Moody's Talks - Inside Economics

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Oil, Cows and Taxes Apr 10, 2026

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The Inside Economics team is joined by Matt Colyar to discuss the week’s loaded economic data slate. First, Matt offers a detailed reaction to March’s hot CPI report – the first inflation data capturing effects from the conflict in the Middle East. Next, the group discusses how each is thinking about their recession probabilities in light of the tenuous ceasefire between the U.S. and Iran and the latest economic data. The group closes, of course, with the numbers game where Mark reveals that he doesn’t file his own taxes, and despite not eating meat, Cris provides an update on how America’s steakhouses are faring amid rising beef costs.

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Hosts: Mark Zandi – Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, Cris deRitis – Deputy Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics, and Marisa DiNatale – Senior Director - Head of Global Forecasting, Moody’s Analytics

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Curb Your (Job Market) Enthusiasm Apr 03, 2026

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The Inside Economics crew (minus Dr. DeAntonio) parses the March jobs report, which came in surprisingly strong. They all agree that the headline number is deceptive and the labor market is actually quite weak and poised to weaken further in the wake of the conflict in the Middle East. Mark unveils his new take on the Sahm Rule indicator, which points to a surprising conclusion. The stats game is back (and not going anywhere), and the team takes several good listener questions.

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The Sages of CRE Mar 31, 2026

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Moody's commercial real estate experts Tom LaSalvia and Kevin Fagan join Mark, Marisa, and Cris to take stock of where CRE markets stand today. Tom and Kevin go beyond the headlines to unpack the nuances driving the office market's uneven recovery, multifamily's supply-driven growing pains, and retail's quiet comeback. Their verdict: measured confidence — provided the broader economy cooperates. As a bonus, Tom reveals the philosopher alter ego hiding inside each host. Spoiler alert: not everyone gets to be Socrates.

Guests: Thomas LaSalvia and Kevin Fagan

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Weighing Recession Probabilities Mar 27, 2026

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Hostilities with Iran are entering their second month, and the damage to financial markets and the economy is mounting. The Inside Economics team and colleague, Shandor Whitcher, take up the question of what it all means for the prospects of recession. Shandor tells us about his prescient random forest model of the probability of recession starting in the next year, and it’s not encouraging. Odds are still less than half, but not by much, and the direction of travel is disconcerting.

Guest: Shandor Whitcher

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Markets Down, Recession Risks Up Mar 20, 2026

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Mark, Cris and Marisa recap the week’s events in the Middle East and at the Fed and debate whether or not the baseline forecast warrants a rethink given the rising uncertainty around how and when the conflict in the Middle East will end. The crew discusses the tumultuous week in financial markets, the impact that prolonged high oil prices could have on the U.S. economy, and what this means for the risk of a recession over the next year. They answer several listener questions on a wide range of topics.

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For a deeper dive on AI and the macroeconomy, see our new paper, The Macroeconomic Consequences of Artificial Intelligence, where we model four potential economic paths over the next decade. We also walk through the scenarios in a companion webinar available now on-demand.
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Scott Galloway, the Optimistic Pessimist Mar 19, 2026

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The Inside Economics team is joined by Scott Galloway, bestselling author and professor of marketing at NYU Stern, for a wide-ranging conversation spanning geopolitics, technology, and generational justice. The group touches on the escalating conflict in Iran before turning to the transformative — and disruptive — potential of artificial intelligence. The conversation takes a sharp turn as Scott examines what may be the defining economic story of our time: the systematic transfer of wealth and opportunity from the young to the old. Rising asset prices, unaffordable housing, and policy choices that favor incumbents have left many young adults locked out. Rising loneliness and the economic disenfranchisement of young men are among the consequences the group explores. Scott delivers his trademark mix of provocation and hope in a discussion as entertaining as it is sobering.

Guest: Scott Galloway

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$100 Oil...and Counting Mar 13, 2026

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Mark and Marisa are joined once again by colleagues Chris Lafakis and Juan Pablo Fuentes to discuss the past week’s developments in the Middle East and whether the forecast has changed as a result. Matt Colyar joins to review the week’s release of inflation data, which show stickiness in inflation prior to the $40 jump in oil prices since the start of the year. After a review of weak reports on GDP, spending and confidence, Chris and Juan Pablo discuss how the jump in oil prices and the unprecedented supply shock will affect consumer spending and growth. The group posits their forecasts for how and when the conflict may end.

Guests: Matt Colyar, Chris Lafakis and Juan Pablo Fuentes

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90,000 Lost Jobs and $90 Oil Mar 06, 2026

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The Inside Economics team tackles the tough economic data and developments of the past week. There was nothing redeeming in the February jobs numbers, as the economy struggles to create jobs and unemployment edges higher. And this is before the fallout from the U.S. conflict with Iran hits the economy, which threatens to be considerable. The discussion ends on the question of how the fighting will be resolved, but there are no satisfying answers.
Jenna Score: 7

Guests: Dante DeAntonio, Chris Lafakis, and Juan Pablo Fuentes

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AI: Friend or Foe? Feb 27, 2026

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Mark, Cris & Marisa reunite for a lively discussion about their predictions around AI’s impact on the economy over the next year or two. The team talks about their recently released webinar & white paper on the Macroeconomic Consequences of AI and answers several great listener questions in the process. Marisa and Cris try to talk Mark down off the AI-apocalypse ledge, as the once eternally optimistic Zandi has gone down a darker path recently.
Jenna Score: 8.5/10

Read the Citrini Research Scenario on AI here: https://www.citriniresearch.com/p/2028gic

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Nerdfest with Bernstein and Parrott Feb 20, 2026

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Former chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, Jared Bernstein, and housing maven, Jim Parrott, join Mark and Cris to drink from today’s fire hose of events, including the SCOTUS decision striking down President Trump’s reciprocal tariffs to the 4th quarter GDP numbers. The conversation turns to how well the economy is performing through the prism of AI, housing, and jobs. It’s a veritable econ nerdfest.

Guest: Jared Bernstein, Former Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers

For more from Jared Bernstein, click here: https://econjared.substack.com/

Guest: Jim Parrott, Nonresident Fellow at the Urban Institute

For more from Jim Parrott, click here: https://www.urban.org/author/jim-parrott

Follow Mark Zandi on 'X' and BlueSky @MarkZandi, Cris deRitis on LinkedIn, and Marisa DiNatale on LinkedIn

Questions or Comments, please email us at InsideEconomics@moodys.com. We would love to hear from you.

To stay informed and follow the insights of Moody's Analytics economists, visit Economic View.

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