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    Mormon Marriages

    Join Angilyn and Nate Bagley as they capture the real-life stories of amazing LDS couples, and learn the principles and tools of how to have an incredible Eternal Marriage from LDS marriage experts. If you want a marriage that makes you look forward to eternity… this show should be in your feed!

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    E03 - Marriage: The Great Adventure with Zack and Annie Oates Sep 29, 2019
    Show notes

    Zack Oates is an entrepreneur, hot tubber, blogger and husband (but not in that order, necessarily).
    It took him over 1,000 dates to find his wife (worth the wait) and has documented his journey on BowlofOates.com.

    Annie is a Fashion designer who runs her a design shop and shows off her up-cycling at heyannieo.com when she's not momming or wifing it up like a boss.

    They are a hashtag power couple.

    • 3:30 - The most important mentors in life are those who are just a few steps ahead of you.
    • 4:30 - How Zack and Annie met
    • 5:20 - Rule #1: You can kiss on the first date, as long as you marry them!
    • 6:15 - What Zack learned after 1000 dates
    • 7:20 - Fireworks vs Smolder
    • 8:40 - “God, if this wrong, tell me now….because I’m going for it!”
    • 9:10 - Choose your love, and love your choice.
    • 10:15 - Lots of people like to warn us that the first year of marriage is the hardest, but it doesn’t have to be that way
    • 10:30 - Mission lesson: It’s not about obedience, it’s about love. “Obedience is the first law, but love is the greatest” Marriage is very similar. Love and serve your companion.
    • 12:45 - “You’ve made your choice. Now, spend the rest of your life making it the right choice.”
    • 14:30 The first year of marriage was not as hard as everyone painted it to be, but it was still an adjustment for them.
    • 17:15 - If your friends are having a bad day or do something mean, you can leave. But in marriage, you’ve got to deal with it!
    • 18:00 Marriage is easier than dating - it’s a different kind of hard.
    • 19:45 There are many people who will say, regardless of what stage of life you’re in, “Oh [this stage] is the worst!”
    • 12:30 There are other people who will say that whatever stage is NEXT in life, is the hardest. “You just wait!”
    • 21:00 People who are optimistic will always be able to find the good. (and vice versa)
    • 22:10 Slug Bug analogy. “You find what you’re looking for.”
    • 23:50 If you want to hear the voice of God, listen. If you want to see the hand of God, look. If you want to feel the love of God, serve.
    • 24:15 “The world, with all its sham and drudgery, is still a beautiful place.” There is an abundance of joy available to us, but we have to CHOOSE to take it.
    • 25:30 The ritual of a Weekly Companionship Inventory
    • 26:15 Things that make marriage hard - family, sex, money, communication, and forgetting the small stuff. Companionship inventory helps to address all of these things on a regular basis.
    • 27:40 Steps to a good inventory: #1. Offer a reason you love the other specifically from the week #2. Ask what can I do to improve or be better #3. Go over finances #4. Set your schedule for the week.
    • 28:45 “Real-time feedback”
    • 29:45 Go to marriage counseling BEFORE there is a problem. Gather the tools and skills you need to be prepared when issues arise.
    • 30:15 While communicating, learn how to dig for the deeper meaning or intentions behind your partner’s words. Sometimes the conversation needs to keep going in order to truly understand each other. Get to the root issue.
    • 31:00 A lot of our actions are rooted in our fears and insecurities. It’s important to understand what our partner’s fears are in order to have context surrounding why they do what they do. This can lead to more empathy versus anger.
    • 32:00 Fight or Flight mode is instinctual during arguments and stress. When your partner shuts down, lashes out, or takes flight during an argument, it’s not effective to just tell them to stop or return the anger. It’s important to ask yourself, “What could I be doing that has put them into fight or flight mode? What am I doing that is making them feel unsafe?”
    • 33:00 The other person’s perception of reality is the only reality that they have.
    • 36:05 Low Negativity Threshold (resolve issues quickly to avoid resentment)
    • 37:45 Dishes analogy
    • 38:25 Your brain perceives emotional pain in the same place that it perceives physical pain. Our natural instinct is to pull away from whatever is causing us pain. You need to repair that emotional wound in order to close the gap that the hurt created.
    • 40:30 An apology does not have to be an admission of guilt, but an opportunity to heal your partner
    • 41:30 Be quick to apologize and quick to forgive. Acknowledge the hurt that was made, heal, and move on.
    • 42:05 Give genuine compliments often.
    • 44:00 If marriage is for eternity, why not make is something to be stoked about?
    • 44:45 Surround yourself with people who LOVE marriage and have a positive outlook.
    • 47:10 Find what you value most and have a “thing” that you do together. Always have something to look forward to.
    • 49:30 Alma 32 - comparing the seed to love and marriage (it takes effort and nourishment)
    • 52:25 In dating, sometimes there are good seeds and good soil that just aren’t compatible with each other, and that’s okay!
    • 55:25 When the seed finally takes root and begins to grow, even if it’s slow,
    • it can truly become something “sweet above all that is sweet”
    • 56:20 Marry your best friend
    • 56:30 “Strive to be happy”
    • 57:05 “Teach it to me, or take it from me”

