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    Moody’s Talks – Inside Economics

    Join Chief Economist Mark Zandi, Marisa DiNatale and Cristian deRitis as they discuss key indicators and other aspects of the global economy. Contact us at insideeconomics@moodys.com. Visit online at www.economy.com/economicview

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    Consumer Prices, Consumer Credit, Client Concerns Oct 17, 2025
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    Colleague Matt Colyar joins Cris and Mark on the podcast to discuss the prospects for inflation and the threat posed by subprime consumer credit problems to the banking system and broader economy. They discuss all of this through the prism of concerns raised by clients in their travels this past week: Mark was out West, Matt in Texas, and Cris in Bermuda.

    Guest: Matt Colyar - Assistan Director, Economist, Moody's Analytics

    Hosts: Mark Zandi – Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, Cris deRitis – Deputy Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, and Marisa DiNatale – Senior Director - Head of Global Forecasting, Moody’s Analytics

    Follow Mark Zandi on 'X' and BlueSky @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis on LinkedIn, and Marisa DiNatale on LinkedIn

    Questions or Comments, please email us at InsideEconomics@moodys.com. We would love to hear from you.

    To stay informed and follow the insights of Moody's Analytics economists, visit Economic View.


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    Missing Government, Missing Data Oct 10, 2025
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    Justin Begley and Brendan LaCerda join Inside Economics to discuss the federal government shutdown and its macroeconomic consequences. First, the crew discusses how the shutdown is preventing the release of federal economic statistics, and Justin runs through a bunch of private data sources that can be used to gauge the health of the labor market in the absence of the BLS reports. The conversation then turns to the shutdown itself. Brendan and Justin opine on when and how the stalemate might end and the macro consequences of an extended shutdown. Finally, the team breaks tradition with the stats game.

    Guest: Justin Begley, Economist, Moody's analytics and Brendan LaCerda, director Economic Research, Moody's Analytics

    Hosts: Mark Zandi – Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, Cris deRitis – Deputy Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, and Marisa DiNatale – Senior Director - Head of Global Forecasting, Moody’s Analytics

    Follow Mark Zandi on 'X' and BlueSky @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis on LinkedIn, and Marisa DiNatale on LinkedIn

    Questions or Comments, please email us at InsideEconomics@moodys.com. We would love to hear from you.

    To stay informed and follow the insights of Moody's Analytics economists, visit Economic View.


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    No Jobs Friday Oct 03, 2025
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    The Inside Economics team welcomes Lisa Simon, Chief Economist at Revelio Labs, for an unusual jobs Friday podcast as the ongoing government shutdown prevented the release of the September employment report. Lisa details the new public labor statistics data that Revelio Labs began publishing recently in the wake of turmoil at the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The team discusses how private data sources can help fill in the gaps left by the temporary absence of government data and also dissects the current state of the labor market.

    Guest: Lisa Simon – Chief Economics, Revelio Labs

    For more about Lisa Simon, click here: https://www.reveliolabs.com/author/lisa-k-simon/

    Explore the risks and realities shaping the economy in our new webinar, now streaming for free.

    U.S. Economic Outlook: Under Unprecedented Uncertainty

    Watch here: https://events.moodys.com/mc68453-wbn-2025-mau25777-us-macro-outlook-precipice-recession?mkt_tok=OT…

    Hosts: Mark Zandi – Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, Cris deRitis – Deputy Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, and Marisa DiNatale – Senior Director - Head of Global Forecasting, Moody’s Analytics

    Questions or Comments, please email us at InsideEconomics@moodys.com. We would love to hear from you.

    To stay informed and follow the insights of Moody's Analytics economists, visit Economic View.


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    On the Brightside with Michelle Meyer Sep 29, 2025
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    Mastercard Chief Economist Michelle Meyer joins the Inside Economics team to debate the health of the American consumer and the economy’s prospects. The team pushes hard on Michelle’s sanguine perspective, but she holds her ground—and then some. Listen in if you want a preview of the strength of holiday sales and what will power that growth.

