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69: Aldrich Chan, PsyD – Well-Known Neuropsychologist, Award-Winning Author of Reassembling Models of Reality, and Founder of the Center for Neuropsychology and Consciousness (CNC) Shares his Experiences and Advice for Building a Successful Career Dec 19, 2023

Dr. Aldrich Chan was born in Canada, moved to Hong Kong for five years, moved to Seattle for two years, then moved to Costa Rica where he lived until he was 17 years old. When he thinks of home, he thinks of Costa Rica although he admits “Costa Ricans wouldn’t say I’m Costa Rican, the Canadians wouldn’t say I’m Canadian.” In this podcast, Dr. Chan shares his academic, professional, and a small part of his personal journey including what inspired him to specialize in neuropsychology and consciousness, how one can decide on which field or branch of psychology to focus, and we learn what it took for him to open his own practice and build a successful career in neuropsychology. Dr. Chan is a neuropsychologist, author of the award-winning book Reassembling Models of Reality: Theory and Clinical Practice published in the prestigious Interpersonal Neurobiology Series, and Founder of the Center for Neuropsychology and Consciousness (CNC), a practice in Miami, FL that provides neuropsychological and psychological services, education, cognitive remediation, and independent consultation. He always knew that he was interested in psychology and philosophy since high school, but it wasn’t until his second year in college that he specialized in psychology. He states, “by mid second year, I ended up taking abnormal psychology and sensation and perception and these courses really changed the direction of my life because I absolutely fell in love with those courses.” His parents wanted him to get into business and he suggested that he would go the psychology route to get into marketing. He wanted to get into a field where he could “include [himself] in the process of healing and use that knowledge in a way that is practical.” So, he ended up volunteering for many projects. During his volunteer work in Peru working at some orphanages, Dr. Chan realized a couple of things. First, he realized that he enjoyed working with people and was good at it. Second, his curiosity in sensation, perception, and psychology led him to decide to specialize in neuropsychology. He recalls, “I realized there’s so much information from neuroscience and psychology when put together could be so valuable to so many people and could really help direct treatment.” He then shares his experiences and research while attending Carleton University in Ottawa, ON Canada then at The Chicago School in Los Angeles, CA then at Pepperdine University in Malibu, CA where he received his PsyD in Clinical Psychology. In addition to his practice, Dr. Chan was sought out to teach as an Adjunct Professor for the doctoral program (ranked #5 Best PsyD program) and the master’s program (ranked #1, Best Online Master’s program) at Pepperdine University. He acts as the Course Lead for the master’s program and lectures on such topics as neuropsychology, consciousness, psychotherapy, interpersonal neurobiology, affective neuroscience, and cognitive psychology. During our discussion, Dr. Chan shares the significant experiences and people that helped shape his journey and career. For example, while working on his Master of Arts in Clinical Psychology, Marriage and Family Therapy at The Chicago School, he read a book that really inspired him called The Neuroscience of Psychotherapy by Louis Cozolino. Dr. Chan read other books on interpersonal neurobiology and realized that Pepperdine was well connected and was one of the top schools (if not the top school). He remembers thinking “this is the person I need to work with.” So, working with Louis was the main drive for him selecting Pepperdine for his doctorate. When reflecting on his experiences at Pepperdine, Dr. Chan states “all the faculty there were just absolutely stellar and honestly my experience there was, is heartwarming. It’s an amazing experience and definitely grueling at times.” He continues to share that they put you through the ringer, but it was in a safe environment, and you get so much supervision and amazing mentors, all of whom are “well-seasoned psychologists.” For those at the fork in the road deciding on whether to earn a PhD or PsyD, Dr. Chan shares his thoughts and experiences regarding this question and why he elected to earn his PsyD in Clinical Psychology. He also shares some of the biggest challenges associated with starting your own private practice. His top three suggestions? First, “make sure you have enough savings to open up a neuropsychology practice because in order to put together the lab, ultimately there are lots of materials and tools that you need to purchase and get all the licensing and all that sort of stuff.” He said it took him about $25,000 to put everything together when starting his practice. Second, be sure that you have a referral stream to help build up your clientele and then decide if you want to accept insurance. If you do, be aware that getting signed up with different insurance panels is difficult as they require a lot of documentation and they don’t pay you very well. Third, be prepared to set up, grow, and maintain your social media accounts as you need to have a good internet presence. Dr. Chan uses his social media platforms as a free education platform to draw in more followers and more people interested in the field. He says you need “to be very proactive, especially if you want to start your own practice…you have to put posts every few days and then you have to see clients and then you’re teaching, and then you’re writing books and all this sort of stuff.” Dr. Chan discusses his award-winning book Reassembling Models of Reality and says “if you are interested in neuroscience, philosophy, and psychology” then you will like this book because he knitted together these three domains in the book. Interestingly, he originally started drafting the book for the general public but was asked by W.W. Norton & Company to make it more clinical because the Interpersonal Neurobiology series is more of a clinical series, so he went through a bunch of edits and iterations before getting it published. For his efforts, he received the 2023 Nautilus Book Award in the Psychology/Mental & Emotional Well-Being category for this book. Dr. Chan then gives us a glimpse into his new book that he is currently working on called Becoming a Force of Nature which is building off the previous book exploring science, nature, Daoism and how these may intersect with one another as he and others argue “there is a meaning crisis in our society.” When asked what is one of the most important things he has learned in his life so far, Dr. Chan discusses the idea of eustress and a Stoic saying from Epictetus. He discusses these around the 47-minute mark of our interview. Connect with Aldrich Chan : LinkedIn | Facebook | InstagramConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/890547696 Interests and Specializations Aldrich Chan assesses and treats psychological and neurological illnesses through neuropsychological evaluations and treatment through cognitive remediation and/or psychotherapeutic services. He has conducted research and has publications on Alzheimer's, PTSD, Default Mode Network (DMN), memory, imagination, psychotherapy, mindfulness, play and creativity as well as the interplay between, and among, these topics. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Psychology (2009); Carleton University, Ottawa, ON, Canada.Master of Arts (MA), Clinical Psychology, Marriage and Family Therapy (2011); The Chicago School, Los Angeles, CA.Doctor of Psychology (PsyD), Clinical Psychology (2016); Pepperdine University, Malibu, CA. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Aldrich Chan introduces his new book, Reassembling Models of Reality (Youtube)Dr. Aldrich Chan @ Psychology Today Podcast Transcript 00:14 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Aldrich Chan to the show. Dr. Chan is a neuropsychologist, CEO and founder of the Center for Neuropsychology and Consciousness, otherwise known as CNC, and an Adjunct Professor for the doctoral program and master's program at Pepperdine University. He is also the award-winning author of a book called Reassembling Models of Reality: Theory and Clinical Practice. Today, we will learn more about his academic and professional journey, what inspired him to specialize in neuropsychology and consciousness, and hear his advice for those interested in building a successful career in neuropsychology. Dr. Chan, welcome to our podcast. 01:13 AldrichThank you so much for having me. 01:16 BradleyWell, I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to walk through your journey. I always find myself telling my guests that part of the fun for me is actually learning about your journey and doing all of the research associated with your academic and then eventually your professional journey. So, first off, we usually talk about your academic journey, and I noticed that your bachelor's degree in psychology, you received that at Carleton University in Ottawa, in Canada. So, tell me a little bit more about your undergraduate experiences and how did you end up at Carlton? 01:51 AldrichSo, I have a diverse background to say the least, and I'm actually Canadian, and so that's one of the major reasons because the tuition was much cheaper. And I actually applied also to Ottawa U and a few other schools. And given the nature of Costa Rican mailing service, I actually didn't receive the acceptance from Ottawa U until much later, and I got Carlton first. So, that was sort of by chance that I ended up going to Carlton and I didn't end up specializing in psychology until about second year university.

68: Hope Kelaher, LCSW – Systemic and Relational Therapist Shares her Journey Becoming a Licensed Clinical Social Worker in New York City Dec 06, 2023

Hope Kelaher originally pursued environmental engineering at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore but quickly realized that she preferred helping people. She worked in the college’s career center as a career coach and had the opportunity to go to Cuba to study their public health system. After attending Johns Hopkins, Hope completed some internships with the World Health Organization (WHO) in Geneva on postpartum depression. This was her initial entry into the world of psychology as she “did a lot of work in Inner City Baltimore at the Hopkins School Public Health doing family and child health research.” She then had the opportunity to go into the Peace Corp, where they commissioned her to Uganda doing AIDS Hospice work. However, when getting her physical, her doctor looked at her and said “why are you going to Uganda? You could do so much good here in Baltimore, why don’t you stick around?” Her doctor told her that hospice work is really hard and “I don’t really think this is the best thing for you.” Hope’s uncle also said the same thing. So, she decided to stay in Baltimore and worked at The Annie E. Casey Foundation, which was started by one of the founders of UPS, Jim Casey, and exists to help children thrive and survive in underdeveloped and low-income communities by providing services and grants to those in need. She also worked with the NECC Foundation and the Children’s Aid Society. In this podcast, Hope shares her academic and professional journey, discusses why she went into social work and some of the requirements to become a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) in the state of New York. She also discusses her private practice, Hope Kelaher Therapy, located in Lower Manhattan, NYC. Hope received her bachelor’s degree in public health and sociology from Johns Hopkins University and her Master of Arts in Social Work from Columbia University. She conducted her post-graduate study in Marriage and Family Therapy/Counseling at the Ackerman Institute for Family in NY. Those interested in a career in social work or psychology may find that schooling can be expensive. In addition to internships, scholarships, grants, and other funding opportunities to help offset the cost of schooling, Hope shares how she attained funding from the Children’s Aid Society to help fund half of her tuition while attending Columbia University. Hope shares “so, Columbia and my agency had this agreement where I could, you know, go to school part-time and then work full-time, so that’s what I did.” She continues by stating “any recommendation I can give to people going into social work, social work does not pay a lot of money, so wherever you can find a deal, take it, right?” After graduating from Columbia, she decided to pursue family therapy, so she attended Ackerman Institute for Family. When reflecting on her journey, Hope shares “so really, my journey into private practice and being more of a clinical person happened while I was working in a nonprofit agency.” After she completed the Ackerman Institute for Family’s clinical externship, she remembers doing a lot of hard work, working really long hours, and not getting compensated fairly “and so, that’s something that people have to really think about when they do this work.” Therefore, Hope started her own very small private practice in 2018 while she was still working full-time. She explains that, in New York, a licensed clinical social worker can do therapy whereas in some other states, you have to have a PsyD or PhD. At this point, we discuss some of the requirements for becoming a LCSW in New York and share some valuable information and websites for those interested in this career path. Hope discusses some of the biggest challenges associated with opening your own private practice and provides helpful advice including making sure you “get a lot of experience working with many different people before you go into private practice because you never know who will show up.” It takes a lot of work and financial resources and support to get a practice up and running. Hope also suggests that you know your own boundaries and make them known to your clients so that you don’t find yourself working long or odd hours. She states, “people starting a private practice, they’re just so eager to kind of build their clientele that they are too accommodating.” You also need to remember to screen your clients before taking them on and remember “some people are not going to be the right fit for you and that is OK. And also having other people in the field that you can refer them to, I felt was very helpful.” Hope reminds us that “part of being a therapist today is being a businessperson.” She says, “there’s a lot of freedom in working for yourself, but then there’s also a lot of responsibility by and thinking about the business end with cash flow, you know, paying estimated taxes, health insurance, all of that stuff that sometimes is an afterthought because people get so eager.” You can, and should, reach out for help if you need guidance. Hope also believes that it is important to focus on “self-care” because social work and therapy takes a lot of energy so consider getting your own therapist to help keep you grounded and process any traumatic event or journeys shared with you from your clients. Near the end of our discussion, we discuss a couple of her books including Here to Make Friends: How to Make Friends as an Adult which is a Gold winner for Family & Relationships in the 2020 Foreword INDIES Book Awards and her most recent book The Resilience Workbook for Women: A Transformative Guide to Discover Your Inner Strength, Conquer Adversity, and Achieve Your Goals. She believes all of us are born with a level of resilience, but some do not know how to cultivate it. In the workbook, she provides exercises that are applicable to many different challenges a person is experiencing in their life. Though the workbook is specifically designed for women, many of the principles and exercises can be used for men as well. When asked what she loves most about her job, Hope shares “somebody just came out with a list of the most gratifying careers and construction was the first one because people can see the end product. As therapists, we don’t always get to see the end product, but the gift of seeing somebody blossom is just, it’s the most amazing thing.” Connect with Hope Kelaher : LinkedIn | InstagramConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/883173874 Interests and Specializations Hope Kelaher has extensive training and experience in relational and systematic therapy. She is passionate about helping individuals, couples, and families who are struggling with anxiety and depression by examining the individual themselves and in the various contexts of their lives such as home life, work life, and community life. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Public Health, Sociology (2005); The Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, MD.Master of Arts (MA), Social Work (2011); Columbia University, New York, NY.Post Graduate Study, Marriage and Family Therapy/Counseling (2017); Ackerman Institute for Family, New York, NY. Other Sources and Links of Interest Hope Kelaher: Psychology TodayHope Kelaher: Simon & SchusterHope Kelaher: Ulysses Press Podcast Transcript 00:15 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher. Today, we welcome Hope Kelaher to the show. Hope is a licensed clinical social worker with a private practice in lower Manhattan. She provides individual, couple, and family therapy. She received her bachelor's degree in public health and sociology from Johns Hopkins University, and her Master of Arts in Social Work from Columbia University. Hope is an author of a few books, including Here to Make Friends: How to Make Friends as an Adult, which was a Gold Winner for Family & Relationships in the 2020 Foreword INDIES Book Awards. Her most recent book is called The Resilience Workbook for Women: A Transformative Guide to Discover Your Inner Strength, Conquer Adversity, and Achieve Your Goals. Today we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, more about Hope Kelleher Therapy and her new book, and hear her advice for those interested in the field of social work and psychology. Hope, welcome to our podcast. 01:28 HopeHi, Brad. Thank you so much for having me today. I'm very excited to share my journey with those who might be interested in pursuing a degree in social work or psychology. 01:40 BradleyWell, I appreciate you taking the time out of your schedule to talk with us. Every single guest on our podcast has a different journey to tell, and so I know that when we looked at yours, you received your bachelor's degree in public health and sociology, as I said, at John Hopkins, Johns Hopkins University. Tell me a little bit more about your undergraduate experiences and what eventually led you to focus on public health and sociology. 02:05 HopeYeah, that's a really good question. I went to Johns Hopkins in. I graduated in from high school in 2001. So, it was right after 911 or just before 911, I was at Hopkins during 9/11. I went in to pursue environmental engineering and was just absolutely miserable. And I realized that I liked working with people. I liked being around people, I like helping people. I worked at my college's Career Center as like a career coach type of thing, and I just I really like volunteering. And then my university had a program, it is a little sort of tangled web, but where we where we did a little bit of a study in Cuba, in Havana. And so, I had always wanted to go to Havana.

67: Greg Neimeyer, PhD – Professor Emeritus, Associate Executive Director and Director of the Office of Continuing Education in Psychology at the APA Reflects on His Career and Offers Tangible Advice Nov 19, 2023

Those of you who are in the field of psychology, take a moment to remember what originally sparked your interest in psychology. For Dr. Greg Neimeyer, it was having an outstanding high school teacher who taught honors in psychology and was an adjunct professor at a local community college. He fondly recalls “for us, as high school students, we [had] a real-life professor in high school, and we were in awe. He taught it like a very intellectually challenging course, not unlike a college course, [and] really lit the fire under us in terms of intellectual interest, so the spark for me was really an outstanding high school teacher.” Dr. Neimeyer decided to attend college at the University of Florida, where he received a speech debate scholarship, and first selected speech as his major then the psychology seed that was planted in him in high school began to bear fruit and he changed his major to psychology during his second year and, as he states, “the rest, as they say, is history.” After attending the University of Notre Dame for his master’s and doctorate in psychology, he wanted to stay in the academic field and applied to multiple universities for his first faculty position. In this podcast, Dr. Neimeyer eloquently reflects on his career of over 42 years in the field of psychology highlighting the important experiences, people, and lessons he has learned while sharing important tangible and meaningful advice including how to select the right graduate program and university for you, tips on setting yourself apart from others when applying to graduate schools, and the importance of continuing education and paying it forward. Interestingly, Dr. Neimeyer returns to his undergraduate alma mater for his first faculty position. He shares that he always knew that he wanted to become an academic but wanted to maintain the clinical practice side as he “always regarded that as a key ingredient to be able to, you know, bring the clinic into the classroom and the classroom into the clinic.” Dr. Neimeyer is Professor Emeritus in the Department of Psychology at the University of Florida, where he served as Director of Training and Graduate Coordinator of the APA-approved doctoral training program in counseling psychology and has taught courses on the DSM, the ICD, and psychopathology. He currently serves as the Director of the Offices of Continuing Education in Psychology, the Center for Learning And Career Development, and the Center for Interprofessional Training and Education at the American Psychological Association in Washington, D.C.. Throughout our discussion, Dr. Neimeyer shares his thoughts, suggestions, and experiences in the hopes that it will help those who are interested in the field of psychology. He provides his thoughts on how to select the right graduate program for you and how to decide on which branch or field of psychology is a good fit given your interests. He says, “psychology is present in just about everything. So that’s the good news and the bad news. I mean, the bad news is you’re faced with having to make some difficult decisions among a blizzard of different opportunities. The good news is that whatever your interests are, you can attach them to, and draft in behind, the graduate program that’s likely to support that.” If you are having a hard time selecting a branch of psychology to focus on, he suggests a few things such as looking at your undergraduate psychology book. There are probably 30-35 chapters in the book so look through the book and identify the ones that resonate with you or in which you are interested and pass over the ones that you find yourself yawning at or not the least bit interested. He shares “probably about 80% of students wind up going into the professional side which is clinical, counseling, or school [psychology]. Those are the only areas that are licensed eligible.” He continues “my experience is that about 80% of students wind up wanting to have at least part, if not all, of their career focused on helping other people and that really is the professional side. So there, you’re really looking at a master’s or doctoral level in clinical or counseling psychology.” He summarizes this section of our discussion by stating “that’s worth amplifying Brad, because in a way you can think about the graduate degree, whether it’s a master’s or a doctoral, as a kind of golden ticket, right? So, once you gain entry into the field with that graduate degree, whether it’s licensed eligible or not, you have the degree of freedom to pursue your specialty interest.” He discusses what he calls “the three-touch rule” when it comes to winnowing down your top 15-20 graduate programs and schools. You can look at the programs and universities then you look at the faculty and their research and find the faculty “whose interests match your own.” He then walks us through the three-touch rule which will help you stand out when it comes time for the review committee to make their offers. He says by following these steps, “they look at you in an entirely different way as an interested human who has done what a graduate student must do…they distinguish themselves by their initiative and you have taken the initiative to marry your interest to theirs.” Dr. Neimeyer was invited by the American Psychiatric Association to serve as one of only two psychologists originally trained on the DSM-5, and subsequently has provided hundreds of professional trainings on the DSM and ICD both nationally and internationally. He is also conducting trainings on the DSM-5-TR (Text Revision) and describes his experiences training in Zimbabwe which led to discussions about traveling, accents, culture, and culture biases. We discussed his roles at the APA and the importance of continuing education. When asked about the importance of continuing education in psychology and how it benefits professionals in the field, Dr. Neimeyer responded “Think about it. It becomes really clear really quickly if you think about [it], your master’s program takes two years, your doctoral program may take an additional four years. You’re going to be in the practice an additional 35 years. The half-life of knowledge in psychology is between 5 and 7 years. If you’re practicing on the basis of something you learned 7-8-9-10 years ago, you are a troglodyte. If you’re doing psychopharmacology based on psychopharmacology for 1990 or 2000, that’s yesterday’s news. That’s ancient history. So continuing education is absolutely vital.” He continues “So, getting out of graduate school is just an opportunity to redouble your learning in areas of that are of central interest to you. It’s one of the things that fuels the field of specialization.” The information available in each of the fields is so vast that one has to be a critical consumer of this knowledge and spend your time wisely being aware of the existence of garbage or “junk sources” because they are out there. So, identifying trusted and credible sources is important. We discuss how to stay current with the latest research and advancements in the field of psychology and highlight a handful of trusted sources but, again, because there is so much information available, Dr. Neimeyer points out it’s “like trying to get a sip of water out of a fire hydrant field, but that’s part of what makes it so incredibly exciting.” In addition to all of the unique experiences he has had over his entire career, when asked to share something unique about himself, Dr. Neimeyer shared that he was a tableside flambé chef before he was a psychologist. He would prepare “tableside flambés, flaming coffees, the Steak Dianes, the Baked Alaska, Cherries Jubilee, [and] Bananas Foster, all those things that I’ve learned to love.” Dr. Neimeyer admitted that his wife Edwina was expecting him to make dinner for her and she holds him to a “higher standard” knowing his experience preparing food. Connect with Dr. Greg Neimeyer: LinkedIn | Faculty PageConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/881109650 Interests and Specializations Dr. Greg Neimeyer has published over 200 scholarly articles and more than 12 books, largely in the areas of personality and professional and career development. As a Fellow of the American Psychological Association, Dr. Neimeyer also received its Award for Outstanding Contributions to Career and Personality Research. Education Bachelor of Science (BS), Psychology (1977); University of Florida, Gainesville, FL.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Psychology (1982); University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Greg Neimeyer: WikipediaDr. Greg Neimeyer: Global Health Policy InstituteDr. Greg Neimeyer: University of Central FloridaDr. Greg Neimeyer: Understanding the DSM-5 (Youtube)Dr. Greg Neimeyer: The DSM Rap (Youtube) Podcast Transcript 00:00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Greg Neimeyer to the show. Dr. Neimeyer is Professor Emeritus in the Department of Psychology at the University of Florida, where he served as Director of Training and Graduate Coordinator of the APA approved doctoral training program in counseling psychology, and has taught courses in the DSM, the ICD, and psychopathology. A fellow of the American Psychological Association, Dr. Neimeyer is also a recipient of its award for Outstanding Contributions to Career and Personality Research. Dr. Neimeyer currently serves as the Director of the Offices of Continuing Education in Psychology, the Center for Learning and Career Development,

66: Katherine MacLean, PhD – Neuroscientist, Groundbreaking Psychedelics Researcher, and Author Shares her Extraordinary Journey and New Book Midnight Water Oct 29, 2023

Dr. Katherine MacLean is a neuroscientist, writer, research scientist, mother, and adventure-seeker. Dr. Maclean thought she would study anthropology, religion, or pre-Med when she first started undergraduate school. She had many interests including genetics, spirituality, and the brain. She recalls “I took an anthropology of religion course, and that’s when I first learned about Shamanic and spiritual ceremonies that could trigger changes in the brain that created visions that created the experience of real-life entities.” At the time, she also took psychology courses and learned there was a rhesus macaque lab in the basement. She wanted to find out what those monkeys were doing in the basement so with the help of her undergrad mentor, Yale Cohen, she was able to corral all of her disparate interests and combine them with her passion to forge a new research path that combined her work on mindfulness research while earning her doctorate at UC-Davis and her psilocybin research at Johns Hopkins University where she completed her postdoctoral fellowship in psychopharmacology. In this podcast interview, Dr. MacLean brings us back to her undergraduate and graduate experiences and shares the critical events and people that led her to obtain her Bachelor of Arts in Psychology and Neuroscience and attend UC-Davis for her PhD in Research Psychology as well as attending Johns Hopkins University for her postdoctoral fellowship in psychopharmacology. She shares her experience visiting graduate schools and how she mentioned her interest in studying psychedelics “just to see how they would respond.” At the time, serious research on psychedelics was not happening so Dr. MacLean combined her interests and passion to establish a legitimate line of groundbreaking research studying the effects of mindfulness meditation and psychedelics on cognitive performance, emotional well-being, spirituality, and brain function. Her research suggests that psychedelic medicines can enhance openness to new experiences and promote mental health and emotional well-being throughout the life span. Dr. MacLean co-founded and directed the first center for psychedelic training and education in New York, was featured in the New Yorker article entitled “The Trip Treatment by Michael Pollan, and her TED Talks have been viewed nearly fifty thousand times. She was one of the lead researchers on the Shamatha Project, which was a groundbreaking study of the effects of intensive meditation on psychological and brain function. When she was a research follow and faculty member at Johns Hopkins, she apprenticed with and was supervised by two of the world’s top psychedelic therapists – Bill Richards, PhD, and Mary Cosimano, LSW – learning how to effectively and safely support people before, during, and after high-dose psychedelic experiences. When reflecting on your journey and her professional career, Dr. MacLean shares practical advice for those “climbing the ladder of success.” She states, “I might have been very happy as a tenure track faculty member at Johns Hopkins. But, the thing that I want to impress upon young psychology students is something that a medical doctor told me when I was deciding whether to leave Hopkins, ‘sometimes as you’re climbing the ladder of success, you get to the top and realize it’s on the wrong wall and you have to get all the way back down and put the ladder up on a different wall and start from scratch.’” Dr. MacLean spent the last two decades studying the effects of mindfulness meditation and psychedelics on cognitive performance, emotional well-being, spirituality, and brain function. Her professional journey takes an unexpected detour following the death of her sister from cancer. She left her faculty position and decided to travel the world. In her new book, Midnight Water: A Psychedelic Memoir, she shares her story of grief and redemption. During our discussion she shares more about her book, why she wrote it, and the important takeaways we should learn from it. She refers to her own personal journey as one where she climbed halfway up the ladder but realized that she was working all the time, working weekends, feeling stressed out, and then having a significant life-changing moment which left her feeling very anxious when thinking about all of the other things she still wanted to do with her life (having children, enjoying life, etc.). She said “there’s no way I wanted to work all weekend, not have any children, not be able to have a fun life alongside my dream. So, I temporarily gave up my dream to pursue life and what came out of that was this book.” Given the current state of psychedelic research, Dr. MacLean would advise students who are interested in the field to consider getting a medical degree along with their PhD “because you will not regret it when you are one of the only doctors in the room who also understands this research and how these drugs work in the brain.” She also offers advice to aspiring psychology students who are just starting out on their academic journey. She states, “find the research that’s fascinating and talk to the people who are doing it, you know, because you never know where that’s going to lead.” Connect with Dr. Katherine MacLean: Twitter | Instagram | Youtube | FacebookConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/875102592 Interests and Specializations Dr. Katherine MacLean received her doctorate in research psychology and completed her postdoctoral fellowship in psychopharmacology. She is an expert studying the effects of mindfulness meditation and psychedelics on cognitive performance, spirituality, emotional well-being, and brain function. Her groundbreaking research on psilocybin and personality change is well-known in the field. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Psychology & Neuroscience (2003); Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Research Psychology (2009); University of California – Davis, Davis, CA.Postdoctoral Fellowship in Psychopharmacology (2012); Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, MD. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Katherine Maclean: @AmazonDr. Katherine Maclean: Open Wide and Say Awe (Ted Talk)Dr. Katherine Maclean: Befriending the Beloved Mystery with Magic MushroomsDr. Katherine Maclean: The Psychedelic Art of Dying: Magic Mushrooms & The Final Meltdown Podcast Transcript 00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Catherine MacLean to the show. Dr. MacLean is a neuroscientist with expertise in studying the effects of mindfulness meditation and psychedelics on cognitive performance, emotional well-being, spirituality, and brain function. She earned her bachelor's degree in psychology and neuroscience from Dartmouth College. Dr. MacLean then earned her PhD in Research Psychology from the University of California, Davis. Her groundbreaking research on Silo Sibin and personality change suggests that psychedelic medicines can enhance openness to new experiences and promote mental health and emotional well-being throughout the lifespan. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, more about her current project, and hear about her recent book, Midnight Water: A Psychedelic Memoir. Dr. McLean, welcome to our podcast. 01:25 KatherineThanks for having me. This is a great way to spend my, the end of my Labor Day. 01:30 BradleyWell, I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy. Well, actually today Labor Day is nice. I know that you were busy earlier on doing another recording. So, I thank you for being on our podcast, first of all. And to start off, if you've seen some of our podcasts, you know that we kind of go through your journey. First, we start talking about your academic journey and then your professional journey. So, I noticed that you received your bachelor's degree in psychology and neuroscience from Dartmouth College. Can you tell us more about your journey and how you became a neuroscientist and, ultimately, what motivated you to pursue this career path? 02:09 KatherineSure. Well, I thought that I was going to study either anthropology or religion. And before that, I thought that I might do pre-Med as well. And very shortly into the pre-Med track, I think it was a genetics class. I just said, you know what this is too. You know, there's even too nerdy for me and that's it. You know, pre-Med is too nerdy for me, so I'm going to let some of the other workaholic kids do that track. And I took a number of other courses in anthropology, religion. I was. I was fascinated by how humans expressed their spirituality, their beliefs. I was fascinated by Buddhism, in particular, because it's very, it's a kind of a very mind-oriented religion. And then I took an anthropology of religion course, and that's when I first learned about Shamanic and spiritual ceremonies that could trigger changes in the brain that created visions that created the experience of real-life entities. It seemed to kind of capture all of my interests all in one. And at the time I decided to start taking psychology courses, I took about a year's worth, and then I found out there was a rhesus macaque lab at the basement of the site building. And I was like, whatever it takes, I need to figure out what those monkeys are doing in the basement. And so that brought me to my undergrad mentor, Yale Cohen and I would say that it was Yale Cohen who finally took all of my disparate interests. My passion for these very kind of weird, wacky topics and directed that energy into the path that eventually landed me in grad school.

65: Jim Loehr, EdD – Pioneer and World-Renowned Performance Psychologist, Author, and Coach Reflects on his Career and Discusses the Most Important Book he has ever Written Oct 18, 2023

How much would you pay to spend almost 90 minutes with a world-renowned performance psychologist (a pioneer in the field), researcher, New York Times best-selling author, C-suite coach, co-founder of the Human Performance Institute (HPI), co-founder of APeak Tennis, advisor and coach of Evolve Leadership? In this podcast episode, I had the privilege of talking with Dr. Jim Loehr as he reflected on his more than 30 years of vast experience and applied research designed to successfully leverage the science of energy management to improve the productivity and engagement of world-class performers in the areas of sport, business, medicine, and law enforcement. He shares what he believes is the most important factor in success, personal fulfillment, and life satisfaction. Dr. Loehr also discusses his recently co-authored book that he believes is “the most important book [he has] ever written” called Wise Decisions: A Science-Based Approach to Making Better Choices. Dr. Jim Loehr’s parents were deeply religious, devout Catholics so his whole life was centered around religious teachings and beliefs. His sister became a nun, and his brother became a Jesuit priest out of high school and was in the Jesuits for seven years. Dr. Loehr explained that “there was no choice as to where I was going to go to school…I had to go to a school that [my parents] approved.” So, he attended Regis High School then Regis University. The only graduate school his parents would accept, while staying reasonably close to home, was the University of Northern Colorado. Therefore, Dr. Loehr received his BA in Psychology from Regis University, and an MA and EdD in Psychology from the University of Northern Colorado in Greeley, CO. During our discussion, Dr. Loehr reflects on his academic and professional journey highlighting the experiences and people that impacted him and explains the events that led him to become a pioneer in the sport and performance psychology field. Throughout our discussion, he offers thoughtful and practical advice to those interested in the field. He shares a story in which he wrote a book called Mental Toughness Training for Sports and sent it to 19 major league publishers and got 19 rejections where they all said, “what the heck is mental toughness?” Dr. Loehr’s father played professional baseball and read the book and said, “this makes sense…I’m going to go ahead and take a risk here” and he paid someone to produce the book and they sent it around to see what people thought of the book. The book became an underground bestseller and, all of a sudden, it was picked up by a major publisher and sold millions of copies all over the world. Dr. Loehr realized that the concept of mental toughness was so new and “because it was before its time, they thought it was absolute nonsense.” Resilience and toughness are needed when you are a pioneer and you are doing something different. Dr. Loehr shares some of the most significant experiences of his career, the ones that impacted him and his journey the most, including his experience as Chief Psychologist and Executive Director of the San Luis Valley Mental Health Corporation. We discuss how he founded The Center for Athletic Excellence in Denver, CO and his involvement as the Executive Director and Sport Psychologist at the Jimmy Connors United States Tennis Center. Dr. Loehr shares the story leading up to getting that position. Essentially, there was an ad for someone to run the Jimmy Connors United States Tennis Center in Sanibel Harbor, so he called Bob Davis and said, “I’ll run all the facility for you, but I want to have access to Jimmy’s brain. I want to be able to do videos and everything else. I want to see what makes that competitive brain work. I need to learn. So, he didn’t check with Jimmy. He just said, ‘no, it’s done. We’d love to have somebody with a Doctor of Psychology down here.’” He had such a reputation and following that many of the players at the Nick Bollettieri Tennis Academy, located up the road, were coming to him and Nick didn’t like it. Nick approached Dr. Loehr and asked him to set up his research institute at his place. So, Dr. Loehr became the Director of Sport Science and Sport Psychology at The Nick Bollettieri Tennis Academy where he learned “everything” as he had access to over 240 of the best players in the world at the time. He hooked up the players “to more telemetry than you can possibly imagine” including EEG, EMG, and all kinds of heart rate monitoring between points, during points, and had access to a videographer so they would look at the videos of all their matches. After 6 years at the Nick Bollettieri Tennis Academy, Dr. Loehr was ready to do something on his own, so he joined forces with Dr. Jack Groppel, who had a PhD in bioengineering. They created a company in 1992 called the Human Performance Institute (HPI). They set up the operation and raised the money needed. Dr. Loehr recalls “everybody said it would fail. We had no chance of succeeding at Lake Nona, which is a suburb of Orlando, and that’s when my career really began.” The Institute was purchased by Johnson & Johnson in 2008 and he stayed on during the transition for another 6 years. By the time he left, around 400,000 people went through the Institute which resulted in a huge database. Dr. Groppel was the head of the biomechanics lab at the University of Illinois, so he was looking at the biomechanical part of everything at the Institute and Dr. Loehr was looking at the psychological side of human performance. He states, “And then we brought in all kinds of people. Our faculty was probably some of the most extraordinary human beings I’ve ever been around. We had the former commander of the Navy Seals, former commander of the Blue Angels, Elite Air Force instructor, fighter pilot, we had gold medalists, silver medalists. When they spoke, people listened.” In addition to multiple stories and experiences, Dr. Loehr shares advice throughout the interview. Some of the advice is geared toward those interested in the field of sport and performance psychology. He says that it is important to follow your interest and passion, but you also need to figure out how you are going to eat, how you are going to pay the bills. He said, “I know so many people who’ve gotten PhD’s in sport psychology and can’t find a job…you have to be an entrepreneur.” When you go out on your own, become a pioneer or an entrepreneur “you are setting up a business. The business of you.” His recommendation is to get a clinical degree and specialize in performance psychology as it has a much broader base than sport psychology. He adds “get licensed, get yourself an opportunity to set up a practice. There are lots of opportunities. Then you can begin to, you know, hone your career specifically in the direction you want.” Dr. Loehr shares that he has counseled many people to go into performance psychology and they have gone into the corporate world using the principles and knowledge from the HPI and “have started businesses, corporate businesses, and they’re doing exceedingly well, and they love it.” Dr. Loehr recently co-authored a book with Dr. Sheila Ohlsson Walker called Wise Decisions: A Science-Based Approach to Making Better Choices. Dr. Ohlsson received her PhD in Behavioral Genetics from King’s College in London and is a Senior Scientist at the Institute for Applied Research in Youth Development at Tufts University. Both she and Dr. Loehr serve on the board of the Youth Performance Institute the mission, of which, is “The Youth Performance Institute combines mentorship, coaching, character development, and technology to ensure kids of all backgrounds have the tools they need to overcome personal challenges, advance their talents, and live their lives to the fullest.” Dr. Loehr shares “we make 35,000 or more decisions every day, 245,000 decisions every week, over 12 million every year. And if I ask you, what are you referencing when you make your decision, most people don’t have a clue.” Drs. Loehr and Walker and a team of industry experts took a science-based approach to decision-making and developed an evidence- and research-based blueprint for making the best decision you can given all of the information you have. In sport psychology you have an inner voice which is called “Self-Talk” which is untrained. In this book, you will learn about a trained inner voice called “Your Own Decision Advisor” or YODA. He says “some YODAs are dysfunctional. They’re not depositories of great wisdom, and so the whole book is about uploading the right stuff to your YODA so YODA can make the right decisions.” This book is a very practical guide as it helps automate the process so that you can turn your decision-making process into one informed by reason, emotion, intuition, and science. Dr. Loehr reminds us that “the most important coach you will ever have is the coach no one hears but you. And the only voice you’ll have in your head until your death. And you want that not to be an adversary.” He asks “if we projected your self inner talk on a Jumbotron the way you coached yourself, would you be proud of the way you coached yourself through that situation? And when we get that space cleaned up, it is actually miraculous.” When asked what his favorite term, principle, or theory is, Dr. Loehr replied “this notion of purpose. We are a purpose driven species. And a self-transcending purpose is how we are designed. We are social creatures; we exist to help everyone else be successful. When we get that right, our lives light up. And we can become fully engaged and fully satisfied and we’re likely to become the best we can be.” Connect with Dr. Jim Loehr: LinkedIn | Amazon | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/858808905 Interests and Specializations Dr. Jim Loehr is a pioneer in the sport and performance psychology field.

