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**Monero Talk**

Monero Talk broadcasts weekly conversations on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/c/monerotalk) with topical guests to understand what the Monero cryptocurrency is today and what it hopes to become. We strive to give birth to new Monero users by simply reporting on the facts in our search to answer the question–Is Monero the truest cryptocurrency of them all? In staying true to the Monero ethos, we aim to always be skeptical. While we are Monero Talk by name, and Monero devotees at heart, the intention of the show is to ultimately discover and support the one blockchain that is most aligned with the original cypherpunk and crypto-anarchist ideals that cryptocurrency was born from. And the one that is most likely to succeed at becoming true digital cash. So far, we believe Monero is the one. Guests include: The developers and researchers working on the open source core protocol and the cryptography behind it; The people building the projects and infrastructure supporting the protocol; Privacy advocates and people building privacy enhancing technologies; Analysts and investors speculating on Monero’s growth; Journalists and pundits weighing in on Monero’s place in the crypto-sphere; and Respected (sometimes controversial) contributors and community members. If you enjoyed the show & would like to support us, a donation of any size would be greatly appreciated and would mean so much! Monero (XMR) Donation Address: 47e6GvjL4in5Zy5vVHMb9PQtGXQAcFvWSCQn2fuwDYZoZRk3oFjefr51WBNDGG9EjF1YDavg7pwGDFSAVWC5K42CBcLLv5U

Latest Episodes:

MoneroTopia Episode 233! | Price, News & MUCH MORE! Sep 28, 2025

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TIMESTAMPS
(00:00:00) Monerotopia Introduction.
(00:28:55) Monerotopia News Segment w/ Tony.
(00:41:25) Digital Goods that popular among Monero User.
(00:42:03) How to get into XMR.
(00:45:21) Monero-Oxide Bug Bounty.
(00:46:37) MoneroKon in 2026.
(00:47:59) BTC open your eyes.
(00:49:41) How risky is Monero?
(00:51:46) Qubic.
(00:52:49) Mining Pool stats.
(00:54:59) Monero Received Nearly $1m donations in 2025.
(00:57:15) Mark of the beast UK.
(01:03:39) Netanyahu
(01:09:42) Trump signed executive order making TikTok deal oficial.
(01:17:01) New social media Monnet.
(01:17:48) HealthRanger post.
(01:20:01) Monerotopia Price Report Segment w/ Bawdyanarchist.
(02:12:30) Monerotopia Guest Segment w/ Tux and Bawdy.
(02:44:21) Monerotopia Viewers on Stage Segment.
(03:11:20) Monerotopia Finalization.

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Monero's "Big Tent" culture w/ Monero Matteo | EPI 362 Sep 24, 2025

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TODAY'S SHOW: In this episode of MoneroTalk Douglas Tuman sits down with Monero Matteo for a discussion on Monero and its future. Matteo shares why he seldom does interviews, his work as an accountant specializing in Monero, and the challenges of helping businesses adopt privacy-focused tools.

They dive into Monero’s potential for decentralized capital markets, business-friendly features like view keys and transaction tagging, and hurdles such as accessibility and accounting integration. The discussion also explores Monero’s philosophy—privacy as resistance to surveillance, the role of proof-of-work, and the community’s “big tent” culture. The episode closes with reflections on freedom, ethics, and Monero’s role in protecting human autonomy.

TIMESTAMPS:
(00:01:08) Intro and Matteo's Current Activities in Alaska
(00:06:35) Matteo as the "Monero Accountant" and Client Misconceptions
(00:09:32) Exciting Developments in Monero Technology
(00:14:36) Accounting Challenges with Monero and Potential Solutions
(00:38:30) Barriers to Monero Adoption
(00:54:26) The Cultural Aspects of Monero and Its Community
(01:02:31) Ethical Use Cases and Presentation of Monero
(01:08:02) Philosophical Implications of Privacy and Freedom
(01:14:16) Technology, Humanity, and Monero's Future

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Dr. Kapil gives a BasicSwap update! Price Report, News of the week & MUCH More! | EPI 232 Sep 21, 2025

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TIMESTAMPS
(00:00:00) Monerotopia Introduction.
(01:03:54) Monerotopia Price Report Segment w/ Bawdyanarchist.
(01:30:28) Monerotopia Guest Segment 1 w/ Dr Kap.
(02:00:19) Monerotopia Guest Segment 2 w/ Ofrnxmr.
(03:02:20) Monerotopia Viewers on Stage Segment.
(03:03:10) Monerotopia News Segment w/ Doug.
(03:03:50) Proton VPN.
(03:04:39) Attorney General Pam Bondi.
(03:07:25) FUD spreads.
(03:14:27) New version of P2Pool.
(03:15:55) TradeOgre.
(03:23:50) Cake Wallet new feature.
(03:24:41) Murray Post.
(03:26:24) Tucker Carlson.
(03:28:31) The Monero community has raised.
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(03:42:52) Monerotopia Finalization.