    Guest: Michelle Meyer – Chief Economist, Mastercard

    (https://www.mastercardservices.com/en/overview/leadership/michelle-meyer)

    Explore the risks and realities shaping the economy in our new webinar, now streaming for free.

    U.S. Economic Outlook: Under Unprecedented Uncertainty

    Watch here: https://events.moodys.com/mc68453-wbn-2025-mau25777-us-macro-outlook-precipice-recession?mkt_tok=OT…

    Hosts: Mark Zandi – Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, Cris deRitis – Deputy Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, and Marisa DiNatale – Senior Director - Head of Global Forecasting, Moody’s Analytics

    Follow Mark Zandi on 'X' and BlueSky @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis on LinkedIn, and Marisa DiNatale on LinkedIn

    Questions or Comments, please email us at InsideEconomics@moodys.com. We would love to hear from you.

    To stay informed and follow the insights of Moody's Analytics economists, visit Economic View.


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    The K-Shaped Economy with Heather Long Sep 22, 2025
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    Heather Long, Chief Economist at Navy Federal Credit Union, joins the Inside Economics team to discuss what she dubbed the K-Shaped Economy. She describes the reasons why the well-to-do are thriving and the bottom 80% of the income distribution is struggling to make ends meet. The team discusses the origins of this skewing in the income distribution and why we should care about it.

    Explore the risks and realities shaping the economy in our new webinar, now streaming for free.

    U.S. Economic Outlook: Under Unprecedented Uncertainty

    Watch here: https://events.moodys.com/mc68453-wbn-2025-mau25777-us-macro-outlook-precipice-recession?mkt_tok=OT…

    Hosts: Mark Zandi – Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, Cris deRitis – Deputy Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, and Marisa DiNatale – Senior Director - Head of Global Forecasting, Moody’s Analytics

    Follow Mark Zandi on 'X' and BlueSky @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis on LinkedIn, and Marisa DiNatale on LinkedIn

    Questions or Comments, please email us at InsideEconomics@moodys.com. We would love to hear from you.

    To stay informed and follow the insights of Moody's Analytics economists, visit Economic View.


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    Speaking From All Hands Day Sep 17, 2025
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    The Inside Economics team gets together in person at All Hands Day. It is a short podcast, with more than the typical amount of chit-chat (as we are in person). But it is an action-packed conversation on the Fed’s rate decision (see if we got it right), our proposal to unlock the housing market, and, of course, the statistics game!

    Explore the risks and realities shaping the economy in our new webinar, now streaming for free: U.S. Economic Outlook: Under Unprecedented Uncertainty

    Watch here: https://events.moodys.com/mc68453-wbn-2025-mau25777-us-macro-outlook-precipice-recession?mkt_tok=OT…

    Hosts: Mark Zandi – Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, Cris deRitis – Deputy Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, and Marisa DiNatale – Senior Director - Head of Global Forecasting, Moody’s Analytics

    Follow Mark Zandi on 'X' and BlueSky @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis on LinkedIn, and Marisa DiNatale on LinkedIn

    Questions or Comments, please email us at helpeconomy@moodys.com. We would love to hear from you.

    Questions or Comments, please email us at InsideEconomics@moodys.com. We would love to hear from you.

    To stay informed and follow the insights of Moody's Analytics economists, visit Economic View.


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    CPI and AI with Capital Group's Jared Franz Sep 12, 2025
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    Mark and Cris are joined by Matt Colyar to break down the latest CPI inflation report, while Jared Franz from the Capital Group explores how artificial intelligence is reshaping the American economy and labor market. We examine the opportunities and challenges of the AI revolution and what it means for workers, businesses, and investors in this rapidly changing economic landscape.

    Jared Franz is an economist at Capital Group, responsible for covering the United States. He has 19 years of investment industry experience and has been with Capital Group for 10 years. Prior to joining Capital, Jared was head of international macroeconomic research at Hartford Investment Management Company. Before that, he was an international and U.S. economist at T. Rowe Price. He holds a PhD in economics from the University of Illinois at Chicago, a bachelor’s degree in mathematics from Northwestern University and attended the U.S. Naval Academy. He is also a member of the Forecasters Club of New York, an elected member of the Conference of Business Economists and a member of the Pacific Council. Jared is based in Los Angeles.