64: Neil Lewis, Jr., PhD – Dual Appointed Associate Professor at a Research One University Shares his Advice and Journey & Discusses his Multifaceted Job Oct 04, 2023

Dr. Neil Lewis, Jr. was born in Jamaica and came to the United States as a kid. In this podcast, we discuss his academic and professional journey beginning from what originally sparked his interest in psychology including a demonstration by his high school economics teacher at Cornell University in Ithica, NY to what led him to the University of Michigan for his graduate degrees in social psychology leading to his dual appointment and recent promotion as Associate Professor at Cornell University and Weill Cornell Medicine. During our discussion, Dr. Lewis shares his experiences and advice with those interested in getting their graduate degree in the field of psychology and those wanting to stay in the academic field. Dr. Lewis is a behavioral scientist who has a dual appointment as Associate Professor of Communication and Social Behavior at Cornell University and Associate Professor of Communication Research in Medicine at Weill Cornell Medicine. Dr. Lewis states, “the reason for the dual appointments, in this case, is I do a lot of health research including research on how the ways health clinics and health systems communicate information to patients affects the health behaviors the patients engage in and health outcomes.” So, in the Department of Communication, he is surrounded by communication scholars and other social scientists who are interested in the communication process. Then, in the Medical School, all of his colleagues are medical doctors who put these communication processes into practice. He believes “being in both worlds really allows me to get the broader set of perspectives that I need to have on health issues and that improves my ability to study those issues as well.” He also co-directs Cornell’s Action Research Collaborative, an institutional hub that brings together researchers, practitioners, policy makers, and community members to collaborate on projects and initiatives to address important equity issues in society. Dr. Lewis received the Early Career Scholar Award from the International Communication Association, the Janet Taylor Spence Award for Transformative Early Career Contributions from the Association for Psychological Science, and Cornell’s Research and Extension Award for Outstanding Accomplishments in Science and Public Policy. Outside of academia, Thinkers50 and Deloitte identified Dr. Lewis as one of the 30 up-and-coming thinkers whose ideas will shape management in the coming years due to his contributions to work motivation and diversity, equity, and inclusion. Dr. Lewis’s interest in psychology actually stemmed from a great high school economics teacher who sparked his interest in economics through his teachings and demonstrations. Dr. Lewis thought that an economics degree was a “practical degree to get…to be employable at the end of my undergraduate journey…but the most interesting part of economics for me were the parts that were fundamentally psychological.” For example, he recalls a demonstration in which the professor took out a $20 bill and a $1 bill and ripped both of them in half. When the professor asked the students to reflect on their reaction and explain why they were more upset about the $20 bill being torn in half than the $1 bill being torn in half, they replied that one was worth more than the other even though both were made of the same pieces of paper and used the same kind of ink. Dr. Lewis realized that as long as we share a collective belief, then that belief becomes part of our reality. He recalls, “I kept thinking about how much of these systems that govern our social world depend on people’s beliefs in those systems.” Dr. Lewis adds, “And, of course, the discipline that was really established to study belief systems and other thoughts and behaviors is psychology. And so that’s one of the reasons I ended up pivoting from economics to psychology.” When discussing his graduate school opportunities and choices, Dr. Lewis states, “I wanted to go to graduate school, not just to learn about psychological processes and social issues. I also wanted to use my knowledge to develop some interventions that could hopefully do some good in the world.” There are many schools in Michigan that offer graduate degrees in psychology and Dr. Lewis shares why he selected the University of Michigan to earn his MS and PhD in Social Psychology. Among other reasons, he found there was a cluster of faculty at the University of Michigan who were really focused on conducting intervention research and that was something in which he was very interested. Dr. Lewis is the director of the Motivation & Goal Pursuit Lab at Cornell and is known for his research on psychology and social issues, particularly on topics related to inequality, motivation, and well-being. He is a big advocate of applied research and helping to make policy changes at the local, regional, and national levels. However, there is one way to communicate in the academic world and a different way to communicate with policymakers. Dr. Lewis states, “academia is sort of oriented towards the ‘sage on the stage’ model of communication. Like, I have the knowledge and I just need to give it to you and then, once I give it to you, you will know and then you will do all the right things. And that’s just not how other contexts work.” He says that you should start from a more humble place and ask, “how can I help?” What is his advice for students and others who want to work in the field of social psychology? He emphasizes the importance of staying curious and remaining humble as key attributes to success. The field of social psychology is trying to understand some really complex interactions between people and the environment so staying curious is crucial. Some people may become super confident in the field when they make predictions regarding how people will behave in certain environments, but researchers are constantly surprised when people don’t act the way they predicted. Dr. Lewis reminds us that “staying curious about what’s happening around you and being humble about the fact that you might be wrong is an important thing to be successful in this field.” Connect with Neil Lewis, Jr.: LinkedIn | Twitter | Threads | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/858791911 Interests and Specializations Dr. Lewis’s research primarily focuses on how people’s social contexts and identities influence how they make sense of the world around them, and how this impacts their motivation to pursue different goals in life. He looks at the consequences on individuals, communities, organizations, and the societies in which the individuals are embedded. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Economics (2013); Cornell University, Ithaca, NY.Master of Science (MS), Social Psychology (2015); University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Social Psychology (2017); University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Neil Lewis Jr.: Google ScholarDr. Neil Lewis Jr.: Open Science FrameworkDr. Neil Lewis Jr.: FiveThirtyEightDr. Neil Lewis Jr.: The Atlantic (Contributing writer)Dr. Neil Lewis Jr.: Student Experience Research NetworkDr. Neil Lewis Jr.: Social Psychology 11th Edition @Amazon Podcast Transcript 00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Neil Lewis, Jr. to the show. Dr. Lewis is an Associate Professor of Communication and Social Behavior at Cornell University and Associate Professor of Communication Research in Medicine at Weill Cornell Medical College. Dr. Lewis is a behavioral scientist who studies how social interventions and policies can motivate behavioral changes to promote equitable outcomes in society. He completed his doctorate in social psychology from the University of Michigan. He received the Early Career Scholar Award from the International Communication Association, the Janet Taylor Spence Award for Transformative Early Career Contributions from the Association of Psychological Science, and Cornell's Research and Extension Award for Outstanding Accomplishments in Science and Public Policy. Today, we will learn more about his academic and professional journey, more about his dual appointment, and hear his advice for those interested in the field of social psychology. Dr. Lewis, welcome to our podcast. 01:33 NeilThank you so much for having me on the show. 01:35 BradleyWell, I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to be with us. One of the fun things as I was telling you before we started recording for me is to be able to do some of the research and look at your journey. And even though I've had other social psychologists on here on the podcast, yours is a very unique journey as well. So, you started off with your bachelor’s, you received your bachelor's degree in economics at Cornell University. So, tell me a little bit more about your undergraduate experiences and when you first became interested in psychology. 02:08 NeilYeah, I mean, undergrad was interesting and I, like, explored a lot of things during that time. You know, I studied economics in part because I really enjoyed them as a subject in high school, I had a great high school economics teacher who really sparked that interest in economics. But I also thought it was a practical degree to get. You know, I wanted to be employable at the end of my undergraduate journey, and so that was always something in the back of my mind. But the most interesting part of economics for me were the parts that were fundamentally psychological. Right. So,

63: Jessica Sinarski, MA, LPCMH – Licensed Professional Counselor of Mental Health (LPCMH) and Founder of BraveBrains Discusses Her Ongoing Journey and Mission to Help Children and Adults Sep 26, 2023

Since high school, Jessica Sinarski knew that she wanted to be a therapist. She found that empathy was a strength of hers and she wanted to lean into it. She originally didn’t want to work with kids but that all changed during an internship she had in graduate school at Boston College. She thought that she would work in the marriage and family counseling space or in premarital counseling but then everything shifted when she had a couple of kids in foster care on her caseload. Jessica recalls, “I found my calling.” Jessica is a Licensed Professional Counselor of Mental Health (LPCMH) and a highly sought-after therapist, speaker, and instigator of hope. Her extensive post-graduate training and 15+ years as a clinician and educator led her to create the resource and training platform called BraveBrains which is “a resource and training platform for K-12 educators and beyond. Using innovative solutions rooted in brain science, we empower children and adults to reach their full potential.” In this podcast, Jessica discusses her academic and professional journey, how the mission and vision of BraveBrains has transformed over the years, and how she makes Social Emotional Learning (SEL) practical, available, and easy to understand for parents and professionals. During her internship at Boston College, she was at the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (MSPCC). Jessica shares “there were several kids in foster care on my caseload, and it was just heartbreaking. Growing up’s hard enough. And then there not only was there instability at home, but these seemed to be the kids that got passed around professionally as well and that broke my heart.” Her first job out of graduate school was at a foster adoption child welfare support agency in the South Bronx in New York City “and it became very clear, very quickly that I didn’t know what I needed to know to be helpful” so she studied to become certified as an adoption therapist. She also learned about attachment in the brain and Dan Siegel and Tina Payne Bryson’s work around The Whole-Brain Child and making brain science really accessible. Jessica worked alongside Jonathan Baylin who is ”just a brain nerd, he just loves neuroscience. He’s a clinical psychologist and the author, co-author of a couple books and we would, we would talk about this stuff.” Jessica is the author of multiple books including Your Amazing Brain, the award-winning Riley the Brave series, and Light Up the Learning Brain. One of her newest books is Riley the Brave’s Big Feelings Activity Book: A Trauma-Informed Guide for Counselors, Educators, and Parents. She admits “it’s kind of funny to me that I’m a therapist who writes kids’ books now. I mean, I write other books too, but I didn’t like therapeutic kids’ books. I very rarely found one that I liked. There are more out now that are great, but I struggled to find things that kids could relate to and so, I guess, that’s part of my passion now is how do we make the tough stuff a little less tough?” Jessica offers a multitude of advice to those interested in the field of psychology, social work, and especially those interested in opening their own practice or business. She points out “I haven’t seen a school yet that actually talks about or has a course on how do you open and run and maintain a business or a practice.” So, she says don’t be afraid to ask for help. She states, “You don’t have to have everything figured out” and remember “the value of collaborating and networking, especially if you’re going into private practice like solo private practice because it can be so lonely.” What other advice does Jessica offer? Pay attention to what lights you up. She says, “Pay attention to your passion because you’re much more likely to be persistent with it if you are passionate about it, that’s grit 101, right?” In response to my question “what’s one of the most important things you’ve learned in your life thus far?”, Jessica responds “we can’t give what we don’t have and so doing the healing work ourselves is essential…I think it’s just essential that we know and heal ourselves if we’re trying to be people who know and offer healing presence to others.” Connect with Jessica Sinarski: LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | YoutubeConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/855875080 Interests and Specializations Jessica Sinarski has extensive post-graduate training and over 15 years as a clinician and educator both, of which, have led her to create the resource and training platform called BraveBrains. Jessica makes social emotional learning practical, equipping parents, and professionals with deeply trauma-informed tools. Jessica was awarded the national Voice for Adoption Drenda Lakin Memorial Award in 2021 in recognition of her valuable post-placement support and services to families who have achieved permanence for children in the child welfare system. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Psychology and Spanish (2003); Taylor University, Upland, IN.Master of Arts (MA), Counseling Psychology (2005); Boston College Lynch School, Chestnut Hill, MA. Other Sources and Links of Interest Jessica Sinarski @AmazonJessica Sinarski: National Center Youth IssuesDr. Dan Siegel's Hand Model of the Brain Podcast Transcript 00:00:14 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Jessica Sinarski to the show. Jessica is a licensed professional counselor of mental health, author, speaker, instigator of hope, and founder of BraveBrains. Weaving user-friendly brain science into everything she does, Jessica ignites both passion and know-how in audiences. She partners with school districts and child welfare agencies around the world to unlock resilience in children and adults alike. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, more about BraveBrains and her new book, as well as how to make brain science accessible and understandable for both parents and children. Jessica, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:13 JessicaThanks for having me, Brad. I'm. Glad to be here. 00:01:15 BradleyWell, thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to be with us. I'm excited to talk about your journey. The first thing I want to ask you is can you tell us a little bit more about your journey and what led you to become a Licensed Professional Counselor in Mental Health (LPCMH)? 00:01:32 JessicaSure. So, I am one of the rare people I feel like who didn't change majors. I kind of knew from, from toward the end of high school that I wanted to be a therapist, that really appealed to me. I think as is true for many in the helping fields, my own trauma background probably played into it. And I had gotten some help as a kid. And found that, you know, empathy was a strength and so just was excited about leaning into that a bit. I think if I had to do it over again knowing I didn't know that I wanted to work with kids necessarily. In fact, I thought I didn't want to work with kids. And if I had known the path, I would end up on, I would have gone the licensed clinical social worker route. But we don't know these things when we when we're on our journey and it's been fine. 00:02:34 BradleyAnd I don't think, you know, where you ended up, whether or not you had one or the other, probably wouldn't have made a huge difference. 00:02:43 JessicaNo, I think the only reason I mentioned that is particularly in the child welfare field because and moving states a couple of times as I did as an adult, that the license as a as a master's level mental health professional master's level counselor is different from state to state whereas the clinical social work license is much more widely recognized and uniform. And I think that that sort of red tape hoopla would have been a smoother experience. 00:03:21 BradleyNo, that's a very good point, because what, what some states view as an LPCMH may view as a different certification as well as some other certification. So, let's return to your academic journey. I did notice that you received your BA in psychology and Spanish from Taylor University. So, tell us a little bit more about your undergraduate experiences and when did you know that psychology was for you? Was it even before your undergrad? 00:03:48 JessicaIt was. It was so in high school it really. This is like the little-known fact at one point I wanted to be an actor, singer-songwriter. As happens so but I'm also like super practical. So, I didn't I decided I didn't want the busy lifestyle that would be needed for that. I wanted a more flexible career and that was one of the things that appealed to me about being a therapist in particular is that sort of like, to some extent, make your own hours, and I knew I wanted a family, and so thinking ahead about what that could all look like factored in. So, then I went into undergraduate right out of high school with psychology and Spanish as majors. I have had, I had wanted to learn Spanish well since I was a kid, my best friend in kindergarten spoke Spanish and I you know little me just wanted to learn. I had a little notebook that I would write down words in, so I took Spanish in high school and then again in college and continued to in my adulthood, try to become fluent. I wouldn't say so. I speak Spanish, you know, I get rusty when I'm out of practice for a while and all of that, but that was also important to me. 00:05:11 BradleyYeah, it is true, especially with the languages use it or lose it… 00:05:15 JessicaSo true. 00:05:16 Bradley…because if you don't use it on an everyday basis. So,

62: Rebecca Kase, MSW, LCSW, RYT – Author, Entrepreneur, EMDR Trainer & Consultant, and Owner of Kase & CO Shares her Journey and Advice and Discusses her new book Polyvagal-Informed EMDR Sep 18, 2023

Rebecca Kase grew up in Missouri and attended the University of Missouri (Mizzou or MU). She declared psychology as her major early in her freshman year of college, right after her first psychology 101 class. She recalls, “I love this. I get it. This makes sense to me. Something just really clicked inside, and I really felt like this is my path.” She also loved taking neuroscience classes and ultimately graduated in about 3 ½ years with a number of graduate level courses in her pocket. Rebecca then took a year to do volunteer work with AmeriCorps helping tutor inner-city elementary school kids in St. Louis, MO and she loved the experience. She used this experience and time to help figure out the next step in her academic journey. She knew she needed to go to graduate school because she thought she couldn’t really do anything with her bachelor’s in psychology, so she considered getting her master’s in counseling, social work, or psychology. In this podcast, Rebecca shares her journey and advice for those faced with a similar decision and discusses how she turned her passion into a successful, and prominent, training and consulting company, Kase & CO, which specializes in comprehensive Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) and trauma training for psychotherapists. Throughout this podcast, Rebecca shares her experience and offers practical advice for those considering a career in psychology, social work, or counseling. She chose to become a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW); however, her advice can be applied to those in the counseling or psychology fields as well. How do you decide on which path to take or in which university or program to enroll? Rebecca says, “consider your end goal.” She suggests asking yourself “Where do I want to end up and based on what I want for my career, which program seems to fit best?” She also reminds us that “where we think we’re going to end up, isn’t necessarily where we end up.” For example, she admits that she never thought she would own one of the largest EMDR training programs in the country and that she would love running a business but that is exactly what she is doing with Kase & CO Training and Consulting. Rebecca started EMDR training while she was still in graduate school, so she has been practicing EMDR since 2006. She started her LLC in 2009 and as her LLC grew, she became a trainer and consultant. In 2017, Rebecca started diving into Polyvagal theory as it “really resonated” and helped “explain why our nervous system does what it does.” After looking into Polyvagal theory, she realized that she could combine EMDR and Polyvagal theory to help supercharge therapy and the recovery process, so she started incorporating the two into her training and consulting at Kase & CO and has seen its incredible impact on her clients and their clients. Rebecca is also a Registered Yoga Teacher (RYT) and has been practicing yoga since she was 15 years old. She shares “it has been my saving grace and saved my life multiple times emotionally and physically.” She has integrated yoga into her EMDR training as she points out “research shows that yoga therapy is incredibly useful and powerful to bring into your sessions with clients no matter their presentation or diagnosis.” One of the 8 phases of EMDR focuses on preparation and where you learn about regulation skills and where you build somatic awareness. She says that yoga helps clients who have learned to “check out” from their feelings and sensations and who don’t know how to feel their body. Rebecca is the author of Polyvagal-Informed EMDR: A Neuro-Informed Approach to Healing (W.W. Norton & Company, May 23, 2023). She said the book started as her pandemic project. She began pulling her thoughts and experiences together and organized them in such a way that one of her friends said “Rebecca, you have a book here.” She explains that both Polyvagal Theory and EMDR offer powerful pathways to healing. She states “and so EMDR gives us this user manual for understanding memory as it contributes to health and wellness, disease, or pathology. Polyvagal Theory talks about what happens in our bodies. But it’s not just one or the other, it’s both. And so that’s why I found that integrating these two gives us this really robust inclusive framework for looking at the whole neurobiological picture when we’re working with common clinical presentations.” So, how did Rebecca find her passion and decide to open her own business? She states, “I followed my heart and my intuition every step of the way, which is my biggest bit of advice, listen to your heart, your intuition, and your body will always know.” Connect with Rebecca Kase: LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/852519721 Interests and Specializations Rebecca Kase specializes in comprehensive Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) and trauma training for psychotherapists. Founded in 2017, Kase & CO Training and Consulting is one of the top training providers in the US. They are an approved continuing education provider with EMDRIA, APA, and NBCC. Their structured courses are unique in the field, with dynamic live and on-demand formats designed to keep you engaged and learning. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Psychology; University of Missouri - Mizzou, Columbia, MO.Master of Social Work (MSW), Social Work (2007); University of Denver, Denver, CO. Other Sources and Links of Interest Rebecca Kase: EMDR International AssociationRebecca Kase: EMDR ConferenceRebecca Kase @Amazon: Polyvagal-Informed EMDR: A Neuro-Informed Approach to Healing Podcast Transcript 00:14 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Rebecca Kase to the show. Rebecca is a force of nature. She is a licensed clinical social worker, eye movement desensitization and reprocessing consultant and trainer, registered yoga teacher and owner of Kase & CO Training and Consulting and EMDR training company. She is an inspirational speaker, author, thought leader, and advanced trauma expert. Her work has been featured in books, articles, podcasts, keynotes, conferences, and workshops. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, more about her training and consulting practice, and how teaching EMDR through the lens of Polyvagal theory helps supercharge therapy and the recovery process. Rebecca, welcome to our podcast. 01:21 RebeccaHey Brad, so excited to be here. Thanks for sharing space with me. 01:26 BradleyWell, thank you for being on the show with us. I'm excited to talk about your journey and as you've seen probably in other episodes of our podcast, we love talking about your background, your journey, a little bit more and then talking about what you're doing with your credentials, your experience. So, to start off, you know, can you tell us a little bit more about your background and the journey that led you to become a licensed clinical social worker and EMDR expert, consultant, and trainer and then eventually owner of Kase & CO? 01:58 RebeccaYeah, absolutely. So, I got my undergrad in psychology. I declared my major in psych pretty early, I think my freshman year, after I went to my first psych 101 class and I was just like oh my gosh, I love this. I get it. This makes sense to me. Something just really clicked inside, and I really felt like this is my path. I didn't know exactly what my path would look like, but I knew it was along the field of psychology. So, I took a deep dive in undergrad. I graduated early actually and graduated with a number of graduate level courses, uhm, in my pocket because I just loved going to class. I loved taking neuroscience classes. So, I graduated in about 3 1/2 years with my bachelors in Psych. And then I took kind of a break year to figure out what's the next step. And in that break year, I did some volunteer work with an amazing group called AmeriCorps. Probably a lot of people have heard of it. I bet a lot of people in this podcast have actually volunteered with AmeriCorps. AmeriCorps is an awesome organization, nonprofit, that works in a lot of different settings. And so I was in St. Louis, MO. And so, I was in an inner-city school, and I did inner city tutoring with elementary school kids. And I absolutely loved it. And as I was taking kind of that break year that gap year and volunteering with AmeriCorps, I was also trying to figure out what's the next step. I know I gotta go to grad school because I can't really do anything with the bachelors in psych. And there's so many options do I wanna get a doctorate? Do I wanna get a master's in counseling or do I do I wanna do social work? What is social work? And so, I started really comparing programs. And a couple of things that finally landed me in social work. One my experience in AmeriCorps was very much I feel a social work kind of experience. You know, I was working with these kids who came from the inner city of Saint Louis living in poverty, had a lot of A scores. I didn't know about the A study back then, but had a lot of adverse childhood experiences, really struggling in school. Often had a lot of chaos in their family lives and so I felt really involved and engaged in multiple systems of their experience of their day-to-day lives and systems was very much a focus of social work. So, there was something that kind of primed the pump with that. And then as I was looking at different programs, I was certainly interested in some master's in counseling programs and looking at social work programs and, to be completely honest,

61: Lauren Cook, PsyD – Clinical Psychologist, Professional Speaker, Consultant, and Author of Generation Anxiety Shares her Journey and how to Build your Career based on your Passions Sep 12, 2023

Dr. Lauren Cook grew up loving theater, performing arts, and public speaking. She also loves the intimacy of the one-on-one connection and having deeper conversations. As an undergraduate student, Dr. Cook recalls being more interested in journalism, in fact, she had an internship at NBC News and E! and thought that is what she wanted to do because she loved the storytelling component of it. However, when she saw the lifestyle of the journalist (always on the go, always on the road), she reconsidered and thought that she could bring the storytelling component of journalism into psychology by helping people understand their stories and helping them on their journey. This is one of the reasons why she pivoted into psychology along with knowing that “one of the most rewarding aspects of our job is really feeling like we are making a difference in people’s lives.” In this podcast, Dr. Lauren Cook shares her academic and professional journey, explains why she earned a PsyD instead of a PhD, and discusses how she has applied her experience, passion, and degrees to create her own personalized career where she could focus on clinical psychology, professional speaking, consulting, and writing. She shares how she created the opportunities to satisfy all of her passions and how to maintain a work-life balance. Dr. Cook shares “it was always a dream of mine to have a private practice. And I would meet so many clinicians who were so afraid of having a private practice. ‘That seems impossible. How do you do it? I’m interested, but I just don’t even know where to begin.’ You know, it actually, it wasn’t too hard. I feel like if you want to do it, and you’re willing to ask other people who have done it, it’s very much possible.” She discusses how she started her own private practice called Heartship Psychological Services in Pasadena, CA during the pandemic. She always thought she would (or should?) have a brick and mortar, however, she now questions the need for one as most of her clients are virtual and PSYPACT exists now where if you are licensed in one state, you have the ability to provide services for people in other states. She is excited to see how PSYPACT plays out as it may mean that practitioners don’t need to have a traditional office as in the past. Dr. Cook also shares how she finds the majority of her clients (it’s probably not what you’re thinking…find out more around 22 minutes into our conversation). Dr. Cook is a professional speaker with CAMPUSPEAK and shares how she got started when she went by “The Sunny Girl” and spoke about all of the happiness research. Her very first book, The Sunny Side Up! Celebrating Happiness was published in April 2013. Since then, she has published a couple more books including Name Your Story: How to Talk Openly About Mental Health While Embracing Wellness (2017) and her newest book Generation Anxiety: A Millennial and Gen Z Guide to Staying Afloat in an Uncertain World (2023). Dr. Cook states “I really wanted to tailor it to millennials and Gen Z and also the family members who are supporting millennial and Gen Z person, we are just seeing anxiety go through the roof. I’m very candid about my own lived experience with anxiety and how I’ve been able to work through that in my own life. And so, I really wanted to give people the tools to really figure out how to cope with anxiety and it’s through what I call ‘empowered acceptance.’” Not only is Dr. Cook available for speaking engagements (keynotes, seminars, courses, etc.), but she also offers consulting services, professional development, and clinical psychology services dealing with anxiety management, life transitions, couples dynamics, effective decision making, and identity development. She also enjoys doing her podcast, The Boardroom Brain, in which she has “insightful conversations with CEOs, entrepreneurs, and business leaders as we explore what makes up the psychology of success.” When asked what she loves most about her job, Dr. Cook responded, “That is a tough question. You got me there. You know, it really, I’d say, is a tie between working one-on-one with my therapy clients and my speaking. They’re so different and my soul is a little bit of a Yin-Yang.” She explains that the performing aspect of speaking engagements fills her bucket for theater and the performing arts while the clinical work and therapy fills her bucket for having deeper conversations and passion to help others. What advice does Dr. Cook have for those interested in the field of psychology? She offers many pieces of practical advice including going to therapy yourself. “The best way to see what this work looks like is to go to therapy and you can watch someone in real time doing the work with you and start to ask yourself, ‘would I be happy doing this work 8 plus hours a day?’” She also suggests jumping straight into the doctoral program if you know that you ultimately want to earn a PsyD or PhD. At the same time, she believes that it is important to be honest about the expectations of getting into a PhD or PsyD program. Depending on the university and program, acceptance rates for clinical psychology programs may range from 3% to 15% while acceptance rates for PhD programs in other subfields of psychology such as developmental psychology, cognitive psychology, or social psychology, can vary between 8% to 25% or more. PsyD programs are more practitioner-focused than PhD programs and typically have slightly higher acceptance rates and may range from 20% to 35% or higher. Dr. Cook states “only 8 people out of 800 get into UCLA’s PhD program, for example, so, obviously, those programs are highly competitive.” Therefore, students may “have to be willing to move to Wisconsin” or some other area of the country as it is highly competitive at the top-ranked, well-known PhD programs. When asked what essential skills or qualities she believes all psychology students should cultivate during their education and training, Dr. Cook stated “I’d say two key things. One is really having that empathy, that compassion for others. At the end of the day, I really do feel like this is a career about helping and serving other people. And so really having a passion to, you know, connect with other human beings, we were talking about that at the very beginning of the show. And see where you feel called and where you feel drawn.” Dr. Cook shares that she lives and breathes Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT). She states, “I’m a big Steven Hayes fan and love all things ACT.” Near the end of our conversation, Dr. Cook re-emphasizes her love for the field of psychology by stating “I will say it’s rare that I find a provider who doesn’t love what they do. It’s rare that someone tells me they regret entering this field. So, if you feel like you have the passion and you want to do it, it is the best thing to be a part of, and so I hope everybody listening finds their right fit.” Connect with Dr. Lauren Cook: LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | Tiktok | YoutubeConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/851106216 Interests and Specializations Dr. Cook specializes in anxiety by helping individuals and couples work through generalized anxiety, social anxiety, phobias, OCD, and more. She takes a multiculturally-informed approach that examines the intersectional identities of a person in the context of their own environment and applies third-wave tenets (e.g., CBT, ACT, DBT) to help teams apply mindfulness, cognitive flexibility, and values-identification for intentional living. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Psychology & Communications (2013); University of California, Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA.Master of Science (MS), Marriage & Family Therapy (2016); University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA.Doctor of Psychology (PsyD), Clinical Psychology (2020); Pepperdine University, Malibu, CA. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Lauren Cook: Psychology TodayDr. Lauren Cook: Generation Anxiety book at Amazon Podcast Transcript 00:12 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Lauren Cook to the show. Dr. Cook is a clinical psychologist, professional speaker, consultant, and author. She began her training at UCLA, where she majored in psychology and communication studies. She earned her Master's degree in Marriage and Family Therapy from the University of Southern California. Dr. Cook then completed her doctorate in clinical psychology from Pepperdine University. She is the founder of Heartship Psychological Services in Pasadena, CA, and she is also a professional speaker with CAMPUSPEAK. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, more about Heartship Psychological Services, and hear more about her forthcoming book, Generation Anxiety: A Millennial and Gen Z Guide to Staying Afloat in an Uncertain World. Dr. Cook, welcome to our podcast. 01:19 LaurenBrad, thanks so much for having me on. Glad we're doing this. 01:22 BradleyI appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to talk with us. I'm excited to go through your journey. I noticed, first off, that you received your bachelor's degree in psychology and communication studies. I also received my communication study undergraduate as well, interpersonal grad as well. So, I can relate to you, but I see you received that from UCLA. You know, overall, can you tell us about your journey to become a psychologist and what motivated you to pursue this career path? 01:51 LaurenAbsolutely. Yeah. You know, it's it's interesting. When I got started in undergrad,

60: Kimberly Berens, PhD – Scientist-Educator, Founder of Fit Learning, and Author of Blind Spots Discusses How she found her Passion and Built a Career using her Psychology and Behavioral Sciences Degrees Aug 29, 2023

