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    Monetary Matters with Jack Farley

    Jack Farley interviews the very best financial minds about macro, markets, and monetary matters. Follow Jack on Twitter @JackFarley96.

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    The Private Credit Boom is Over: Redemption Requests Exceed Liquidity | James Elbaor | Marlton LLC Sep 27, 2026
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    James Elbaor, Founder and Portfolio Manager at Marlton LLC joins OPM to discuss why the private credit boom is officially over. Elbaor explains how artificial intelligence is threatening the SaaS businesses that make up over half a trillion dollars of private credit exposure, while also detailing how liquidity gates are currently trapping investors in massive interval funds like BCRED. The discussion concludes by exploring lucrative upcoming merger opportunities in the public BDC space and analyzing why asset managers utilizing permanent capital vehicles are being rewarded with premium market multiples.


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    JFMW Partners LLC (“Promoter”) is providing this endorsement of, and information related to, the advisory services offered by Namsoft Advisors LLC ("Namsoft"). Promoter is not a current client or investor in any Namsoft advisory account or private fund. Promoter receives cash compensation from Namsoft in the form of a flat referral fee of $750 for each client that engages Namsoft as a result of Promoter's promotional activities. Because Promoter is compensated for this endorsement, a material conflict of interest exists, as Promoter has a financial incentive to promote Namsoft's services to you. This endorsement is delivered as part of a podcast or other audio program produced by Promoter and does not constitute investment advice or a recommendation that any particular advisory arrangement is suitable for you.


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    01:42 Private Credit Redemptions Continue

    07:03 IPO Window Shuts & Credit Fund M&A

    15:28 AI Threat to SaaS Borrowers

    16:51 Sponsor Message Plutus

    18:17 Private Credit vs Private Equity

    24:25 Systemic Risk and Wrappers

    29:15 Public vs Private BDC Gap

    34:46 Why Interval Funds List

    39:44 Alt Managers Valuation Reset

    43:33 Permanent Capital Explained

    50:17 Hedge Funds vs Private Equity

    54:41 Pershing Square Liquidity

    01:04:17 Conclusion


    Why the Fed May Have to Hike Far Higher Than Expected | Henry Peabody on the Fed’s Triple Mandate and Uneven Transmission of Monetary Policy Sep 24, 2026
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    Henry Peabody, senior investment strategist at GMO, joins Monetary Matters to explain why the Fed has an unofficial third mandate: managing how credit flows through an economy that is increasingly outside the banks. With private credit and fixed-rate borrowing loosening the link between Fed policy and the real economy, Henry argues that rate hikes are hitting consumers and weaker borrowers while large corporates and the AI complex keep borrowing almost regardless of cost. That bifurcation, he says, means the Fed may have to take rates higher than anyone expects to cool demand, adding risk to markets. Jack and Henry discuss the opacity of private credit, why the credit cycle is "one of the most dependable things in finance," why recoveries on software loans could be close to zero, and the lessons of BDCs in 2008. Henry also shares how GMO is positioning in fixed income: less duration and less vanilla credit risk, more short-duration structured credit, and a preference for emerging market local debt. They close on the dollar, where long-term rates are headed, and the fiscal reckoning coming for Social Security. Recorded September 17, 2026.


    “Triple Mandate” by Henry Peabody: https://www.gmo.com/americas/research-library/triple-mandate_whitepaper/

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    Energy Shock and Rate Hikes Could Cause a 2022 Style Bear Market | Eric Wallerstein | Clocktower Group Sep 23, 2026
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    Eric Wallerstein, Chief Macro Strategist at Clocktower Group, joins OPM to discuss why he sees substantial risk that the Fed is making a policy mistake by hiking into a supply shock that could cause a 2022 style bear market. He also explores the global coordination of rate hikes and why he believes the participation of lower growth economies like Canada indicate that this is a reaction to higher energy prices and not a substantially higher global neutral rate.


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    JFMW Partners LLC (“Promoter”) is providing this endorsement of, and information related to, the advisory services offered by Namsoft Advisors LLC ("Namsoft"). Promoter is not a current client or investor in any Namsoft advisory account or private fund. Promoter receives cash compensation from Namsoft in the form of a flat referral fee of $750 for each client that engages Namsoft as a result of Promoter's promotional activities. Because Promoter is compensated for this endorsement, a material conflict of interest exists, as Promoter has a financial incentive to promote Namsoft's services to you. This endorsement is delivered as part of a podcast or other audio program produced by Promoter and does not constitute investment advice or a recommendation that any particular advisory arrangement is suitable for you.


