through?

    21:08 Great music always shines through

    24:04 100,000 songs a day

    27:09 Going viral is the wrong goal

    30:46 Success without social media

    33:14 Word of mouth over algorithms

    35:30 It’s always been a slog

    39:00 Maintaining a legacy of an artist

    45:00 Power in the catalogue

    55:00 Working for Warp Records

    01:01:35 Fans vs. listeners

    01:03:20 Chasing the algorithm is not the way

    01:04:50 Working at RA

    01:12:08 The state of Berlin


    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    #032 Sam Binga: the art of A&R, UK bass culture, and the importance of community Dec 10, 2025
    Show notes

    PLEDGE DRIVE 2025 - all new subscribers to the Musicality tier on Patreon will get a Not A Diving Club t-shirt in your size of choice, delivered to your door completely free of charge!

    Full details.


    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!


    --

    Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    Sam Binga is a DJ & Producer from Bristol, UK.


    Having first emerged in the breaks scene of the early 2000s, in the 2010s he placed himself firmly at the centre of UK bass, with releases on 50 Weapons, Exit and Critical. His sound spans the anthemic rowdiness of tracks like ‘AYO’ and ‘Lef Dem’, to the deeper explorations of his collaborations with Om Unit. He also runs Pineapple Records, a crucial label in the patchwork of soundsystem-adjacent UK electronic music.


    We discuss the state of the current UK scene, his history through various areas of the UK bass scene, forthcoming music on Pineapple, and a lot more.

    Get involved!


    --

    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    02:10 Longtime listener first-time caller

    05:24 2025 recap

    06:30 Pros and cons of self-releasing

    11:00 Liking your own music

    13:30 The producer’s mind

    17:30 Intuition, magic, and fear of the future

    24:30 Breakstep

    30:00 Bao Binga, breaks, and nearly going Dubstep

    34:00 The death of the alias

    37:20 Early aspirations, career advice and mountain biking

    41:41 Early 2000s and lower barriers to entry

    43:44 Community before social media

    48:30 What Makes a scene?

    52:55 Sankeys, violence, police pressure

    55:00 Seeing Jeff Mills at Sankeys

    58:15 The 2010s House era

    59:14 The birth of Sam Binga & Exit Records

    01:08:10 UK Radio culture vs. US

    01:17:20 Label philosophy: skate-team energy & A&R instinct

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    #031 Carrier: the crisis in music and how to stay true to your creative vision Dec 03, 2025
    Show notes

    PLEDGE DRIVE 2025 - all new subscribers to the Musicality tier on Patreon will get a Not A Diving Club t-shirt in your size of choice, delivered to your door completely free of charge!

    Full details.


    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!


    --

    Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    Guy Brewer, aka Shifted, aka half of Commix, aka Carrier, made an appearance on our previous incarnation, the Not A Diving Podcast, a couple of years ago that was very popular. He returns with a new alias but a similar selection of wise takes on the electronic music scene and the challenges facing everyone trying to operate in it.


    We discuss the new Carrier album, Rhythm Immortal, the challenge of genre expectations, the disappearing middle class of musicians, the (ir)relevance of record labels, and much more besides.


    This is a good one!


    --

    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    02:48 Transition from Shifted to Carrier

    04:48 Creative burnout

    07:03 Creative Cycles & Starting Over

    09:31 Musical Influences Behind Carrier

    12:01 Genre ambiguity

    15:04 Creative Rebirth

    18:01 Industry vs. scene

    21:01 The middle class of music has gone

    24:02 Tech and lower barriers to entry

    27:07 Does personality still matter?

    31:13 Hard Techno is lifestyle branding

    34:32 Aesthetics, label identity and scenes

    38:20 Big tech, democratisation and gatekeeping

    42:02 Self-release or label chase?

    48:00 Art and intent

    53:58 Production philosophy

    01:00:02 Tools, workflow & sampling vs. modular

    01:03:10 Creative ruts, flow states & longevity

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    #030 François X: Concrete, French touch, and the development of techno in Paris Nov 26, 2025
    Show notes

    PLEDGE DRIVE 2025 - all new subscribers to the Musicality tier on Patreon will get a Not A Diving Club t-shirt in your size of choice, delivered to your door completely free of charge!

    Full details.


    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!


    --

    Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    François X is a key figure in the history of French techno. From his DEMENT3D label and nights at Social Club to his residency at legendary club Concrete, he has helped redefine the music over time and made a huge contribution to its development in Paris and beyond.


    We discuss all of the above, as well as the state of the scene right now and of course the music.


    --

    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation

    03:02 Episode start

    04:15 State of Paris clubbing

    08:00 Music evolution and changing sounds

    14:00 Roots of Francois X sound

    18:00 Repurposing influences

    19:42 Booking Scuba & Joy Orbison

    21:00 Concrete: The legendary club

    32:12 Paris’ club culture identity

    34:00 Quitting the day job

    38:00 Disco, House and Techno

    38:25 The origin of 'Francois X'

    39:00 House music ruled the roost

    42:10 Electroclash, French touch and Ed Banger

    45:00 Soulful to Techy: Records that flipped it

    48:00 Klockworks, MDR and Dub Techno

    50:51 Production beginnings

    52:25 DEMENT3D and starting a label

    58:24 How would you start a label now?

    01:05:50 Social media pressure and identity

    01:11:50 What's next for Techno?


    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


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