Dr. Kimberly Berens grew up around psychology as her father was a psychiatrist. Her mother was a biologist, so she was also very interested in the natural sciences. She recalls that family dinner time conversations were always interesting as they talked about various mental health issues, general psychology, and human behavior and development. As a result, Dr. Berens originally planned on majoring in biology and minoring in psychology when she started her undergraduate career at Rollins College in Winter Park, FL. Although her introduction to psychology class was unique in that each section of it was taught by a professor known in that area of psychology, she was somewhat unimpressed as she “didn’t see a lot of science involved in those sections.” However, that all changed when Dr. Maria Ruiz, her first mentor, walked into the classroom. Dr. Berens shares that Dr. Ruiz was “teaching the section on behavior science and that day changed my life forever because it was at that moment that I discovered that actually there is a natural science of human behavior, and that is what behavior science is.” She ended up switching her major from biology to psychology and Dr. Ruiz remained her mentor through her time at Rollins and beyond. Dr. Berens shares her academic and professional journey in this podcast and reveals how she applied her degrees in psychology and behavioral science to co-create a powerful system of instruction based on behavioral science and the technology of teaching, which has transformed the learning abilities of thousands of students worldwide. As a doctoral student at the University of Nevada, Reno, Dr. Berens founded Fit Learning in a broom closet on campus and has expanded her business to more than 31 locations worldwide with 3 to 5 new locations opening each year. For more than 20 years, her system of instruction has produced one year’s worth of academic growth in only 40 hours of training. In addition to Dr. Maria Ruiz, Dr. Berens discusses how other mentors have helped influence and shape her knowledge, career, and passion for helping improve the education and quality of life for students. She discusses, among others, Dr. Elbert (Eb) Blakely, Dr. Ogden Lindsley, and Dr. Seven C. Hayes who also appeared as a guest of the Master’s in Psychology Podcast in November, 2022. She explains that she received her theoretical basic science mentor in Maria and her clinical and applied mentor in Eb. Steven was another one of her mentors while in undergraduate school and she recalls, “I knew that I had found what I was going to do for the rest of my life.” Dr. Berens explains why she attended the University of Nevada for her doctorate in behavioral sciences and provides advice to those who are interested in the field of psychology or behavioral sciences. She recommends that you find a mentor who you look up to and who is doing research in the area of study you are interested in so that you can learn from them. Don’t be afraid to introduce yourself and say, “I’m looking for a mentor” or “I’m looking for someone to guide me through the process of potentially exploring doctoral training or masters training in the field.” You may be surprised to learn how many faculty members are overjoyed when a student seeks them out for help and asks them to be their mentor. Dr. Berens also discusses her newest book, Blind Spots: Why Students Fail and the Science That Can Save Them. Close to 70% of kids are now below proficiency in all academic subjects in America and this increases to more than 80% for students of color and those living in poverty. Dr. Berens explains “the reason is because science isn’t used in instruction and teachers aren’t trained in science and education is actually an ideological institution, not a pragmatic or scientific one.” We discuss the fact that most teachers are not taught how to effectively teach. We have all had that teacher or professor who obviously knew their subject but didn’t know how to teach it to their students. Dr. Beren’s states, “one of the greatest misunderstandings is that a subject matter expert will naturally be able to teach that subject, and if a student can’t learn from a subject matter expert, then that means something’s wrong with the student because there couldn’t possibly be something wrong with the subject matter expert because they’re so brilliant at their subject matter.” Dr. Berens believes education is more important than ever right now and it is time for our educational system to evolve. Blind Spots is a book that every parent, teacher, and policymaker should read as it explains the dismal situation the American education system is in but also provides hope and a system of instruction based on learning, behavioral, and cognitive sciences that markedly improves how students understand and achieve when science is at the heart of instruction. She believes “when you’re not training teachers to be more effective, when you’re not actually bringing science into the design of instruction, nothing is going to change.” She points out that “just because kids fail academically doesn’t mean there’s something wrong with their brains. It doesn’t mean they have a learning disability. It doesn’t mean that there’s something wrong with them. That means that there’s actually something wrong with the way they’re being instructed. There’s actually something wrong with the way schools are designed and teachers are trained, but that’s a difficult thing to get people to understand and not do it in a way that offends people and makes people defensive.” When asked what she loves most about her job, Dr. Berens response was “the best thing about my job is changing a kid’s life. You know, you have a kid who’s coming in and has been told they’ll never learn to read. Has been told that they have something wrong with them.” She further explains “And having an opportunity to actually produce an unbelievable level of mastery and competency with that learner very quickly in an area that they were told they’d never master. That is life changing, and it’s not just life changing for the kid. It’s life changing for the team who gets to have the power to do that for that kid and it’s life changing for the whole family. So, my, you know, the best part of my job is transforming kids’ lives. That’s it. Period.” Connect with Dr. Kimberly Nix Berens: LinkedIn | Twitter | FacebookConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/852246585 Interests and Specializations Dr. Berens applies behavior science to rapidly accelerate academic and cognitive skills with kids and adults. She specializes in applying natural science to instruction and to the education of students. She co-created a system of instruction based on behavioral science and the technology of teaching, which has proven to produce one year’s worth of academic growth in only 40 hours of training. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Psychology (1996); Rollins College, Winter Park, FL.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Behavioral Sciences (2005); University of Nevada, Reno, Reno, NV. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Kimberly Nix Berens: AmazonDr. Kimberly Nix Berens: Simon & SchusterDr. Kimberly Nix Berens: Psychology Today Podcast Transcript 00:12 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Kimberly Nix Berens to the show. Dr. Berens is a scientist-educator, Founder of Fit Learning, and author of Blind Spots: Why Students Fail and the Science That Can Save Them. She co-created a powerful system of instruction based on behavioral science and the technology of teaching. Dr. Berens has expanded her business by establishing a formal certification and licensure program to the point where Fit Learning now has 31 locations worldwide, with 3 to 5 new locations every year. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, more about Fit Learning, and hear her advice to those interested in following a similar career path. Dr Berens, welcome to our podcast. 01:13 KimberlyHi, thanks for having me. 01:15 BradleyWell, thank you for taking the time out of your schedule to talk with us. As you are aware, we kind of go through your academic and professional journey and I see, first off, that you received your bachelor's degree in psychology from Rollins, Collins Rollins College in Winter Park, FL. Based on my research, it appears that those years at Rollins were very instrumental, as you found a couple of important mentors. Can you share with us your journey and background in the field of psychology and education that led you to your career path? 01:46 KimberlyYes, well, you know, I grew up around psychology because my father was a psychiatrist, so we always would have, you know, our dinner time conversations were always pretty interesting, you know, talking about various mental health issues and just general psychological, you know, questions I had about human behavior and so I, you know, I kind of grew up interested in in human behavior, to be quite honest. But my mother was a biologist, so I was also very interested in the natural sciences. So, when I ended up at Rollins College, which is a really small liberal arts College in Florida, I was actually planning on majoring in biology and minoring in psych. And then you know, I started taking my first intro to psychology course and I have to say, you know, the intro to psych course at Rollins was broken into sections. And so, each professor that specialized in that area of psychology taught that section. And so, you know, we went through the normal personality and neurosis, you know, neuropsychology and, you know,

59: Sa-kiera Tiarra Jolynn Hudson, PhD – A “must listen to” podcast as “Kiera”, Assistant Professor at UC Berkeley Hass, Reflects on her Journey, and Offers Insightful Advice Aug 18, 2023

Are you considering a career in the field of psychology but don’t know where to start or what questions to ask? Perhaps you are a high school, undergraduate, or graduate student who is looking for insightful and practical advice regarding your academic and professional career path in psychology. In this podcast, Sa-kiera “Kiera” Hudson, PhD, reflects on her journey and transition from undergraduate student to graduate student to postdoctoral fellow to Assistant Professor at University of California Berkely Hass School of Business in the Management of Organizations (MORS) group. Throughout our lively and candid discussion, Dr. Hudson shares practical and insightful advice for those interested in advancing their educational and professional careers in the field of psychology. Add this to your “must listen to” podcast list as Kiera provides an honest and transparent view into her personal, academic, and professional journey and offers impactful advice on a variety of topics. Sa-kiera “Kiera” Tiarra Jolynn Hudson is a first-generation college student who matriculated at Harvard before switching over to Williams College in Massachusetts, where she received her Bachelor of Arts in Biology and Psychology. When she attended Williams, she originally wanted to be a biology and STEM major as she thought it was important to do STEM as a Black woman. Kiera thought “psychology was what people did when they couldn’t hack it in the sciences” so when she needed to take a fourth course in her sophomore year, she thought “let me go take this easy psych class that everyone is talking about.” She recalls, “I was floored. I fell in love with psychology because it was the study of social issues using the scientific method. And that blew my mind, it just, it truly, truly did.” She discusses how her introduction to psychology class was taught in a unique way (i.e., it was taught by 5 different professors each in their own discipline). Kiera then attends Harvard University and explains the process related to searching for graduate schools and programs in the field of psychology and why she ultimately chose Harvard for her doctorate in Social Psychology. She recalls, “one thing I had to remember when it comes to picking graduate programs that is different than undergrad, and part of that is, when you’re picking a program for graduate school it's really about the fit with your advisor.” During our discussion, Kiera opens her Google spreadsheet and shares the exact details regarding how many graduate programs she applied to, how many interviews, and some other factors she considered when making her final decision on where to attend for her doctorate. When considering all of the graduate programs and universities in psychology, Dr. Hudson suggests that “you’re not going to get everything from one person and you’re actually not going to get everything you need from one place, and I don’t think you should.” She then discusses the pros and cons of having older, tenured professors as advisors versus having younger, pre-tenured professors and how having both can be beneficial. When asked how she found herself in the area of social psychology versus other areas or branches of psychology, she states, “Great question. So, I honestly believe that a lot of these fields of psychology are blending…and, to me, it always comes down to methods, theories, and frames of reference. So, there might just be certain things that you’re really drawn to do.” She also shares her thoughts on the qualities and skills that psychology students should have if they want to work in the field including the ability to “abstract up” and “be a critical but constructive thinker” and to learn the foundational theories in any particular field as these will help you build your “collective wall of knowledge” and help you talk with many different people in the field. In her case, Dr. Hudson shares that having this knowledge helped her stand out and she was able to engage with almost anyone’s research. Dr. Hudson talks about the tenure process and the adjustments associated with transitioning from a graduate student to Assistant Professor. She also discusses a program called Institute for Recruitment of Teacher (IRT), a program that helps minority scholars get into either K-12 programs or PhD programs by providing guidance and support through the graduate school application process and advocating for additional funding for advanced study. IRT offers a summer program or a year-long program. Kiera is unique in many ways. For example, she created a planner called the LOT Planner (Life on Track Planner) when she was in graduate school because none of the existing planners had everything she needed as a graduate student. The LOT Planner is now making a comeback as more and more people are interested in using it because it is made for academics and uses a sticky note system. Kiera is also unique in that she doesn’t drive; she hasn’t needed to, until now. California is not as interconnected as the East Coast. Luckily, she was going to have her first driving lesson the day after our podcast discussion and will eventually take her driver’s test. Kiera is also unique because she has two middle names. She is proud to share her full name Sa-kiera Tiarra Jolynn Hudson because her favorite middle name is her second middle name as it is a combination of her grandparent’s names. You can find out more around the 1-hour mark in the podcast. Dr. Hudson’s final advice for those interested in the field of social psychology? She states, “Advice? It’s, honestly, remember that a lot of great ideas started out from observation and life experiences. Me-search is actually how all research happens. Don’t let anybody tell you any differently. And so, to really like lean on your unique experiences because there’s a reason why I think psychology is having an explosion of intersectional work. There are more scholars for which intersectionality comes up naturally. I don’t think that’s, you know, a coincidence. And so, thinking of that, people who might think, ‘oh, I don’t belong here’ (a) you absolutely do and (b) we actually need you because these research ideas that you are going to naturally come up with are going to intersect with existing theories in really cool and fun ways and that is how the field is going to move forward.” Connect with Dr. Sa-Kiera Hudson: LinkedIn | Twitter | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/850336604 Interests and Specializations Dr. Hudson has multiple lines of research. Dr. Hudson studies hierarchies: How hierarchies are formed, maintained, and how they intersect. She also examines stereotyping as a mechanism of hierarchy maintenance. She examines the nature of descriptive and prescriptive stereotypes at the intersections of multiple social identities. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Biology and Psychology (2011); Williams College, Williamstown, MA.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Social Psychology (2020); Harvard University, Cambridge, MA. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Sa-kiera Hudson: Google ScholarDr. Sa-kiera Hudson: Sidanius Lab (Harvard) Podcast Transcript 00:14 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Shakira Hudson to the show. Dr. Hudson is an Assistant Professor at University of California, Berkeley Haas School of Business in the Management of Organizations Group. She completed her doctorate in social psychology from Harvard University and she was an NSF postdoctoral fellow in psychology at Yale University. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, more about her role as Assistant Professor at UC Berkeley, and hear her advice for those interested in the field of social psychology. Dr. Hudson, welcome to our podcast. 01:07 KieraThank you so much. I'm so excited to be here. 01:10 BradleyWell, I'm glad that you took the time out of your schedule to talk with us. I'm really excited. One of the fun things for me is doing the research on all my guests and you have a a very, very interesting and a varied background as well. And so, I wanted to start off. Usually, we talk about your undergrad and then your graduate, and then what you're doing now. So, I see that you received your bachelor's degree in biology and psychology at Williams College. First of all, tell us more about your undergraduate experiences and what first sparked your interest in psychology. 01:44 KieraSo I went to Williams College, which is a small liberal arts College in Massachusetts. I honestly didn't know anything about undergrad. So, I'm first Gen. and I ended up going to Williams because there was somebody in the admissions office who was from the Albany area, so upstate New York and found me. And she's like, hey, how about you check out Williams? And so that is how I ended up visiting Williams. I fell in love with it. I was actually supposed to go start my undergrad at Harvard. I actually matriculated at Harvard before switching over to Williams, so we can talk about the differences between a SLAC and R1 if you want to. But when I came into Williams, I knew I wanted to be a biology major. I took essentially three years of biology in high school and middle school. And so, I wanted to be a STEM major. And as a black woman, it was important for me to do STEM, and so I also thought psychology was what people did when they couldn't hack it in the sciences. So, I was like, no, psychology is for those who are not very good at science. And so, sophomore spring, I needed to take a fourth course. I was like, yeah,

58: Haley Perlus, PhD – Sport & Performance Psychology Expert, Speaker, Consultant, and Author Shares Her Unique Journey, Experiences, and Advice Aug 08, 2023

Dr. Haley Perlus is unique. Since she was 12 years old, Dr. Perlus aspired toward a career in sport psychology as a junior world champion athlete. Within one year of earning her PhD at the age of 28, she became a professor, well-known public speaker, consultant to national team and division I scholarship athletes, published author, and appointed industry leader. Together with her personal experience as an elite athlete and coach, and her fitness and nutrition certifications, Dr. Perlus takes a unique 3D approach to helping people achieve their highest standard of performance in sport, business, and wellness. In this podcast, Dr. Perlus shares her unique journey and advice to those interested in the field of sport psychology and those who want to make a difference in their own life and their clients’ lives. Dr. Perlus is from Toronto, ON Canada and has a unique story to share regarding how she chose her career as a sport psychologist. She states, “I had a fabulous coach when I was 12 years old, who put a lot of pressure on me. In fact, one race he pulled out a $100 bill and put it in front of my face and told me that he had bet on me to win.” She explains that her coach really taught her about preparation from a mental standpoint to help her perform better. She adds, “he also brought a sport psychologist to come and speak to my team…and so putting the two together, how he was coaching me and what the sport psychologist was saying, there was one day when I went home, and I told my parents that I wanted to do sport psychology and I was 12 years old.” Dr. Perlus received her BA in Kinesiology from the University of Western Ontario and her MS in Sport Pedagogy from the University of Florida. She attended the University of Northern Colorado for her PhD in Sport Psychology because she always loved Colorado. Although the advisors, curriculum, and research were wonderful, she admits that she chose the school because it was in Colorado, and she loved the changing of the seasons and she could continue skiing. She shares that the number of PhD programs in the field of sport psychology was really “slim pickings” at the time in that area of the country. She recalls Denver University had a combined master’s program and now they have a “fabulous” program thanks to Dr. Mark W. Aoyagi. On her website, YouTube channel, and in her practice, Dr. Perlus shares Mental Toughness Tools and sport psychology tips. She also shares advice with those interested in the field of psychology. Throughout her journey, she surrounded herself with people who could mentor her and share their experiences and advice. She also states, “I really looked outside of academia as well” and “observed and watch what people who were applying the art or science of sport psychology was doing.” She mentions that being a sport psychologist is good and bad. She states, “sport psychology is great because you have this niche. Sport psychology is bad because you have this niche.” Some people may think that you can’t broaden your horizons or apply sport psychology outside of the sports field. However, you can and should. Dr. Perlus mentions one of her mentors, Dr. Jim Loehr, who is a sport and performance psychologist who “completely went into the corporate world” with his sport psychology. If you are new to the field, you may wonder what is sport psychology or sport and performance psychology? According to the American Psychological Association (APA), “sport psychology is a proficiency that uses psychological knowledge and skills to address optimal performance and well-being of athletes, developmental and social aspects of sports participation, and systemic issues associated with sports settings and organizations.” Sport psychology has been coined the “Science of Success” because it studies how successful people optimize their psychological and emotional states for maximum results. Dr. Haley Perlus is a disruptor and firmly believes that she can apply her specialized knowledge and experience to help those outside of sports. She shares, “I realized that this mental toughness, the performance of psychology of sport, is not just for athletes. So, in my practice I work with, definitely athletes, but I also work with businesspeople, health enthusiasts. A lot of the businesspeople that I work with bring me to their kinds, you know, so it’s more of an eclectic, holistic approach.” She has worked with various well-known brands worldwide including ESPN, Starbucks, Morgan Stanley, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Marriott, US Ski Team, Ironman, Deloitte, and many others. She has spoken at many events including VISTAGE, Tec Canada, Elite Finess and Performance Summit, and Trilogy Athletes. Her articles have been featured in various publications such as Thrive Magazine, Fitness Magazine, IDEA Fitness Journal, EpicTimes, Telluride Inside, MyVega, and BeachBody. Dr. Perlus is the author of The 7 Fastest Weight Loss Success Tips & Secrets, The Ultimate Achievement Journal, The Inside Drive, and The Guidebook to Gold Series as well as appointed Industry Leader by IHRSA. Dr. Perlus is currently writing a new book called Personal Podium which is sport psychology based but is applicable to anyone. She states, “it’s really about how to earn your own gold standard of performance in life. So, whether you’re pursuing sport, whether you’re pursuing business, whether you’re pursuing your health and wellness, you know, it’s really understanding how can we have unshakeable confidence.” She summarizes by stating “it’s really about having the desire, having the belief, and having the focus. And I go into really specific action steps.” Dr. Perlus shares impactful advice throughout our discussion. For example, she states, “it’s really important to understand that you’ve got to look forward and really understand what kind of career you want and make sure that you get the right education to support that.” Also, she states, “there’s this, sometimes, this belief if I have to have the degree, I have to have all the knowledge and then I’ll start. And I’m not a big believer of that. I believe that we learn by doing…go and grab your connections, go, and talk to the people you already know and volunteer. It’s not like I got paid for everything, but just go and volunteer and start, and start implementing immediately.” She explains “I started my consulting practice my first year of my master’s program and I think that’s really important as we are learning the content, to start using the content as well.” She also adds, “so don’t do this if you don’t care. Being in the field of psychology, if you don’t truly care about everyone you’re working with, find something else to do.” When asked for any other advice for those interested in the field of sport psychology, Dr. Perlus shares “get your toes wet…just get your toe wet and then another toe and then you know, the next thing you know, you’re in it and it’s amazing. And keep your eyes open. Keep your eyes open for opportunities because they are everywhere…So, just keep your eyes open and create opportunity. Be creative.” Connect with Dr. Haley Perlus: LinkedIn | Twitter | Youtube | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/847669639 Interests and Specializations Together with her coaching, fitness, and nutrition certifications, Dr. Haley Perlus takes a 3D approach to helping people achieve their highest standard of performance in three key focus areas: sport, business, and wellness. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Kinesiology (2002); University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada.Master of Science (MS), Sport Pedagogy (2004); University of Florida, Gainesville, FL.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Sport Psychology (2008); University of Northern Colorado, Greeley, CO. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Haley Perlus: Amazon Podcast Transcript 00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Haley Perlus to the show. Since she was a 12-year-old Junior World champion athlete, Dr. Perlus has aspired toward a career in sport and exercise psychology. Within one year of earning her PhD at the age of 28, she became a professor, public speaker, consultant to national team and Division One scholarship athletes, published author and appointed industry leader. Together with her coaching, fitness, and nutrition certifications, Dr. Perlus takes a 3D approach to helping people achieve their highest standard of performance in sport, business, and wellness. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, more about her practice, and how Dr. Perlus educates, motivates, and inspires people to reach their peak potential. Dr. Perlus, welcome to our podcast. 01:22 HaleyThank you so much, Brad. I'm happy to be here and answer any questions to help everyone in psychology. 01:28 BradleyWell, I am glad that you're on the same page as me. I really enjoyed learning about your journey and usually if you've seen our podcast, we quickly go over your academic and professional journey. So, I see that you received your bachelor's degree in kinesiology at the University of Western Ontario. So, tell me a little bit more about your undergraduate experiences. How did you end up in Ontario? 01:50 HaleyWell, I'm Canadian. So it was that was kind of just the natural thing. There was a there was a school two hours outside of Toronto in London ON. And so, the school was an easy pick close to home. I could still. I was a ski coach, and I was a group fitness instructor and personal trainer, so I could still do all of that while going to school.

57: Roxy Manning, PhD – Clinical Psychologist and Certified Center for Nonviolent Communication (CNVC) Trainer Shares her Journey, Passion, Advice, and Discusses her Two New Books Jul 23, 2023

Can one person leverage the power of Nonviolent Communication (NVC) and the power of authentic dialogue to create a more just, equitable world? A world in which a person can be both fierce and compassionate while directly challenging racist speech or actions without shaming the other person? In this podcast, Dr. Roxy Manning, a clinical psychologist, and certified Center for Nonviolent Communication (CNVC) trainer, shares her journey and passion for nonviolent social justice. She also discusses her two new books that help people learn about their own implicit biases, how to engage in antiracist conversations, and the power of authentic dialogue. Dr. Roxy Manning originally thought that she was going to be a medical doctor. Then, when attending Howard University, an historically black college in Washington, DC, she realized that she disliked chemistry, so she eventually transferred to the City College of New York where she had five different majors before realizing that psychology was something that she found “really intriguing and interesting.” After receiving her bachelor’s in psychology, Dr. Manning attended Binghamton University in NY where she earned her PhD in Clinical Psychology. She had her first child while in graduate school and shares a brief story about that experience. She states, “my dissertation adviser, who really was quite amazing, gave me this little, tiny room in the lab where I could put a little play pen and he came with me to campus like almost every day.” After having her third child, Dr. Manning took a break and stayed home and that is when she started a very small private practice where she could see a few clients. During this time, she also learned about Nonviolent Communication, “So, I started doing a lot of training and education in that and started merging those two fields, king of bringing all the things I knew from psychology with working with people individually with nonviolent communication, and then working with organizations.” Dr. Manning is a certified Center for Nonviolent Communication (CNVC) trainer and integrated NVC into her psychotherapy practice since 2003 and has been offering classes and workshops in NVC since 2005. Throughout our discussion, Dr. Manning openly shares her journey, experiences, and advice not only to those interested in the field of psychology but also to those who want to learn more about their own biases and how to engage in antiracist conversations. Dr. Manning discusses her two forthcoming books. In the first book, How to Have Antiracist Conversations, Dr. Manning provides a new way to conceive of antiracist conversations, along with practical tools and frameworks that make them possible. Her work is grounded in the idea of Beloved Community, as articulated by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., as a goal to aspire to and even experience now, in the present, when we give up on the transformative power of human connection within ourselves, with potential allies, and with those who words and actions create harm. In the second book, The Antiracist Heart, Dr. Roxy Manning and Sarah Peyton explain the neuroscience behind concepts such as privilege and its impact on the brain, disgust and coded language, and microaggressions and provide specific exercises and skill sets designed to rewire the brain, in order to unravel implicit bias. Implicit biases begin forming before we have language and are deeply rooted in the subconscious. By combining neuroscience, introspection, and self-compassion, one can disrupt unconscious patterns. During our discussion, Dr. Manning delineates between a “conversation” and “authentic dialogue.” She states, “I think of conversations as we’re kind of sharing information, I might be wanting to let you know about my point of view, but that’s it. When I think about dialogue, I’m thinking about I’m actually sharing honestly and vulnerably my experience inviting you to share yours with the idea that we can be moved, we can be shifted by each other’s experience. And this is huge.” What advice does Dr. Manning share for psychology students just starting their academic journey? She provides plenty of advice including, “think outside the box…go out there and interview people, research people. If you want to do clinical, it was really helpful that I could spend 2 years as a domestic violence counselor.” She states, “so, get some of those hands-on experiences that will let you know that, yeah, this is really what I want to do for the next 50 years of my life.” For those interested in opening their own business or private practice, Dr. Manning shares this thoughtful and impactful advice, “one of the things that someone told me, that was connected to my nonviolent communication practice and my psychology practice, was to find your niche. You know, there are millions of psychologists out there, but what makes you unique?” Connect with Dr. Roxy Manning: LinkedIn | Facebook | Twitter | InstagramConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/846162869 Interests and Specializations Dr. Roxy Manning is a clinical psychologist and certified Center for Nonviolent Communication (CNVC) trainer. She brings decades of service experience to her work interrupting explicitly and implicitly oppressive attitudes and cultural norms. Dr. Manning has worked, consulted, and provided training across the US with businesses, nonprofits, and government organizations wanting to move towards equitable and diverse workplace cultures, as well as internationally in over 10 countries with individuals and groups committed to social change. As a psychologist, she works in San Francisco serving the unhoused and disenfranchised mentally ill population. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Psychology; City College of New York, New York City, NY.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Clinical Psychology (2000); Binghamton University, Binghamton, NY. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Roxy Manning: Fierce Compassion PodcastDr. Roxy Manning: Linktree Podcast Transcript 00:14 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Roxy Manning to the show. Dr. Manning is a clinical psychologist and certified Center for Nonviolent Communication Trainer. She brings decades of service experience to her work, interrupting explicitly and implicitly oppressive attitudes and cultural norms. Dr. Manning has worked, consulted, and provided training across the US with businesses, nonprofits, and government organizations wanting to move towards equitable and diverse workplace cultures as well as internationally in over 10 countries with individuals and groups committed to social change. She works as a psychologist in San Francisco and is author of How to Have Antiracist Conversations: Embracing Our Full Humanity to Challenge White Supremacy and co-author with Sarah Peyton of the companion text, The Antiracist Heart: A Self-Compassion and Activism Handbook. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, more about her practice, and more about the power of authentic dialogue. Dr. Manning, welcome to our podcast. 01:36 RoxyThank you, Bradley. And please call me Roxy. 01:40 BradleyThat sounds good. Thank you, Roxy. And as you probably know and are aware, our podcast briefly goes over your academic and professional journey. So, to start off, I'll ask you, tell me a little bit more about your undergraduate experiences. Where did you go to school? Your major, that sort of thing. 01:58 RoxySo, I started out actually at Howard University, which is a historically black college in Washington, DC and after one year, I really struggled. I thought I was going to be a medical doctor ever since I was 7, I kept saying, I'm going to be a doctor when I grow up, but when I got to Howard, I realized I hate chemistry. It was not for me. And so, I was struggling there for a while and my dad said come back home, which was New York City. So, I finished my undergraduate degree at City College of New York in New York City. And there I studied, I think I had five different majors before I realized psychology, yeah, this is something that I find really intriguing and interesting. And that matches what I thought was true of the field at the time, which was I hate sitting in the 9:00 to 5:00 kind of setting. And so, if I were a psychologist, I'd have lots of flexibility. 02:49 BradleyAnd so, you had many different majors, but was it just that introductory to psych class that sparked your interest in the field of psychology or what actually sparked your interest? 02:59 RoxyI think it was a combination of intro to psych and then social, intro to social psych especially because I've always been really interested in like systems and groups. 03:04 BradleyOh, OK. 03:09 RoxyAnd how they work together. So probably that was what got me really excited about it. 03:14 BradleyWell, I noticed that you actually, let me share my screen for a second. You actually received your doctorate from Binghamton University, and you earned your PhD in Clinical Psychology. There are many New York graduate psychology programs that offer graduate degrees. So, tell us what drew you to Binghamton? 03:35 RoxyWell, this is going to sound really sad. At the time, I was dating my high school sweetheart and he was getting his PhD in math at Binghamton, and he'd gone there, undergrad, masters, and doctorate. And so, I decided to move up there at the end of my fourth year in college and when I did, I had a couple of classes left to take. So, I took those classes in the psych department at Binghamton. 03:59 BradleyOK.

56: Sanam Hafeez, PsyD – Neuropsychologist, Director & Founder of Comprehensive Psychological Services, and TV & Media Medical Expert Shares her Journey and Advice to Building a Successful Career in Psychology Jul 17, 2023

Dr. Sanam Hafeez immigrated to the US from Pakistan when she was 12 years old, and she was the first one in her family in this country to go to college. Though both of her parents were college educated and has an uncle in London who has a master’s in psychology, there was no one to really guide her through the college experience. She started college earlier than her peers (17 years old) and found the freedom of college intoxicating. At first, she thought that she could stay in her room and read all of the books and materials instead of attending classes. She gravitated toward older people, and it was these friends who helped her realize the importance of going to class and educated her on how doctoral programs, and the schools that offer these programs, are the hardest schools to get into. She recalls, “I was very quickly made aware of the fact that I wasn’t going to sail into a program.” In this podcast, Dr. Hafeez shares her interesting and unique journey and offers impactful advice regarding building a successful career in the field of psychology. Dr. Hafeez earned her PsyD in School-Community Psychology from Hofstra University. Dr. Hafeez is a neuropsychologist, Director & Founder of Comprehensive Consultation Psychological Services (CCPS) with two locations in NY (one in Manhattan and the other in Queens), and a TV & media medical expert. She is published as a contributing author to The New York Times, The Washington Post, and Wall Street Journal. She has appeared as an expert guest on The Dr. Oz Show, CNN News, CBS, NBC, and others. Dr. Hafeez is fluent in English, Urdu, Hindi, and Punjabi (Pakistani and Indian languages) and shares how this helped her find opportunities and grow her business. During our discussion, Dr. Hafeez actively sought out opportunities to set herself up for a very successful academic and professional career. The advice she offers throughout this podcast is practical and impactful. For example, she states, “one of the things that I love to tell everyone, but especially the younger people, [is] that your friends can truly make your or break you.” She knew in high school that she wanted to be a psychologist and was undeterred from that path. Even when her academic advisor at Queens College, where she attended for her undergraduate degree in psychology, laughed at her when she told her that she wanted to get a doctorate in psychology, Dr. Hafeez didn’t let her break her spirit or deter her from her goal. Her advisor stated, “I can’t believe you think you’re going to get into a doctoral program. You’re not going to get into a doctoral program. Your best bet is to get a masters in psychology and then try your luck.” Dr. Hafeez didn’t apply to a single master’s program. Instead, she applied to only three doctoral programs and was accepted into all three of them (Hofstra University, Pace University, Long Island University). She shares a few of the reasons why she selected Hofstra University for her doctorate instead of the other universities. When opening her own private practice, Dr. Hafeez recalls never “skimping” on hiring help or staff. She states, “I know I could not do everything myself. I knew I needed help with answering phones, making appointments, billing, support staff, people to help with the psychometrics of things. So, I have always hired very generously, compensated generously, and it’s paid me back.” She believes treating people with respect and knowing your own limitations as it “allowed [her] to flourish and grow as a person, as a clinician, it’s helped my evolution.” She grew her practice very organically through hard work and referrals, and eventually got contracts with the City of New York and with the Departments of Education in Long Island, and Nassau, Suffolk, and Westchester Counties. We discussed her private practice at length and how fascinating the brain is because it never really takes a rest, even when you are sleeping. She contributed to an article that appeared in the Wall Street Journal about how much we learn while we sleep. There are studies that show “we have something called sleep spindles that actually absorb information. So, people who listen to a tape on, let’s say, a new language they were learning while they were sleeping and then learned it during the day were much more able to absorb and learn the language more proficiently than those who are just learning it during the day.” When asked for any final words of advice to those interested in the field of psychology, Dr. Hafeez stated “I think the younger folks need to hear that they have, they should have, they have the world at their fingertips, literally (referencing a cell phone)” and “they should embrace every aspect of themselves, not apologize for it. Embrace it…follow your passion. Don’t let anyone tell you that you can’t do it…Throw yourself into everything and eventually you’ll find your way.” Connect with Dr. Sanam Hafeez: LinkedIn | Facebook | Twitter | InstagramConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/845477568 Interests and Specializations Dr. Sanam Hafeez specializes in diagnosing and assessing ADD, ADHD, PTSD, and traumatic brain injury psychopathology (bipolar, schizophrenia, depression, anxiety) and other conditions. She is a sought-out media medical expert and serves as an expert witness in cases ranging from custody to immigration. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Psychology (1998); Queens College, CUNY, Flushing, NY.Master of Science (MS), Psychology (1999); Hofstra University, Hempstead, NY.Doctor of Psychology (PsyD), School-Community Psychology (2002); Hofstra University, Hempstead, NY. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Sanam Hafeez: CVDr. Sanam Hafeez: Psychology Today Podcast Transcript 00:14 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Sanam Hafeez to the show. Dr. Hafeez is a neuropsychologist and director and founder of Comprehensive Consultation Psychological Services, otherwise known as CCPS, or Comprehend the mind, which this this facility is actually a diagnostic and treatment Center for neuropsychological psychiatric and educational difficulties. CCPS has two locations: one in Manhattan and the other in Queens. Dr. Hafeez has been practicing as a licensed psychologist in New York City since 2004 and specializes in ADD, ADHD, PTSD, and traumatic brain injury psychopathology, including bipolar, Schizophrenia, depression and anxiety, as well as other conditions. She is a sought-out media expert and serves as a medical expert and expert witness in cases ranging from custody to immigration. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, more about CCPS and hear her advice to those interested in the field of psychology. Dr. Hafeez, welcome to our podcast. 01:38 SanamI'm happy to be here. Thank you for having me on. 01:41 BradleyI appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to talk with us. I know that one of the fun things for me is doing all the research on my guests beforehand, and so I did notice that you received your bachelor's degree in psychology from Queens College. Tell me a little bit more about your undergraduate experiences and when you first took an interest in psychology. 02:03 SanamSo, I, I was one of those, maybe, maybe not so rare at the time I thought I was a little bit rare because a lot of my friends didn't quite know what they wanted to do. They maybe had an idea, maybe some leanings, but I was in high school, and I said I am going to be a psychologist. I knew very little about what that would entail because obviously this is before the time of the Internet, you know, so you. Whatever you knew, you knew from movies and TV and maybe some books that you've read, and I just thought that's what I want to be. And I was undeterred from, from that path. I, I, I, didn't even. When people tried to tell me, well, you know, you might change your mind when you go to college. I go, “no, I'm going to be a psychologist.” And so, I get to college. And I immediately of course I was one of those people who immediately, you know, put her major down and Queens College is a fantastic school for those who know Queens College. It's part of the CUNY program, CUNY University system. When it, I think it's the second largest system in the country and amazing faculty. It's just a brilliant school and you don't pay a tremendous amount to go to school. And so, it was great because I wasn't, you know, laden with debt when I left and I had an amazing education, a lot of my friends went with me from high school, and I made some amazing friends. So, my college experience was incredible. And what I do want to mention is, now, this is the 90s which is, you know, the era of the the dinosaurs at the at this point. I, I was the first one of my family in this country to go to college. Both my parents were college educated and my mother had a master’s degree in in, in economics. So, I come from an educated, college educated family. I have actually have an uncle in London who has a master’s in psychology, but there was no one to really guide me, you know, how the college experience would go. And I was also 17, I graduated earlier than my peers. So, when I started college, I was really a kid in so many ways, and the freedom was intoxicating. And I could get a car and I could just, you know, there were no cell phones. So, my parents couldn't track me, and if I didn't go to class, no one found out it was amazing, you know. And I made some really good friends and I think one of the things that I love to tell everyone, but especially the younger people,