    E02 - Four Pillars of Marriage with Brad and Debi Wilcox Sep 29, 2019
    Show notes

    Brad Wilcox is a professor in the Department of Ancient Scripture at Brigham Young University where he also enjoys working with such programs as Especially for Youth, Women’s Conference, and Campus Education Week. He is the author of the book, The Continuous Atonement, and the BYU devotional, “His Grace is Sufficient.” Brad grew up in Provo, Utah except for childhood years spent in Ethiopia, Africa. He served a mission for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Chile and later returned to that country to preside over the Chile Santiago East Mission from 2003-2006. He and his family have also lived for a time in New Zealand and Spain where he directed study abroad programs for Brigham Young University. Brad has served as a member of the Sunday School General Board. He and his wife, Debi, have four children and six grandchildren. Reading, writing, teaching, and traveling are some of his favorite things. He loves Peanut M&M's and pepperoni pizza, but he realizes that doesn't sound too healthy so he is really trying hard to learn to love salads.

    • 2:54 - Elder Faust asked Brad and Debbie Wilcox to be a model of a happy marriage to their missionaries
    • 3:45 - “Always go to the funeral”
    • 5:20 - We all want to make a difference in the world, but that starts with making a difference in your family
    • 6:00 - What Brad and Debbie are still learning after 35 years of marriage (lifelong learning, “empty nest” stage)
    • 7:50 - How Brad and Debbie met and fell in love
    • 11:00 - Things fell more into place when the pressure was off
    • 11:45 - First Kiss
    • 12:34 - Things progress more naturally in dating when there isn’t so much pressure
    • 13:45 - Sometimes things don’t just “fall into place” naturally when you meet the right person. It takes an intentional choice to give things a try. It takes vulnerability and risk.
    • 15:00 - The transition that happened when baby came along - they had to be more intentional in their marriage
    • 15:45 - The purpose of marriage is growth; the relationship matures over time
    • 17:15 - “Love isn’t two people looking madly at each other, love is two people looking in the same direction” The maturity and growth happens while working towards a common goal and purpose
    • 18:45 - The four “legs on a table” of a relationship (emotional/social, intellectual, spiritual, physical), and how strength comes in having a balance of all four.
    • 19:39 - the purpose of an engagement - strengthen the pillars of emotional/social, intellectual, and spiritual before adding in the physical helps to create a strong foundation
    • 21:50 - How each of the four pillars of a relationship help with the “hard work” of marriage
    • 23:55 - Intellectual - It’s not necessarily about sharing interests, but showing interest in the other person’s interests. Share your world with each other.
    • 25:55 - Emotional/social pillar
    • 27:00 - Spiritual pillar
    • 27:50/31:15 - It’s not always realistic to have scripture study and prayer together as a couple. As long as each individual working on their spirituality separately, that adds to the spiritual pillar of the relationship.
    • 29:15 - Simply being active in the church and having a temple recommend helps to be on the same page with core values
    • 29:30 - Fear of marriage in young people, and common causes of divorce
    • 30:20 - If you can live a certain way before marriage, it is a good indicator that you will be able to continue living that way after marriage (activity in the church, living within your means, etc).
    • 30:55 - The church alone can give a couple the spiritual connection the marriage needs.
    • 31:30 - Individual spiritual habits fulfill a need in our lives
    • 33:30 - Physical Pillar - men and women compliment each other with the emotional and physical sides of an intimate relationship.
    • 34:35 - “Choreplay”
    • 35:10 - Air traffic controllers vs Bowlers (landing airplanes vs knocking down the pins)
    • 37:25 - We’re meant to go together; we teach other to create a fuller and more meaningful experience
    • 37:50 - Different temptations for men and women
    • 38:10 - Avoidable mistakes of young couples
    • 41:30 - Problem solving vs listening
    • 41:45 - Asking for what you need instead of expecting your partner to “just know”
    • 42:45 - “You’re not allowed to complain about something you’ve never asked for”
    • 44:20 - Our society has taught us that asking for what we want is selfish - these leads to covert contracts. “My partner should just know what I need”
    • 46:00 - It’s easy to get discouraged, but just caring about making your marriage better shows that you are on the right track.
    • 46:30 - Satan will never have a marriage, and will never have a family. No wonder he is out to destroy our families.
    • 47:20 - “A problem identified, is a problem half-solved”
    • 48:20: - An example of real-life compromise