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    00:56 Fed Hike and Higher for Longer

    02:30 Oil Driving Global Yields

    05:58 Canada and Global Neutral Rate

    07:14 Energy Crisis and Degrowth Risks

    08:44 Politicized Fed and Credibility

    11:50 Neutral Rate and AI CapEx Boom

    14:47 Inflation Outlook and Policy Mistakes

    17:20 Plutus Sponsor Break

    18:46 Key Data to Watch: Bank Lending

    20:07 Doves vs Hawks and Fiscal Drag

    23:30 2022 Style Bear Market Setup

    25:56 What Could Invalidate the Thesis?

    26:41 BOJ Hike and Yen Intervention

    31:20 Korea Silicon Boom

    35:43 Europe Under Pressure

    39:25 Middle East Outlook

    43:06 Midterm Issues: AI vs. Gas Prices

    48:34 China Oil Strategy

    52:10 Big Calls Wrap


    Outlook on 5 Key Commodities: Metals Bull Market is Just Getting Started (Gold, Copper, & Uranium) | Jérémie Boyer | Aurelion Sep 20, 2026
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    Jérémie Boyer, co-founder of Aurelion Research, joins OPM to give his outlook for 5 key commodities. He explains why after avoiding earlier downside volatility in gold he just got the buy signal he’s been waiting for, and why the longer-term AI driven bull thesis on copper is very real and happening now. He also gives his outlook for uranium, fertilizer, and oil and discusses how he and his partner turn commodity views into a portfolio of equities that is up over 100% since inception a little over 1-year ago.


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    JFMW Partners LLC (“Promoter”) is providing this endorsement of, and information related to, the advisory services offered by Namsoft Advisors LLC ("Namsoft"). Promoter is not a current client or investor in any Namsoft advisory account or private fund. Promoter receives cash compensation from Namsoft in the form of a flat referral fee of $750 for each client that engages Namsoft as a result of Promoter's promotional activities. Because Promoter is compensated for this endorsement, a material conflict of interest exists, as Promoter has a financial incentive to promote Namsoft's services to you. This endorsement is delivered as part of a podcast or other audio program produced by Promoter and does not constitute investment advice or a recommendation that any particular advisory arrangement is suitable for you.


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    02:16 Why Gold Could Hit 5K

    05:45 Geopolitics Over Rates

    09:24 Portfolio Positioning

    12:28 Managing Miner Cycles

    16:26 Plutus

    18:26 Bearish Oil & Fertilizer

    20:28 Oil Thesis & China Inventories

    33:23 Royalties as Exposure

    36:07 Valuing Royalty Companies

    42:48 Why Uranium Now

    46:10 Uranium Contracts & Supply

    51:10 Energy Security and Nuclear Buildout

    54:31 Copper Bull Case in AI Era

    01:00:05 Picking Copper Stocks

    01:06:43 Five Commodities Recap

    01:11:26 Closing and Where to Follow


    Why The 30-Year Treasury Lost Its Biggest Buyers | David Busch on Why High Yields Are Attractive Right Now Sep 19, 2026
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    Jack Farley is joined by David Busch, Chief Investment Officer of Trajan Wealth, to discuss rising U.S. Treasury yields, persistent inflation, and the Federal Reserve's monetary policy trajectory. Busch breaks down the structural drivers behind elevated bond yields, including $40 trillion in national debt, geopolitical energy shocks, and massive corporate debt issuance for AI infrastructure. He explains how higher interest rates and Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent’s bond buyback program impact market liquidity and equity valuations. Moving to equities, Busch argues that software stocks like Intuit are heavily oversold regarding perceived AI disruption risks. He highlights the real bottleneck of the AI boom, pointing to critical supply needs in energy, rare earth minerals, and nuclear power. Busch also warns investors about hidden credit and liquidity dangers within private credit markets. Finally, he lays out why 3-to-5-year U.S. Treasuries still serve as an essential portfolio ballast in high-yield regimes.


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    Hawks Take Flight | Joseph Wang on Fed’s Hawkish Hike and Warsh’s Gameplan Sep 16, 2026
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    This Monetary Matters episode is brought to you by Fiscal.ai. Get 15% off any paid tier at: ⁠https://fiscal.ai/mm/


    Former Fed trader Joseph Wang joins Jack Farley live to break down Chair Kevin Warsh's third meeting — and his first rate hike, framed as "removing a dose of accommodation" against a Middle East oil-shock backdrop. Joseph explains why he called the hawkish move well ahead of the consensus, reading the Jackson Hole signals on financial conditions and the new emphasis on the "speed" of returning to target. The conversation digs into the hawkish dot plot and higher-for-longer path, what a supply-shock reaction function means for the long bond and 30-year TIPS, mortgage rates above 7%, and the plumbing beneath it all — repo, SOFR, the basis trade, and Treasury buybacks. In the second half, Max Wiethe joins to make the case for refiners as the trade of the year, walking through crack spreads, Marathon and Valero, Chinese crude flows, and diesel and fertilizer dynamics. They close on long-bond convexity versus the rate sensitivity of the AI and neocloud buildout, and why Max thinks estimates for names like Lam Research are far too low. A wide-ranging live reaction spanning the Fed's hardest decision in years and the market's response. Recorded September 16, 2026.