55: Lisa Orbé-Austin, PhD – Licensed Psychologist, Executive Coach, and Imposter Syndrome Expert Shares Her Journey, Advice, and Discusses Her New Book Your Unstoppable Greatness Jul 12, 2023

Dr. Lisa Orbé-Austin was the first person in her immediate family to go to college. Her parents were immigrants and wanted her to become a successful doctor, lawyer, or businessperson. She liked kids so she originally thought she would be a pediatrician. She experienced some obstacles so she changed her major to English as she thought she could become a writer. In this podcast, Dr. Orbé-Austin shares her academic and professional journey including how her path changed from becoming a pediatrician to a writer, to an Assistant Professor, to becoming a licensed psychologist. She openly shares her struggles and successes as well as the self-reflection process that led her to the field of psychology including how, and why, she opened her own private practice in the greater New York City area. Dr. Orbé-Austin is a licensed psychologist and executive coach with expertise in Imposter Syndrome, career advancement, and leadership development. She is a co-founder and partner of Dynamic Transitions Psychological Consulting, a career and executive coaching consultancy, where she works mostly with high potential managers and executives. Dr. Orbé-Austin earned her doctorate in Counseling Psychology from Columbia University. Her views about career advancement, leadership, job transitions, and diversity & inclusion are regularly sought by the media, and she has appeared in outlets such as The New York Times, NBC News, Forbes, The Huffington Post, Refinery29, Business Insider, and Insight Into Diversity. She has been honored twice as a Top Voice on LinkedIn in the areas of Job Search & Careers and Mental Health. She gave a TEDx talk entitled The Imposter Syndrome Paradox: Unleashing the Power of You. Dr. Orbé-Austin shares many stories and impactful advice during our discussion. For example, she was an RA (Resident Assistant) for two years and really loved working with students, counseling them and supporting them in their own journeys while in college. She states, “And I thought maybe I could be a counselor or a psychologist. And my father, at the time, worked at an insurance company and they happened to have an EAP (Employee Assistance Program) and he said, ‘there’s a psychologist there. Do you want to talk to her about what it takes to become a psychologist?’” The psychologist she talked with happened to be a counseling psychologist and an English major during her undergraduate career. Dr. Orbé-Austin recalls that the psychologist she talked to “was the first person who really introduced me to the idea of a counseling psychologist and gave me the entrée into then pursuing my, actually pursued my master’s degree at Boston College as well and it started my real love of psychology. And that’s where it really began.” She continues by stating, “I think what really, like really, changed the game for me was my internship my second year where I did it at Tufts University at the counseling center there working with Jonathan Slavin.” Dr. Orbé-Austin reveals that her training and experience at Tufts was a “clinical boot camp” for getting started and her experience as a Career Counselor and eLearning Coordinator in the Starr Career Development Center at Baruch College was the “boot camp of career counseling” as “it actually taught us how to do real career counseling and it was such a profound experience…it was the most amazing experience that actually led me to having a career aspect of my practice.” She was able to diversify her practice so that they offered psychotherapy and career counseling services, and this proved to beneficial during the recession “because people were not willing to, at the time, invest in psychotherapy, but they were willing to invest in career. And so, our career practice really thrived, and it became a mainstay of what we did and what we were known for because we were one of the few people, offering in our area, offering testing.” Dr. Lisa Orbé-Austin discusses her two co-authored books on Imposter Syndrome and how her first book, Own Your Greatness: Overcome Imposter Syndrome, Beat Self-Doubt, and Succeed in Life, is the book you should read if you want to overcome your own individual imposter syndrome. She states, “we’ve seen that people can actually reduce their imposter syndrome by 30% if they actually do that book.” Both of the books on Imposter Syndrome are actually workbooks. The second book, Your Unstoppable Greatness: Break Free From Imposter Syndrome, Cultivate Your Agency, and Achieve Your Ultimate Career Goals, focuses on how to sustain your imposter syndrome-free life, reduce burnout, and improve healthy leadership skills while conquering toxic work cultures. What advice does Dr. Orbé-Austin have for aspiring psychology students? Keep an open mind, experience something new and different (e.g., internships and externships), self-reflect, take risks, and allow yourself to dream. She states, “I really have allowed myself to dream and take risks. Some of them have gone well, some of them have gone poorly, but I really allow myself to kind of think about what I want next and dream.” Connect with Dr. Lisa Orbé-Austin: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn | Instagram | YoutubeConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/844456266 Interests and Specializations Dr. Lisa Orbé-Austin is a licensed psychologist and executive coach. She is an expert in Imposter Syndrome and specializes in career advancement and leadership development. She works with high potential managers and executives and regularly consults with organizations in the private sector, non-profits, and educational institutions in supporting their employees and senior leadership teams to address gender bias, equity, diversity, and inclusion concerns, effective communication, leadership development, team cohesion, and managing conflict. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), English; Boston College, Chestnut Hill, MA.Master of Arts (MA), Counseling Psychology; Boston College, Chestnut Hill, MADoctor of Philosophy (PhD), Counseling Psychology; Columbia University, New York, NY. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Lisa Orbé-Austin: Psychology Today Podcast Transcript 00:12 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology, I'm your host Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Lisa Orbé-Austin to the show. Dr. Orbé-Austin is a licensed psychologist, executive coach, and organizational consultant. She is also an impostor syndrome expert, author and Co-founder & partner of Dynamic Transitions Psychological Consulting, a career and executive coaching consultancy where she works mostly with high potential managers and executives. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, more about Dynamic Transitions, and we'll discuss her most recent, co-authored book, Your Unstoppable Greatness. Dr. Orbé-Austin, welcome to our podcast. 01:10 LisaThank you so much for having me, Brad. I’m happy to be here. 01:13 BradleyWell, as we were talking about before, we started recording part of the fun that I have is just doing all the research on all of my guests. And I see that you received your bachelor's degree in English from Boston College. However, based on my research, I think you originally started on a path to become a pediatrician, then pivoted to the English degree. So. First off, tell me about your undergraduate experiences and what made you change to English. 01:39 LisaSo, I was the first person in my immediate family to go to college and so there wasn't a ton of guidance or a lot of understanding of what my options were. My parents were, my mom was an immigrant, my dad was a second-generation immigrant, or first Gen. They just really wanted a successful kid and I think you know in in the in those in that time it was like doctor, lawyer, businessperson. And so, I since I was a kid, I was really supported to kind of go and be a doctor a MD and and specifically I had I was like kids. So I thought I would be a pediatrician and you know, and I think when I entered school, I was a bio a very classically bio pre Med major and really struggled in the sciences and math in a way I've never struggled before or I hadn't had struggles in math before, but not to the profound level where I can't even pass the class. I just. I really, it's just really didn't know what to do. I really had not like failed something before and it put me in situations where I was barely passing classes and nearly failing calculus and so at my second semester of my freshman year, I had to meet with the Dean because I got a 1.6 my first semester and I think a 1.8 my second semester. And he was like, you've got to make a decision. Don't think you can stay in the sciences, which you've gotta make another choice. Or else and you you only have, you don't have too long on academic probation before things get bad, and so he was like, I would encourage you to make a decision based on something you're doing well in. And at the time I was doing well in my English class and and so I thought, I think it was doing well making this pass. And doing well in Spanish. And so, I decided I was going to major in English, and I ended up like taking a billion languages while I was in grad school, cause I really loved languages. And so, I just switched and at the time, you know, my parents were immigrants. They're paying a lot of money for my tuition, and they were disappointed and had never seen me perform so poorly. In their minds, I I I was just not doing what I was supposed to do. Meanwhile, I was studying all the time, had no social life like was really doing everything I could to keep my head above water,

54: Hannah Schacter, PhD – Assistant Professor of Psychology at Wayne State University Shares Copious Practical Advice While Discussing her Academic and Professional Journey Jun 30, 2023

Dr. Hannah Schacter grew up in the Boston area and in a family where both parents were psychologists, so she was exposed to the field at an early age. She recalls being very interested in the idea of data and learning about other people. She states, “I remember being in fifth grade and taking surveys of things like people’s favorite ice cream flavor in my class.” As she got older, she developed an interest in working with children. She worked at summer camps and babysat, and it wasn’t until she attended college where she had the opportunity as a psychology major to merge her interests by studying child development and developmental psychology. In this podcast, Dr. Schacter shares many experiences related to her academic and professional journey to help those interested in the field of psychology gain perspective, learn from her experiences, and how best to navigate the journey. Throughout our discussion, Dr. Schacter provides copious practical advice and even shares some moments that helped shape her interests, direction, and choices regarding which university to attend for her undergraduate and graduate career as well as how she conducted the process related to searching for graduate schools and programs. Dr. Schacter is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Psychology at Wayne State University and Adjunct Assistant Professor in the Merrill Palmer Skillman Institute for Child & Family Development. She is also the Director of the Adolescent Relationships in Context Lab (ARC). Dr. Schacter started getting involved in research during her undergraduate career at Hamilton College in Clinton, NY. During our discussion, she explains why she travelled from the East Coast to the West Coast to attend UCLA for her graduate degrees (MA and PhD) in developmental psychology. She also discusses how she found various opportunities as an undergraduate and graduate student as well as how she found her postdoctoral fellowship at the University of Southern California. For example, she shares how she became an undergraduate research intern at Yale University by applying for the Research Experiences for Undergraduates (REU) program through the National Science Foundation. Dr. Schacter explains the various ways of finding a postdoc fellowship. She explains one way of finding funding for postdoctoral researchers on the NSF website. In today’s environment, more and more academic institutions expect that you have postdoc experience before applying for a faculty position. She states, “I would say it has become increasingly common and I would also probably say it’s more common than not to have postdoc experience before entering a faculty position.” Dr. Schacter shares her advice regarding how to best select your graduate school or program. She states, “I think so much of a PhD is really what you make of it” and “ I think it’s less about, you know, making the right choices and more about making a choice that feels like a strong fit.” She also points out that there is an interpersonal aspect of selecting your graduate program and mentor. She suggests that you ask yourself “is this someone you want to work closely with for, you know, 5-6 years? That’s, that’s an important factor as well. Do you get along? Do you feel like they’re going to be a supportive mentor?” In response to my question regarding how to keep students motivated and passionate about their studies and their research, Dr. Schacter suggests immersing yourself in your work and surrounding yourself with other students, people, and mentors in the field. She also reminds us that some schools have Psi Chi, which is a society for students in psychology, and this can be used to help keep you focused and expand your knowledge and network. Near the end of our discussion, she offers some additional advice for those interested in the field of psychology. She states, “I think talk to as many people as you can, especially, you know, if you’re, if you’re in undergrad and you have the opportunity to talk to your professors, talk to your classmates. Different people have different advice and different experiences. That’s what’s so great about a podcast like this is I’m sure you’re getting both some overlap in themes, but also really unique journeys that people have been on. And so, I think, I think the more people you talk to and hear their own stories, that’s a really powerful way of determining your own.” Connect with Dr. Hannah Schacter: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedinConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/841061275 Interests and Specializations Dr. Hannah Schacter’s research areas focus on developmental psychology, adolescent development, and peer relationships. She is interested in how adolescents’ social relationships, their peer relationships, connect to both their mental and physical health. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Summa Cum Laude, Psychology (2012); Hamilton College, Clinton, NY.Master of Arts (MA), Developmental Psychology (2013); University of California, Los Angeles, CA.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Developmental Psychology (2017); University of California, Los Angeles, CA. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Hannah Schacter: Google ScholarDr. Hannah Schacter: CV Podcast Transcript 00:12 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Hannah Schachter to the show. Dr. Schachter is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Psychology at Wayne State University and Adjunct Assistant Professor in the Merrill Palmer Skillman Institute for Child & Family Development. She is also the Director of the Adolescent Relationships in Context (ARC) Lab. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, more about her professorships at WSU, and discuss the ARC Lab. Dr. Schachter, welcome to our podcast. 00:59 HannahThank you. Thanks so much for having me. 01:01 BradleyWell, I appreciate you getting on and talking about your journey. I, I the fun part for me as I was telling you before we started is I get to learn more about your academic and professional journey. And so, our goal is to go through that first and then talk about how you ended up at WSU, a day in the life of you and your job. And then talk a little bit more about the lab and then obviously provide some advice to any students who are the least bit interested and aspiring to stay in the academic field in psychology. So, I noticed that you received your bachelor's degree in psychology from Hamilton College in Clinton, NY. Tell me a little bit more about your undergraduate experiences and what exactly ignited your interest in psychology. 01:45 HannahYeah, I’d be happy to share more. So, I went to Hamilton College for those that don't know, and many may not. It is a very small liberal arts school in upstate New York, so it's about 1800 students total, which was actually even smaller than my high school was, so very different environment than somewhere like I am now as a professor. It's a big public, research intensive university. When I came to Hamilton, I already knew I wanted to be a psychology major. Part of that was I, I grew up in a family of both parents being psychologists, so I was exposed to the field pretty early on I, at a fairly young age, just became really interested in the idea of data and learning about other people and kind of evaluating patterns. So, I remember being in fifth grade and taking surveys of things like people's favorite ice cream flavor in my class. And you know, tallying up the totals and ranking. And so, I think that that very early on was an interest of mine. And then as I got a little bit older, I also developed an interest in working with children. So, I worked at summer camps. And, uh, babysat a bunch and it really wasn't until I got to college and felt like I had the opportunity through a psychology major to sort of merge those interests when I got really interested in child development and developmental psychology. So at, at Hamilton initially I was just taking psychology classes kind of in the typical way that a psych major would, and then it's it was one of these funny, you look back and you realize so much was shaped by what felt like, at the time, kind of a disaster scenario but I had signed up for an ECON class my first semester of college. I think because my roommate had, I didn't really have that much interest in economics, but I took the course I got through my first exam and I completely bombed it. I did so horribly. And it was looking like if I continued in this class, it was already my first semester of college going to tank my GPA. I went to my academic advisor who was in the psychology department, and I said I don't know what to do. And she basically told me if I wanted to drop the class, it wasn't too late, but I would have to make up the credits. Could do so through these semesterly research credits, which over time would accumulate to be enough to make up the class. So, I started getting involved in research, and it was sort of like the rest was history after that. 04:07 BradleyWell, I did notice that and we'll talk a little bit more about some of your experiences leading up to, you know, college and even through Graduate School. You know, one thing I noticed is you were in New York and then all of a sudden out of the blue, you decided, hey, I want to travel all the way across the United States and go to California. There are so many different schools in California that offer graduate degrees in psychology. So tell me your thought process about, well, how did you decide to go to UCLA for your graduate degree?

53: Emily Bashah, PsyD – Belly Dancing Licensed Psychologist, Author, and Podcast Co-Host Shares her Personal, Academic, and Professional Journey and Discusses The Optimistic American and her New Co-Authored Book Addictive Ideologies Jun 20, 2023

Dr. Emily Bashah is a licensed psychologist, author, and podcast co-host with a private practice in Scottsdale, AZ. She was born and raised in Canada and her parents are from Iraq. In this podcast, she shares her personal, academic, and professional journey and discusses The Optimistic American and her new co-authored book Addictive Ideologies: Finding Meaning and Agency When Politics Fail You. Dr. Bashah also shares what drew her to the field of psychology and her commitment to humanitarian and social causes, about which she feels very passionate. Dr. Bashah shares a story of her parents living in Iraq during the rise of Saddam Hussein’s power and control. She states, “so, when my parents were living there, my father was 17 years old at the time…he’s riding his bicycle and all of a sudden, he comes across a commotion in the main Town Square, which is called Tahrir Square, and this is in Baghdad, and he sees that there are Jews that are being publicly hanged. This was a mock trail. It went over a couple of days. Basically, the government hand-picked several Jews. There were actually seven Jews that were hanged that day, two of whom were minors under age 17, and they were falsely accused for being spies for Israel.” Dr. Bashah later shares “unfortunately, my grandfather, my mother’s father at the time, was last seen being pushed into a government vehicle and disappeared. The last we know about his whereabouts, he was taken to an underground jail called the Palace of No Return, never to be heard from again.” Dr. Bashah remembers being 12 years old and really committing herself to “somehow undoing or finding some kind of justice for the harm that had been committed to my family and my grandfather’s disappearance because I saw how much it really traumatized my, my mother and my father.” She shares that she wanted to work with people in some kind of healing capacity and “that’s really what led me to psychology.” Dr. Bashah discusses her work in forensics and how the intersection of psychology and law has helped her in her private practice as well as earning her a reputation as an expert witness in criminal, immigration, and civil courts. She has also worked on high-profile cases related to domestic terrorism, capital offenses, and first-degree murder. In addition to her private practice, Bashah Psychological Services, PLC, she is involved with The Optimistic American and is co-host of The Optimistic American podcast alongside her partner and co-host Paul Johnson, entrepreneur, and former mayor of Phoenix, AZ. Together, they also co-authored a new book Addictive Ideologies: Finding Meaning and Agency When Politics Fail You. Dr. Bashah shares the harrowing story of the persecution of Jews in Iraq by Saddam Hussein and the Ba’ath Party through her family’s own personal experiences while Paul Johnson uses his own mayoral experiences to chart a path for the future that can avoid similar atrocities. The book draws upon an understanding of societal divisions and clinical and social psychology to show the real power we have to promote constructive change. Dr. Bashah reflects on her journey and shares advice with those interested in the field of psychology and shares a message of hope for those who want to recreate themselves. She states “I'm an author. I have a podcast. I have a private practice. I supervise doctoral students. I'm a businesswoman. I'm an entrepreneur. There are all these different facets of me. I'm an expert in courts, but also, I'm called upon as an expert in media and in news...so, there’s so many different things that you could recreate who you want to be. It’s a wonderful thing, and psychology permits that, but find your own path.” Near the end of our podcast discussion, Dr. Bashah shares how she picked up belly dancing and why dancing is such an important part of remaining connected to her Arab ancestry and heritage. She also offers additional advice including “I know a lot of your guests and listeners are students and may be at those critical stages of making these really big career decisions in their life. It's, you know, really lean into the challenges. Allow yourself to be challenged and confront the unknown and really follow, follow your passion, know your truth.” Connect with Dr. Emily Bashah: Twitter | Facebook | Linkedin | InstagramConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/837844303 Interests and Specializations Dr. Emily Bashah clinically specializes in mental illness, personal and collective trauma, addiction, grief, loss, family dynamics, and relationships. She is certified by the International Institute for Humanistic Studies for application of Existential-Humanistic Psychotherapy and trained in Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Trauma-Informed Therapy, Emotion-Focused Therapy, and process-oriented therapies. Education Arts and Science Diploma, Specialization in Family Studies (2004); Langara College, Vancouver, Canada.Bachelor of Arts (BA), Psychology (2006); The University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada.Master of Psychology, Clinical Psychology (2009); Flinders University of South Australia, Adelaide, Australia.Doctor of Psychology (PsyD), Clinical Psychology (2015); The Arizona School of Professional Psychology at Argosy University, Phoenix, AZ. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Emily Bashah: AmazonDr. Emily Bashah: Psychology Today Podcast Transcript 00:00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Emily Bashah to the show. Dr Bashah is an accomplished author and licensed psychologist with a private practice in Scottsdale, AZ called Bashah Psychological Services. She has a remarkable background as an expert witness in criminal, immigration and civil courts, and she has worked on high profile cases related to domestic terrorism capital offenses and first-degree murder. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, more about her private practice, and discuss her new co-authored book, Addictive Ideologies: Finding Meaning and Agency When Politics Fail You. Dr. Bashah, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:10 EmilyThank you, Bradley, so much for having me on your show. Really, it's an honor. 00:01:14 BradleyWell, thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule to talk with us. I actually have a fun time doing research on all of our guests and thank you for sending me the book. We'll talk about that later. I was able to read up to Chapter 2. I didn't have enough time to get any further, but what I read I was really excited about. So, to start off, I think you already know that for our podcast we usually go through that academic and professional journey then we talk about your current works, how you're applying your degrees, and then we'll talk about some of the other things you're working on. So, I did notice that you received your bachelor's degree in psychology from the University of British Columbia in Vancouver. Tell me about your undergraduate experiences and what originally sparked your interest in psychology. 00:01:59 EmilyWell, to go back about how I found my way to psychology, I'd have to give you a little bit more about my personal background. So, my parents are Jews from Iraq. We've been there. I mean, since the beginning of Babylonian Jewry Heritage there. And during the rise of Saddam Hussein's power and control, there was a backlash against a lot of the minorities, religious minorities, that were living in Iraq at the time. And so, Jews became a persecuted minority. So, when my parents were living there, my father was 17 years old at the time. There's actually a chapter that I dedicate to his story in our book as well as my mom's story. So, my father was 17 years old. He's riding his bicycle and all of a sudden he comes across a commotion in the Main Town Square, which is called Tahrir Square, and this is in Baghdad and he sees that there are Jews that are being publicly hanged. This was a mock trial. It went over a couple of days. Basically, the government hand-picked several Jews. There were actually seven Jews that were hanged that day, two of whom were minors under age 17, and they were falsely accused for being spies for Israel. Basically, this was a propaganda ploy put out by Saddam Hussein to really let the Jewish community know that we're coming after you. We're coming after all of your assets. We're coming after your homes and that's exactly what happened. And so there was a mass wave of people fleeing, but you couldn't just get a passport at that time, so government seized property, people disappeared. Unfortunately, my grandfather, my mother's father at the time, was last seen being pushed into a government vehicle and disappeared. The last we know about his whereabouts, he was taken to an underground jail called the Palace of No Return, never to be heard from again. And actually, what was interesting was after the US invasion in Iraq, there were a lot of documents that were released and we were searching through those documents and we were finding that they were spying on my family and the Jewish community as well as the classes and students. But what really promoted my interest in psychology is that there is this intergenerational trauma. There's this story that my family had, and there was a lot of grief and loss and pain. And I grew up hearing some of these stories, some of which my parents really didn't want to relive and retell, but yet I knew that there was something very, very painful there. So, as I got older,

52: Janeé Steele, PhD, LPC – Licensed Professional Counselor, Certified CBT Therapist, and Walden University Core Faculty Discusses Her Journey and New Book Black Lives Are Beautiful May 29, 2023

Dr. Janeé Steele is a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC), counselor educator, and has earned the status of Diplomate and Certified CBT Therapist through the Academy of Cognitive and Behavioral Therapies. Dr. Steele is the owner of Kalamazoo Cognitive & Behavioral Therapy, PLLC where she provides therapy, supervision, and training in CBT. She is also a member of the core faculty at Walden University School of Counseling where she has served as a counselor educator for the past 10 years. Her scholarly activity includes service as an associate editor of the Journal of Multicultural Counseling & Development and authorship of works focused on the areas of CBT, cultural diversity, social justice advocacy, and counselor training. She has published conceptual and research-based articles in peer-reviewed journals including the International Journal for the Advancement of Counseling, Counselor Education and Supervision, and the Handbook of Counselor Education. During her senior year in high school, Dr.Janeé Steele did not really have post-graduation plans until her aunt called her and asked, “where are you going to college?" Janeé responded, “I’m not” to which her aunt replied, “yes, you are.” Dr. Steele shared “I’m from a generation where you kind of just do what your elders say. So that was pretty much the end of the conversation. Like literally, she said ‘yes, you are. Ok, talk to you later.’ And we hung up.” She remembers having to quickly figure out where she was going to college. Her aunt was starting law school so she could go where her aunt went to college or where her aunt was attending law school. So, she left Arizona and went to Southern Illinois University where she earned her BA in Psychology. This started her journey in psychology and counseling. Dr. Steele shared this, and many other, stories related to her academic and professional journey highlighting where she received her degrees, why she chose the schools and programs, and the people who influenced her career. One of the people she mentions in this podcast is a professor named Kevin Cokley. Dr. Steele states, “he was doing a lot of really interesting research related to the psychology of the African American experience. And that was so impactful for me as an African American just looking at ways in which this field can be used to enhance the mental health and the quality of life of people who look like me.” Dr. Steele stayed at SIU to earn her MSEd then attended Western Michigan University for her PhD in Counselor Education and Supervision. Throughout this podcast, Dr. Steele shares practical advice for those interested in the field of psychology and counseling and offers suggestions to those interested in opening their own private practice. For example, she states, “if we’re thinking about advice for individuals who are thinking about entering this field, I would really encourage them to anticipate the need to continue your education and to seek meaningful, as many meaningful certifications as they can obtain.” She believes that her CBT certification and her PhD have helped draw in more clients. She states, “having a PhD affords me a little bit more credibility as these both provide more credibility. And so, I think that as individuals are thinking about ways to make themselves appealing to the broadest number of individuals, they might want to think about things that lend credibility and provide evidence that they have adequate training to be able to deal with the mental health issues that people are bringing into therapy.” Dr. Steele discusses the impetus for her, and Dr. Char Newton’s, new book Black Lives Are Beautiful: 50 Tools to Heal from Trauma and Promote Positive Racial Identity. There are millions of workbooks and other resources focused on anxiety, depression, or self-esteem, however, there are not as many resources “that people could use to facilitate healing outside of the therapeutic dyad” for the issue of “stigma attached to therapy for members of the African American community that makes them less likely to seek professional help.” She continues by stating, “but we also wanted to provide something for clinicians to guide them in this process for themselves as they’re learning how to recognize and respond to racial trauma in their clients.” Dr. Steele shares her experience opening a private practice and the challenges she faced. One piece of advice she shares for those interested in opening their own private practice is “my strongest piece of advice would be to continue your education. There’s no way that you can learn everything you need to know in two years and 60 credit hours. Continuing your education is vital to your success as a practitioner and also to your clients’ therapeutic outcomes.” Connect with Dr. Janeé Steele: Facebook | Linkedin | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/831059872 Interests and Specializations Dr. Janeé Steele specializes in racialized trauma for Black women and in the treatment of depression and anxiety. She uses CBT techniques and mindfulness strategies to help her clients challenge negative thoughts that may lead to distressing emotions, behaviors, and physiological symptoms. In addition to earning the status of Diplomate and Certified CBT Therapist, she is also an ADHD-Certified Clinical Services Provider. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Psychology (2002); Southern Illinois University, Carbondale, IL.Master of Science in Education (MSEd), Educational Psychology (2005); Southern Illinois University, Carbondale, IL.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Counselor Education and Supervision (2010); Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo, MI. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Janeé Steele: Psychology TodayDr. Janeé Steele: Google Scholar Podcast Transcript 00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology, I'm your host, Brad Schumacher. And today we welcome Dr. Janeé Steele to the show. Dr. Steele is a licensed professional counselor and a certified CBT therapist. She has been a professional counselor for over 15 years and is the owner of Kalamazoo Cognitive & Behavioral Therapy. She has also been on the core faculty at Walden University School of Counseling for over 7 years and has recently co-authored a new book called Black Lives Are Beautiful: 50 Tools to Heal from Trauma and Promote Positive Racial Identity. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, more about her private practice, and discuss her new book. Dr. Steele, welcome to our podcast. 01:11 JaneéThank you so much. It's such a pleasure to be here today. 01:15 BradleyWell, I love that you are taking the time out of your schedule to be with us. One of the fun things for me as a host is learning more about our guests and you have a wide variety of experiences and and a a fascinating journey that we want to discuss. So usually, we go in chronological order kind of where you started. I'll ask you this. You received your bachelor's degree in psychology at Southern Illinois University. So, tell me more about your undergraduate studies and when you first took an interest in psychology. 01:47 JaneéYeah, I think it's really interesting that you frame this podcast in terms of journeys, because I would say my undergraduate studies were definitely a journey for me. In my senior year of high school, I did not really have post-graduation plans and sometime near the end of the school year my aunt called me, and she said so where are you going to college at? And I said I'm not. And she said yes you are. And I'm from a generation where you kind of just do what your elders say. So that was pretty much the end of the conversation. Like literally, she said yes you are, OK talk to you later. And we hung up. And so, in that moment, I was like, well, I guess I better figure out where I'm going to college. And she was actually starting law school at that time, and so I decided, well, I don't know anything about college. So, I can either go where she went to college, or I can go where she's going to school now. So, I left Arizona. I went to Southern Illinois University, where she was attending law school. In high school I always had a really strong interest in psychology, but I thought oh it's hard, you have to go to school for so long. I don't really think I can do it. So, when I entered into college, I pursued an elementary education major. But in the process of obtaining that degree, we had to take psychology courses and I just kept taking more psychology courses and more psychology courses because again, that interest was really strong for me. And eventually I was like well I've taken so many of these classes I could probably get a degree in psychology, and I did. And in many of my courses, there was a faculty member he was so wonderfully affirming. He really gave me the courage to pursue a master's degree in this field. And so that's how I ended up going from elementary education and psychology into my master's degree, which was in an educational psychology program focusing on school counseling at that time because I thought that would be a nice way to combine the two degrees. 03:50 BradleyWell, that was a nice summary. Thank you for that. The other thing that I have to follow up on is you know you stayed at Southern Illinois for your Master of Science in Education, actually in Educational Psychology. There are many schools in Illinois that offer these graduate degrees in psychology. What made you stay at SIU? 04:13 JaneéYeah, I think that in the time I was there during my undergraduate degree, I developed a really strong connection with Community and then also as I mentioned,

51: Char Newton, PhD – Psychologist, Assistant Professor, and Author Shares her Journey and Advice and Explains how she Found her Niche in the Field of Psychology May 22, 2023

Dr. Charmeka Newton, known as Dr. Char, originally wanted to become a journalist so she took communication and writing courses. However, while she was taking these courses, she also took some psychology classes and found that psychology matched her personality more than communication, so she ended up earning her bachelor's degree in psychology and communication. She recalls, “I think the thing that really sparked my interest [in psychology] was the ability to help people and to make an impact on individuals’ lives.” She followed that interest and passion by attending Penn State University for her master’s degree in Community Psychology & Social Change then followed up by attending Western Michigan University for her PhD in Counseling Psychology. In this podcast, Dr. Char shares her academic and professional journey and shares the experiences and mentors who helped her find her niche in the field of psychology. She has always loved counseling and psychology, so she knew early on in her career that she wanted to open her own private practice. However, she also realized that she loves teaching and supervising psychology students. She started her own practice, Legacy Mental Health, in Lansing, MI in 2014 and still maintains a case load of clients. Dr. Char is also a Clinical Assistant Professor at the University of North Dakota and enjoys teaching full-time. She states, “I’m able to supervise people through UND and supervise people through my practice so it was like right now I feel like this is probably the most satisfying time in my career because I found that niche. I found where I, you know, where my passions are, which are teaching supervision, multicultural work, and that’s just it, just feels really good when the work you do brings you joy.” If you are not sure about which area or branch of psychology to focus on, Dr. Char shares practical advice regarding finding your own niche. For example, in addition to reaching out to people who are doing research in the area in which you are interested, Dr. Char also recommends that you “start networking, start connecting with individuals so that you can begin to distinguish between the various areas of psychology and things you can do within the profession.” She also suggests “joining professional networks” and “student-based organizations” through organizations such as the American Psychological Association (APA) and other local and regional associations. She states, “connecting with professionals in the field that can also help you kind of find your niche and also develop yourself as a, you know, as a professional.” Dr. Char also shares how her nickname was “Safe Char” until she took a risk and did private practice and teaching full-time and UND. She discusses some of the challenges in taking this risk and provides advice to those who want to open their own private practice. Dr. Char also discusses the stigma around mental health, especially for African Americans and Black Americans. She states, “when we look at the research, we know that it takes African Americans and Black populations longer to enter into treatment and then once they enter in like their retention rate is much lower than white Americans.” She then shares how people and practitioners can overcome, and even change, this stigma. When asked what she loves most about her job, she responded “One of the things I love most is that I’m able to do stuff that can impact individuals, right, and so being able to like write a book and to know that people have been giving us good feedback…and it’s making the impact like that, to me, is the thing I love most.” You can hear more about her new book Black Lives Are Beautiful: 50 Tools to Heal from Trauma and Promote Positive Racial Identity around the 30-minute mark in the podcast interview. Near the end of the podcast discussion, she shares her favorite principle and admits that she loves basketball and LeBron James and says, “I always tell people, if I ever met LeBron, I probably would like pass out or something.” She and her brother or husband would play basketball to relax after a hard day of working. Connect with Dr. Char Newton: Facebook | Linkedin | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/828863491 Interests and Specializations Dr. Char Newton specializes in multicultural counseling, research methods, career counseling, tests and measurement, and clinical supervision of master’s-level counseling practitioners and students. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Psychology and Communications (2002); University of Michigan-Dearborn, Dearborn, MI.Master of Arts (MA), Community Psychology & Social Change (2004); Pennsylvania State University, University Park, PA.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Counseling Psychology (2009); Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo, MI. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Char Newton: Psychology TodayDr. Char Newton: Addressing Race and Racism in Therapy with Black Clients (Webinar)Dr. Char Newton: Appointed to Michigan Board of PsychologyDr. Char Newton: Signs you could be suffering from Racial Trauma (Article) Podcast Transcript 00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Char Newton to the show. Dr. Newton is a fully licensed psychologist and a Clinical Assistant Professor at the University of North Dakota. She is the owner and executive director of Legacy Mental Health Services in Lansing, MI. Dr. Newton is passionate about mitigating racial disparities in mental health treatment and has recently co-authored a new book called Black Lives Are Beautiful: 50 Tools to Heal from Trauma and Promote Positive Racial Identity. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, learn more about her recent work, and discuss her book Black Lives Are Beautiful. Dr. Newton, welcome to our podcast. 01:11 CharThank you so much for having me, I. 01:13 BradleyWell, I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to talk with us. One of the fun things about being a podcast host is I get to do all the research on my guests, and I loved looking at your journey. And so, the first thing I want to ask is you received your bachelor's degree in psychology and communication at the University of Michigan, Dearborn. Tell me what sparked your interest in psychology. 01:37 CharSo originally, I wanted to be actually a journalist, and so my major was originally communications with the hope of becoming a journalist. However, at the same time where I was taking communication classes, I was also taking psychology classes. I found that it really matched my personality more than the communication. And so, I ended up getting a bachelors in communications and also a bachelors in psychology. And I think the thing that really sparked my interest was the ability to help people and to make an impact on individuals' lives. And so, I kind of went a different route than what I started, but that's it's worked out. 02:18 BradleyWell, I see, and you already mentioned that you did that dual, you know the communication and the psychology, and I see that you after you received your BA you actually attended Penn State University for your Masters in Community Psychology & Social Change. There are many schools in Pennsylvania. And you can see on the screen that I'm sharing now both masters and doctorate level psychology programs in Pennsylvania as well. So, tell us, how did you decide on attending Penn State? 02:53 CharSo, it really was the program. So, I was in the Community Psychology and Social Change master’s program because my passion, as I said, was like to help people. And when I saw their program and community psychology is really helping people from like a more macro level and looking at how you can create change from a uhm community perspective, and so the program just seemed really unique to me. And that's what really attracted me to their program is just doing the research, also on the faculty members that were there and their research agendas. That helped me really nail it down as to where I wanted to go for a master’s program is that there were a lot of faculty who were doing research about creating social change on a more macro or larger scale level. 03:41 BradleySo, it sounds like the program actually drew you in more than anything. 03:45 CharYes, most definitely. Most definitely. 03:47 BradleyAnd then why did you decide to switch then and go to Western Michigan University for your doctorate in counseling psychology? Did you find that you wanted to switch your area or your focus or you decided, hey, I need a little change of pace. Tell me a little bit more about that. 04:03 CharSo, I actually had experience when I was at Penn State. I was a part of a research team that was looking at an alternative school program, looking at the impact of alternative education on at risk study. And when I was engaging in research, I was actually in the school setting, interacting with the students and engaging with them. And one of the things I noticed is that the big focus wasn't on the individual for the school, it was on changing behavior and they would use like a physical restraint program where oftentimes I walk into the building and kids would be restrained, like face down and it was like it made me upset because it's like, why are these kids treated like this? Like why is no one you know talking to them? I don't think they had a school counselor at this particular building. So, it was like I really began to get a passion to want to hear people's stories and to how to intervene and provide interventions for them versus just, you know,

