Show notes
Andrew Trask joins MTS to discuss how model fusion and automatic routing are shifting the AI industry from holistic products to a free market for intelligence.
He explains the expiration dates of public benchmarks, the role of encrypted inference in creating secure evaluations, and how data owners can safely monetize their information without losing control. Finally, he addresses the future of local client models and how individuals will bring value to a post-AI economy through specialized knowledge, taste, and trust networks.
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Preview + Introduction
(01:13) How Model Fusion Beats Individual Models
(04:07) Automatic Routing and Fleets of Capability
(06:45) JCR Licklider and the Final Form of the Internet
(11:13) Scaling Laws and the Shift to Local Models
(16:49) Monetizing Rare Knowledge, Taste, and Trust
(19:03) Fixing the Flaws of Public AI Benchmarks
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