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    Michael Covel’s Trend Following

    Bestselling author Michael Covel is the host of Trend Following Radio with 15+ million listens. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trading — all passionately explored and debated. Guests include Nobel Prize winners: Robert Aumann, Angus Deaton, Daniel Kahneman, Oliver Hart, Harry Markowitz & Vernon Smith. More guests: Jack Canfield, Howard Marks, James Altucher, Dan Ariely, Jean-Philippe Bouchaud, Kathleen Eisenhardt, Marc Faber, Tim Ferriss, Jason Fried, Gerd Gigerenzer, Larry Hite, Sally Hogshead, Ryan Holiday, Jack Horner, Ewan Kirk, Steven Kotler, Michael Mauboussin, Tucker Max, Barry Ritholtz, Jim Rogers, Jack Schwager, Ed Seykota, Philip Tetlock & Walter Williams. 1200+ episodes.

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    Ep. 260: Sally Hogshead Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio Jul 27, 2014
    Show notes

    My guest today is Sally Hogshead, a New York Times bestselling author, National Speakers Association Hall of Fame speaker, chief executive officer of How to Fascinate (Fascinate, Inc) and a former advertising executive.

    The topic is her book How The World Sees You: Discover Your Highest Value Through The Science of Fascination.

    In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

    • Fascination and paying attention
    • The seven different categories of things that fascinate us
    • What those who fascinate have in common
    • Developing a personality assessment that shows how the world sees you
    • Understanding your own personal branding
    • Analyzing Michael Covel's own fascination survey
    • Not being a commodity
    • Why if you're not generating a negative reaction from someone, you're probably not fascinating anyone
    • Why you don't want to be vanilla ice cream

    Jump in!

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    I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show.

    To start? I'd like to give you a great piece of advice you can use in your life and trading journey… cut your losses! You will find much more about that philosophy here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/trend/

    You can watch a free video here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/video/

    Can't get enough of this episode? You can choose from my thousand plus episodes here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/podcast

    My social media platforms: Twitter: @covel Facebook: @trendfollowing LinkedIn: @covel Instagram: @mikecovel

    Hope you enjoy my never-ending podcast conversation!


    Ep. 259: Bucky Isaacson Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio Jul 24, 2014
    Show notes

    My guest today is Bucky Isaacson, one of the early pioneers of managed futures. In 1969, he helped to develop one of the first computerized trading systems. He's been involved in the managed futures industry ever since, particularly in Asia and the US.

    The topic is managed futures.

    In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

    • Fractured state of conferences these days
    • What it was like to be involved with a group developing a computerized trading system in 1969
    • Being with one of the earliest incarnations of a managed futures firm
    • Trading attitudes
    • Marketing and doing business in Asia
    • Differences in business practices between Asian countries
    • Refco, MF Global, PFG and other aberrations that have damaged the Chicago futures brand
    • Madoff as a marketer
    • Raising the initial capital to start a trading venture
    • How to differentiate yourself from a marketing perspective
    • Growth in the managed futures industry

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    I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show.

    To start? I'd like to give you a great piece of advice you can use in your life and trading journey… cut your losses! You will find much more about that philosophy here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/trend/

    You can watch a free video here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/video/

    Can't get enough of this episode? You can choose from my thousand plus episodes here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/podcast

    My social media platforms: Twitter: @covel Facebook: @trendfollowing LinkedIn: @covel Instagram: @mikecovel

    Hope you enjoy my never-ending podcast conversation!


    Ep. 258: Megan McArdle Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio Jul 20, 2014
    Show notes

    My guest today is Megan McArdle, a Bloomberg View columnist who writes on economics, business and public policy. She founded the blog "Asymmetrical Information".

    The topic is her book The Up Side of Down: Why Failing Well Is the Key to Success.

    In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

    • "Trophy kids" and taking the monkey bars away
    • The idea of a regulator out there trying to guarantee our safety
    • Why the companies that make it aren't the ones with the best strategic plan–it's the ones that execute (and fail well)
    • The power of experimentation
    • Nobel winner Vernon Smith and experimentation
    • The idea of learning in crisis
    • How sunk costs are difficult for a large part of the population to grasp
    • Van Halen, errors, and M&M's
    • Normative error
    • Small, manageable risks
    • Forager morality vs. farmer morality
    • A story about Kentucky Fried Chicken (KFC)

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    I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show.

    To start? I'd like to give you a great piece of advice you can use in your life and trading journey… cut your losses! You will find much more about that philosophy here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/trend/

    You can watch a free video here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/video/

    Can't get enough of this episode? You can choose from my thousand plus episodes here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/podcast

    My social media platforms: Twitter: @covel Facebook: @trendfollowing LinkedIn: @covel Instagram: @mikecovel

    Hope you enjoy my never-ending podcast conversation!