50: Lisa Strohman, PhD, JD – Psychologist, Attorney, Author, Speaker, and Technology Wellness Expert Shares her Journey, Advice, and New Book Phone Alone May 15, 2023

Dr. Lisa Strohman is a licensed psychologist, attorney, author, and speaker. She is known for her work, advocacy, and education around mental wellness as it relates to our digital lives and is an international expert on the intersection of mental health and technology use. She earned her Bachelor of Arts degree in Psychology from the University of California, Davis where she graduated Magna Cum Laude. She later earned a PhD and JD by completing a joint integrated program in Law and Psychology at Villanova and Drexel University. Dr. Strohman is the founder/CEO of the Digital Citizen Academy (DCA) and the president of the DCA Foundation. In this podcast, we review her academic and professional journey, learn more about the DC Academy and its Foundation, and discuss her new book Phone Alone. Dr. Strohman grew up as a country girl who loved being outside with the animals. She originally wanted to go into medicine but realized that it wasn’t for her after her experience dissecting live animals in a lab. She had a psychology professor that she “absolutely adored” and found that psychology “felt natural” and easy for her so she shifted her focus to the field of psychology as she loved studying how the brain works and how individuals interact with each other and the world around them. In addition to her academic studies in clinical psychology and law, she worked as a visiting scholar with the profiling unit at the FBI, worked with law enforcement internet crimes units, and completed her dissertation in cooperation with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and the FBI. As a result of these experiences, she became passionate about helping prevent and educate students, parents, and educators on issues related to technology use and overuse. She states “DCA was really created out of a social need for what I saw as a clinical psychologist.” Dr. Strohman also has her own private practice but wanted to do more. She shares “I can only do and help one person at a time in an office. But DCA was really built out of my passion for families and kids that were struggling with self-harm and bullying, and the things that were happening online.” She discusses the DC Academy and the DCA Foundation and its goals. Dr. Strohman shares her advice with those interested in the field of psychology. She shares “if you have that calling in yourself, clinical psychology is really focusing on ‘I want to deal with individuals and help them through therapeutic measures.’” She also believes that it is important to be very empathetic as a therapist and shares her thoughts on the future of mental health and technology. Dr. Strohman has authored multiple books including Unplug: Raising Kids In a Technology Addicted World (2015), Digital Distress: Growing Up Online (2021), and Phone Alone (2022). She discusses her most recent book and shares how she stays up to date with the latest research and developments in the field of psychology and technology including following Jean Twenge and setting herself up to receive alerts on social media, addiction technology, and problematic internet use. Near the end of our discussion, Dr. Strohman states, “To me, it’s such a gift to be in this field and I think it’s an honorable field to be in and understand the magnitude of the power that you have in that and use that wisely and use it for good and with a full heart. Because I think that if you can do that, you will change the world in many ways over in this field.” Connect with Dr. Lisa Strohman: Twitter | Facebook | Linkedin | InstagramConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/826764156 Interests and Specializations Dr. Lisa Strohman specializes in developing curriculum to provide education and programs that address challenges children are facing daily through technology. She is known for her education and advocacy around mental health and technology wellness. She focuses on helping teens and college-age students struggling with issues including anxiety, depression, addiction, and technology overuse. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Psychology (1994); University of California – Davis, Davis, CA.Doctor of Jurisprudence (JD), Law (2000); Villanova University Charles Widger School of Law, Villanova, PA.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Clinical Psychology (2002); Drexel University, Philadelphia, PA. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Lisa Strohman: Psychology TodayDr. Lisa Strohman: Empowering kids to rise above technology addiction (TED Talk)Dr. Lisa Strohman: How do you find Self Worth? (TED Talk) Podcast Transcript 00:14 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Lisa Strohman to the show. Dr. Stroman is a licensed psychologist, attorney, author, and speaker. She is a nationally recognized expert on the intersection of mental health and technology use and has been featured in numerous media outlets, including CNN, NBC News, and the Wall Street Journal. Dr. Stroman is also the Founder and CEO of Digital Citizen Academy. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, learn more about the DC Academy and discuss her recent book Phone Alone. Dr. Stroman, welcome to our podcast. 01:08 LisaSo excited to be here. Thanks for having me. 01:11 BradleyWell, I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to be with us. I wanted to tell you before we started recording, I told you one of the fun things for me is to do all the research on my guests and you've been very busy ever since you went through grad school. So, I'm excited to kind of go through your journey. If you've seen some of our podcasts, we go through some of the academic and professional journey then talk about some of what you're currently working on. And so, to start off though, tell me what really motivated you to pursue a career in psychology? 01:41 LisaWell, it's actually an interesting one. I started out thinking I was going to go into medicine and I had a lab and we had a professor who had live animals that that we were dissecting, and I proceeded to throw up in front of everyone in the class and I thought I, I absolutely this is not my calling. And I had a psychology professor that I just absolutely adored, and it was just felt easy, and it felt natural to me and so I shifted immediately at that point and decided that that was probably better suited for me. 02:15 BradleyYeah, you didn't want to continue throwing up every time that you were exposed to that. So that's probably a good choice. 02:22 LisaRight. Yeah. 02:23 BradleySo, you, you received your bachelor's degree from UC Davis. At what point did you kind of know, hey, I wanted to go to UC Davis or other ones. I mean you and I both know California is a big state for psychology and colleges and courses programs. So, what made you decide to go to UC Davis? 02:42 LisaSure. So, I actually I ended up having to pay for my own college. My childhood was kind of tumultuous and so I went to junior college, and we had the ability to have a transfer agreement within California from this junior college and that is when I, I had two offers. I had an offer to go to UC Davis full ride and I had offered to go to UCLA and at the time I was dating my high school boyfriend and I said if you're not gonna marry me, I'm gonna go to UCLA. But if you, if we're gonna get married, I'll stay local. And so, we ended up getting engaged and that's how UC Davis got chosen over UCLA. 03:20 BradleyWow, so a lot of behind-the-scenes decision making. 03:23 LisaRight. 03:24 BradleyNow when I did the research, I found your bachelor. I found your JD and your PhD, but I didn't see if you received a BS or a BA in psychology. 03:35 LisaI received a BA in psychology, not BS, and I did a, two minors, one in human development, and then I also did one in memory and aging that which is like a special subspecialty at the time that they had there because I worked in Alzheimer's work at the time as a lab student had various jobs there. 03:57 BradleyOK, now one thing that I did notice when I was doing your research on your academic journey, you started work on your JD and your PhD in the same year. Working on a doctorate is challenging enough, but working on two must be, must have been very difficult. So, tell us why in the world did you decide to go ahead and start two doctorates at the same time? 04:19 LisaWell, so I was at UC Davis. I was working with a family that had four autistic children, and I was their lead therapist. And and I had worked as in policy and helping them like really navigate through the system for this family. And I had a professor, Dr. Jacqueline Horn and Dr. Dean Simonton, which they were both really instrumental and both of them said that there was programs out there that were combined programs. So, the JD PhD program, at the time that I applied there were three in the country, one was in Florida, one was in Nebraska, and one was in Philadelphia. The one in Philadelphia was the only one that had a clinical psychology emphasis, and so I applied, and I kind of forced my way in. They accept five students a year and, and I had to take tests GRE, GRE Psych, and the LSAT. And so, with my GPA and taking the LSAT twice because they said that I was two points shy of a guaranteed admittance, so I retook it and got the score, and that's where I ended up. 05:26 BradleyWow. So, for our listeners, you were in your JD, at Villanova University of Charles Widger School of Law and your PhD at Drexel University. So how did you decide? Maybe you already answered it, but I'm going to ask again.

49: Frank McAndrew, PhD – Experimental and Evolutionary Social Psychologist and Professor Discusses his Journey, The Power of Gossip, and the Psychology of Creepiness May 06, 2023

Dr. Frank McAndrew was born on a U.S. military base in Germany and grew up in the anthracite coal region of Northeastern Pennsylvania. When Dr. McAndrew started college, he recalls, “I was not at all interested in psychology because, like many people, I didn’t really know what it was about.” He knew that he wanted to become some kind of a scientist, probably a biologist. It wasn’t until he took an introductory psychology class, that he realized “there was this discipline that did all this cool stuff. It was a science. But it was doing a lot of the things that I thought biologists did, running rats through mazes and seeing how the brain works. And so, I got hooked in introduction to psychology.” Dr. McAndrew continued taking biology courses and “an awful lot of English literature courses” because he liked reading the plays and novels as “they were more interesting than textbooks.” He states, “I got a good broad liberal arts kind of education, but psychology was the thing that I really loved the most.” He shares that he decided to go to graduate school simply because he loved being a student and he found out that if he went for a PhD, he would get paid for doing something that he liked to do. He attended the University of Maine for his PhD in Experimental Psychology. In this podcast, Dr. McAndrew shares his academic and professional journey including his experiences when applying to graduate schools and offers advice about this process in hopes that current and future graduate students can learn from his experience. He also offers specific advice to those seeking a graduate degree in experimental psychology. For example, he states, “if we’re talking about a graduate degree in some area of non-clinical psychology, the prestige of the school you go to does matter, and that’s something, especially if you’re looking for an academic job, that carries an awful lot of weight when you’re on the job market.” On the other hand, “when you’re applying for a PhD in experimental psychology, in particular, you’re not really applying to a school, you’re applying to work with an individual.” Dr. McAndrew also offers his thoughts on the important skills that psychology students should develop in order to be successful in their future careers. Dr. McAndrew shares his thoughts on becoming a teacher and professor and discusses the academic lifestyle. After receiving a one-year appointment at Knox College in Galesburg, IL, he found that he liked teaching and the academics and admits that he “agonized” over staying in the academic world for “a good 15 or 20 years” after he started teaching. He said that it didn’t seem like a real job to his relatives because he had too much free time and “didn’t seem to have a boss.” He had many interviews for other jobs in marketing and research “but at the end of the day, whenever these job offers came through it always came down to, ok, I’ll be wearing a suit and I’ll get two weeks’ vacation and I’ll be working on things that other people think are interesting rather than what I think is interesting.” So, he stayed in the academic world and is now the longest-serving psychology professor in the history of Knox College (44 years & counting). In fact, he founded the environmental studies program at Knox and served as Chair of the Department of Psychology for a decade. He is currently the Cornelia H. Dudley Professor of Psychology and teaches introductory psychology, social psychology, industrial psychology, organizational behavior, statistics, evolution and human behavior, environmental psychology, and the history and systems of psychology. Dr. McAndrew is an award-winning teacher, and his research has appeared in dozens of professional and academic journals and is regularly featured in popular media outlets such as NPR, The New York Times, the BBC, The New Yorker, The Atlantic, and NBC’s Today Show. His current areas of interest include aggression, gossip, creepiness, and the naming of children. He writes a blog for Psychology Today Magazine called Out of the Ooze: Navigating the 21st Century with a Stone-Age Mind. He discusses the power of gossip and the psychology of creepiness later in the podcast. Dr. McAndrew was a wrestler in high school and college and most of his students and academic colleagues are unaware that he masqueraded as a college wrestling coach for 30 years (12 years as head coach). At about 43 minutes into our discussion, we discuss his experience of an elephant attacking his car. Connect with Dr. Frank McAndrew: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedinConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/824243580 Interests and Specializations Dr. Frank McAndrew is an experimental and evolutionary social psychologist who studies gossip, aggression, creepiness, and the naming of children. He is also interested in environmental psychology which studies the relationship between people and their environment (both natural and man-made). He is the longest-serving psychology professor in the history of Knox College. Education Bachelor of Science (BS), Psychology (1974); Kings College, Wilkes-Barre, PA.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Experimental Psychology (1981); University of Maine, Orono, ME. (Also did graduate work in Zoology) Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Frank McAndrew: Knox CollegeDr. Frank McAndrew: Psychology TodayDr. Frank McAndrew: WikipediaDr. Frank McAndrew: Google Scholar Podcast Transcript oo00:14 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Frank McAndrew to the show. Dr. McAndrew is a renowned social psychologist, speaker, and author. He is a Cornelia H. Dudley Professor of Psychology at Knox College in Galesburg, IL. His interests are broad and include evolutionary social psychology, environmental psychology, and the psychology of gossip. More recently, he has been studying creepiness and horror. Dr. McAndrew has published numerous scholarly articles and book chapters on these and other topics and is a sought-after speaker at conferences and events. Today, we will learn more about his academic and professional journey, learn more about the power of gossip, and the psychology of creepiness. Dr. McAndrew, welcome to our podcast. 01:16 FrankThank you, Brad. Very happy to be here. 01:19 BradleyWell, I appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedule to talk to us about your journey and talk about these two very interesting topics as well. But if you've seen the podcast, we like going through some of your history of your academic and professional career first. So first of all, can you remember when you first became interested in psychology? 01:38 FrankActually, I can very clearly. When I started college, I was not at all interested in psychology because, like many people, I didn't really know what it was about. I thought it was about crazy people in therapy and I knew I had zero interest in that. I had some vague notion I wanted to be some kind of a scientist, probably a biologist. So, when I started college, I started out being a biology major and doing all the things you would do for that. And I stumbled into an introductory psych class the 2nd semester of my freshman year. Probably just because it happened to fit my schedule and I needed to find a course. And it just, wow, I had no idea that there was this discipline that did all this cool stuff. It was a science. But it was doing a lot of the things that I thought biologists did, running rats through mazes and seeing how the brain works. And so, I got hooked in introduction to psychology. 02:39 BradleyWell, you're not alone, a lot of our guests do talk about that one course that actually changed direction for them, and I see that you received your bachelor's degree from King's College in Psychology. At what point did you know you wanted to focus on psychology as an undergraduate? 02:55 FrankWell, I think right after I took introduction to psychology, I continued to take biology classes and I actually took an awful lot of English literature courses just because I liked reading the plays and novels and things you had to read for those courses, they were more interesting than textbooks. So, I got a good broad liberal arts kind of education, but psychology was the thing that I really loved the most. 03:19 BradleyHow did you end up at the University of Maine for your doctorate in experimental psychology? 03:25 FrankI'm I guess my personal story is a little embarrassing. I was so naive about things and you, in my own defense, you need to remember the world was very different then, there was no Internet. This was also before the time when colleges and universities were flooding your mailbox with brochures and come ons. So, the whole process of finding a college or a Graduate School was very mysterious. You couldn't just go online and, you know, read websites. And, as a working-class kid, I really didn't understand about PhD, I didn't really even know what a PhD was to tell you the truth. I decided to go to grad school for the simple reason that I really loved being a student. And I'd found out that if you went for a PhD, people paid you to go. So, I was going to get paid for continuing to do something that I like to do. But I was totally naive about prestige in schools. A PhD is a PhD, right, whether it's from Harvard or the University of Maine, it doesn't matter. I I honestly just didn't know anything about that and so I had this vague sense I maybe wanted to live in New England, so I applied to several schools there and a number of other schools. And I was looking for schools that didn't have application fees.

48: Deborah Offner, PhD – Clinical Psychologist, Adolescent Development Expert, and Author Shares Insightful Advice and Discusses Her Book Educators as First Responders Apr 07, 2023

Dr. Deborah Offner grew up in the Boston area and after attending Wesleyan University in Middletown, CT for her Bachelor of Arts in Psychology and Sociology, she applied to a number of PhD programs in clinical psychology and was accepted to Boston University. She really wanted to return home and live in Boston and BU had what was called the “scientist practitioner model” where you learned how to do research and use statistical methods but also spent a significant amount of time in clinical training sites where you applied what you have learned and gained important clinical experience. When Dr. Offner started college, she was drawn to the social sciences and she loved sociology. In fact, she thought she might become a sociology professor but after breaking up with her college boyfriend and seeing a therapist, she discovered her love for psychology as “it’s more applied than sociology.” Therefore, she changed her major to psychology and sociology and eventually applied to graduate schools in clinical psychology. Before attending graduate school, Dr. Offner worked as a research assistant at a teaching hospital in the psychiatry department. She shares that she didn’t apply to graduate school right out of college because if you were going to get a PhD in psychology, especially clinical psychology, “they want you to have some work experience.” Though there was a professional school in the Boston area that had a PsyD program, she wanted a PhD because she wanted to have the option of becoming a professor in a psychology department. Dr. Offner served as a consulting psychologist, teacher, and Dean of Students at the Commonwealth School, a co-educational college preparatory school in Boston. Dr. Offner knew that she wanted to start her own private practice early in her academic and professional career. She states, “I think I always thought I would have a practice. I never anticipated it would be my full-time job or my primary occupation, and it really never has been. So I always knew I wanted to do it because I like the luxury and freedom of time to sit with people and have a long conversation and get to know them.” While discussing her practice, she provides a recommendation to anyone who is looking to start their own private practice…”don’t quit your day job.” You want to build up your practice gradually. When discussing how she decided on pursuing clinical psychology instead of the many other branches of psychology, she states “I decided on it because it had a practical applied aspect to it and a profession associated with it.” She also loves social psychology and developmental psychology so being a psychologist allows you to practice both of these areas of psychology. She also shares “I wanted flexibility and work life balance. There’s an income aspect too. If you can have a private practice, which I always have, you can augment whatever else you’re doing, and I really like that idea.” In addition to her private practice, Dr. Offner also serves as a consulting psychologist at Beacon Academy in Boston, which is “a 14-month program between eighth and ninth grade that prepares students from communities with limited resources for entry into independent day and boarding high schools.” Dr. Offner and I discuss her recently released book, Educators as First Responders: A Teacher’s Guide to Adolescent Development and Mental Health, Grades 6-12 (Routledge, December 29, 2022). While she was working at a private high school in Boston for 14 years, she learned that kids will generally go to their favorite teacher if they have a problem or an issue, rather than talking with a parent or going to a school psychologist or school counselor. She states, “a teacher will notice when a kid is struggling because the teacher is the one who sees them every day and can tell if something is changing.” Dr. Offner says that she “wrote the book really for all teachers at the middle and high school level who are de facto, you know, social workers or therapists without necessarily having any training in those areas.” Dr. Offner says that if you are interested in the field of psychology, you shouldn’t judge the field based on your experience with an introduction to psychology class. She never liked taking it and never liked teaching it because “the problem with intro psych at most colleges and universities is that it has to go over like 10 to 12 different topics, usually textbook driven most, of which, are pretty distinct, not necessarily super related to each other or integrated with each other, and you might only be interested in one or two of them.” She suggests that you give the electives, upper-level classes a chance as these are “where you can learn about the actual fields” and help determine which areas interest you the most. Dr. Offner also offers advice on living in a big city for graduate school just shy of 38 minutes into the podcast. Throughout this podcast, Dr. Offner provides insightful and practical advice to students interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology, especially in clinical psychology. She states, “if you want to go to a funded program and get a degree that positions you for, you know, an academic appointment of some kind, you really need to get a lot of research experience beforehand even to apply. You want to be getting your name on papers, you can start doing that in college.” She also emphasizes the importance of knowing which programs you are applying to and the faculty members in the program. She suggests “you want to hone your interest in a really specific way so that you can match with faculty mentors” and “you want to research the programs before you apply to see who might want to be basically hiring you to work in their lab. That’s the way to get funding and that’s the way to get a PhD.” Connect with Dr. Deborah Offner: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedinConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/808545739 Interests and Specializations Dr. Deborah Offner specializes, and has expertise, in adolescent development, student mental health, student affairs, and school life. She primarily works with middle school, high school, and college students and their families. She has over 25 years of experience in mental health, K-12, and higher education where she specializes in treating adolescents and young adults. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Psychology & Sociology; Wesleyan University, Middletown, CT.Master of Science (MS), Clinical Psychology; Boston University, Boston, MA.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Clinical Psychology; Boston University, Boston, MA. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Deborah Offner: Psychology TodayDr. Deborah Offner Book at Amazon: Educators as First Responders Podcast Transcript 00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Deborah Offner to the show. Dr. Offner is a clinical psychologist, student mental health expert, consultant and author with over 25 years of experience in the mental health field. She currently has an active clinical and consulting practice where she specializes in treating adolescents and young adults. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, learn more about her practice, her involvement with Beacon Academy, and learn more about her more recently released book Educators as First Responders as well as hear her advice for those interested in the field of psychology. Dr. Offner, welcome to our podcast. 01:12 DeborahThanks so much. I appreciate you having me. 01:14 BradleyWell, I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to actually talk to us and a little bit more about your journey. First off, though, I'm always interested in what first sparked your interest in psychology. 01:27 DeborahYeah, that's a great question. So, when I started college, I was basically clueless, and I was really drawn to social sciences. I took my first sociology class and I'd never really heard of sociology before, and I loved it. I loved thinking about, you know, how society functions and what the different factors are and what makes people do what they do. And I loved it. And then I wasn't sure what I wanted to do with it when I declared a major, I thought I might become a sociology professor, but I wasn't sure. And then you know, I had an experience where in college I had a boyfriend. It was a great relationship. But you know, we did break up, as often happens in those situations. And I went to a therapist because I was, you know, quite sad. And it was so incredibly helpful to me, even in a relatively short period of time that I thought this is cool. Like I would like to be able to help people and you know, in high school my friends used to like talk to me and, you know, confide in me. And I thought it's more applied than sociology. And whether I'm a professor or not, I'll always have something I can do, you know, to be a therapist, be in practice. And so, I ended up switching to a joint major in Psych and Sociology and applied to grad school. I mean, that's the short. The short story. And I, you know, I've never regretted it. It's awesome. 02:43 BradleyWell, it sounds like it. And as you just mentioned, you did receive your bachelor's degree from Wesleyan University in both psychology and sociology. At what point during your undergrad career did you know that you wanted to attend graduate? 02:56 DeborahI would say I decided when I was a junior, so I really had not known before that what I wanted to do. I thought about public health. I thought about law school and then, you know, I learned that to be a therapist,

47: Kristin Neff, PhD – Self-Compassion Pioneer and Co-Founder of the Center for Mindful Self-Compassion Shares her Journey and How to Turn Your Passion Into a Career Mar 29, 2023

Dr. Kristin Neff is a pioneer in the study of self-compassion and has been recognized as one of the world’s most influential research psychologists. She is the first to operationally define and measure the construct of self-compassion almost twenty years ago. As an undergraduate student at UCLA, Dr. Neff was a communications major but near the end of her undergraduate career she studied cultural anthropology and became fascinated with the issue of cultural relativism versus universalism. She took many different courses and fell in love with psychological anthropology. She continued her education by earning her master's and doctorate in educational psychology (human development) from UC-Berkeley. During the last year of graduate school, Dr. Neff became interested in Buddhism and has been practicing meditation in the Insight Meditation tradition ever since. While doing her post-doctoral work, she decided to conduct research on self-compassion – a central construct in Buddhist psychology – as it had not yet been examined empirically. In this podcast, Dr. Neff shares her academic and professional journey highlighting when she became interested in self-compassion and discusses how she turned her passion into a career helping people improve their mental and physical well-being. She also discusses how she and her colleague, Dr. Chris Germer, co-founded the Center for Mindful Self-Compassion (CMSC) and developed an empirically supported training program called Mindful Self-Compassion, an eight-week program which is taught by thousands of teachers worldwide. Dr. Neff is an accomplished author and she briefly discusses her enormously popular first book, Self-Compassion, which offers expert advice on how to limit self-criticism and offset its negative effects. This extraordinary book provides exercises and action plans for dealing with many different types of emotional struggles each and every one of us faces on a daily basis. Dr. Neff also discusses her most recent book Fierce Self-Compassion: How Women Can Harness Kindness to Speak Up, Claim Their Power, and Thrive which expands on her previous work and research by exploring new ideas that further develop and broaden our notion of self-kindness and its capacity to transform our lives. Fierce Self-Compassion shows women how to balance tender self-acceptance with fierce action to claim their power and change the world. As a pioneer in the study of self-compassion, Dr. Neff does a lot of media interviews and has a TED talk where she talks about the difference between self-esteem and self-compassion. She states, “I have a TED talk where I joke that I’m a self-compassion evangelist, you know, kind of my goal is to spread the good word that there is a different way to relate to yourself that actually makes a dramatic difference in your ability to cope with difficulty and your happiness and well-being.” She further explains “self-compassion works. It transforms lives. It’s not like an abstract, theoretical idea. It’s something you can actually do. It’s a practice…anyone can just try it out and see immediately for themselves how it changes the way you relate to difficulty.” Dr. Neff offers advice to those interested in the field of psychology and one of the pieces of advice she offers is “the thing I love about psychology and the thing I love about what I do is the ability to help people. The ability to change lives. Ironically, you’re not going to change as many lives if you’re a researcher. I mean, I was kind of fortunate in that my research happened to be in a niche that you know, and sometimes you do find applied applications of the research that makes a big difference, but realistically, you’re more likely to be able to change lives if you are a counselor or if you are a social worker, or if you’re a teacher.” One of the unique things Dr. Neff shared with me is that she was in a documentary called “The Horse Boy” which is a film about her autistic son, Rowan, and how his condition appears to be improved when he was around horses. The film follows their journey when they took him to Mongolia and rode horses to Shaman to get healing for his autism. Connect with Dr. Kristin Neff: Twitter | Facebook | Linkedin | Youtube | InstagramConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/808457338 Interests and Specializations Dr. Kristin Neff focuses on self-compassion and has co-founded the Center for Mindful Self-Compassion. She has multiple books and workbooks and has developed training programs and courses that teach self-compassion and help others to become certified in teaching self-compassion courses. One of the main courses is an eight-week program called Mindful Self-Compassion (MSC) which she and her colleague, Dr. Chris Germer, created to teach self-compassion skills in daily life. Education Bachelor of Art (BA), Communications (1988); University of California, Los Angeles, CA.Master of Arts (MA), Educational Psychology (Human Development)(1992); University of California Berkeley, Berkeley, CA.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Educational Psychology (Human Development)(1997); University of California Berkeley, Berkeley, CA. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Kristin Neff: WikipediaDr. Kristin Neff: Google ScholarDr. Kristin Neff: AmazonDr. Kristin Neff: Psychology Today Podcast Transcript 00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Kristin Neff to the show. Dr. Neff holds a doctorate in educational psychology and is a pioneer in the study of self-compassion. In fact, she created scales to measure the construct almost 20 years ago. Dr. Neff has been recognized as one of the world's most influential research psychologist. She is a co-founder of the Nonprofit Center for Mindful Self Compassion. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, The Center for Mindful Self-Compassion, and her book Fierce Self-Compassion as well as hear her advice to those interested in the field of psychology. Dr. Neff, welcome to our podcast. 01:10 KristinHi. Hi, Bradley. Thank you so much for having me. 01:13 BradleyWell, thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule to be with us. I'm actually very excited to talk about your journey. I know a little bit about it, but I'm excited to learn a little bit more. First, though, let's start off. Tell me a little bit more about your undergraduate studies and what made you gravitate towards psychology. 01:32 KristinSo I went to UCLA as an undergraduate and I was actually a communications major, and I didn't really know what I wanted to do when I grew up, which is why it was kind of a very general major. And then my last year, my senior year, I took a, uhm, actually I guess was started in junior a 3-semester series on cultural anthropology. And I became really fascinated by the issue of cultural relativism versus universalism. And is there anything about the human experience that we can say is shared about culture? Or is it all relative to culture? And I just fell in love with this whole idea and this concept. And I realized as I ended my undergraduate degree that I wanted to head into, maybe this is your next question, but to continue in that field of study, so that's why. But, so basically, I started in as a general major which, which allowed me to take a lot of courses in different areas and I fell in love with psychological anthropology. 02:38 BradleyWell, that's a good summary and I should let everybody know you received your BA in Communications, University of California, Los Angeles. And then you stayed in California and you actually attended UC Berkeley and focused on educational psychology and human development actually for your masters and your doctorate. How and why did you decide on UC Berkeley? There are many different schools in California that you could have chosen so why did you, you know, choose Berkeley, UC Berkeley? 03:09 KristinYeah, so it's because I wanted to study with a particular advisor, which is I always tell people, especially at the doctoral level, if you want to, uhm, if you want to choose a school, you really should choose your advisor, because especially in a doctoral program, that's where you're going to be spending most of your time. And that's who's research is going to most influence your career. And there's an amazing man who's still actually teaching named Elliot Turiel, and he was one of the world's foremost researchers in moral development and, in particular, he was studying issues of relativism and universalism. There was a big debate in the time and in the field of moral development, is morality completely relative or are there some universal principles like justice or not causing harm. And he had a really sophisticated model called domain theory which he could, which in which he could say well in some areas it's universal and some areas it's cultural and in some areas it's personal. And I was just really drawn to the model. And so, I applied. I think that was actually the only program I applied to because I wasn't absolutely sure I wanted to get my graduate degree, but I thought well, if I could work with him and, you know, stay in California, then maybe it would work out. And if he could offer me a a position, a a research assistantship so I could fund my graduate studies. And he did. He accepted me as a student, and he, he just happened to be in the human development program in the Educational Psychology department. A lot of human development programs are actually housed in regular psychology,

46: Monica Vermani, C Psych, PsyD – Clinical Psychologist, Author, Mindfulness and Mental-Health Expert Shares her Journey and New Book A Deeper Wellness Mar 20, 2023