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    Hunting for Value in Mining Stocks Amid Soaring Metals Prices | Freddy Brick | Muddy Waters Capital Sep 13, 2026
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    Precious metal and base metal prices have soared as have many mining stocks, but despite this, Freddy Brick, partner at Muddy Waters Capital says that the industry feels closer to left for dead than euphoric. He explains why that setup and the consistency of the mispricing in the sector brought them to launch a fund with the help of mining expert Darren McLean allowing them to take concentrated investments in the assets they think the market is overlooking while running lower net exposure. He also discusses how they think about hedging in the sector, why they take a bottom-up approach to portfolio construction, and how they approach short and long activism in the sector.


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    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    01:28 Approach to Portfolio Construction

    07:56 Fraud Report Origin

    09:35 Block Models Explained

    15:27 Why Juniors Are Distressed

    21:19 Finding Mispriced Projects

    25:12 Venture Like Investing

    28:25 Promoters and Capital Raising

    33:43 Sentiment and Cycles

    38:28 M&A Wave Ahead

    43:27 Trading Vol and Hedging

    46:57 Long Activism Approach

    50:23 Scaling the Strategy

    55:10 When Alpha Shows Up


    Why Farmland With Centuries of Water Is the Ultimate Scarce Asset | John Farris of LandFund Partners on Super El Niño, Food Security, and the Sources of Alpha in Farmland Sep 11, 2026
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    Learn more about LandFund Partners: https://landfundpartners.com/invest#get-started


    Jack Farley speaks with John Farris, founder & CEO of LandFund Partners and former World Bank agricultural economist, about the tightening global food equation — and where the return actually comes from in farmland.


    The setup: if the world stopped growing crops tomorrow, John says there are roughly 70 days of food in reserve, down from 110 a decade ago. Two billion more people, more protein per capita, less arable land, and productivity gains that have flattened out. Into that comes a Super El Niño that John's heat maps suggest will hit Brazil, Argentina, and India — the last of which depends on the monsoon to grow the world's most-consumed calorie: rice. Commodity futures prices have risen significantly this year.


    That's the backdrop. The investment argument rests on three things.The first is a value that sits on no balance sheet. Across most of the eastern US there are no formal water rights, so LandFund carries its water at zero. In the Colorado River states, where those rights did develop, they've compunded at roughly 11% a year over the past thirty-five years, outpacing the S&P 500 over that time period.John argues the same legal framework is coming to the Mid-South within ten years, pushed by the hyperscalers already knocking on his door for water offsets — and that when it arrives, a line item currently marked at nothing gets marked at something.


    The second leg is convergence. When LandFund started in 2013, Midwest row crop farmland traded roughly 140% above comparable Mid-South ground; today the gap is 80–100%. John's argument is that the gap should be zero, and that it inverts: land with 300 years of water, 93% irrigation, and the ability to rotate between ten and twenty crops is worth more than land that is high-quality soil but weather-dependent — not less. Iowa bets on rain. He doesn't have to.


    The third is operational. LandFund required regenerative practices in its lease agreements since 2021, and John walks through the J-curve economics: $50–100 an acre and a couple of lean years up front, then lower fertilizer use, fewer passes across the field, less irrigation, and net income he estimates runs 30–40% higher than it otherwise would — which flows straight into rents, which flow into rents.


    Also covered: the "dirty secret" of powering data centers using 100x the water they consume, riparian rights and what happens when states start metering overuse, what the One Big Beautiful Bill did to price floors through 2032, solar developers paying 3x farmland value for ground with transmission lines, and why US row crop farmland has been negatively correlated to both stocks and bonds.


    Disclaimer: This episode is a fireside chat sponsored by LandFund Partners. Any data, statistics, or information discussed is for informational purposes only. This is not an offer to sell securities. Past performance is not a guarantee of future results.


    About LandFund Partners: https://www.landfundpartners.com/#home


    LandFund's piece on water rights: https://www.forbes.com/councils/forbesfinancecouncil/2026/06/23/water-rights-the-invisible-asset-farmland-investors-are-beginning-to-price-in/


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    Timestamps

    0:00 Intro on John Farris and LandFund Partners

    4:22 70 Days of Food Reserves?