    Ep. 257: Cullen Roche Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio Jul 17, 2014
    Show notes

    My guest today is Cullen Roche, the founder of Orcam Financial Group, a financial services company based out of San Diego. He also runs a very well-known blog called Pragmatic Capitalism (pragcap.com).

    The topic is his book Pragmatic Capitalism: What Every Investor Needs to Know About Money and Finance.

    In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

    • Entrepreneurism
    • Investing in yourself
    • The advantages of starting a blog
    • Why the word "pragmatic" is a word that has become central to Roche's universe
    • Eliminating your biases
    • Why the US going bankrupt is a myth
    • The myth that central banks exist to enrich bankers
    • Dr. Laurie Santos and her work with monkeys
    • Bringing risk down to something we can measure
    • Warren Buffett
    • Hedging your bets

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    I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show.

    To start? I'd like to give you a great piece of advice you can use in your life and trading journey… cut your losses! You will find much more about that philosophy here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/trend/

    You can watch a free video here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/video/

    Can't get enough of this episode? You can choose from my thousand plus episodes here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/podcast

    My social media platforms: Twitter: @covel Facebook: @trendfollowing LinkedIn: @covel Instagram: @mikecovel

    Hope you enjoy my never-ending podcast conversation!


    Ep. 256: Mike Harris Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio Jul 14, 2014
    Show notes

    My guest today is Mike Harris, the President of Campbell & Company (3B+ AUM), the systematic trading firm started by Keith Campbell (Campbell was featured in Covel's first book Trend Following).

    The topic is Trend Following.

    In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

    • Systematic trading in the early 70's
    • Education about managed futures
    • Correlation with other markets and managers
    • Trading diverse markets
    • Focusing on data rather than the fundamentals
    • Why "commodities" and "CTA" are misnomers
    • Why Harris wouldn't fly down to Brazil to investigate fundamental information on the coffee market
    • Risk management, drawdowns, and taking small losses; dealing with uncertainty and helping clients to understand the uncertain nature of trading
    • How human emotion often gets in the way of profitable trading
    • The efficient market hypothesis and behavioral finance
    • Continuity and how that has been thought through at Campbell & Company
    • The Sharpe ratio and why it isn't the best way to look at systematic traders
    • Why being defensive is central to being a great absolute return trader

    Jump in!

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    I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show.

    To start? I'd like to give you a great piece of advice you can use in your life and trading journey… cut your losses! You will find much more about that philosophy here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/trend/

    You can watch a free video here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/video/

    Can't get enough of this episode? You can choose from my thousand plus episodes here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/podcast

    My social media platforms: Twitter: @covel Facebook: @trendfollowing LinkedIn: @covel Instagram: @mikecovel

    Hope you enjoy my never-ending podcast conversation!


    Ep. 255: Tyler Cowen Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio Jul 09, 2014
    Show notes

    My guest today is Tyler Cowen, an American economist, columnist and blogger. He is a professor at George Mason University, where he holds the Holbert L. Harris chair in the economics department. He hosts the economics blog Marginal Revolution, together with co-author Alex Tabarrok.

    The topic is economics.

    In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

    • Sabermetrics and the new idea that we will be judged by numbers
    • Cowen's early experience studying under Nobel Prize winner Thomas Schelling
    • The notion of thinking in terms of paradoxes
    • Why we're moving from the 1% to the 15%
    • "Average is over" and why Singapore and Israel are the two places in the world where this has come true first
    • Problems because of "average is over" in Singapore
    • Pure free markets
    • Thinking about why past regulations have failed
    • How computers change us
    • Globalization, where things are headed, and what we should be prepared for
    • Zero marginal product workers

    Jump in!

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    I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show.

    To start? I'd like to give you a great piece of advice you can use in your life and trading journey… cut your losses! You will find much more about that philosophy here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/trend/

    You can watch a free video here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/video/

    Can't get enough of this episode? You can choose from my thousand plus episodes here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/podcast

    My social media platforms: Twitter: @covel Facebook: @trendfollowing LinkedIn: @covel Instagram: @mikecovel

    Hope you enjoy my never-ending podcast conversation!


    Ep. 254: William Poundstone Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio Jul 06, 2014
    Show notes

    My guest today is William Poundstone, an American author, columnist, and skeptic. He has written a number of books including the Big Secrets series and a biography of Carl Sagan.

    The topic is his book Fortune's Formula: The Untold Story of the Scientific Betting System That Beat the Casinos and Wall Street.

    In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

    • Claude Shannon
    • The connection between Al Capone
    • The Kelly formula, bookmaking, and the telephone industry
    • Bell Labs and information theory
    • Why, when betting, if there's a small chance of losing everything, you will eventually lose everything
    • Criticisms of the Kelly criterion
    • Ed Thorp, blackjack, and card counting
    • Long-Term Capital Management
    • Martingale vs. Kelly
    • Early development of the Black-Scholes formula

    Jump in!