Dr. Monica Vermani was born and raised in Toronto. Her parent were immigrants from India. Her dad was the eldest of five and her mom was the youngest of five. Though the dynamics in her family were very traditional, the dynamics changed when her dad experienced a work-related injury. Her mother had to go back to school and change her path and Dr. Vermani had to become a caregiver at a young age to help with the family. She recalls growing up “in a household with more compassion, more empathy. You know, a little more suffering and you become a caregiver a little bit.” She also remembers that she started working very young and wanted to find her “own path.” She states, “I just wanted to be more independent. I wanted to learn how to be self-sufficient. I wanted to also learn, you know, how to be the best I could in every area.” Dr. Vermani is a clinical psychologist, founder of Dr. Vermani Balanced Wellbeing (private practice in Toronto) and Start Living Corporate Wellness. She has over 25 years of clinical practice experience and has become a prominent expert in the trauma, mindfulness, and mental health wellness space. In this podcast, we discuss Dr. Vermani’s academic and professional journey, some of the important people and experiences that helped shape her career path, her private practice in Toronto, her recent TEDxUofT talk, and her recently released book, A Deeper Wellness: Conquering Stress, Mood, Anxiety, and Traumas. Dr. Vermani recalls always gravitating towards volunteering and helping people. Growing up people would tell her that she should “go to school” and then do “social work or counseling or psychology stuff.” She shares that she hadn’t really thought about doing that seriously until she ended up taking some psychology and sociology courses and became very interested in those areas. She earned her Bachelor of Science degree in Psychology, Sociology & Criminology, Women’s Studies from the University of Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Dr. Vermani shares what led her to Adler School of Professional Psychology (now called Adler University) in Vancouver, BC to earn her master's degree in counseling psychology then to Adler University in Chicago, IL for her Doctor of Psychology (PsyD) in Clinical Psychology. Along the way, Dr. Vermani has earned a number of diplomas and certificates to improve her knowledge, experience, and skillset in preparation for opening her own private practice. She shares some of her experiences working in internships, working at private practices, and getting hands-on experience working with prominent clinical psychologists such as Dr. Giorgio Ilacqua who was the chief psychologist at a correctional facility for women called Vanier Centre for Women. She recalls that Dr. Ilacqua used to give her extra work and she was wondering why she was so special until one day he asked her to work with him at his private practice. She remembers him saying “Listen, you’re really bright. What about doing some private practice on the side? You sound like, you know, you’re eager to work in the field and, and learn more.” So, she did. She worked in his private practice as a psychometrist and at the Vanier Centre and eventually Dr. Ilacqua turned into her coach. She shares that he was the one who encouraged her to apply for her master’s and her doctorate to become a psychologist. She also discusses other great mentors and experiences that helped shape her career including working with Dr. Martin Katzman at the Anxiety Disorders Clinic and with whom she built the START Clinic which focuses on Stress, Trauma, Anxiety, Rehabilitation, and Treatment (START). The START Clinic specializes in “outpatient assessment and treatment services for people with mood & anxiety disorders.” She also worked with Dr. Nussbaum who taught her about neuropsychology and with Dr. Richard Brown and Dr. Pat Gerbarg who taught her a Breath~Body~Mind Program. She states, “so, as I grew, my mentors, my colleagues, my, you know, students, friends shaped me to be who I am today, a little bit more than just my biological background.” Throughout the podcast discussion, Dr. Vermani shares how her path unfolded. As additional opportunities presented themselves, Dr. Vermani’s path seemed to appear before her. For example, we discuss her recently released book A Deeper Wellness: Conquering Stress, Mood, Anxiety, and Traumas and why she wrote it. While promoting her book someone asked her if she thought about doing a TED talk so she ended up adding it to her bucket list, applied for it, and went through the lengthy, tedious process and eventually returned to her alma mater (University of Toronto) where she was on the TEDx stage of UofT. She states “it felt wonderful to be there” and “I wanted to pick a topic that was inspiring but also gave actionable steps that when you listen to it, you walk away knowing something you can do right away instead of just being inspired.” Her topic “Think About It” is “about the power of our thoughts” where she discusses “how to reframe, reconceptualize, challenge and be a better version of you, which means pause and reflect.” Dr. Vermani offers copious amounts of advice during our podcast interview. One piece of advice she offered for those interested in the field of psychology is “trial and error.” She states, “The best thing that’s worked for me to be who I am today is trying things and don’t let a thought hold you back. Just because you don’t think you’re capable doesn’t mean you’re not.” Near the end of our discussion, her final advice includes “I think the biggest thing I’m going to say is all you people who are embarking on psychology, if it’s a passion, you know, put two feet forward. I find once you put a step forward in any path, it will materialize and manifest. The hardest part is making a decision to go on a path. Once you start making that decision, things unfold. People show up. Trust the process and sometimes get out of the way.” Connect with Dr. Monica Vermani: Twitter | Facebook | Linkedin | Youtube | InstagramConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/805336349 Interests and Specializations Dr. Monica Vermani specializes in providing treatment to individuals and couples using a multi-faceted treatment approach using a variety of treatments and techniques including Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), Psychotherapy, Eye Movement Desensitization Reprocessing (EMDR), and Breath~Body~Mind practices as well as Mindfulness Meditation, Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction (MBSR) and Mindfulness-Based Cognitive Therapy (MBCT). Education Honours Bachelor of Science (BSc), Psychology, Sociology & Criminology, Women’s Studies (1997); University of Toronto, Toronto, ON.Master of Arts (MA), Counseling Psychology (2001); Adler University, Vancouver, BC.Doctor of Psychology (PsyD), Clinical Psychology (2007); Adler University, Chicago, IL. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Monica Vermani at Psychology TodayA Deeper Wellness: Conquering Stress, Mood, Anxiety and Traumas (Book at Amazon) Podcast Transcript 00:14 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology, I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Monica Vermani to the show. Dr. Vermani is a clinical psychologist, author, and founder of Dr. Vermani Balanced Wellbeing, which is a private practice in Toronto, and Start Living Corporate Wellness. She has over 25 years of clinical practical experience, holds a doctorate degree in clinical psychology, and is a registered member of the College of Psychologists of Ontario. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, her recent TEDxUofT talk and her book, A Deeper Wellness: Conquering Stress, Mood, Anxiety and Traumas. Dr. Vermani, welcome to our podcast. 01:14 MonicaThank you Brad, for having me. 01:16 BradleyWell, I am looking forward to talking to you further. One of the things that I was telling you before we started recording is just learning more about my guests and you have quite the journey. So, to start us off, tell us about your path and how you got into psychology. 01:31 MonicaSo, I think sometimes you know life just kind of brings you certain experiences that shape you to be who you are and I was born in a family unit that, you know, I had a father that wasn't well from a work injury. And I became a caregiver, I think, just from the start. And so, you grow up in a household with more compassion, more empathy. You know, a little more suffering and you become a caregiver a little bit. And so, I've always gravitated towards volunteering and helping people if I can and, and, and doing a little volunteer projects. And along the path I think I had the right friends and mentors. I started working very young in department stores, and I remember some of the colleagues that work with me saying, yeah, you should go into school and, and do that a social work or counseling or psychology stuff, and I never really thought of it seriously. I was raised with that idea of like getting a nice job for self-sufficiency, right? You want to make a stable job so that you don't have financial problems and things like this. And I kind of, as I grew, I was kind of led to going to university and once I got in, I did a science degree at UofT, so I started with a science program and doing that honors of science program, it was a four-year program. I ended up taking psychology and sociology as the electives and got very interested and did very well in them. So, I think sometimes when you're doing well, you kind of feel aligned to take more courses there and you start, you know, shaping your path. So, as I finished the science classes for that degree,

45: Laura Petracek, PhD, LCSW – Clinical Psychologist and Addiction Specialist Shares her Journey and New Book The DBT Workbook for Alcohol and Drug Addiction Mar 14, 2023

Dr. Laura Petracek is a clinical psychologist, addiction specialist, certified Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) therapist, author, and speaker with over 30 years of experience in psychotherapy, 26 of which have been spent as a practicing clinical psychologist in California. In this podcast, Dr. Petracek recalls her academic and professional journey, discusses the circumstances leading up to her opening her own private practice, then provides some highlights and background regarding her new book The DBT Workbook for Alcohol and Drug Addiction. When discussing how she ended up in the clinical psychology field of psychology, she states, “Sometimes I don’t know if I chose the field or if it chose me.” She shares that at the age of 17, she went into drug and alcohol rehab and through that experience, she knew that she wanted to be a counselor then a therapist. So, after getting out of rehab, she immediately started her undergraduate work. She received her associates in chemical dependency counseling at Metropolitan Community College (now called Metropolitan State). Dr. Petracek then received her bachelor's degree in psychology from Hamline University in St. Paul, MN. She received her Master of Social Work (MSW) in Ethnic, Cultural Minority, Gender, and Group Studies from Wurzweiler School of Social Work in New York, NY. She then attended the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS) in San Francisco, CA for her PhD in Clinical Psychology. She and her cohorts at CIIS were the last group to receive a PhD in clinical psychology as the program is now a PsyD program. We discussed the differences between a PhD and a PsyD and why she chose the PhD route. Although Dr. Petracek could have received a doctorate in social work, she admits that was not the area she wanted to be in as she knew she wanted to eventually go into private practice. Before she did this, though, she gained a tremendous amount of experience as a clinical director of New Leaf Services, Associate Professor at National University, and psychologist with the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation at San Quentin, CA. She has had her own private practice in the San Francisco Bay area for over 26 years. Dr. Petracek discusses her private practice and the challenges of building a private practice in a new area. She offers advice to those who are interested in running their own business and explains what she did regarding how to handle the accounting, marketing, and other aspects of owning your own private practice. For example, she recommends joining a group practice at the very beginning of your career as this offers you many benefits (e.g., learn more about running a business, sharing ideas through consultation work, help you understand how to determine how many clients to take on, build your client list, etc.). She also describes her ideal therapist. When describing her ideal therapist, she states, “someone who is knowledgeable in different theories of psychology and psychotherapy…someone who is not afraid to call me on my BS if it comes up” and someone who “offers compassion, but is challenging” and “supportive.” Dr. Petracek shares that she has been in therapy herself and states “my last therapist, he helped me tremendously through a challenging time when my daughter, only daughter, had left home for college and it was just a really rough time.” As a result, she went into a six-month DBT program. She explains that DBT is usually a six-month program but sometimes it is a six-month to a year program. Dr. Petracek discusses evidence-based therapies such as DBT, which is an extension of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT). The experience she gained going through the DBT program herself, getting certified as a DBT therapist, and her years of experience helping treat those with addictions all acted as the impetus and spark which led Dr. Petracek to combine the strategies and tools available in DBT and the 12-step program associated with Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) in her new book The DBT Workbook for Alcohol and Drug Addiction: Skills and Strategies for Emotional Regulation, Recovery and Relapse Prevention (Jessica Kingsley Publishers, Feb. 21, 2023). I read a summary of the book stating, “DBT is a type of talking therapy tailored to those who feel emotions very intensely. Exploring skills and strategies drawn from DBT that correspond with each of the 12 steps, this book provides a new road map to reduce emotional distress symptoms and support your sobriety and mental health.” During our discussion, Dr. Petracek shared that DBT has about 200 skills and AA has about 20 skills. The AA 12-step program was devised around 80 years ago and she states, “we have a lot more tools now and strategies to help people with alcohol or substance use issues. And so, I married both strategies in this workbook to give people in recovery additional tools.” Near the end of our discussion, we discuss “Dry January” and provide some statistics regarding the growth in popularity over the years. Dr. Petracek shares what she loves about her job and something unique about herself. She is also a rap psychologist. To learn more about this and hear a few lines, tune in to the discussion around the 48-minute mark. Connect with Dr. Laura Petracek: Twitter | Facebook | Linkedin | Instagram | Website ContactConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/804715499 Interests and Specializations Dr. Laura Petracek specializes in utilizing evidence-based therapies, such as Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT), to help people struggling with alcohol and substance use, anger management, and mood disorders. She also focuses on helping students and adolescents and those with ADHD, Autism Spectrum Disorders, and other learning disabilities. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Sociology (1979); Hamline University, St. Paul, MN.Master of Social Work (MSW), Ethnic, Cultural Minority, Gender, and Group Studies (1986); Wurzweiler School of Social Work, New York, NY.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Clinical Psychology (1996); California Institute of Integral Studies, San Francisco, CA. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Laura Petracek @ Psychology TodayDr. Laura Petracek @ Amazon Podcast Transcript 00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Laura Petracek to the show. Dr. Petracek is a clinical psychologist, addiction specialist, author and speaker with over 30 years of experience in psychotherapy, 26 of which have been spent as a practicing clinical psychologist in California. She is also certified, she is also a certified Dialectical Behavior Therapy, or DBT, therapist. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, learn more about DBT and hear a little bit more about her more recently released book, The DBT Workbook for Alcohol and Drug Addiction: Skills and Strategies for Emotional Regulation, Recovery, and Relapse Prevention, and hopefully we'll hear a little bit more advice for those interested in the field of psychology. Dr. Petracek, welcome to our podcast. 01:26 LauraHi, Bradley. Thank you. Thank you for having me. 01:29 BradleyWell, I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to be with us today. I'm excited to learn a little bit more about your journey. First of all, though, just tell us a little bit more about your undergraduate studies and when you first took an interest in psychology. 01:46 LauraSo that's interesting. When you mentioned your daughter is going to school of Minnesota because that's where I did my undergraduate work. 01:52 BradleyOK. 01:55 LauraI got my associates in chemical dependency counseling at Metropolitan. Well, it's called Community College then. Now it's, I think, Metropolitan State. And then I got my bachelor's degree in psychology at Hamline University in Saint Paul. But what steered me? Sometimes I don't know if I chose the field or if it chose me. So, I at the age of 17 went into a drug and alcohol rehab and through that experience I thought this is it, I want to be a counselor. And then a therapist. So. That was the route I took, professionally, after I got out of rehab and started my undergraduate degree. 02:40 BradleyAnd so at what point did you know that you wanted to go on for your master's degree? And in this case, your master's degree is in social work. 02:49 LauraRight. Well, sometimes I kind of joke in the 12 step meetings that after I got clean and sober, school became my drug of choice. So, I love school. I mean, if I could get two PhD's or three, I probably would have if I didn't midstream ah start having a family and different priorities took over, but I love school. I've always loved school. I think school saved me growing up, saving grace, and luckily I happened to be good at it so. Yeah, that I, I knew that I wanted to keep going forward. 03:29 BradleyWell, with that in mind, I know that I'll share my screen here and I believe you attended. Am I? Am I gonna? I'm probably gonna butcher this name, but Wurzweiler school of social work. Is that correct? 03:42 LauraYes, this is correct. It's Wurzweiler School of Social Work. So, I worked in the field as an alcoholism counselor for probably 8 years, and I realized that if I wanted to go further, I would need to get a master's degree going further, meaning either open a practice or getting different jobs in the field of psychology or of social work. And this particular program I chose for two reasons. One, well the main reason was that they had an evening and weekend program,

44: Donna Marks, EdD – Psychotherapist & Addictions Counselor in Palm Beach, Florida Discusses her New Book The Healing Moment Feb 28, 2023

While working on her master’s and doctorate degrees at Nova Southeastern University, Dr. Donna Marks never thought that she would become a renowned licensed psychotherapist and addictions counselor in Palm Beach, Florida. Additionally, if someone told her while she was in graduate school that she would write multiple books and receive over 25 awards for one of those books, she would have thought you must be joking. In this podcast, Dr. Marks shares her personal and professional journey in the field of psychology and discusses the significant events and people that led her to open her own private practice, develop a chemical dependency training program, which eventually turned into a four-year degree, and receive the Florida Governor’s Council Award. Dr. Marks has been a psychotherapist, addictions counselor, and teacher of A Course in Miracles for over 30 years. She is a certified gestalt therapist, psychoanalyst, hypnotist, and sex therapist. During our discussion, she explains what gravitated her towards psychology and how she naturally felt like the resident therapist for her family and friends. Although she wasn’t planning on attending graduate school, Dr. Marks recalls the reasons and circumstances that led her to receiving her MA in Counseling Psychology and her EdD in Adult Education at Nova Southeastern University in Fort Lauderdale, FL. Throughout this podcast, Dr. Marks shares practical and thoughtful advice to those interested in the field of psychology. For example, she states “If I had it to do over, I would have gotten my MSW in Clinical Social Work” because “a lot of the Medicare and Medicaid insurance policies will pay clinical social workers. And at the time they would, they would not pay licensed mental health counselors.” She summarizes by stating “But if someone were going to start now, I would encourage them to get that MSW licensure, licensed clinical social worker for that. Because when you’re first starting, you want to be able to serve as many people as you can, and for you to get reimbursed and for your patients to get reimbursed.” Dr. Marks shares that she became certified as a sex therapist because the state of Florida passed a law that you couldn’t discuss sex in therapy without being certified as a sex therapist. She also mentions that if you are going to counsel people with additions, there are a lot of people with sex addictions so that is another reason why you should consider getting the sex therapist certification. She also discusses the benefits of getting training in, and becoming skilled at, gestalt therapy and psychoanalysis. Dr. Marks shares her experience with The Southeast of Florida Institute for Psychoanalysis and Psychotherapy as she received two certifications (one in psychoanalytic psychotherapy and one in psychoanalysis). Dr. Marks discusses the people who significantly impacted her and her academic and professional career. She also discusses how she developed a chemical dependency training program at Balm Beach Community College “where any therapist, nurse, or anyone that had these types of licenses, clinical social workers, family therapists could go and take any one of the courses that were offered and get continuing education credits.” This training program has grown into a four-year degree in addiction at Palm Beach State College and she received the Florida Governor’s Council Award for developing this program. During our discussion, Dr. Marks discusses her books Learn Grow Forgive – A Path to Spiritual Success and Exit the Maze: One Addiction, One Cause, One Solution (revised). While discussing addiction, she states, “there has been a shift recently in psychology and in treatment to not call it addiction anymore. They’re calling it brain disorder, substance use disorder, different behavior disorders. And I think that’s a travesty because that model says that I’m born this way.” She explains why she doesn’t believe people are born with an “addiction” gene. Instead, she states, “I believe there’s one addiction and I call it that ‘invisible hole.’ That feeling that something’s missing. And I’m always searching for that next thing.” She further states that we need to teach people that “addiction is an attachment disorder. It’s an attachment to deadly behavior instead of a loving behavior.” Therefore, she works with people to teach them how to replace that feeling they get, “which feels like love, but it’s not, with actual acts of self-love.” Dr. Marks then discusses her next book, The Healing Moment: Seven Paths to Turn Messes into Miracles of Love, which will be released April 11, 2023. Near the end of our discussion, when asked for any final advice for those interested in the field of psychology, Dr. Marks states, “follow your dream.” She explains that you shouldn’t do something for the money. Rather, “the money will come if you’re supposed to be doing it. If you’re not, if you’re not supposed to be doing it, then do something else in psychology instead of therapy.” She suggests that you can teach, you can write, you can work in clinics, you can work in addictions, or you can specialize in certain areas. What Dr. Marks loves most about her job is helping those who are “wounded or in a lot of pain” or “who has addictions” and helping them overcome these and achieve happiness, joy, and fulfillment. She states, “it is the most gratifying thing in the world.” Connect with Dr. Donna Marks: Twitter | Facebook | Linkedin | Youtube | Instagram | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/802826254 Interests and Specializations Dr. Donna Marks has been a licensed psychotherapist and addictions counselor in Palm Beach, Florida for over 30 years. She specializes in treating addictions and is also a certified gestalt therapist, psychoanalyst, hypnotist, sex therapist, and teaches A Course in Miracles. She has authored two books, Learn Grow Forgive – A Path to Spiritual Success and Exit the Maze: One Addiction, One Cause, One Solution (revised) which has received over 25 awards. Her next book, The Healing Moment: Seven Paths to Turn Messes into Miracles of Love will be released April 11, 2023. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Psychology (1977); Florida Atlantic University – Boca Raton, FL.Master of Arts (MA), Counseling Psychology (1979); Nova Southeastern University, Fort Lauderdale, FL.Doctor of Education (EdD), Adult Education (1989); Nova Southeastern University, Fort Lauderdale, FL. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Donna Marks at Simon and SchusterDr. Donna Marks at Amazon Podcast Transcript 00:14 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Donna Marks to the show. Dr. Marks has been a licensed psychotherapist and addictions counselor for over 30 years. She is certified in addiction, Gestalt therapy, hypnosis, sex therapy, and psychoanalysis. And she currently has a concierge psychotherapy practice in Palm Beach, FL. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, learn more about her career and her forthcoming book, The Healing Moment: 7 Paths to Turn Messes into Miracles of Love, and hear her advice for those interested in the field of psychology. Dr. Marks, welcome to our podcast. 01:11 DonnaThank you for having me. It's a delight. 01:14 BradleyWell, I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to talk with us. I'm excited to learn a little bit more about your journey. To start off, tell me a little bit more about your undergraduate studies and what really made you gravitate towards psychology. 01:28 DonnaWell, that's a, that's a big question. I think I was always gravitating towards psychology. I was in a very painful environment growing up, but it did give me a sensitivity to other people's pain and feelings. So, by the time I was in junior high, I was like the resident therapist for my family even though I was an only child, so that leaves my parents and for my friends. I got married when I was 16 and dropped out of school, wound up going to night school to get my high school diploma. I had a baby and I was divorced by the time I was 18, and I, as I was waiting on tables at 6:00 o'clock in the morning, I'm not a morning person and having you know, a baby to take care of without much support, there was some, uhm, I said, you know, I got to get my act together. I slept through high school, I was depressed, and so I was afraid I wouldn't be able to go to college. But I did finish my high school diploma by, by going to school at night at the time. Now they just have the GED, but at the time you could take the classes. And so, I got my high school diploma and took some typing and business courses so that I could move into a an easier line of work, not a more lucrative line of work, but an easier line of work. And then I took the big risk and went and talked to a counselor at the local Community College. It was always my dream to go to college. Not necessarily a local Community College, I had bigger dreams than that, but I had run those with my decisions, which, you know, I don't regret now. But at the time I did not have someone to really guide me along. That's why I'm really honored to be on your show because I know there's going to be people listening that can relate to some of this. There was a part of me that said, you know, you can do better. There was always a part of me that my spiritual part that said you can, you can do what you want. So, I uhm I remember going into the advisors office after taking the SAT's and being told, you know, your grade point average was just average in school and your scores are so low you,

43: Ben Bernstein, PhD – Performance Psychologist & Coach Shares His Journey, Insight, and Career Advice to Psychology Graduate Students Feb 20, 2023

If you want to get to know Dr. Ben Bernstein, you need to look at his history growing up as a young child in New York City. Dr. Bernstein’s father was a very well-respected clinical psychologist and his mother directed plays for the Parent Teacher Association (PTA). At 9 years old, Dr. Bernstein was cast as a child psychologist in one of the original plays his mother directed. Dr. Bernstein was also a prodigious piano player. He loved music and immersed himself in Mozart, Beethoven, and Bartok yet when he performed in competitions and recitals, his hands and knees shook so playing the piano became a nightmare. During our discussion, Dr. Bernstein shares these and other experiences that led him to become a performance psychologist and earned him the title “Stress Doctor.” In this podcast, Dr. Ben Bernstein, known as “Dr. B,” shares his academic, professional, and personal journey in hopes that it helps anyone interested in the field of psychology. Dr. B attended Bowdoin College in Brunswick, MA where he studied English literature and sociology and graduated with honors. He shares a story of how he got involved in new educational developments that were happening in England and how he was invited to teach and run a research project at the University of Toronto, Ontario, Canada where he received his MEd and PhD in Applied Psychology. An educator for the last 50 years, Dr. B has taught at every level of the educational system. Originally trained in London, in the progressive British infant schools, he received major grants from the American and Canadian governments for his work. Dr. B recognized early on that he was a “natural psychologist” in terms of listening, observing, and feeling compassion for people. He shares the events leading to opening his own private practice and eventually realized “I wasn’t suited really to sitting and listening to people all day” so he found a supervisor and mentor to help figure out why. He states, “I went to see her and in pretty short order, she said to me she said, ‘well, the reason you’re so unhappy is because you’re acting like you think a psychologist should act, and it’s not you.’” Dr. B shares that he is talkative and likes to be very engaged and interactive with his clients. He states, “And you know that style of therapy, although it has changed certainly over 40-45 years, was not really in vogue at the time.” This experience along with a few other significant experiences that Dr. B shares during our discussion eventually led him to discover that he loved performance coaching and why not combine it with his education and experience as a psychologist to become a performance psychologist. Before doing this, however, Dr. B realized that he wasn’t fulfilling something for himself and that was his engagement with music. Therefore, the year he and his wife, Suk Wah, got married, they moved back to California and he got into a graduate program in music composition at Mills College in Oakland, CA where he received his MA in Music Composition. Though he already had two licenses (one in Connecticut and the other in New York), in order to keep his psychology work going, he had to apply for licensure in California. He states, “California had its own particular requirement after EPPP, after your 3000 hours of postdoctoral experience, to have an oral exam. And so, I had to take the oral exam and I joined a study group where people practice giving answers. And I came to find out that the pass rate for first time takers of this oral exam, the penultimate requirement for licensure in California, the pass rate was 18%. So this was astounding to me because in that group, people were answering questions, very adept clinicians, very sensitive, very complete. So, what was happening that they would cross the threshold and they would fall apart?” He was able to coach all of the people in the study group and everyone passed so this became his whole niche, working with people who take tests and underperform on tests. Dr. B states, “all of my work is based on the science of how stress affects human performance. That’s why people call me the ‘Stress Doctor.’” He further explains “stress is really caused; your experience of stress is caused by your reaction to those things. And simply put, stress is a function of disconnection.” He has authored multiple books including “Test Success” in 2009, “A Teen’s Guide to Success” in 2014, “Stressed Out! for Parents” in 2015, and “Crush Your Test Anxiety” in 2018 which is #1 in its category on Amazon. He also has multiple Masterclasses available on his website including one to help prepare those studying for their Examination for Professional Practice in Psychology (EPPP). The course is called “Crush The EPPP” and he explains that he developed the course “because I’ve been working with many candidates over 30 plus years with the EPPP who have trouble passing it as many as seven or eight times and this is a very directed course to people who are taking the EPPP.” Dr. B provides very practical advice to those interested in the field of psychology. One of the thoughtful and reflective bits of advice he shares in our discussion is “I think if you’re going to choose this field, you really have to be interested in people and in your own growth in working with them.” For those deciding on what to do for your dissertation, he says, “please consider doing something that’s meaningful to you that has legs, that really touches you emotionally and mentally, you know, intellectually and socially, because this is something that you really are setting yourself up for a career that will have meaning.” Dr. Bernstein is also working on another book called “The Well-Trained Husband” which was born out of his experience as a husband for over 30 years. Dr. B describes it as “a how to manual for men who want to be better husbands.” So, if you, or your wife, would like (you) to become a better husband, look for this book in the next 1-2 years or simply reach out to Dr. B to find out more. Connect with Dr. Ben Bernstein: Twitter | Facebook | Linkedin | Youtube | Instagram | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/800044744 Interests and Specializations Dr. Ben Bernstein has been a Performance Psychologist for over 44 years. He is a licensed clinical psychologist and an educator, trainer, and speaker who specializes in human performance enhancement. As a performance coach he has worked with Academy Award, Tony Award, and Pulitzer Prize winners as well as CEOs, business owners, athletes, dentists, attorneys, physicians, parents, opera singers, and actors. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), English/Sociology (1969); Bowdoin College, Brunswick, MA.Master of Education (MEd), Applied Psychology (1977); University of Toronto, Ontario, Canada.Master of Arts (MA), Music Composition (1995); Mills College, Oakland, CA.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Applied Psychology (1979); University of Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Ben Bernstein: Psychology TodayCrush Your Text Anxiety: AmazonCrush Your Text Anxiety: Online Course Podcast Transcript 00:00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Ben Bernstein, otherwise known as “Dr. B”, to the show. Dr. B has a doctorate in applied psychology and has been a performance psychologist for over 44 years. He is a performance coach and a webinar leader in stress reduction and, as such, he has become known as the ‘Stress Doctor.” He is also an educator and author. Today, we will learn more about his academic and professional journey, learn more about his career and his forthcoming book, “The Threefold Path to Optimal Living” and hear his advice for those interested in the field of psychology. Dr. B, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:08 BenThank you, Brad. I'm delighted to be here. 00:01:11 BradleyWell, I'm glad that you're taking the time out of your busy schedule to talk with us. First of all, tell me a little bit about your undergraduate studies and when you first took an interest in psychology. 00:01:22 BenWell, I'll start with the latter part of that question. I, uh, my father was a very well-respected clinical psychologist. So, I think there is a, you know, there's a big back story there. When my mother, my mother directed plays for the Parent Teacher association, they were kind of original plays and in one of them, it featured a child psychologist and I was cast, at 9 years old, as a child psychologist. So, so it has quite a history to it. My undergraduate studies were in English, in English literature and sociology. I took a couple of courses in my undergraduate years in psychology, but that was not my main focus. 00:02:08 BradleyI think you attended Bowdoin College in Brunswick, Massachusetts. Is that right? 00:02:13 BenBowdoin, yes, the W is silent. Bowdoin College. 00:02:15 BradleyOh, OK, OK. 00:02:15 BenThat's correct. 00:02:17 BradleyWell, good. And then after that, you know you received your bachelor's degree, as you said, in English and sociology. And then after that, at what point did you kind of decide, hey, I want to continue my graduate degree and, and did you decide that while you were in undergrad, or did you know all along that you wanted to continue your graduate studies? 00:02:40 BenNo, I didn't at all. It's a great question. When I was graduating from college, it was 1969. It was the height of the Vietnam War and I had planned to and was applying to schools in drama. I was a very active in acting and directing theater at Bowdoin and, uhm, but I was highly draftable at the time.

42: Soren Kaplan, PhD – Award-Winning Author, Keynote Speaker, and Founder of Praxie.com Discusses his New Book “Experiential Intelligence” Feb 08, 2023

Dr. Soren Kaplan grew up in the San Francisco Bay area, went to UCLA for his Bachelor of Arts in Sociology, and attended Alliant International University for his master’s and doctorate in Organizational Psychology. In this podcast, he shares his academic and professional journey (and some of his personal journey), offers practical advice for those interested in the field of psychology, and discusses his new book, “Experiential Intelligence: Harness the Power of Experience for Personal and Business Breakthroughs.” During our discussion, Dr. Kaplan recalls what sparked his interest in psychology, in general, and why he focused on organizational psychology for his graduate work. When asked why he selected Alliant International University, Dr. Kaplan responded “I wanted what was being called, at the time, a scholar practitioner model” so that he could “do things in the real world that bridge academia and practice.” He emphasized this by stating “I wanted the knowledge, but I also wanted to make change.” Dr. Kaplan has been creating change for himself and others ever since attending graduate school. As a graduate student, he worked as a consultant for one of the first innovation consulting firms, IdeaScope Associates. One of the many pieces of advice he has for anyone looking for a graduate degree in psychology, especially those in organizational psychology, is to get real-life experience. He states, “I realized very quickly, business wants experience, not just letters after your name.” Therefore, he worked very hard to beef up his resume with real experiences which included internships, working part-time or full-time at organizations or businesses in the industry, and even doing volunteer work. He states, “I loaded up my resume with real experiences that were very short and quick and kind of easy to get for somebody like me.” For example, he shares “I volunteered for a community mediation organization nonprofit where I got trained as a mediator.” Change happens through innovation and breakthroughs, so it is no surprise that Dr. Kaplan is the founder, or co-founder, of three Silicon Valley startups. He was the co-founder of iCohere with is father (Pascal) which was one of the first online learning and collaboration platforms. He is the founder of InnovationPoint, a strategic innovation consulting firm and, more recently, the founder of Praxie which is an online marketplace of business best practices from industry experts, book authors, and consultants. When discussing Praxie, he states “it’s all about trying to take what I’ve gained from my life experience and make it accessible for other people so they can then do what’s important to them. That’s been the most rewarding for me.” His life experiences have contributed to his success. Dr. Kaplan is a best-selling and award-winning author, an international keynote speaker, an affiliate at the Center for Effective Organizations (CEO) at USC’s Marshall School of Business, and a columnist for Inc. Magazine and Psychology Today. His first book, “Leapfrogging: Harness the Power of Surprise for Business Breakthroughs” was named the Best Leadership Book. His second book, “The Invisible Advantage: How to Create a Culture of Innovation” received the Best General Business Book distinction by the International Book Awards. We discuss his third book, “Experiential Intelligence: Harness the Power of Experience for Personal and Business Breakthroughs” which came out January 24, 2023. Although Dr. Kaplan didn’t coin the term “experiential intelligence,” he states “I have expanded upon it and kind of tried to give it life through this book in a way that the world hasn’t yet embraced.” Dr. Kaplan shares that Dr. Robert Sternberg, Past President of the American Psychological Association, coined the term “experiential intelligence” which may also be referred to as “creative intelligence.” To put things into perspective regarding intelligence, first, we had Intelligence Quotient (IQ). Then we had Emotional Intelligence (EQ). And now, we have Experiential Intelligence (XQ). Experiential Intelligence is the third leg of the intelligence stool and is more than just “street smarts,” it reveals how our past life experiences impact our present and future success and how you view opportunities, challenges, and approach goals and goal-setting. The three legs of the intelligence stool (IQ, EQ, XQ) work together to help us better understand and predict success in our personal, professional, and social life. Another piece of advice Dr. Kaplan offers to those interested in the field of psychology that he feels is “invaluable” is “to actually have real conversations with people in the field, meaning you don’t have to go at it alone.” He says don’t be afraid to connect with alumni or other students and do some work upfront and “that one action will give you so much insight and you might be surprised you’ll build relationships and maybe friendships…and you’ll get real practical insight and advice and things that you will not get from a website or a brochure or a social media account.” Near the end of our podcast discussion, Dr. Kaplan and I discuss the concept of “cultural lag” as he believes that “we are experiencing massive cultural lag right now in terms of how we understand how to use artificial intelligence” and other issues. You can listen more about cultural lag around the 44-minute mark of the podcast. Connect with Soren Kaplan: Twitter | Facebook | Linkedin | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/796816432 Interests and Specializations Dr. Soren Kaplan received his MA and PhD in Organizational Psychology from Alliant International University in San Francisco Bay, CA. He is an award-winning, best-selling author and an international keynote speaker who has led professional development programs for thousands of leaders and executives around the world. Business Insider and Thinkers50 have recognized Dr. Kaplan as one of the world's top management thought leaders and consultants. His areas of specialization include innovation, business breakthroughs, and expanding experiential intelligence. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Sociology (1991); University of California – Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA.Master of Arts (MA), Organizational Psychology (1995); Alliant International University, San Francisco Bay, CA.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Organizational Psychology (1997); Alliant International University, San Francisco Bay, CA. Other Sources and Links of Interest Soren Kaplan at AmazonSoren Kaplan Video Blog at Thinkers50Soren Kaplan at SpeakIncSoren Kaplan: Wikipedia Podcast Transcript 00:12 BradleyWelcome to the Master's in Psychology Podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Soren Kaplan to the show. Dr. Kaplan holds a master's and doctorate in organizational psychology. He is a best-selling and award-winning author and affiliate of the Center for Effective Organizations (CEO) at USC's Marshall School of Business and a columnist for Inc. magazine and Psychology Today. Business Insider and the Thinkers50 have recognized Dr. Kaplan as one of the world's top management thought leaders and consultants. Today, we will learn more about his academic and professional journey, learn more about his recent book Experiential Intelligence, and hear his advice for those interested in the field of psychology. Dr. Kaplan, welcome to our podcast. 01:09 SorenThanks, good to be here, Brad. 01:11 BradleyWell, I'm excited to talk to you. You have a very interesting background and that, I was just telling you before we started recording, that's half the fun for me is to start looking at your background and learning what your journey looked like throughout your undergrad and graduate career. So, to start us off, tell us a little bit more about your undergraduate studies and what sparked your interest in psychology. 01:35 SorenUndergraduate was a degree in sociology from UCLA, and it didn't start that way. I started out studying design because I felt like I wanted to do a lot of photography and design work. But then I just I got this pull to understand groups and people, you know, people and, and the social nature of, and how we operate in our communities. And so, I gravitated to social psychology and got a BA from UCLA that then I kind of used to get into the field of organizational psychology from there. 02:09 BradleyWell, it sounds like it. I did see that you went to UCLA and then you attended Graduate School at Alliant International University in San Francisco Bay. Tell me a little bit more about that process, your thought process. There are many schools in California that offer graduate programs in psychology, so why did you decide on Alliant International? 02:31 SorenI wanted what was being called, at the time, a scholar practitioner model. And so, the idea there is that as a scholar you'd, I'd get a PhD and I'd get to do research and learn about how knowledge is created and, and find my own kind of niche in terms of what I could study and contribute back to the field. And the practitioner side of it, scholar practitioner is really about how do you, in a practical context, apply the degree to make change to get a job and, and, do things in the real world that bridge academia and practice. And so that scholar practitioner model for me was very important because I, I felt like I wanted the knowledge, but I also wanted to make change. And so that's, that's where, that's how I chose Alliant, and there's a number of kind of dimensions within that, but that's that was the focus. 03:28 BradleyWell, it sounds like it,

