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    MTS

    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.

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    Why AI Data Centers Are Building Private Grids | Travis Fisher Sep 19, 2026
    Show notes

    Cato Institute’s Travis Fisher details how data center operators are bypassing grid queue delays by building private off-grid networks and behind-the-meter generation. He discusses short-term emissions increases, state-level rate impacts, and DOE-led nuclear and geothermal innovations. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.



    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.


    Follow MTS:

    X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠

    YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠

    Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠

    Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠

    Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

    Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

    --

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    Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.

    Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

    ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts

    Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

    Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

    Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more

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    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introduction

    (01:25) Shift in Energy Priorities

    (03:13) Rise of Private Power Networks

    (06:06) Keeping Electricity Rates Down

    (08:07) Short-Term Data Center Carbon Emissions

    (11:09) Should We Privatize the Grid

    (14:01) Top Energy Book Recommendations

    --

    Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.




    AI Will Drop the Work Week to 35 Hours | Sen. Bernie Moreno Sep 19, 2026
    Show notes

    US Senator Bernie Moreno discusses how his office uses AI to automate routine tasks, why he believes AI can dramatically boost productivity to allow for a 30-to-35-hour work week, and why he opposes over-regulating AI out of existential fear. He also advocates for mandatory watermarks on AI-generated media and urges tech companies to self-regulate rather than wait for slow-moving legislation. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.



    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.


    Follow MTS:

    X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠

    YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠

    Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠

    Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠

    Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

    Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

    –

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    Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.

    Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

    ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts

    Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

    Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

    Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more

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    –

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introduction

    (00:33) Using AI in Senate Offices

    (01:19) Senate Restrictions on AI Integration

    (02:18) Believing in the Promise of AGI

    (03:15) Addressing AI Safety Skeptics

    (04:39) Policy Frameworks and Watermarking AI

    (05:25) Why Tech Companies Must Self-Regulate

    –

    Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.




    China Trains Top AI Models With 20x Less Compute | Konstantin Pilz Sep 19, 2026
    Show notes

    Center for Technology and Statecraft (CTS) co-founder Konstantin Pilz breaks down why China's top AI labs operate on 20x less compute than US leaders, how distillation drives their progress, and why restricting DUV lithography exports is the US's strongest lever to slow Chinese AI hardware advancement.
    Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.




    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.


    Follow MTS:

    X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠

    YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠

    Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠

    Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠

    Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

    Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

    --

    Brought to you by:

    Mongo DB - Anyone can prototype an agent. Learn how to get them into production on September 30th in New York - register at https://www.mongodb.com/events/mongodb-local/nyc

    Lovable - Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Start today at https://lovable.dev/

    Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.

    Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

    ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts

    Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

    Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

    Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more

    Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com

    AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com

    --

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introduction

    (01:48) Measuring Pace and China Compute

    (06:58) Pacing Frontiers and Compute Overhang

    (11:56) Scaling Laws and Compute Growth

    (15:04) China Retaliation and Supply Chain

    (17:47) Cold War Nuclear Diplomacy Lessons

    (21:23) Human Role in Automated Econom

    --

    Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.


    Why the FCC Is Banning Foreign-Made Drones | Brendan Carr Sep 19, 2026
    Show notes

    FCC Chairman Brendan Carr discusses the agency's "Build America Agenda," banning foreign-made drones, robotics, and routers to spur domestic manufacturing, freeing up spectrum for commercial space operations, and tightening rules to curb robocalls. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.




    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.


    Follow MTS:

    X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠

    YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠

    Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠

    Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠

    Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

    Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

    --

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    Mongo DB - Anyone can prototype an agent. Learn how to get them into production on September 30th in New York - register at https://www.mongodb.com/events/mongodb-local/nyc

    Lovable - Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Start today at https://lovable.dev/

    Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.

    Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

    ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts

    Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

    Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

    Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more

    Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com

    AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com

    --

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introduction

    (01:01) Priorities of the Build America Agenda

    (02:27) Banning Foreign Robotics and Drones

    (03:43) Unlocking Spectrum for Space Operations

    (06:46) FCC's New Levers Against Robocalls

    (08:26) Addressing AI Cybersecurity Threats

    (09:52) Ensuring American Leadership in AI Policy

    (12:16) Regulating TV Broadcast Neutrality

    --

    Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.


    NASA Chief: How To Reach Another Star System | Jared Isaacman Sep 17, 2026
    Show notes

    NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman discusses the high-stakes race to put astronauts on the Moon by 2029, competing with China's lunar timeline. He lays out plans for the newly commissioned U.S. Space Academy, NASA's shift to nuclear-powered spaceships, and how space infrastructure relates to AI and the orbital economy. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.




    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.

    Follow MTS:

    X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠

    YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠

    Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠

    Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠

    Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

    Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

    –

    Brought to you by:

    Mongo DB - Anyone can prototype an agent. Learn how to get them into production on September 30th in New York - register at https://www.mongodb.com/events/mongodb-local/nyc

    Lovable - Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Start today at https://lovable.dev/

    Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.

    Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

    ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts

    Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

    Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

    Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more

    Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com

    AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com

    –

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introduction

    (00:42) Plans for United States Space Academy

    (02:52) How NASA Retains Top Talent

    (05:11) SpaceX Alignment on Lunar Base Goals

    (06:33) NASA Strategy for Interstellar Space Travel

    (08:00) Lessons for AI Developers From NASA

    (15:05) The Role of Nuclear Power in Space

    (17:44) Geopolitical Stakes of the Space Race

    –

    Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.