    7:45 Super El Niño Risk in 2026

    8:31 Iowa vs. the Mississippi Alluvial Aquifer

    13:49 Beating NCREIF and the S&P 500: The Playbook

    14:55 Water Reserves in Mississippi Alluvial Aquifer Are Immense

    20:51 "300 Years of Water at Current Draw Rates"

    26:28 Improving the Land and Regenerative farming

    32:40 Farm Subsidies and the One Big Beautiful Bill

    38:07 Crop rotation: cotton, corn, rice, soybeans

    42:53 Is rice the trade right now?

    46:39 Soybeans, fertilizer, and China buying again

    48:38 Rice at all-time highs

    50:11 Optionality beyond farming: Solar, Transmission Lines, Minerals

    55:27 Data Centers?

    56:09 What's next for LandFund

    1:00:37 Why Farmland Has Had Negative Correlation With Risk Assets

    1:04:35 Super El Niño: What to Expect

    1:06:51 Feeding ten billion people

    1:07:40 The 20-year outlook for all Four Crops


    What Actually Happens When a Life Insurer Fails (It's Worse Than a Bank) | Pranjal Drall and Andrew Granato on How Private Equity Turned Life Insurance Into a Taxpayer Backstop Sep 06, 2026
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    Andrew Granato, Assistant Professor of Law at the University of Texas at Austin, and Pranjal Drall, JD/PhD candidate at Yale, join Jack Farley to discuss their paper "Private Credit, State Backstop: How Private Equity Socializes Risk Through Insurers." Private equity ownership of life insurers has grown from roughly $23 billion in 2009 to about $700 billion by 2024, and Granato and Drall argue this has created a system that socializes losses even more sharply than federal deposit insurance does for banks. They walk through how state guarantee funds work: when a life insurer fails, its surviving rivals are assessed based on premium volume rather than risk, and in 44 states those assessments are recouped through tax credits, meaning taxpayers ultimately foot the bill without any vote ever taking place. The conversation covers how PE-linked insurers reallocate balance sheets into opaque private credit and affiliated loans, arbitrage ratings through firms like Egan-Jones and undisclosed private letter ratings, and use Bermuda "shadow reinsurance" to escape disclosure and capital requirements, with leverage reportedly running as high as 30-to-1 or 50-to-1. Jack and the guests also examine emerging run risk from funding agreement-backed notes (FABNs) and policy surrenders, using the Executive Life collapse as a historical precedent. The episode closes with the recent Guggenheim/Delaware Life/Clear Spring scandal, in which Mark Walter's insurers understated affiliated assets (including a loan to LeBron James) at 3% when the true figure was closer to 42%, prompting the sale of the Lakers to raise liquidity. Granato and Drall propose reforms including taxing opacity, banning private letter ratings, pre-funding guarantee funds on a risk-weighted basis, and making insurance holding companies partially liable for guarantee fund assessments. Recorded August 28, 2026.


    Paper by Pranjal Drall and Andrew Granato, “Private Credit's State Backstop: How Private Equity Socializes Risk Through Insurers”:

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=7152239


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    “I’m Insanely Bullish on Bonds” | Jared Dillian on Copper, Bonds, Semis, and The Awesome Portfolio Sep 03, 2026
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    Jared Dillian, author of The Daily Dirtmap and the new book “The Awesome Portfolio”, returns to argue that the bond bear market is a sentiment story that has gone too far. Jared calls the market's obsession with deficits and inflation a "mind virus," notes that the $2 trillion deficit is only 6% of GDP versus 12% in 2010, and points out that everyone measures bond supply while nobody measures demand. He has moved a large share of his own money into long bonds as a three-to-five-year hold, calling 5.2–5.3% on 30s and 4.7% on 10s an incredible deal, especially with payrolls deteriorating, JOLTS and PMIs rolling over, and the market still pricing meaningful odds of a hike. On equities, Dillian walked the top 50 S&P charts and sees semis, healthcare, and financials topping — the broker-dealers look worst — while Intel and Oracle look like they're bottoming. He and Jack debate whether the semiconductor washout is over, disagree on where the leverage actually sits (Jack cites Vanda data showing retail positioning in semis near two-year lows), and Dillian warns that the Situational Awareness blowup was the Bear Stearns of this cycle, not the Lehman. He explains why he thinks AI is a bubble for a reason specific to this cycle: it's the first time in his career he's seen tech financed with debt rather than equity, at 6% coupons, for assets that go obsolete in three years. He also lays out his cautiously bullish gold view, why copper is his least favorite metal, why private credit still hasn't found a bottom, and the case for The Awesome Portfolio — equal weights in stocks, bonds, gold, cash, and real estate, which gives up one to two points of annual return but halves volatility and has never drawn down more than 12%. Recorded September 1, 2026.


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