41: Phyllis Leavitt, MA – Author and Retired Psychotherapist Shares Her Journey and Brings a Message of Urgency, Hope, and Healing in her New Book Jan 31, 2023

Phyllis Leavitt originally majored in English at Simmons College in Boston, MA before transferring to The New School College in New York, NY. In this podcast, Phyllis shares her academic and professional journey leading us through her decision to return to school for her master’s degree in psychology and counseling to practicing as a psychotherapist for over 32 years to running her own private practice for 25 years. She has recently retired and though she has already authored multiple books, she is currently working on a new book that brings a message of urgency, hope, and healing to America. By the time Phyllis wanted to go back to school for her graduate degree, she had three children and was considering being a teacher or a therapist. During our discussion, she states “I chose psychology and therapy and I’m so glad I did.” Although there were other graduate programs in psychology in New Mexico, Phyllis recalls meeting a field representative from Antioch University who, at the time, was putting together a program that she really liked as it included a small teaching venue, a lot of independent study opportunities, and it “brought together a lot of local professionals to teach classes in different areas, and then we could design some of the program ourselves.” She admits the customization of the Antioch program and that it was in Santa Fe, where she lived, were the two most appealing reasons she attended Antioch University. After earning her Master of Arts in Psychology and Counseling, Phyllis Co-Directed a sexual abuse treatment program before going into private practice. She states that working in the sexual abuse treatment program “was a fantastic experience” and would recommend anyone interested in working in a clinical setting get as much experience and peer supervision as possible as it helps tremendously, especially if you want to open your own private practice. Phyllis recalls that they did mostly group therapy and had groups of all ages of children, non-offending parents, adults who survived sexual abuse, and groups for offenders. She states, “I felt like it gave me a very solid foundation for moving into private practice.” Now retired, Phyllis is following her passion…writing. Though she had the idea for her current book almost 20 years ago, she is glad that she waited to write the book as her understanding and scope for the book has grown. She explains that there are multiple themes in her book. One stems from her own abuse in her childhood and once she started therapy and realized this, then all of the puzzle pieces began to fall into place. She also realized that there are “millions of people like me out there, and they’re not only the victims of child abuse, but they’re victims of war and, and you know, discrimination and poverty and sexism” and there are “so many people in the world who don’t know why they are the way they are.” Phyllis then discusses another theme of her book which is a belief that ”our government operates very much, in many ways, like an abusive parent” and that “there are many people in positions of great power who pick their scapegoats, target certain populations and make them the enemy, which is exactly what abusive adults do in their own families.” She says that her book is designed to bring this understanding to the way we see our country and the way we treat people. She then discusses the term “identified patient” and explains the underlying thesis in her book “is that the most symptomatic among us are calling for help for the American family, for our country’s family.” She continues “If we could move beyond domination and submission and really experience ourselves as equals and find the balance of the male and female within ourselves as well as honor that in others, we wouldn’t have war. We wouldn’t have rape. We wouldn’t have greed.” Phyllis also discusses hope in therapy and states, as therapists, “we have hope for our clients, we wouldn’t do this work if we didn’t think there was hope for healing and transforming pain into purpose and meaning and fulfillment.” She emphasizes the urgency to bring America to therapy and mentions “an incredible psychiatrist, name Dr. Bandy Lee, who’s written a lot about the current mental state of some of our leaders and she calls it ‘Battered Nation Syndrome.’” When asked about her favorite term, principle, or theory she states “it probably all comes down to love” and explains that “we’re here to learn how to love ourselves and that love is the greatest healer.” She relates this to her book and summarizes by saying “I think it comes down to we want to be seen, we want to be valued, we want to belong, and those are all aspects of love.” Connect with Phyllis Leavitt: Twitter | Facebook | Linkedin | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/794327047 Interests and Specializations Phyllis Leavitt is a recently retired psychotherapist of 32 years who is now following one of her passions…writing. She has written “The Road Home: A Light In The Darkness” and “Into the Fire” and is currently writing a book on what it would mean to bring America therapy. In it, she brings a message of urgency, hope, and healing in language the layperson can easily relate to and understand. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Liberal Arts (1969); The New School College, New York, NY.Master of Arts (MA), Psychology and Counseling (1989); Antioch University, Santa Fe, NM. Other Sources and Links of Interest Phyllis E. Leavitt: AmazonPhyllis E. Leavitt: Youtube Podcast Transcript 00:15 BradleyWelcome to the Master's in Psychology Podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Phyllis Leavitt to the show. Phyllis has a master's degree in psychology and has worked as a psychotherapist for over 32 years. She has had her own private practice for almost 25 years, and she has written multiple books and is currently writing a book on what it would mean to bring America therapy. Today we will learn more about our academic and professional journey, learn more about her upcoming book, and hear her advice for those interested in the field of psychology. Phyllis, welcome to our podcast. 01:04 PhyllisThank you so much, Bradley, and I just really appreciate you having me here today. 01:08 BradleyWell, I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to talk with us. You have a very interesting background and, before we get started, just tell us a little bit more about your undergraduate studies and what originally sparked your interest in psychology. 01:22 PhyllisWell, what originally sparked my interest in psychology was going to therapy, actually. So, my first experience of therapy, I was in my 30s, and my life was kind of a mystery to me. I had no idea why I was drawn to what I was drawn to, and some of the things in my life that really weren't working. And at that time, you know psychology was not a big thing in the world that I lived in. And so, it was a, a departure from the norm for me to go to therapy. And it was really eye opening and awakening. I actually had no idea that my childhood influenced my adulthood, and you know, and I and again, that was a long time ago, so it may be not the same for people who are entering a master's program now, but it was, it was very eye opening and I had I had three children at the time and I really wanted to go back to Graduate School and I was considering either being a teacher or a therapist and I chose psychology and therapy and I'm so glad I did. 02:26 BradleyWell, it sounds like it because we'll, we'll get into what you did with your degrees in a second but tell us a little bit more. Where did you receive your bachelor's degree and what was your major? 02:37 PhyllisMy major was originally English. I started at Simmons and then I transferred, at the time, the New School College in New York City had a program just for juniors and seniors and I transferred there, and I was just a, a liberal arts major so I didn't have really any psychological training early on. 02:57 BradleySo, at what point did you know that you wanted to continue your education and major in psychology for a graduate degree? 03:05 PhyllisRight, and that really came when I went to therapy… 03:08 BradleyOK. 03:11 Phyllis… and went to school and that was that was really clear. Like I really want to do this and, and I was living in Santa Fe, NM at the time and I, I researched a couple of programs. There was a program at U&M and there was a program at Highlands University for master's in psychology and counseling and I settled on, uhm, there was a field representative from Antioch University in Santa Fe at the time who was putting together a program and I, I really like a lot of independent study as well as small, you know, small teaching venue and that's really what I got with the Antioch program. And so there were a lot of, she brought together a lot of local professionals to teach classes in different areas, and then we could design some of the program ourselves. And it was really good. I thought it was really good. 04:00 BradleySo, I know I did some research on your background. Antioch University has four or five campuses and you just mentioned that they were putting something together for Santa Fe and you talked to that Rep there. So, did you end up kind of creating your own program and then taking most of the courses online or did you? Did they have a location? 04:17 PhyllisThere was no online. There was no online and I… 04:20 BradleyOK. 04:20 PhyllisI don't know if that program exists anymore in Santa Fe. Yeah, no, the,

40: Calvin Lai, PhD – Assistant Professor and Implicit Bias Researcher Shares his Academic and Professional Journey and Offers Practical Advice Jan 04, 2023

Dr. Calvin Lai grew up in Canada near Toronto and then moved to New Jersey when he was ten years old. Much of what he learned about race and race relations was channeled through topics in his history classes and his daily experience as an Asian, particularly Canadian Asian American. However, it wasn’t until he learned about implicit bias and other related systemic factors that he was able to unlock the vocabulary “for all these kind of subtle acts of exclusion that I had encountered over the years, growing up as an immigrant and so that’s kind of what made me so passionate about it…to understand how it works…and what we can ultimately do about it in terms of, you know, giving everyone the kind of fair treatment they deserve.” Dr. Lai recalls first getting interested in the social sciences as a senior in high school where he took a sociology class which sparked the initial interest of using tools of science to better understand people. At this point, he thought that he would become a sociologist, then he took a psychology class and admits that he got the “bug” there too which explains why he graduated with his BA in psychology and sociology as he sees them as complementary. Dr. Calvin Lai is currently an Assistant Professor of Psychological & Brain Sciences at Washington University in St. Louis, MO. In this podcast, Dr. Lai discusses his academic and professional journey and shares his advice to those interested in the field of psychology and offers practical advice to those interested in applying for doctoral programs in psychology. For example, he suggests that you figure out what you are passionate about, build research experience, and find mentors who can help you figure out where to apply. You need more than a good GPA and a good GRE score. Although, these will get you past the initial cutoff, Dr. Lai points out that PhD advisors may often only get to pick one person that entire year, so they are looking for a candidate who really knows what they’re signing up for and “if you have the experience to show that you do know what you’re signing up for, that’s going to be a real big leg up for a particular PhD advisor.” Dr. Lai is the Director of the Diversity Science Lab at Washington University. When asked how important lab, or research, experience is for someone who wants to attend graduate school in psychology, Dr. Lai states “it is super-duper important.” He adds “I can’t think of a single PhD student” who didn’t have experience before applying to a doctorate program. He states, “if you are able to, it’s really, really important to try to do something like an honors thesis or senior thesis or capstone project.” Therefore, it is essential to gain some research experience if you want to set yourself apart from others during the graduate application process, especially at the doctoral level. When asked what the most important thing was when selecting a graduate psychology program, Dr. Lai states “number 1, by far, was the kind of research fit in terms of, like, if I’m going to spend like five years mostly in the office by myself studying some topic, I really wanted to be sure I was passionate about that topic” but also figuring out “what are my career opportunities likely after going through this graduate program?” Dr. Lai shares “the thing that really blows my mind is just how many different types of graduate degrees that you could pursue that are related to psychology, particularly if you’re interested in things that are related to clinical practice.” So, doing research on the branches or fields of psychology as well as careers in psychology may help guide you when selecting your academic and career path. During our discussion, we also discussed funding options when applying for graduate programs. You typically get more funding opportunities when you apply to a doctoral program than a master’s program. When applying to graduate programs, consider the funding package they offer in your decision. You can also become a Teaching Assistant (TA) or a Research Assistant (RA) or you can apply for scholarships and grants. Dr. Lai discusses one fellowship program in particular, the National Science Foundation Graduate Research Fellowship Program (NSF GRFP). He states, “the great thing about that one is they give you a lot of funding, more than what most PhD programs offer, and they basically buy you out of having to teach so that you have multiple years where you can just focus on your studies and focus on research.” Dr. Lai also shares his experiences related to finding an academic job, particularly a tenure-track position, after completing his doctorate. He states, “the academic job market is infamous because it is very, very hard to get a tenure track position, particularly at an incredibly research-intensive university like Washington University.” He applied to around 30-40 academic positions every year for three years in a row before finding the job that best fit his interests and goals. He points out that the number of tenure track professors in the United States “hasn’t really increased very much over the past 20 years” yet the number of PhDs has increased tremendously. In hindsight, he suggests being open to exploring other options and opportunities. Some people use their PhD in other fields outside of the academic world in clinical work, industry, or tech such as Facebook or Yelp or something else. Dr. Lai is the Chair of the Scientific Advisory Board of Project Implicit, a nonprofit devoted to research and education about implicit bias and other subtle forms of prejudice and discrimination. He briefly discusses Project Implicit, its history, and its impact on pushing research in this area forward. He shares “it started off in 1998 as one of the very first websites to collect survey data on the Internet, and since then over the past 24 years, over 25 million people have visited our research platform and taken studies about implicit bias, prejudice, stereotyping, and discrimination.” When asked to share something unique about himself, Dr. Lai shared that he “calculated a couple of years ago about the number of people that are of Chinese origin that were originally Canadian and then immigrated to America. There’s about 8000 of us in the entire United States, so I am one of them.” He rounds off our discussion by sharing one of his favorite terms and principles then shares that he would like to study how people pick the hobbies they are interested in as he believes those hobbies help “fulfill some type of psychological need or maybe something that they’re not getting from their work or family.” Connect with Dr. Calvin Lai: Twitter | Linkedin | Faculty Page | Lab PageConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/786185169 Interests and Specializations Dr. Calvin Lai “studies how people create, interpret, and maintain social group distinctions.” In particular, Dr. Lai’s research interests include implicit biases: how implicit biases change, understanding the consequences of implicit bias for behavior, and developing interventions to reduce the impact of implicit biases on behavior. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Psychology and Sociology (2010); Rutgers University, New Brunswick, NJ. summa cum laudeMaster of Arts (MA), Social Psychology (2012); University of Virginia, Charlottesville, VA.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Social Psychology (2015); University of Virginia, Charlottesville, VA. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Calvin Lai: Google ScholarDr. Calvin Lai: Diversity Science LabDr. Calvin Lai: Does Diversity Training Work? Podcast Transcript 00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Calvin Lai to the show. Dr. Lai is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Psychological and Brain Sciences at Washington University in St. Louis and the Director of the Diversity Science Lab. He is a Faculty Affiliate in the Center for the Study of Race, Ethnicity, and Equity, and in the Division of Computational and Data Sciences. He is also the Chair of the Scientific Advisory Board at Project Implicit. Today, we will learn more about his academic and professional journey, learn more about Project Implicit and the Diversity Science Lab, and hear his advice for those interested in the field of psychology. Dr. Lai, welcome to our podcast. 01:08 CalvinHi, it's a pleasure being here. 01:10 BradleyWell, I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to talk with us. To start off, first tell me a little bit more about your undergraduate studies and what sparked your interest in psychology. 01:21 CalvinYeah, so in my undergraduate degree I was a kind of psychology and sociology double major and what really interested me about psychology was the fact that, like all of these, kind of like perennial questions about human nature and how humans interact like you know, do birds of a feather flock together or do opposites attract right? It wasn't something that you just kind of like you know, talked it out with your friends and just never had any resolution to, you could actually just collect data and just find out what the answer was, and so that's what really fascinated me about psychology that we could actually make progress on understanding what people think, feel, and do. 02:02 BradleyWell, that sounds great. I, a lot of people think about what, why do people act this way and why do they think this way? And so, we're gonna get into some of your interests a little bit later on. But on this podcast, we usually go in kind of in chronological order for your undergrad, grad, and why you selected certain schools. So,

39: Frank C. Worrell, PhD – President of the American Psychological Association (APA) Reflects on his Academic, Professional, and APA Journey Dec 14, 2022

Dr. Frank C. Worrell was born in Port of Spain, Capital of Trinidad and Tobago, and he remembers growing up in an area where the only running water in the house was from the tap in the kitchen. In this podcast interview, Dr. Worrell begins talking about his academic and professional journey by recalling where he and his parents grew up and how hard his parents worked to support the family. His parents were born in little fishing villages in Trinidad and Tobago, and he shares that his “mum eventually became an elementary school teacher.” Dr. Worrell liked education and his favorite subject growing up was English, so he was going to study English at the University of the West Indies, Trinidad campus. However, he shares an experience that changed his life and started him down the path of psychology. In fact, it was his interest in psychology that made him leave Trinidad “because psychology was not offered as a subject, even undergraduate, at the University of the West Indies.” He further explains “I’m the first in my family, the third of four kids, and the first to go to college, and so they agreed to let me go to Canada.” Dr. Worrell shares how he ended up attending the University of Western Ontario for his BA in Psychology and his MA in Educational Psychology. He explains why he changed his major from English to psychology and reveals how his father helped him while he was in school. In particular, his father came out of retirement and started working two jobs to pay for his tuition and he encouraged him to apply for a Commonwealth Scholarship which helped pay for his junior and senior year in college. After completing his master’s degree in educational psychology at Western, Dr. Worrell went back to Trinidad and was an English teacher and school counselor for a year. Then he was a Principal of a private, low-tuition school where the kids had been kicked out or flunked out of the regular school system and explains this is where he “got very interested in the factors that pushed kids out of school.” After spending a couple years in Trinidad, Dr. Worrell thought that he would go back to Canada and probably go back to Western to do his PhD, however, one of his best friends was at UC Berkeley and asked him if he was considering applying to Berkeley. His friend sent him a catalog and he ended up applying to many different schools that offered a graduate school psychology program. Out of all the schools in California that offer a graduate program in psychology, Dr. Worrell explains why he selected UC Berkeley. Dr. Worrell completed his postdoctoral work in clinical training at the Center for Educational Diagnosis and Remediation (CEDAR) Clinic within the College of Education at Pennsylvania State University. We then discuss his first professorship as an Assistant Professor in the School of Psychology at Penn State where he remained from 1994 to 2003 as an Assistant and Associate Professor before going back to UC Berkeley as an Associate Professor in Cognition and Development. Dr. Worrell eventually becomes the Director of the School Psychology Program, Faculty Director of the Academic Talent Development Program and the California College Preparatory Academy. He is also an Affiliate Professor of the Social and Personality Program in the Department of Psychology and a Distinguished Professor of Education in the School Psychology Program at UC Berkeley. Dr. Worrell is the author of more than 300 articles and book chapters, and he has received numerous awards for his teaching, service, and research. Recently, he received the Distinguished Lecturer award from the National Association of School Psychologists. Dr. Worrell and his co-editors Paula Olszewski-Kubilius and Rena F. Subotnik received the National Association for Gifted Children (NAGC) Scholar Book of the Year Award two years in a row for two different books. They received the NAGC Scholar Book of the Year Award in 2019 for their book “Talent Development as a framework for Gifted Education: Implications for Best Practices and Applications in Schools” (Prufrock Press, 2018). In 2020, they received the award again for their book “The Psychology of High Performance: Developing Human Potential into Domain-Specific Talent” (American Psychological Association, 2019). Dr. Worrell has been active at the APA for a long time serving as a member at large of the Board of Directors from 2016-2018 and serving as President of the APA’s Division of School Psychology in 2007 and then on the APA Council of Representatives representing that Division from 2010-2015. He is a member of seven APA divisions, with fellow status in five, and has served on multiple APA committees, boards, and task forces. Dr. Worrell’s service as the current President of the American Psychological Association (APA) will end at the end of this year. During our discussion, he reflects on his time as President, discusses his goals and accomplishments, and shares the important work the APA is doing for psychologists and society. In his video candidacy statement, Dr. Worrell said “…the APA and APA President need to be inward and outward facing to continue the substantial transformational changes in the organization while communicating psychological knowledge and expertise to other organizations in the world.” He also wanted to ensure that everybody’s voice would feel heard during council meetings by making sure to “include and amplify the diverse multiple and varied voices in psychology.” Upon reflection, Dr. Worrell shared that many members told him that “they felt their voices were heard” and that “people left the meetings actually feeling positive about what happened” even if their side did not win the vote or the motion they supported did not pass. He is also proud of the work that the APA did in response to the mass shootings by taking out a full-page ad in the US News alongside eight other associations. The APA also submitted comments or spoke out against anti-Semitism, anti-Asian, and Roe vs. Wade to bring “the scientific, the psychological science to bear on these issues” and “share that with the public.” Additionally, in 2021, the APA passed an apology to people of color for APA’s role in perpetuating racism and discrimination and also passed a resolution saying that psychology would work to end societal racism and discrimination. Then, in 2022, the APA followed up by passing a racial equity action plan which they will continue working on in the future. Dr. Worrell states, “I’m proud of the year we’ve had” and “I’m glad I made the decision to serve at this time.” Near the end of our discussion, we discuss some of the broad strands of psychology including basic research or developmental psychology, applied psychology, and health service psychology which he explains “really encompasses three major strands: clinical psychology, counseling psychology, and school psychology.” He then discusses these in more depth and summarizes by stating “So, clinical psychologists get more emphasis on psychopathology than the other two. Counseling psychologists get more emphasis on sort of self-actualization than the other two. School psychology get a much more emphasis on school-based practice than the other two.” Throughout the podcast, Dr. Worrell shares his experience and advice for those interested in the field of psychology. For example, those interested in getting funding for your graduate degree should know that “applying for a doctoral degree is going to give you much more funding than applying for a masters.” He also suggests that you take a look at those “things that resonate for you in psychology” and “once you’ve decided what that is, worry less about becoming a superstar and think about doing good work. If you do good work, the rest will follow.” Connect with Dr. Frank C. Worrell: Facebook | Twitter | Linkedin | Faculty PageConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/780682275 Interests and Specializations Dr. Frank C. Worrell’s research interests include at-risk youth, talent development and gifted education, cultural identities, scale development and validation, time perspective, teacher effectiveness, and the application of psychological research findings into school-based practice. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Psychology with Honours (1985); University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada.Master of Arts (MA), Educational Psychology (1987); University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Educational and School Psychology (1994); University of California, Berkeley, CA. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Frank C. Worrell: Google ScholarDr. Frank C. Worrell: CVDr. Frank C. Worrell: National Academy of EducationDr. Frank C. Worrell: National Association for Gifted Children Podcast Transcript 00:00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Frank Worrell to the show. Dr. Worrell is the current President of the American Psychological Association. He is also a Distinguished Professor in the School of Education at the University of California, Berkeley, where he serves as Faculty Director of the School Psychology program and the Academic Talent Development program. Today, we will learn more about his academic and professional journey, learn more about his experiences in the APA, and hear the advice he has for those interested in the field of psychology and those who want to become more involved in the APA. Dr. Worrell, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:05 FrankThank you very much for the kind invitation. 00:01:08 BradleyWell,

38: Sarah E. Gaither, PhD – Assistant Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience at Duke University is Fast Becoming a Leading Researcher in the Field of Multiracial Identities Dec 01, 2022

Dr. Sarah E. Gaither was born and raised in Sacramento, CA and went to the same school from kindergarten through 12th grade. She then went to UC Berkeley for her undergraduate work before doing two gap years at UCLA in Southern California. She states “I never knew I wanted to go to Graduate School until those gap years and it was me actually running the study where I discovered, through a literature review of all things which I know lots of people don’t like doing, but through this literature review, I actually discovered that in 2008 there wasn’t a single paper in psychology that had a biracial sample. I’m a biracially identified person. My dad’s black, my mom’s white. I look very white presenting and so for me, this literature review which most people hate was actually what pushed me to want to apply to graduate school.” Dr. Gaither applied to both social and developmental PhD programs because she has always been interested in kids and families, and identity development. During our discussion, she explains how she ended up at Tufts University in Medford, MA for her master’s and doctorate in Social Psychology. She also explains some of the processes she went through while applying to graduate schools and offers impactful advice to those interested in the field of psychology, especially those interested in earning a doctorate in psychology. In fact, she has a YouTube video which offers “5 Pieces of Advice for PhD Candidates” which we also discuss in addition to some new, updated advice she often offers her current students and other students she is mentoring. Dr. Gaither is currently an Assistant Professor in the Department of Psychology and Neuroscience at Duke University. While discussing her academic and professional journey, Dr. Gaither states that she “applied to 44 jobs across developmental psychology, faculty positions, social psychology, and a few business schools actually.” For her, one of the main factors in choosing Duke over other universities was the location. Duke University is located in Durham, NC which, she explains, “is very split between white and black populations and it’s one of the most racially integrated places I’ve ever lived. So, for me, being able to recruit multiracial and racial ethnic minority participants, it’s very rare to find, what we call a research one university, like Duke, to be located in a city that actually has a ton of racial integration. So that was a big selling point for me.” In this podcast, Dr. Gaither briefly shares why someone should consider the Department of Psychology & Neuroscience at Duke University around 18 minutes into our conversation followed by a brief description of what a typical day looks like for her as an Assistant Professor. She highlights the academic freedom and job flexibility to ask the questions you want to ask and explains “you can literally make every day yours.” Now that she has young kids (twins), she very much appreciates the flexible academic schedule and states “I wouldn’t trade that for the world…I love being an academic.” Dr. Gaither discusses the importance of getting direct research experience if you are interested in getting into a psychology PhD program. She states, “It’s essential. I don’t think anyone will get into a psychology PhD program regardless if it’s social, developmental, clinical without direct research experience. It’s getting more and more competitive every year as we look through our own graduate pools…So, working in research labs, I think, is a must.” As the Director and Principal Investigator of the Duke Identity & Diversity Lab, Dr. Gaither helps guide the research done by the lab members and other collaborators. The Lab team also strives to apply their research to the real-world and showcases their work on their “In The News/Media page.” During our discussion, Dr. Gaither also shares her views regarding the different areas or branches of psychology and believes many of them are not that different. She states, “I think everyone is a social psychologist and everyone is a developmental psychologist.” Near the end of our discussion, Dr. Gaither admits that her favorite, go-to theory is Social Identity Theory as much of her work is directly building upon this theory. In addition to being biracial, you can find out one other thing that makes her unique around 32 minutes into our conversation. Connect with Sarah Gaither: Twitter | LinkedIn | Faculty PageConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/777115989 Interests and Specializations Dr. Sarah E. Gaither’s research interests include studying a person’s social identities and experiences across their lifespan and how it impacts their social perceptions and behaviors in a variety of settings. She examines how having multiple racial or multiple social identities affects different types of behavior and what contexts shape the development of racial perceptions and biases throughout one’s life. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Social Welfare with honors, Concentration in Psychology (2007); University of California, Berkeley, CA.Master of Science (MS), Social Psychology (2011); Tufts University, Medford, MA.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Social Psychology (2014); Tufts University, Medford, MA. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Sarah Gaither: Google ScholarDr. Sarah Gaither: CVQ&A with Dr. Sarah GaitherDr. Sarah Gaither: WUNC InterviewDr. Sarah Gaither at SPSSI Podcast Transcript 00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Sarah Gaither to the show. Dr. Gaither is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Psychology and Neuroscience and a faculty affiliate at the Cook Center on Social Equity at Duke University. She is also the principal investigator of the Duke Identity and Diversity Lab. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey, learn more about her research and what has fueled it, and what it's like to be an Assistant Professor in the Department of Psychology and Neuroscience at Duke University. Dr. Gaither, welcome to our podcast. 01:02 SarahThanks so much for having me. I'm excited to be here. 01:05 BradleyWell, I'm excited to talk to you. I read a lot about your history and your journey as well. To start us off, tell me a little bit more about your undergraduate studies and when you first took an interest in psychology. 01:16 SarahYeah, so it's a funny story for me and something that I tell a lot of my current undergrads who are thinking about grad school and how planned their lives need to be in that I was actually a social welfare major in undergrad. I was not a psychology major. I had a psychology concentration, so I took some psych classes along the way. I was really interested as an undergrad in just understanding how people work and how to make people happier. What makes them sad? And that's why originally, I wanted to do social work and it wasn't until my, an internship I had where I had to represent a family with a young 3-year-old where I learned I wasn't a strong enough person to separate the transcripts and things that I had to write up about what was happening to the sexually abused 3-year-old when I went home at the end of the day. And so, I had thought I was going to be a social worker my whole life and then things needed to change. So, I took two years off after undergrad and I worked as a lab manager in a psychology lab at UCLA and it was actually there that I discovered I really loved psychology research. I had never taken psychology research methods as an undergrad but learning how to do face perception studies and studying biracial populations there for the very first time was actually where I found my, my niche so was actually after undergrad for the most part. 02:30 BradleyI believe that is the UCLA baby lab where you learned all of that, the infant cognition and perception and everything. That must have been pretty interesting. 02:38 SarahYes, yes. I went from UC Berkeley down to UCLA so stayed in California. I’m California born and raised, uhm, yeah, it was very different for me working with infants. It was an eye tracking lab, so they have these fancy computers with infrared technology that can basically scan where babies are staring at when you show them different images on a screen. 02:57 BradleyIt is cool so you, you just said I was going to ask you where were you born, born and raised in California. You moved there for your undergraduate work, or your family moved there or how did you end up in California? 03:09 SarahYeah, born and raised my whole life in California, so I grew up in Sacramento and went to the same school kindergarten through 12th grade. Then went to UC Berkeley for undergrad and then did two years of gap years at UCLA in Southern California. 03:22 BradleyCool and then for some reason you decided to travel all the way from California up to Medford, MA to attend Tufts University. So, there are a lot of graduate psychology schools in Massachusetts that offer, you know, graduate programs in psychology. Why did you decide Tufts? 03:39 SarahSo, I never knew I wanted to go to Graduate School until those gap years and it was me actually running the study where I discovered, through a literature review of all things which I know lots of people don't like doing, but through this literature review, I actually discovered that in 2008 there wasn't a single paper in psychology that had a biracial sample. I'm a biracially identified person. My dad's black, my mom’s white. I look very white presenting and so for me,

37: Steven C. Hayes, PhD – Top-Ranked Psychologist and Foundation Professor of Psychology at the University of Nevada, Reno Shares His Unique Journey and Advice Nov 19, 2022

Imagine growing up in Southern California in the 1960’s, attending high school at University High (which was affiliated with a Catholic college, University of San Diego) and attending college at Loyola University (now called Loyola Marymount University). You, like many others, were undoubtedly influenced by the hippie counterculture of the time as it most likely impacted your personal, academic, and professional life. In this podcast, Dr. Steven C. Hayes shares when and why he took an interest in psychology then takes us on a journey exploring and discussing some of the significant events, experiences, and people who have influenced his illustrious career in the field of psychology. Dr. Hayes decided to be a psychologist while he was still in high school because it combined art and science and he loved both. He states, “I think I was interested in psychology in part because of the suffering I saw around me” and “I wanted to do something that would, you know, make a difference going forward.” He explains that he wanted to take what is deeply important about art, literature, and human complexity into “evidence-based approaches so that…we do a better job of empowering people to live the kind of lives they want to live.” His drive and ambition are almost palpable during our discussion and has certainly contributed to his success. Dr. Hayes is a Nevada Foundation Professor of Psychology in the Behavior Analysis Program at the University of Nevada. An author of 47 books and over 675 scientific articles, he is especially known for his work on Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) which is a popular evidence-based form of psychotherapy that uses mindfulness, acceptance, and values-based methods and has been shown to be helpful in a wide range of areas. His newest book, “Learning Process-Based Therapy: A Skills Training Manual for Targeting the Core Processes of Psychological Change in Clinical Practice” came out in December 2021. An expert on the importance of acceptance, mindfulness, and values, he is ranked among the most cited psychologists in the world. In fact, as of this writing, Google Scholar data ranks Dr. Hayes among the 935 highest impact living scholars worldwide in all areas of study and Research.com lists him as the 63rd highest impact psychologist in the world. When I reminded him of these rankings and showed him where he was ranked on Research.com, Dr. Hayes shared that he and his mentor, Dr. David H. Barlow, had a good laugh as Dr. Barlow told him “you’ve been chasing me for 30 years and you finally caught up” (Dr. Barlow is ranked 65). Dr. Hayes is very proactive in sharing his research, information, and findings with the public. His TEDx talks and YouTube presentations have exceeded over 1 million views. He also shares relevant information and findings through his blog, Psychology Today, Medium, Thrive Global websites, and through the Association for Contextual Behavioral Science (ACBS) which is one of the three scientific societies that he formed or helped form (the other two are Association for Psychological Science [APS] and the Association for Applied and Preventative Psychology [which hit about 2000 member but eventually folded]). Throughout our discussion, Dr. Hayes offers realistic and impactful advice to those interested in entering the field of psychology. For example, for students wondering if they should apply to a master’s program or a PhD program, he states “my thought is always have a fall back with the master’s programs and a range of them if you’re applying at the PhD level.” For those who are not sure of which branch or field of psychology to follow, he suggests “follow your heart because what’s going to keep you going at 2:00 in the morning when you know when the chips are down is what brings passion into your life, so your ideas are really, really important.” He later adds, “when push comes to shove, what’s going to be important is what brings passion to your life and so take the time to really explore of when does your heart rate pick up?” Near the end of the podcast, Dr. Hayes provides a glimpse into what excites him now in the field of psychology and his plans for the future. He mentioned new concepts, new statistical methods, and his new approach to psychology. He also shares what he learned from one of his mentors, Ed Koupal, when it comes to change and making an impact. This is done through groups. Groups matter and the group and community have to care in order to make change. He states “So, I’ve really been interested in creating community around this effort of processes that we can use and deploy and put into people’s lives around the world. And that’s what gets me up in the morning, and it allows me to say a happy ‘yes’ when you say, ‘would you spend an hour talking to people who are considering being a psychologist?’ I say ‘yes,’ not just ‘yes,’ but ‘hell yes, of course, I’ll spend that hour.’” Dr. Hayes is very passionate about the field of psychology and furthering research within the field almost as much as he is about increasing interest the field and applying research to the real world. At the end of our podcast discussion, he states, “If I can share that the ACBS has a motto and here’s our motto, it’s not a declaration of achievement, it’s ‘creating a behavioral science, more worthy of the challenge of the human condition.’ And so, I would just leave it as my parting thought that you’re off into an area where there’s so much to learn that your heart, your head, your hands can make a powerful difference that could be felt around the world even. And there’s not many fields where you can say that. And so come on, the water is fine. Jump on in.” Connect with Steven Hayes: Facebook | Twitter | Faculty Page | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/772514358 Interests and Specializations Dr. Steven C. Hayes is the developer of Relational Frame Theory (RFT) and has guided its extension to Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT). He is interested in fostering the development of contextual behavioral science. Some of his specific interests include the integration of behavioral and biological science, development of new measures and assessments of experiential avoidance, values, and cognitive fusion as well as the creation of a new model of evidence-based intervention called Process-Based Therapy. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Cum Laude, Psychology (1970); Loyola Marymount University, Los Angeles, CA.Master of Arts (MA), Clinical Psychology (1974); West Virginia University, Morgantown, WV.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Clinical Psychology (1977); West Virginia University, Morgantown, WV. Other Sources and Links of Interest Steven C. Hayes: WikipediaSteven C. Hayes: Research GateSteven C. Hayes: Amazon BooksSteven C. Hayes: Association for Contextual Behavioral Science Podcast Transcript 00:00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Steven C. Hayes to the show. Dr. Hayes is a Nevada Foundation Professor of Psychology in the Behavior Analysis program at the University of Nevada, Reno. He is an author of 47 books including “Get Out of Your Mind and Into Your Life” which was the best-selling self-help book in the US for a time and his new book, “Learning Process-Based Therapy.” Dr. Hayes is especially known for his work on Acceptance and Commitment Therapy or ACT. Google Scholar data ranks him among the top 935 highest impact living scholars worldwide in all areas of study and Research.com lists him as the 63rd highest impact psychologist in the world. Today, we will learn more about his academic and professional journey, more about ACT, and what he did as a freshman in college to make the entire cafeteria crowd at Loyola University stand up and clap. Dr. Hayes, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:33 StevenI'm really happy to be here. Looking forward to our conversation Brad. 00:01:37 BradleyWell, I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule. I read somewhere that you decided to become a psychologist in high school because it combined art and science and you love both. Can you tell me a little bit more about this and was there anything in particular that sparked your interest in psychology? 00:01:55 StevenWell, I think I was interested in psychology in part because of the suffering I saw around me. I think many people get involved with psychology either because they sense it within themselves or in their family or others, they see that you know that there's a need for this knowledge, but the reason why that sort of art science side is that I was really interested in in literature and, and stories and things of that kind of I edited a literary magazine in college actually, even after becoming a psych major. But I also thought, you know, is you know Shakespeare less of a playwright than a modern playwright? Well, no, yeah, I couldn't really see much progressivity, I could see the importance of it. But I couldn't really see the progressivity of art and literature, and I wanted to do something that would, you know, make a difference going forward. And to me, science looked like it was the most progressive thing that we know how to do as a human invention. Uh, and that so being able to sort of put those two together, I've sort of made little promise that I was going to be the one, a person who could figure out to take what's deeply important about art and literature, and human complexity seen that way and bring it into evidence-based approaches so that, you know, we do a better job of empowering people to live the kind of lives that they want to live.