    Explore more insights from Capital Group’s Jared Franz in the articles below:

    4 charts on why the U.S. economy could stay resilient | Capital Group

    Benjamin Button’s clues for the US economy

    Explore the risks and realities shaping the economy in our new webinar, now streaming for free.

    U.S. Economic Outlook: Under Unprecedented Uncertainty

    Watch here: https://events.moodys.com/mc68453-wbn-2025-mau25777-us-macro-outlook-precipice-recession?mkt_tok=OT…

    Hosts: Mark Zandi – Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, Cris deRitis – Deputy Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, and Marisa DiNatale – Senior Director - Head of Global Forecasting, Moody’s Analytics

    Follow Mark Zandi on 'X' and BlueSky @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis on LinkedIn, and Marisa DiNatale on LinkedIn

    Questions or Comments, please email us at InsideEconomics@moodys.com. We would love to hear from you.

    To stay informed and follow the insights of Moody's Analytics economists, visit Economic View.


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    A Jobs Recession Sep 05, 2025
    Show notes

    Dante joins the Inside Economics team to talk about the August employment report. After another set of weak numbers, Mark declares that the economy has entered a jobs recession. Cris and Marisa agree, but Dante would like to see more evidence. They also discuss how the lack of hiring is disproportionately impacting young workers. They wrap up by considering what it all means for the Fed, in light of a big jump in market expectations for more drastic rate cuts by the end of the year.

    Guest: Dante DeAntonio, Senior Director of Economic Research, Moody's Analytics

    Hosts: Mark Zandi – Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, Cris deRitis – Deputy Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, and Marisa DiNatale – Senior Director - Head of Global Forecasting, Moody’s Analytics

    Follow Mark Zandi on 'X' and BlueSky @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis on LinkedIn, and Marisa DiNatale on LinkedIn

    Questions or Comments, please email us at InsideEconomics@moodys.com. We would love to hear from you.

    To stay informed and follow the insights of Moody's Analytics economists, visit Economic View.


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    Nervous Economy, Nervous Economists Aug 29, 2025
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    Mark, Cris, and Marisa talk about the increasingly shaky state of the economy after reviewing the week’s data. They preview next week’s jobs report and the likelihood of further downward revisions and negative payroll numbers. The trio then ponders some dark scenarios regarding Fed independence or lack thereof, and what that could mean for the growth and inflation outlooks.

    Hosts: Mark Zandi – Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, Cris deRitis – Deputy Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, and Marisa DiNatale – Senior Director - Head of Global Forecasting, Moody’s Analytics

    Follow Mark Zandi on 'X' and BlueSky @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis on LinkedIn, and Marisa DiNatale on LinkedIn

    Questions or Comments, please email us at InsideEconomics@moodys.com. We would love to hear from you.

    To stay informed and follow the insights of Moody's Analytics economists, visit Economic View.


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    Cuts Confirmed to Crypto Caution Aug 22, 2025
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    From Fed Chair Powell’s confirmation of coming interest rate cuts to digital wallets, this episode dives deep into the evolving world of digital currencies with guest Ananya Kumar from the Atlantic Council. Whether you're managing your portfolio like co-host Crypto Cris or just trying to keep up with changing technologies, we’ve got you covered.

    Guest: Ananya Kumar, Deputy Director of Future of Money, Atlantic Council

    For Ananya's article on Chinese Stablecoin click here: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/econographics/everybody-wants-a-stablecoin-even-china/

    Hosts: Mark Zandi – Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, Cris deRitis – Deputy Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, and Marisa DiNatale – Senior Director - Head of Global Forecasting, Moody’s Analytics

    Follow Mark Zandi on 'X' and BlueSky @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis on LinkedIn, and Marisa DiNatale on LinkedIn

    Questions or Comments, please email us at InsideEconomics@moodys.com. We would love to hear from you.

    To stay informed and follow the insights of Moody's Analytics economists, visit Economic View.


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