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    Milenomics ² Podcast – No Annual Fee Edition

    A Milenomics Production– News related to Points and Miles. Tips & Tricks on how to Earn More miles, Maximize Credit Card Rewards, and Travel more than ever before.

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    Episode 39: Emirates Fuel Surcharges/Instagram Live Jun 02, 2020
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    Update: Here's link to the Instagram Live video

    Last week Emirates greatly reduced taxes + fees on awards on their metal using their Skywards miles.

    That's great for those who want to fly Emirates metal, especially since we can transfer bank points to Skywards 1:1 across so many programs. But the place a lot of us immediately went with this was to wonder...

    Did Emirates also reduce fuel surcharges on partner awards?

    That curiosity led to more questions...

    • Can partner awards (like Japan Airlines) be booked online? (looks like "no")
    • Can taxes + fees be accurately estimated online? (also "no")
    • The Emirates chart for travel on JAL from North America to Japan is pretty favorable. 125,000 pp roundtrip in Business, 185,000 pp roundtrip in First. Can partner awards be booked as a one-way for half the miles of a roundtrip? ("no")
    • Partners like JAL open their schedule at 360 days. How far out can you book an Emirates partner award? (330 days)
    • How good is Emirates call center?

    I called Emirates a couple times last week and got conflicting answers.

    The first rep said their systems were down and she couldn't estimate taxes + fees for partner awards. Call back tomorrow.

    I called right back a moment later and a second rep said he could estimate taxes + fees on JAL parner awards, but said it wasn't possible to use Emirates miles on North America to Japan routes. I pointed out that their site has a table for the route and he came back and agreed it was possible after all. And that the cost of a roundtrip flight from Boston to Tokyo on JAL in Business Class would be 125,000 pp roundtrip + just $60 in taxes and fees.

    That's pretty tremendous, if true, because when Spencer Howard checked it in September 2019 it was $360 in taxes + fees.

    What happened? Did JAL decrease the fuel surcharges? Did Emirates reduce the amount of fuel surcharges they collect on partner awards? Was the rep I spoke to mistaken?

    I frequently come across articles Spencer has written when researching foreign carrier frequent flyer program awards so I thought it would be informative and interesting to discuss this and more.

    Instagram Live

    I'm planning to appear on Instagram Live with Spencer to discuss this, award travel, and more.

    Where: Instagram Live https://www.instagram.com/straighttothepoints/ When: Wednesday, June 3rd, 2020, 7:30p eastern

    In the mean time, I hope you enjoy this snippet from our paid show here on the No Annual Fee version of our podcast.

    The Emirates topic is just 5 minutes out of an hour and twenty minute show this week. The breaking news we discuss is a Chase 1.5 cent per point cashout opportunity, along with a dozen other topics. If you'd like to hear more of the show head over to Patron and subscribe...

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    Episode 38: Maximizing Amex 20,000 Point Referrals Apr 16, 2020
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    Check your Business Platinum and Personal Gold cards for 20,000 referrals

    We’ve been seeing [targeted] heightened 20,000 Membership Reward “Blue Star” referrals come and go on Amex Business Platinum and Personal Gold cards. Right now they seem to be “in season” with a high percentage of these cards showing heightened referral bonuses.

    Update: Others are reporting seeing this one Personal Platinum and Business Gold as well.

    In this write-up and Milenomics Short Cut podcast episode, we’ll cover how how to maximize this referral opportunity.

    If you’re new to Amex referrals, have a look this post:

    Generating and Using an Amex Referral

    To check whether you’re targeted, go here and click through each of your cards especially the Business Platinum and Personal Gold cards:

    americanexpress.com/refer

    Here are the topics we went over:

    You can refer a wide variety of Amex cards from either of these cards

    Don’t think you’re limited to referring for just these two cards. With Amex universal referral, your friend can sign up for a wide variety of Amex Membership Reward cards, plus co-branded cards like Hilton and Delta.

    With Amex the referral bonus is based on the card you refer from

    Regardless of which card your friend signs up for, the referral bonus is based on the card you refer from. That’s pretty unusual if you think about it. Amex has high signup bonuses for their flagship cards with high annual fees. But referrals are based on which card you refer from. This means your friend can sign up for a lowly no annual fee card, and you can still get 20,000 Membership Rewards if the card you’re referring from has been targeted.

    These 20,000 Membership Reward Referrals are Targeted

    Some people are targeted and some are not. Some cards are targeted and some are not. You can have two of the exact same card and you may see one targeted with 20,000 point referral capacity and the other card remains at 10,000 points. It even varies from day to day. If you see this offer, you may want to pounce on it. But you don’t necessarily need to use it immediately. More on that below. They can be “squirreled away.”

    We’ve heard that some people are temporarily blocked from generating Amex referrals. We call this a “penalty box” which is usually a timeout that heals itself after time, but it’s unclear what causes it and how to get out of it.

    The welcome bonuses are often better (on some cards) if you go incognito

    “Going incognito” to see better offers (or at least different offers) is definitely a thing. Amex is notorious for displaying different welcome bonuses depending on how “come at them.”

    Take for example the 40,000 point welcome bonus associated with the Amex Personal Gold card in the image at the top of this post. When I click through that referral link I sometimes see 40,000 and other times I see 50,000.

    First, compare notes with others on what the best current bonus is for a given card. Then try to get that offer to come up. You can check desktop or mobile. Chrome or Firefox. Try going incognito/private. Try connecting to a VPN in another part of the country. Any of these can cause the welcome bonus to change. Crazy, right?

    In some cases, referral welcome bonuses are worse than public non-referral offers

    It stinks when a bank makes a referral offer worse than a public offer. It happens from time to time, but I don’t think it’s necessarily malice on their part. Offers through various channels just vary, or in some cases lag one another.

    For example, we recentl


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