    E01 - The Divinity of Desire with Dr. Jennifer Finlayson-Fife Sep 29, 2019
    Show notes

    Dr. Finlayson-Fife is a licensed psychotherapist with a Ph.D in Counseling Psychology from Boston College. She wrote her dissertation on LDS women and sexuality, has taught college-level courses on human sexuality, and currently teaches online and community-based relationship and sexuality courses to LDS couples. She is a frequent contributor on the subjects of sexuality, mental health, and spirituality to LDS-themed blogs, magazines, and podcasts. She maintains a private practice in Chicago where she lives with her husband and three children. She is an active member of the LDS church.

    2:35 Jennifer’s workshop “Art of Desire”

    4:15 The meaning frames that humans create to justify or explain their circumstances

    6:45 It is necessary to integrate your god-given sexuality

    8:00 “False tradition” says that sexuality is a necessary evil

    8:35 Mormon theology for sexuality

    9:10 Ways to be evil

    10:15 Sexuality and goodness

    11:15 Adjusting to marriage

    14:00 Steps to cultivating god-given desire

    14:30 we run our own sexuality, it doesn’t run us

    16:45 What happens when you’re afraid of your sexuality (repression or indulgence)

    18:15 Sexual contract - marriage is a chosen relationship; to know and be known

    20:45 Marriage pushes your development

    21:30 What can my marriage teach me?

    22:15 “Ticks and moles”

    23:10 You live in the environment that you create

    23:45 We self deceive and collude in not dealing with troubles (polite marriage vs intimate marriage)

    24:15 Measuring quality of marriage

    25:30 Can there be room for the best of both partners? We often want our own limitations to prevail while expecting our spouses’ limitations to disappear

    26:00 Victim mentality (guilt your spouse into submission) It may look like there’s peace, but there will be underlying anger and resentment.

    27:00 Unrealistic fantasy of “oneness”

    28:00 Using the validation of others to sustain your own sense of self

    28:50 “In the name of Love, we can sometimes suck the lives out of our spouses” (validate me, reinforce me)

    29:45 Choose to love someone, limitations and all

    30:00 Breaking the bond of using someone else for your own validation

    31:40 Even if your partner says all the right words, it won’t land anywhere if you don’t feel it in your heart

    32:30 Taking accountability for your own life

    33:15 “False tradition” if women want to develop vs nurture, then they are selfish (we’ve come to earth to develop and create)

    34:30 Create a sense of self

    34:50 Self deception is Satan’s path

    35:20 Taking responsibility for your own emotions

    37:25 Don’t try to manage your partner in order to manage yourself. Trying to control things we have no control over, like our spouses, distracts us from focusing on what we CAN control, like ourselves

    38:45 What are my blind spots that I have yet to confront?

    39:00 One of the kindest things you can do for your partner is to manage yourself (anxiety is infectious). This allows them to in turn manage THEMSELVES

    40:20 Ask yourself “what am I pretending not to know about my role in these circumstances”

    41:00 Confronting yourself is a scary thing, especially in a sexual relationship

    42:00 Own your own desire and ask for what you want vs covert contracts

    42:45 Owning your desire exposes you to the possibility of rejection. This is true intimacy and true vulnerability

    43:20 “you’re not allowed to complain about not getting something you’ve never asked for”

    44:05 it’s easier to sit in an entitled resentment thinking “you owe me” instead of asking for what you want and risking not getting it.

    44:45 When we don’t take responsibility of our desires, we stunt the development of our marriages and of ourselves

    44:55 if you’re not getting what you want in your marriage - #1 have you asked for it? #2 are you doing your part to create the possibility of getting it?

    46:40 We’re good at thinking about all of the things we think we are owed, but not so good at confronting our part in he negative reality we are living in

    47:10 Make it easy for your partner to give you what you want

    48:25 The theology of Mormonism contains the architecture for creating amazing marriages

    49:15 you come to know God through behavior, not ideas. It’s the way you act in our marriage that is a reflection of how much you understand God.


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