Matthew and Paul

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Life After Cult: Matthew’s Journey Out of Darkness Jul 06, 2020

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On last week’s episode, Paul interviewed Matthew about the 10 years he and his family spent in the Advanced Training Institute; a cult started by self-proclaimed prophet, Bill Gothard. This week, the conversation continues as Matthew describes leaving the isolated world of the cult and adjusting to the “real world” for the first time. What excited him? What scared him? And most importantly, how did he grow? Join Our Family Support His and His on Patreon and get monthly bonus episodes, weekly extended episodes, and more! More info: https://www.patreon.com/hisandhis

Survivor: 10 Years in a Cult Jun 29, 2020

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On this special episode of His and His, Paul interviews Matthew about the decade he and his family spent trapped in a religious cult. From boyhood until his early twenties, Matthew belonged to an elite group called the Advanced Training Institute. Founded by a charismatic and often eccentric leader named Bill Gothard, ATI eventually accumulated thousands of devoted followers around the world. Matthew describes how he and his family fell into the cult life, the many abuses of power he witnessed, and the moment he felt that his life was over. Join Our Family Support His and His on Patreon and get monthly bonus episodes, weekly extended episodes, and more! More info: https://www.patreon.com/hisandhis

Flirting: Locker Rooms and Elevators Jun 15, 2020

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Matthew and Paul discuss the many nuances of flirting. Matthew describes his favorite flirting story with a speedo-clad gymnast, and Paul talks candidly about an unwanted experience that forever changed the way he flirts. Matthew and Paul also talk about the importance of trust in their relationship while answering the question, “Can flirting be considered cheating?” Join Our Family Support His and His on Patreon and get monthly bonus episodes, weekly extended episodes, and more! More info: https://www.patreon.com/hisandhis

Talk Therapy: Attempting Suicide and Surviving Cults Jun 08, 2020

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Matthew and Paul discuss their experience with talk therapy. Paul remembers his first therapy session in a church basement, while Matthew describes how Dialectic Behavior Therapy changed his life after leaving the cult. Matthew and Paul also talk about their discovery of Lifespan Integration Therapy, and how it has allowed them to heal from past traumas. To read more about the therapies discussed on this show, visit the His and His Patreon Page. Join Our Family Support His and His on Patreon and get monthly bonus episodes, weekly extended episodes, and more! More info: https://www.patreon.com/hisandhis

Blind Dates: Gay and Disabled May 25, 2020

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On last week’s episode, Paul discussed losing his vision to a rare genetic eye condition called Retinitis Pigmentosa. This week, Matthew and Paul continue their discussion by revealing how blindness affects their marriage, and the many ways in which they’ve adjusted. Paul also reflects on dating with a disability, bringing new meaning to the term “blind date”. Join Our Family Support His and His on Patreon and get monthly bonus episodes, weekly extended episodes, and more! More info: https://www.patreon.com/hisandhis

Going Blind: Paul's Journey into Darkness May 18, 2020

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In this special episode of His and His, Matthew interviews Paul about the rare disease that is causing him to go permanently blind. We learn about the first signs of sight loss, and his eventual diagnosis with the genetic condition Retinitis Pigmentosa. Paul explains how he dealt with the information at age 16, and why he wasn’t able to let himself grieve for several years. Paul also talks about choosing a career as a visual artist, and how he is able to produce artwork with limited vision. You can see Paul’s paintings and illustrations here: PaulCastleStudio.com Join Our Family Support His and His on Patreon and get monthly bonus episodes, weekly extended episodes, and more! More info: https://www.patreon.com/hisandhis

Burning Questions: Our Biggest Fight May 04, 2020

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Matthew and Paul answer another round of burning questions. Matthew reveals more about his struggles in the cult and the emotional entanglements that made it so hard to leave. We hear how he was forced to make a decision that would change the course of his life. Paul opens up about body image, his past with alcoholism, and the difficulties of losing his sight to a rare disease. The couple also reveal their biggest disagreement, and how they learned to deal with it and make their relationship stronger. Join Our Family Support His and His on Patreon and get monthly bonus episodes, weekly extended episodes, and more! More info: https://www.patreon.com/hisandhis

Burning Questions: Bathtubs and Chest Rubs Apr 27, 2020

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Matthew and Paul answer your burning questions. Matthew reveals one of his biggest dreams, and Paul opens up about anxiety. They also discuss how life has changed—and stayed the same—during quarantine. Join Our Family Support His and His on Patreon and get monthly bonus episodes, weekly extended episodes, and more! More info: https://www.patreon.com/hisandhis

Coming Out: Diaries and Dads Apr 20, 2020

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Matthew and Paul discuss their coming out stories. Matthew recounts being kicked out of his house for being gay, and Paul remembers the first time he felt proud of his sexuality. Also, Matthew and Paul ask their Dads to reflect on the experience. Join Our Family Support His and His on Patreon and get monthly bonus episodes, weekly extended episodes, and more! More info: https://www.patreon.com/hisandhis

Kissing: Spaghetti and Soap Operas Apr 06, 2020

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Matthew and Paul talk about their best, worst, and first kisses. Matthew describes a gay encounter in a religious cult when he was a teen, and Paul remembers his Disney-inspired first gay kiss. Support His and His on Patreon and get monthly bonus episodes, weekly extended episodes, and more! More info: https://www.patreon.com/hisandhis

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