    Violent Crime Costs US Cities $7 Trillion | Cremieux Sep 17, 2026
    Show notes

    Cremieux explains why dropping PISA scores disappear after adjusting for measurement variance, breaks down the true cost of urban violent crime on economic agglomeration, and discusses the high manufacturing barriers for newly approved myostatin inhibitors. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.



    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.


    Follow MTS:

    X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠

    YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠

    Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠

    Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠

    Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

    Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

    --

    Brought to you by:

    Mongo DB - Anyone can prototype an agent. Learn how to get them into production on September 30th in New York - register at https://www.mongodb.com/events/mongodb-local/nyc

    Lovable - Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Start today at https://lovable.dev/

    Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.

    Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

    ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts

    Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

    Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

    Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more

    Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com

    AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com

    --

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introduction

    (00:53) What Is The PISA Exam?

    (01:51) Are Declining PISA Scores Real?

    (08:32) How To Maintain Epistemic Standards

    (10:49) First FDA-Approved Myostatin Inhibitor

    (14:26) How Crime Destroys City Agglomeration

    (21:14) Why People Oppose AI Data Centers

    --

    Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.




    Why Universities Must Evaluate Frontier AI | Chris Manning Sep 17, 2026
    Show notes

    Sophia Dew interviews Stanford NLP Group founder Chris Manning on why universities are uniquely suited to be independent AI safety evaluators, the risks of client capture with existing IVOs like METR, and how Moonlake is combining code-based physics simulation with neural rendering for physical AI. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.



    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.


    Follow MTS:

    X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠

    YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠

    Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠

    Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠

    Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

    Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

    --

    Brought to you by:

    Mongo DB - Anyone can prototype an agent. Learn how to get them into production on September 30th in New York - register at https://www.mongodb.com/events/mongodb-local/nyc

    Lovable - Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Start today at https://lovable.dev/

    Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.

    Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

    ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts

    Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

    Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

    Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more

    Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com

    AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com

    --

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Preview & Introduction

    (02:03) Why Universities Should Evaluate AI

    (03:49) How Stanford Differs From METR

    (07:46) Should AI Safety Research Be Public?

    (09:58) The Problem Of Client Capture

    (14:58) Why AI Professors Leave Academia

    (20:28) Building Physical AI At Moonlake

    (26:26) Comparing LLMs To Human Intelligence

    --

    Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.




    Factory COO: Why Big Tech Must Own Their Own AI Intelligence | Francesca LaBianca Sep 16, 2026
    Show notes

    Francesca LaBianca joins MTS to discuss Factory's approach to self-improving software, sovereign intelligence for enterprise deployment, and model-agnostic systems that give developers choice across frontier and open source models. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.



    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.


    Follow MTS:

    X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠

    YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠

    Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠

    Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠

    Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

    Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

    --

    Brought to you by:

    Mongo DB - Anyone can prototype an agent. Learn how to get them into production on September 30th in New York - register at https://www.mongodb.com/events/mongodb-local/nyc

    Lovable - Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Start today at https://lovable.dev/

    Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.

    Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

    ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts

    Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

    Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

    Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more

    Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com

    AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com

    --

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introduction

    (01:22) What Factory Is Building

    (02:01) Five-Month Valuation Surge

    (04:20) Defining Sovereign Intelligence

    (05:43) Enterprise Model Mix Trends

    (10:27) Future Vision and Scale

    (11:36) Investor to COO Journey

    --

    Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.




    Anthropic & OpenAI Are Hardening Cisco Infrastructure | Jeetu Patel Sep 16, 2026
    Show notes

    Jeetu Patel joins MTS to discuss Cisco's partnerships with Anthropic and OpenAI on AI-powered vulnerability detection, the shift from human-scale to machine-scale cybersecurity defense, and how AI automation is changing engineering bottlenecks from coding to taste and judgment. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.

    https://x.com/jpatel41

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    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.


    Follow MTS:

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    Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠

    Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠

    Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors@mts.now⁠⁠

    --

    Brought to you by:

    Mongo DB - Anyone can prototype an agent. Learn how to get them into production on September 30th in New York - register at https://www.mongodb.com/events/mongodb-local/nyc

    Lovable - Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Start today at https://lovable.dev/

    Larridin - Finally prove what your AI investment is worth. Head to https://larridin.com/ today to start measuring your AI’s bottom line.

    Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠

    ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts

    Arena - Measuring AI performance in the real world. ⁠https://arena.ai/⁠

    Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com

    Today’s stream is sponsored by VCX, the public ticker for private tech. Head over to http://getvcx.com to learn more

    Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com

    AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com

    --

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introduction

    (01:06) Frontier AI Partnerships

    (02:05) Attacking Own Software

    (04:20) Anthropic vs OpenAI

    (07:23) Human-in-the-Loop Bottlenecks

    (08:53) Autonomous Agent Limits

    (11:08) Flipping Security Advantage

    --

    Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.



    Fake AI Safety Experts Are Stealing Real Cyber Contracts | Brian Chau Sep 15, 2026
    Show notes

    Brian Chau joins MTS to discuss his investigation into Irregular's role in recent AI cybersecurity incidents, the involvement of effective altruism organizations in AI evaluation firms, and the need for traditional cybersecurity expertise in AI testing. Check out our sponsor Lovable: https://lovable.dev. Turn ideas into software people love.



    MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens.


    Follow MTS:

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    (09:26) Real Model vs Eval Alignment

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    (13:04) EA Monoculture and Paid Media

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