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    I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show.

    To start? I'd like to give you a great piece of advice you can use in your life and trading journey… cut your losses! You will find much more about that philosophy here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/trend/

    You can watch a free video here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/video/

    Can't get enough of this episode? You can choose from my thousand plus episodes here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/podcast

    My social media platforms: Twitter: @covel Facebook: @trendfollowing LinkedIn: @covel Instagram: @mikecovel

    Hope you enjoy my never-ending podcast conversation!


    Ep. 253: Perry Kaufman Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio Jul 02, 2014
    Show notes

    My guest today is Perry Kaufman, an American systematic trader, index developer, and quantitative financial theorist. He is considered a leading expert in the development of fully algorithmic trading programs.

    The topic is systematic trading.

    In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

    • How Kaufman came to the idea of 100% algorithmic trading systems
    • The difference between being systematic and being automated
    • Optimization vs. validation
    • The biggest advantages of testing
    • Why discretion is not part of Kaufman's toolbox
    • The problem of tail events
    • Why discipline is the most important characteristic of a systematic trader
    • The "loose pants fit everyone" philosophy
    • Preparing yourself for uncertainty
    • Comparisons between risk management and risk measurement
    • The Sharpe ratio
    • High volatility trades vs. low volatility
    • Why Kaufman places equal weight on both risk management and the underlying system
    • Systematic trading in established mature markets vs. emerging markets

    Jump in!

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    I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show.

    To start? I'd like to give you a great piece of advice you can use in your life and trading journey… cut your losses! You will find much more about that philosophy here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/trend/

    You can watch a free video here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/video/

    Can't get enough of this episode? You can choose from my thousand plus episodes here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/podcast

    My social media platforms: Twitter: @covel Facebook: @trendfollowing LinkedIn: @covel Instagram: @mikecovel

    Hope you enjoy my never-ending podcast conversation!


    Ep. 252: Ben Hunt Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio Jun 30, 2014
    Show notes

    My guest today is Ben Hunt, the Chief Risk Officer at Salient Partners. Salient is a 19B AUM manager based in Houston, Texas. As Chief Risk Officer, Hunt writes the Epsilon Theory, viewing capital markets through the lenses of game theory and history.

    The topic is Epsilon Theory.

    In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

    • Power of the crowd watching the crowd
    • Game theory
    • Having a profound agnosticism about what the future holds
    • The difference between risk and uncertainty in the context of game theory
    • The Panopticon and the chilling effect of being watched
    • The "common knowledge game" and the missionary
    • The island of the green-eyed tribe

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    I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show.

    To start? I'd like to give you a great piece of advice you can use in your life and trading journey… cut your losses! You will find much more about that philosophy here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/trend/

    You can watch a free video here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/video/

    Can't get enough of this episode? You can choose from my thousand plus episodes here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/podcast

    My social media platforms: Twitter: @covel Facebook: @trendfollowing LinkedIn: @covel Instagram: @mikecovel

    Hope you enjoy my never-ending podcast conversation!


    Ep. 251: Andrew Huszar Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio Jun 24, 2014
    Show notes

    My guest today is Andrew Huszar, a Senior Fellow at Rutgers Business School and also a former Morgan Stanley managing director. In 2009, he managed the Federal Reserve's 1.25 trillion dollar mortgage-backed security purchase program.

    The topic is the direction of the Federal Reserve.

    In this episode of Trend Following Radio we discuss:

    • Looking at the short term
    • Black swans
    • Huszar's history and how he came to work for the Federal Reserve
    • The changing of the banking model in the US from the 1980's to the late 2000's
    • Quantitative easing
    • Why Huszar ultimately left the Fed at the beginning of 2011
    • How the Fed has become over five times bigger in recent history
    • The current source of Wall Street money
    • The idea of an overly financialized US economy
    • The need for long-term structural changes in the US

    Jump in!

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    I'm MICHAEL COVEL, the host of TREND FOLLOWING RADIO, and I'm proud to have delivered 10+ million podcast listens since 2012. Investments, economics, psychology, politics, decision-making, human behavior, entrepreneurship and trend following are all passionately explored and debated on my show.

    To start? I'd like to give you a great piece of advice you can use in your life and trading journey… cut your losses! You will find much more about that philosophy here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/trend/

    You can watch a free video here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/video/

    Can't get enough of this episode? You can choose from my thousand plus episodes here: https://www.trendfollowing.com/podcast

    My social media platforms: Twitter: @covel Facebook: @trendfollowing LinkedIn: @covel Instagram: @mikecovel

    Hope you enjoy my never-ending podcast conversation!


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