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MoneroTopia Episode 231! | Price, News & MUCH MORE! Sep 14, 2025

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TIMESTAMPS
(00:00:00) Monerotopia Introduction.
(00:19:27) Monerotopia Price Report Segment w/ Bawdyanarchist.
(01:34:50) Monerotopia News Segment w/ Tony.
(01:35:42) Nepal Protests.
(01:40:43) Iryna murals.
(01:42:41) Iryna’s judge doesn’t have a degree.
(01:44:11) Epstein files.
(01:44:35) Kraken withdrawals suspended.
(01:46:08) Jeffro256 proposal.
(01:47:29) Shopinbit stats.
(01:48:01) Xmr oxide.
(01:48:47) Coincards stats.
(01:49:50) XMR Oxide announcement.
(01:50:27) EU and chat control.
(01:54:45) Budget Monero Mining rig.
(01:55:45) Charlie Kirk.
(02:00:14) Erika Kirk speech.
(02:05:14) Charlie Kirk theory.
(02:07:35) Vax injuries.
(02:19:30) FinCEN is finalizing patriot act "mixer rule".
(02:25:13) Monerotopia Viewers on Stage Segment.
(02:48:35) Monerotopia Guest Segment w/ Wizard.
(03:16:42) Monerotopia Finalization.

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If It Isn’t PoW, It Isn’t Decentralized w/ Dr. K | EPI 361 Sep 08, 2025

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TODAY'S SHOW: In this episode of Monero Talk, host Douglas Tuman interviews Dr. K, a proof-of-work researcher with over eight years of experience. They dive into Monero’s ongoing “qubic attack,” where mining pool Qubic controls ~35% of the network’s hash rate and causes chain reorganizations.

Dr. K, whose background spans ConsenSys, Grid Plus (creator of the Lattice One wallet), and a National Science Foundation grant for PoW research, proposes a fix: work shares. By sampling multiple proofs per block instead of one, work shares make the network resistant to attacks from miners with less than 51% hash power. Dr. K is already drafting a pull request to add this to Monero’s code.The discussion also explores why Dr. K views proof-of-work as superior to proof-of-stake—emphasizing immutability, permissionlessness, and competitive fairness—and his own project, Quiet Network (QUI), a scalable PoW blockchain with an energy-based token (QI) designed for stable purchasing power.

TIMESTAMPS:
(00:02:28) Dr. K introduces himself and his background
(00:04:44) Dr. K's crypto journey and early experiences
(00:14:21) Dr. K's views on privacy in cryptocurrency
(00:18:45) Dr. K explains why he's a proof of work maximalist
(00:29:03) Discussion of proof of stake vs. proof of work
(00:41:13) Dr. K introduces work shares as a solution to Monero's problems
(00:48:09) Technical details of implementing work shares in Monero
(01:15:06) Comparison of work shares to other proposed solutions
(01:31:22) Introduction to Quiet Network and Qi
(01:38:49) Closing thoughts on unity in the cryptocurrency community

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MoneroTopia Price Report, News of the week & MUCH More! | EPI 230 Sep 07, 2025

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TIMESTAMPS
(00:00:00) Monerotopia Introduction.
(00:25:43) Monerotopia Price Report Segment w/ Bawdyanarchist.
(01:17:00) Monerotopia News Segment w/ Tony.
(01:21:45) XMR Cards.
(01:23:54) Azores meetup sponsored by FixedFloat.com
(01:25:25) BCH Bank Run.
(01:26:54) How cool would be if the phone supported solo mining?
(01:28:07) World Libery Financials.
(01:30:37) Choose Monero.
(01:32:16) Stay away from OpenMonero.
(01:34:19) Qubic's price is collapsing.
(01:34:55) "It's all a Psyop"
(01:37:41) Trump was an FBI informant?
(01:40:19) Epstein/Maxwell Survivors.
(01:41:48) Monero has 2 main options.
(01:46:58) Monerotopia Guest Segment w/ Alessandro Dmitruk and Jan.
(02:28:39) Monerotopia Viewers on Stage Segment.
(03:30:56) Monerotopia Finalization.

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Vini Barbosa’s unfiltered take on the Monero selfish mining attacks and PoW | EPI 360 Sep 01, 2025

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TODAY'S SHOW: In this episode of Monero Talk Douglas Tuman has a discussion with Vinny Barbosa, a Brazilian crypto writer and privacy advocate, about the current challenges facing the Monero network, particularly the ongoing selfish mining attacks by the Qubic pool.

The conversation explores both short-term and long-term solutions, including the proposed "Publish or Perish" soft fork to disincentivize selfish mining, defensive mining strategies, and the controversial idea of incorporating proof-of-stake elements or a finality layer to enhance network security. Vinny argues that while Monero’s proof-of-work and ASIC resistance are valuable for decentralization and permissionless mining, all proof-of-work systems are inherently vulnerable to such attacks, and the community should remain open to researching hybrid or alternative consensus models without ideological dogma.

The dialogue emphasizes the importance of open debate, technical innovation, and community resilience in navigating Monero’s current crisis, while also touching on broader themes of digital cash, sovereignty, and interoperability with other privacy and scalable cryptocurrencies like Zcash and Nano.

TIMESTAMPS:
00:06:56 Vinny's Crypto Journey and Current Work
00:12:17 Discussion of Qubic Pool Attack
00:17:25 Debate on Proof-of-Work vs. Proof-of-Stake
00:24:21 The "Publish or Perish" Proposal
00:54:54 Challenging Common Arguements Against Proof of Stake
01:04:48 Broader Discussion on Privacy Coins

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MoneroTopia Episode EPI 229! Price Report, News of the week & More! | EPI 229 Aug 31, 2025

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TIMESTAMPS
(00:00:00) Monerotopia Introduction.
(00:40:46) Monerotopia Price Report Segment w/ Bawdyanarchist.
(01:30:30) Monerotopia Guest Segment w/ John Spounias.
(01:57:54) Monerotopia Viewers on Stage Segment.
(02:36:42) Monerotopia News Segment w/ Doug.
(02:37:09) Trump signs order to crack down on flag burning.
(02:43:12) Thomas Massie post.
(02:44:!5) Why Monero is so important for people.
(02:45:42) A veteran has been arrested for burning an American flag.
(02:46:42) Ice hunts down immigrants by spying on their wire transfers.
(02:47:57) SethForPrivacy Post.
(02:49:20) Selfish mining mitigations.
(02:54:55) Former Soldier calls for using "Gideon" Pre-Crime tool to stop school shootings.
(02:58:12) Incident Report for Kraken.
(02:59:35) Come From Beyond.
(03:08:23) Jim O'Neil.
(03:09:59) Back to Viewers on Stage.
(03:54:59) Monerotopia Finalization.

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MoneroTopia Episode 228 Monero Price Report, News of the week & MUCH More! EPI 228 Aug 24, 2025

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TIMESTAMPS
(00:00:00) Monerotopia Introduction.
(00:36:44) Monerotopia Price Report Segment w/ Bawdyanarchist.
(01:22:28) Monerotopia News Segment w/ Tony.
(01:23:27) German school cafeteria to adopt crypto.
(01:24:47) Xmr job opportunity.
(01:27:45) Kraken delisting xmr in CA.
(01:29:01) Coincards + xmr.
(01:30:21) Dero inflation?
(01:31:55) Trump’s communism?
(01:33:53) Odysee to implement xmr.
(01:34:56) 50k$ of xmr.
(01:35:20) Don’t forget the foundation.
(01:37:14) Pony on self mining attacks.
(01:39:05) US DOJ statement after tornado cash verdict.
(01:40:32) Foundry USA.
(01:40:50) BTC mining pools.
(01:43:17) MEXC limits withdrawals.
(01:44:25) XMR is live on unstoppable.
(01:48:33) Are 51% attacks legal?
(01:52:14) Tux xmr video.
(01:56:59) XMR rock song.
(02:01:56) Monerotopia Guest Segment w/ Mr. Wonderland.
(02:46:11) Monerotopia Viewers on Stage Segment.
(03:16:09) Monerotopia Finalization.

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The attacks on Monero’s POW consensus system continue + Price, News & More! | EPI 227 Aug 17, 2025

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TIMESTAMPS
(00:00:00) Monerotopia Introduction.
(00:41:20) Monerotopia Price Report Segment w/ Bawdyanarchist.
(01:09:34) Monerotopia Guest Segment w/ Bawdy.
(01:40:04) Monerotopia News Segment w/ Tux.
(01:40:35) Frank Corva post.
(01:42:01) Peter Van Valkenburgh post.
(01:42:41) Developer arrested over Tornado Cash research.
(01:44:35) Bot psyop and FUD attack.
(01:45:32) Doug post on X (1).
(01:45:47) 51% attack.
(01:47:11) Funding sources for Qubic.
(01:47:50) SethForPrivacy post.
(01:49:57) Qubic is a Ponzi scheme disguised as useful mining?
(01:51:58) Lola post.
(01:53:52) BCH to XMR.
(01:54:47) Doug post on X (2).
(01:56:27) Stanford researchers develop brain implant.
(01:57:07) Time Adjusted Blockweight.
(02:01:27) Monerotopia Viewers on Stage Segment.
(04:57:06) Monerotopia Finalization.

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