36: Martin Hsia, PsyD – Serendipitous Journey of Licensed Psychologist and Executive Director of the Cognitive Behavior Therapy Center of Southern California (CBTSoCal) Nov 09, 2022

Dr. Martin Hsia grew up in Los Angeles, CA and first took an interest in psychology while in high school but wasn’t quite sure. He had friends who really loved history, chemistry, and math but recalls “none of those really kind of felt like they were going to be my jam. I thought maybe I’d be interested in medicine, because I kind of like the idea of helping people.” He attended Tufts University in Medford, MA and realized that med school wasn’t his thing either and eventually gravitated back towards psychology. In this podcast, Dr. Hsia discusses his academic and professional journey and the serendipitous circumstances that led him to Fuller Graduate School of Theology then to Fuller Graduate School of Psychology and eventually led him to become the Executive Director of a private practice called Cognitive Behavior Therapy Center of Southern California (CBTSoCal). After Dr. Hsia received his BA in Psychology and Spanish at Tufts University, he admits “I didn’t really think about being a clinician, being a therapist at the time.” He was hired in an administrative role for a large provider of mental health services around the greater Boston area in their intake department. In this role, he interacted with people who were calling for therapy services for medication management. He states, “on the back end, [I] also interacted with the clinicians, the psychiatrists, the clinical nurse specialists, the social workers, and the psychologists and it really was a, a great exposure to being in the world [of psychology].” Out of all the psychology graduate schools in California, Dr. Hsia only applied to one graduate school. During our discussion, he shares why he chose Fuller Graduate School of Theology and Fuller Graduate School of Psychology for his PsyD in Clinical Psychology. He liked “a component of integrating sort of spirituality and issues of existentialism and faith, worldviews was really important to me, and so it just interested me because Fuller’s program is unique.” He also explains why he decided to earn his PsyD instead of a PhD. He admits “I didn’t even know the difference between those two until I applied to graduate school.” Once he learned the difference, he recalls that he was more interested “in being a therapist and the PsyD was much more clinically focused in that regard” so “that’s the path I chose.” Dr. Hsia shares his advice for those interested in the field of psychology and explains those who are considering doctoral studies, “typically in clinical psychology, the last year is a full year working as a pre-doctoral intern before you get your degree.” He shares his experience at Loma Linda VA Hospital as a pre doctoral intern and as a postdoctoral fellow in the trauma recovery program working with veterans and former service members dealing with Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and other conditions. During our discussion about how he became the Executive Director of the Cognitive Behavior Therapy Center of Southern California (CBTSoCal), Dr. Hsia explains how his “good friend and former colleague and mentor Dr. Rodney Boone…founded the practice quite a number of years ago.” He explains that the practice specializes in working with people who have OCD, anxiety disorders, and insomnia among other things. CBTSoCal has two locations: one in Torrance (South Bay) and another in Glendale (San Fernando/San Gabriel Valleys). In this podcast, we discussed Cognitive Behavior Therapy (CBT) as well as two approaches for treating Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) including Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP), sometimes referred to as Exposure with Response Prevention, and Inference-Based CBT (I-CBT). Near the end of our podcast discussion, Dr. Hsia also discusses body dysmorphic disorder which falls under the larger umbrella of OCD. You can jump to around 38:55 to find out more about this disorder. Connect with Martin Hsia: Facebook | Twitter | LinkedIn | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/764377660 Interests and Specializations Dr. Martin Hsia specializes in helping people with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), anxiety, insomnia, and provides consultation regarding communication, problem-solving, and communication. Dr. Hsia also applies CBT in his treatment of individuals with ADHA, depression, gambling addiction, and trichotillomania. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Psychology, Spanish (2001); Tufts University, Medford, MA.Master of Arts (MA), Christian Leadership; Fuller Graduate School of Theology, Pasadena, CA.Doctor of Psychology (PsyD), Clinical Psychology (2008); Fuller Graduate School of Psychology, Pasadena, CA. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Martin Hsia: Psychology Today Podcast Transcript 00:00:12 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Martin Hsia to the show. Dr. Hsia is a licensed psychologist and executive director at the Cognitive Behavior Therapy Center in Southern California, otherwise known as CBTSoCal. He specializes in helping people with OCD, anxiety, and ADHD. Today we will learn more about his academic and professional journey and what he and others at CBTSoCal do and what he loves most about his job. Dr. Hsia, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:01 MartinPleasure Brad. I look forward to speaking with you. 00:01:04 BradleyWell, I'm excited to have you on the show. To start off, just tell me a little bit more about your undergraduate studies and when you first took an interest in psychology. 00:01:14 MartinRight, so I attended undergraduate studies at Tufts University in Boston and ahh I had, you know, had an interest in sort of psychology, at least what I thought it was in high school just because, you know, I had friends who loved history and another friend that loved chemistry and really sort of found their thing and or you know friends who really into, into math and none of those really kind of felt like they were going to be my jam. I thought maybe I'd be interested in medicine, because I kind of like the idea of helping people. And, you know, being a professional in that regard. But I was also just really interested in in kind of people and motivation and personality and things like that. So, I went when I went when I first went to, got to Tufts, I thought, well, maybe I'll I, I sort of was an unofficially declared psychology major, but with a possible eye open still to, you know, maybe pre Med coursework and then I remember within the first week of college I saw my friends in the dorm who were doing, you know, bio 10 homework, their first pre Med classes and I said I guess I'm not going to Med school because that looked out of my league. And anyways, long story short, yeah, I mean at my university international relations, international business, and economics is really big, so I kind of considered that for a while just 'cause that's what a lot of people were doing, but eventually gravitated back towards psychology and, uhm, I, you know, got my degree, undergraduate degree. 00:02:54 BradleyI believe you majored in both psychology and Spanish am I, am I right? 00:03:00 MartinI did, it was a double major, you know, I had studied Spanish in high school and really enjoyed the language and I studied abroad so it just sort of made sense to, you know, take enough classes and, and have that major as well. 00:03:14 BradleySo, at what point did you actually think about continuing your, your career academically and to get your graduate degree in psychology, then was that while you were going through, or was it before, during, after your undergrad? Tell me a little bit more about that. 00:03:28 MartinRight, yeah, so as I said, I sort of it's it was sort of waves of a I guess life calling if you will where I sort of said I think that sounds like something I might be interested in and sort of veered away from it in my sophomore year and then sort of came back to you, got my degree and then I graduated and sort of said well, I, I don't think I want to teach. I'm not really interested in research and I didn't really think about being a clinician, being a therapist at the time for whatever reason and so I just graduated and you know did some temp work and because of a degree in psychology was hired in an administrative role in, you know, sort of like a large you know, provider of mental health services around the Greater Boston area, uh, in their sort of intake department. So, I was handling phone intakes and, in that role, really got to both interact with people who were calling for therapy for services for medication management for everything under the sun. And on the back end, also interacted with the clinicians, the psychiatrists, the clinical nurse specialists, the social workers, and the psychologists and it really was a, a great exposure to being in the world that you know and, and so and I said, hey, maybe this maybe I wouldn't pursue graduate studies in this and, and then eventually that's what happened so. 00:04:50 BradleyAnd eventually you attended Graduate School at Fuller Graduate School of Theology in Pasadena, CA. I believe you received your masters in Christian leadership. And then you continued on for your PsyD in clinical psychology within the same school, I believe. But it was the School of Psychology at Fuller instead. So, tell me, you know, there were so many different schools, graduate schools, in the state of California, and you know I'll share my screen and just give an example here real quick. Let me go here and share right here and you'll see. Here's the state of California. Tons and tons of schools here, but I highlighted for,

35: Rex Jung, PhD – Unconventional Career Path of Clinical Neuropsychologist and Owner of Brain and Behavioral Associates Nov 02, 2022

Dr. Rex Jung only had one introduction to psychology class during his entire undergraduate career at the University of Boulder, CO and admitted, at the time, psychology wasn’t his path. Instead, he graduated with a BS in Finance and was working for several years in the business world before he found his passion. It wasn’t until he started volunteering for the Special Olympics that he became fascinated and interested in how the brain works. Now in his late 20’s, he decided to explore what kind of work was available in that area and psychology, in general, was one of the paths. He states, “I discovered later, neuropsychology was the particular path that would get me to where I wanted to be.” In this podcast, you will learn more about Dr. Jung’s unconventional career path in psychology. If you want to follow the typical academic path and become a professor in psychology, this episode may not be for you. However, if you are looking for inspiration and advice on how to find your passion and turn that into a career that, as Dr. Jung states, “tickles” your brain and makes your “brain sing,” then this is the Master’s in Psychology Podcast episode you don’t want to miss. To make the strange transition from finance and business to psychology, Dr. Jung started in the clinical psychology program at Loyola College in Baltimore, MD so “that I at least look plausible” as an applicant when applying to PhD programs. Dr. Jung shares the backstory leading up to starting graduate school at Loyola. He had to move furniture in both Colorado and Baltimore to put himself through school and to provide himself with food and lodging. While he was in Baltimore, Dr. Jung did many things. He worked at the National Institute of Aging in a research laboratory of personality and cognition. He volunteered at Shock Trauma Hospital as a neuropsychology technician doing testing and also volunteered at Johns Hopkins in neurosurgery (and pediatric neurosurgery), so he was able to see the medical training and neuropsychological aspects of the field which helped him decide on a graduate school and realize that “it was the specialization of neuropsychology that was the best fit for me.” His National Institute of Aging job and Shock Trauma job later turned into paid positions so he could eventually stop moving furniture and that is when he had enough money to start graduate school in the master’s program in clinical psychology at Loyola. Dr. Jung had two main criteria for PhD graduate schools. First, there had to be mountains in or near it. Second, there had to be snow. He missed the western part of the country, so he applied to schools all up and down the Rocky Mountain range. He was a little over a year into his master’s program when he was accepted and started his PhD at the University of New Mexico. He recalls that many of his classes transferred from the master’s program to the PhD program at UNM. After receiving his doctorate in clinical neuropsychology, Dr. Jung followed the advice of his advisors and found a place outside of New Mexico for his internship. He looked around and found that the best research was being done at Baylor College of Medicine, so he applied there and a number of other places and was accepted at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, TX. While there, he worked side by side with neurologists and neurosurgeons to do awake craniotomies “to test patients while they’re undergoing neurosurgery to determine if you’re cutting part of the brain that is important to ongoing cognitive functions.” He still had family in Albuquerque, so he made fifty round trip flights during that year. He states, “it was an important, hard, expensive year, but I got the experience that I needed.” Dr. Jung is a licensed psychologist and a practicing clinical neuropsychologist. He is president and owner of a private neuropsychology practice called Brain and Behavioral Associates, PC in Albuquerque, NM which “provides neuropsychological, legal, and independent medical evaluations for your patients or clients, from young adults through seniors.” During our discussion, Dr. Jung shares what a typical day looks like as a clinical neuropsychologist in his practice. For those of you who like the Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul TV series, his practice is located right next to the Dog House Drive In which is a major backdrop in both of these series. When asked what he loves most about his job, Dr. Jung states “I love working with patients. It is psychology condensed down to its most concentrated elements. Because I have very little time to spend with patients, I really have to concentrate on trying to instill change in them oftentimes in a very short amount of time.” He further states “it’s very distilled psychology but very important work that we do. And I feel fortunate to be able to do this work. It’s very gratifying.” Dr. Jung loves to travel and has been to Iceland about a half a dozen times. He says that he found Iceland “to be the most profoundly beautiful outdoor scenery I have ever encountered in my life” and he’s planning on going back again in December when Iceland only has light for about 4 hours per day “just to soak up more of its beauty.” Connect with Rex Jung: LinkedIn | Twitter | UNM Faculty page | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/763923034 Interests and Specializations Dr. Rex Jung is primarily interested in relating behavioral measures such as intelligence, creativity, and personality to brain function and structure in healthy, neurological, and psychiatric subjects. Education Bachelor of Science (BS), Finance (1986); University of Colorado, Boulder, CO (Cum Laude).Master of Science (MS), Clinical Neuropsychology (1996); University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, NM.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Clinical Neuropsychology (2001); University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, NM. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Rex Jung: WikipediaDr. Rex Jung: International Society for Intelligence Research (ISIR)Dr. Rex Jung: Unwavering Faith article at Psychology Today Podcast Transcript 00:00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Rex Jung to the show. Dr. Jung is the president and owner of a private neuropsychology practice in Albuquerque, NM called Brain and Behavioral Associates. Although he spent over 14 years in the academic field as an Assistant Research Professor and Assistant Professor at the University of New Mexico Health Sciences Center, his real passion is neuropsychology. Today, we will learn more about his academic and professional journey to show that you don't have to follow the typical academic path to be successful and enjoy your career. Dr. Jung, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:07 RexThank you for having me. I'm glad to be here. 00:01:10 BradleyWell, I'm excited to talk a little bit more about your journey. But, first off, what sparked your interest in psychology in the first place? 00:01:18 RexIt's kind of a long and fraught story. I, I, my undergraduate degrees in finance, so I only had one intro to psych class as an undergraduate, and really, that wasn't my path. I had graduated with a degree in business, was out in the business world working for several years and started volunteering for Special Olympics and really became fascinated and interested in how the brain works and works less well in all of its manifestations in intellectual disability, Autism, cerebral palsy, seizures, epilepsy, and really made a decision at that time that I wanted to do work in that area. And, uhm, although it was difficult, I was in my late 20s at the time, I wanted to kind of do a redo or reset and pursue work in that area and explore what type of work was available in that area and psychology, in general, was one of the paths and then I, as I discovered later, neuropsychology was the particular path that would get me to where I wanted to be. 00:02:35 BradleyAnd you already mentioned this, you went to the University of Colorado Boulder for a bachelor's degree, and it was in finance. And so throughout that undergraduate career, it sounds like you were turned on with the, the study of the brain and, and as you mentioned, everything that goes with that, you decided to attend Graduate School at the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque. Uhm, there are a handful of universities and I'm going to share my screen real quick here just for those who are tuning in and can see the screen. I'll share my screen and, and here's your main website and what I wanted to do is move over here and there are, you know, as I mentioned, there are a lot of different master’s and doctoral programs in New Mexico. So, tell us why you decided on the University of New Mexico versus some of these other ones or going outside of New Mexico as well. 00:03:33 RexOh my, I was in Baltimore at the time. I, I grew up in Boulder and so Boulder was my hometown. I went to University of Colorado in Boulder's undergraduate as, as we discussed and I was in Baltimore doing work at that time and my two main criteria for graduate school was there had to be mountains in it, there had to be snow, and so I wanted to get back West. I really missed the western part of the, the country and so I applied all up and down the mountain range, the Rocky Mountain range, from Montana down to New Mexico places in Arizona, Utah, Wyoming, Colorado and, uhm, again, it was pretty naive criteria, but I, I wanted to get back West if I was going to spend, you know, upwards of 7-8-9 years in a place I wanted it to be someplace that I really liked. Someplace that I enjoyed.

34: Jeffrey Froh, PsyD – Writer, Professor, and Emerging Leader in the Rapidly Expanding Field of Positive Psychology Oct 20, 2022

Dr. Jeffrey Froh is a writer, professor, and fast becoming a leader in the field of positive psychology. He attended St. Joseph’s University as an undergrad majoring in sociology and minoring in psychology, that is, until his dad asked him “Jeff, what are you gonna do with a degree in sociology?” After reflecting on this, Dr. Froh recalls answering, “I don’t know” to which his dad replied “Well, why don’t you major in Psych and minor in Sociology just so you can ‘hang a shingle.’” It was then that Dr. Froh changed his major and began focusing more on psychology. In this podcast, Dr. Froh recalls his academic and professional journey and shares the significant events, experiences, and people who have impacted his life and career. He discusses the reasons why he attended St. John’s University in Queens, NY and why he received his graduate degrees in School Psychology. Dr. Froh also shares why he chose the PsyD route versus earning a PhD and explains how it eventually helped him when getting an academic position at Hofstra University. He explains “they were looking for someone with a PsyD” to show students that you can go the academic route instead of the practitioner route. Many people automatically associate PhD with academic and PsyD with practitioner so Dr. Froh was happy to help Hofstra University show that this doesn’t have to be the case. During our discussion, he shares how he developed an interest in, and passion for, the rapidly expanding field of positive psychology. Dr. Froh has been teaching at Hofstra University since 2006 and, during this time, he created a Positive Psychology course that is one of the most popular courses in Hofstra’s history. He is a Distinguished Teacher of the Year recipient, and he is a New York State certified school psychologist and a licensed psychologist. Dr. Froh is a past Associate Editor for The Journal of Positive Psychology, and he is the Founder and past Clinical Director of the Positive Psychology Institute for Emerging Adults. Dr. Froh provides guidance and advice to those interested in the field of psychology. Among other things, he believes research and clinical experience is crucial for those interested in attending graduate school in psychology. While discussing his career, Dr. Froh admits “every job that I’ve had, any school psych thing or academic adjunct, whatever, I was able to put the foot in the door was because of a relationship.” He then shares the backstory behind how he got the academic appointment at Hofstra University. He also shares what a typical day looks like as a Professor of Psychology at Hofstra University and reveals that one of the benefits of the job is “you can recreate yourself as a professor, you know, which is one of the beauties of the job.” Dr. Froh explains how he met his wife and how they became co-owners of Positive Psychological Counseling Services, LLC and why, after working so hard to get the practice up and running, he decided to walk away because he thought he was supposed to be doing something else. Dr. Froh explains that the practice, Family Psychology of Long Island in Oakdale (NY), is still up and running and that Dr. Mark Furshpan is running the business and is a phenomenal clinician. Dr. Froh walked away so that he could focus on writing. This led to a discussion of his new book “Thrive: 10 Commandments for 20-Somethings to Live the Best-Life-Possible” and why he wrote it as well as how he used many different sources in the book including Scripture, science, philosophy, Greek mythology, and stories from his clients, students, and personal stories. One unique thing about Dr. Froh that many people may not know is that he loves listening to Christian rap music. In fact, his favorite artist, NF, is actually highlighted in Chapter 5 of his new book. Connect with Jeffrey Froh: Faculty Website | Faculty Profile | Thrive BookConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/762135891 Interests and Specializations Dr. Jeffrey Froh is primarily interested in Positive Psychology. He studies gratitude in children and adolescents and has almost 60 publications on positive psychology, happiness, and well-being. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Psychology (1999); St. Joseph’s University, Patchogue, NY.Master of Science (MS), School Psychology (2002); St. John’s University, Queens, NY.Doctor of Psychology (PsyD), School Psychology (2004); St. John’s University, Queens, NY. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Jeffrey J. Froh Books on AmazonDr. Jeffrey J. Froh at Greater Good MagazinePositive Psychology with Jeff Froh (Video)Scholars, Mentors & Teachers: Jeffrey Froh (Video) Podcast Transcript 00:00:14 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in Psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Jeff Froh to the show. Dr. Froh is a Professor in the Department of Psychology at Hofstra University in New York. He is a New York certified school psychologist and a licensed psychologist. Dr Froh earned his PhD in School Psychology from St. John's University. He is one of the leaders in the rapidly expanding field of positive psychology. In fact, he served as an associate director, I'm sorry, Associate Editor of the Journal of Positive Psychology and has served on the board of many professional journals. Today, we will learn more about his academic and professional journey and discuss his new book, “Thrive: 10 Commandments for 20-Somethings to Live the Best-Life-Possible.” Dr. Froh, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:16 JeffThanks for having me, Bradley. 00:01:17 BradleyWell, I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to walk through some of your journey. And I talk about academic and professional journey because you have a unique journey and I wanted to make sure our audience shared that with us, or you shared it with us as well. First of all, can you remember the first time you became interested in psychology? 00:01:38 JeffSo, I mean, for my whole life I've been very drawn to people who excel at whatever it is they do, you know what I mean? So, whoever is optimal, I'm looking at you. I'm trying to study it. I'm trying to figure it out. Like, what can I learn from you, you know, how can I try to go to the next level based on what you're doing, you know? So then when I went to St. Joseph’s though, for undergrad, I actually ended up majoring, starting out as, majoring in sociology and minoring in psychology. Again, so there's that. You know, I'm studying people and I'm trying to figure that part out. But I also love the big picture stuff, you know? And for me, sociology kind of gave me that and I just really connected at the time with my sociology professors. They were just absolutely phenomenal, you know? But then where psych, kind of where I started, majoring in psych, minoring in social that flip happened actually because of my dad. So, my dad is a very blue-collar guy. He worked for the phone company. He worked, you know, on the wires, you know, outside kind of thing, very practical. And he was just like. Jeff, what are you gonna do with a degree in sociology. And I didn't even realize that I'm being taught by sociologists. So, I was just like, I don't know, he's like, well, why don't you major in Psych, minor in Sociology and so just so you can “hang a shingle.” 00:02:54 BradleyRight. 00:02:56 JeffAnd I was like, alright, makes sense. So, then that's where the psychology focus, you know, kind of developed from that point. 00:03:01 BradleyYeah, and, and you already mentioned you went to St. Joseph’s University. How did you decide on that undergraduate, you know, institution for your bachelor's degree? I, I think you received your bachelor's degree and then you eventually went to St. John's University in Queens for your Graduate School but did you, can you think back of why you selected St. Joseph’s College for your undergrad? 00:03:23 JeffYeah, a couple things. One, again, just from a practical perspective, I'm more of a homebody, you know, so I just honestly wasn't ready to kind of go out and venture off, you know, so that that became part of it. But really the big thing was I was looking for a small teaching college. And that's exactly what St Joes is, you know, they're just so phenomenal at nurturing students, you know, taking an interest in them. And that's what I needed as a young person. I think everybody does, you know, regardless of your age, anyway. And that's what they provided; you know what I mean? And it's one of those like if I didn't go there and I, this sounds so dramatic, but like if I did not go there, you and I wouldn't be talking right now. You know, there's no way. I mean, you know, Dr.s, you know, Paul Ginnetty, George Giuliani and, and one guy particular Professor William Thieben changed my life. Again, it sounds so insane, but I'm so sincere with you on that one, particularly Mr. Thieben. So that's who I went there for, that's who was there, and I'm just so grateful for that decision. 00:04:28 BradleyWell, thank you. A lot of guests do usually mention some people that made some important impact on their lives and help them in the right direction. As I mentioned, you went to St. John's University in Queens in New York for Graduate School. I'll ask the same question. How did you decide that? Because a lot of our guests, when they're in undergrad, when they decide, hey, I want to go to Graduate School, where do I begin? How do I decide, especially if I'm interested in psychology. So, bring us back to kind of your thought process of did you apply to other schools? If so, what were kind of the procedures and, and what did you go through to finally decide on St.

33: Jada Philips, PhD – Encouraging Advice from a Licensed Psychologist and Owner of Reserved For You Psychological Services Sep 12, 2022

Dr. Jada Philips originally wanted to be a lawyer. After receiving her Bachelor of Arts in Criminal Justice at Mount Mary University in Milwaukee, WI, she moved to New York with her then boyfriend, now husband, with the idea of going to Columbia University to become a criminal lawyer. Circumstances changed so she adjusted and used her interest in psychology and her psychology classes toward earning her Master of Arts in Forensic Psychology at John Jay College in NY. Dr. Philips describes this part of her journey as going with the flow. In this podcast, Dr. Jada Philips (known as “Dr. J”) recalls her academic and professional journey leading up to her opening her own private practice in New Jersey called “Reserved For You Psychological Services.” She shares her experiences and thoughts in hopes of helping those interested in the field of psychology or wanting to become a licensed psychologist and opening their own business. She admits there were some challenges along the way but said “I have pushed beyond what people said I could do.” She shares some of the challenges associated with starting your own private practice. She also discusses how and why she earned two master’s degrees and why she decided to receive her PhD in Clinical Psychology from Walden University. Throughout the podcast, Dr. J offers practical advice to those who are seeking a graduate degree in psychology and those wanting to become a licensed psychologist. For example, she states “definitely speak with enrollment staff about the whole licensing requirements for [your] state. Find out how many hours you need. Find out how the school assists in getting those hours or having connections to other businesses or other mental health professionals that can help get those hours.” Dr. J also recalls how many clinical hours were required to receive her New York psychologist license and how important it is to find the postdoc opportunities and those people who can sign off on your hours. When asked if she had any additional advice for those wanting to break into the field of psychology or open their own private practice, she offered these encouraging words “if you’re willing to do it, step out on your own” and “I would say do it if you want it. If that’s where your interest is at, don’t let anything hold you back.” She also shared that she joined a group on Facebook called “Clinicians of Color [in Private Practice]” that helped her overcome some of the challenges of thinking through and starting her business. She said that there are many BIPOC (Black, Indigenous, and People of Color) therapists in the group and many people who own their own private practice who share their information and stories which helped her and can help others wanting to open their own psychology private practice. Near the end of our discussion, I learned one thing that is unique about Dr. J, she loves giraffes. When she was younger, she remembers everybody liking a certain animal, usually one of the common animals like a cheetah or elephant. She loves giraffes because they are so unique and different. With this in mind, I believe she would enjoy, and agree with, the following advice “Don’t be afraid to stick your neck out and reach for your goals.” Connect with Jada Philips: LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/748852931 Interests and Specializations Dr. Jada Philips has over 14 years of mental health experience and she specializes in individual therapy, testing and assessments, and private consultations. She develops individualized therapy treatments for people suffering from trauma, grief, anxiety, depression, and loss. Her treatment approach is centered on the person as a whole. She also has a Diversity, Equity and Inclusion in the Workplace Certificate. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Criminal Justice (2005); Mount Mary University, Milwaukee, WI.Master of Arts (MA), Forensic Psychology (2008); John Jay College (CUNY), New York, NY.Master of Arts (MA), Forensic Mental Health Counseling (2010); John Jay College (CUNY), New York, NY.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Clinical Psychology (2015); Walden University, Minneapolis, MN.Post-Doctoral Psychology Respecialization Certificate, Forensic Psychology (2017); Walden University, Minneapolis, MN. Other Sources and Links of Interest 12 Week Boundaries Group with Dr. Jada PhilipsReserved for You Telehealth in New York and New JerseyClinicians of Color Podcast Transcript 00:00:12 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Jada Phillips to the show. Dr. Phillips is a mother, wife, Veteran, psychologist, and entrepreneur. She is the owner and CEO of Reserved For You Psychological Services in New Jersey. She received her BA in Criminal justice at Mount Mary University, and she received 2 master's degrees from John Jay College (one in Forensic Psychology and the other in Forensic Mental Health Counseling). She received her PhD in Clinical Psychology from Walden University. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey and discuss the joys and challenges of starting, and running, your own business. Dr. Phillips, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:12 JadaThank you for having me, I'm excited to be here today. 00:01:14 BradleyI'm excited to talk to you as well. I see that you received your bachelor's degree in criminal justice, and you were a litigation paralegal at two different firms. So, tell me, what sparked your interest in psychology? 00:01:30 JadaWell, I originally wanted to be a lawyer, actually. So, when I finished my bachelors at Mount Mary, I moved to New York to be with my then boyfriend, but now husband. So, when I moved the idea was to go to Columbia University and I’ll be this prestigious lawyer, criminal lawyer that, that didn't quite pan pan out the way I planned so come, I don't know, I think it was a year into being in New York, I wasn't ready yet for law school, so I was looking at other options, other avenues. I found John Jay which is the School of Criminal Justice. More than thrilled to kind of go there. And originally 'cause, I wanted to be like this FBI agent, not after lawyer, but I want to be this FBI agent idea was like to do crime scenes. Like if I can't do the lawyer, let's do crime scenes. So, what happened was I didn't have enough science credits to do forensic science. However, I did have psychology classes from my undergrad that I could do forensic psychology. So that's how I kind of got more into the psychology field and then it just kind of bloomed from there. That's kind of that journey. It's kind of like following, just following where things, go with the flow. 00:02:55 BradleyWell, it sounds like it. You kind of addressed. My next question is how did you end up at John? Is it John K college? 00:03:03 JadaJohn, John J. 00:03:04 BradleyOK. John Jay College and was it more for the program or was it just convenience that you were able to apply some of your psychology to that to go ahead and go toward your Master of Arts in Forensic Psychology? 00:03:19 JadaUhm, I think it was more trying to stay in this criminal justice forensic field 'cause I figured, still in my mind, at some point to be a lawyer, criminal lawyer. So, I figured, at least for now, to stay somewhere in the field and then eventually attempt for law school which I did attempt and then I went a different direction. 00:03:43 BradleyOK, well I'm impressed. You actually must have loved your, your first master's degree because you decided, hey, I just finished this, I'm going to go back and get my second master's in forensic mental health counseling. So why did you go back to earn a second master's degree? 00:03:59 JadaThat's another funny story. Uhm, so when we, I was in my last semester of the forensic psychology program where they introduced this forensic mental health counseling program. And they explained it to us 'cause, the forensic psychology does not come with a license. So, when you're done work wise is not as easy finding employment more maybe in the academic fields teaching, but they introduced this mental counseling as something where you can get hours towards licensure and become a counselor. So, my last semester they offered for a lot of us to switch over to that program. And they're only going to allow like a 12-credit transfer and I'm like, you're crazy, I'm about to graduate, I'm not gonna start all over again. So, I graduated and then they offered for us to transfer all our credits. So technically I went back with only maybe I think 10 or 12 credits to do 3 classes, something like that. So really, just going like opportunity, get an additional degree, get the license to actually be a counselor. And then it's also like, to me, it was like a free degree. Three classes and then I get another degree. So, I took a couple of friends with me. I think three or four of us went back and finished out for that second masters. 00:05:23 BradleyThat sounds like a sweet deal, and I'm glad that you held out you that negotiation tactic worked you said, are you crazy? I'm not going to do that. And then you go ahead and get your degree and then they come back, oh, we want you back, so come on. No, that's good. That's a sweet deal. At what point did you know that you wanted to continue your graduate career 'cause after that you attended Walden University for your PhD in clinical psychology. So, at what point did you know during that second master's program that, hey, I want to continue my graduate work? 00:05:55 JadaWell,

32: Christina B. Gee, PhD – Associate Professor Recalls the Significant People, and Experiences, which Led Her to a Career in Psychology Sep 07, 2022

As a high school student at the Bronx High School of Science, Dr. Christina B. Gee remembers being focused primarily on math and science because they didn’t offer any psychology classes. She recalls that her interest in psychology only came after she started college at Cornell University in Ithaca, NY. In this podcast interview, Dr. Christina B. Gee shares her academic and professional journey by discussing the fortunate events that led her to become aware of, and interested in, the field of psychology. In addition to discussing how she searched for psychology graduate programs in Illinois, and why she chose the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign for her master’s and PhD in clinical/community psychology, Dr. Gee also shares the significant experiences and people that helped shape her life and the direction of her research. Throughout our discussion, Dr. Gee offers her thoughts, experiences, and advice regarding topics important to graduate students including finding the right internship and things to consider when searching for an internship, research and lab experience and how to find these opportunities, and how to decide if you are truly interested in research before applying to PhD programs. She also offers advice to those who are not sure what psychology career path to take (e.g., academic path or practitioner path). During her last year at Cornell, Dr. Gee realized that she wanted to attend graduate school and she also realized that she didn’t have any research experience, so she began volunteering in a developmental psychology lab. She wanted to get more experience to be competitive for graduate school so she began cold emailing many different professors in New York, mostly NYU, to see if she could volunteer or work in their labs. She recalls that most of them never returned her emails, fortunately she got lucky and one of them did reply to her email. Professor Mary O’Brien, who was in the clinical psychology program, focused on the influence of marital conflict on child adjustment. Dr. Gee states “it was just very lucky for me that I got linked up with this lab and that really shaped the direction of my research for years to come.” Dr. Gee is now the Principal Investigator of a research laboratory at GW called the Diverse Family Relationships Lab where they work on a lot of different types of projects. The Lab “is interested in relationship process and adjustment for couples, parents, and families who are diverse in terms of race, ethnicity, culture, and socio-economic status.” Some of the research studies the group has already completed include an Asian American Help-Seeking Study and Young Parents Study. They are currently working on the Unified Parenting Project which is “a study of coparenting processes in non-cohabiting parents. This study is also piloting the Coparenting Check-up, which is a free two-session assessment of how parents work together to support each other in raising their child.” As an Associate Professor in the Clinical/Community Psychology program in the Department of Psychological and Brain Sciences at The George Washington University, she explains why students should consider attending their program if they “really want to attend a clinical program that doesn’t just give lip service to diversity” because “diversity is really infused into all aspects of our program.” One thing that you may not know about Dr. Christina B. Gee is that she grew up in a restaurant family. Her father worked in the restaurant industry from the time he was a teenager until his late 40’s. In fact, both her mom and dad are really great cooks. Because of this, she really loves to cook and admits “I probably spend about 50% of my free time thinking about food, planning to cook, or actually cooking.” She says, “our vacations are typically planned around finding the best foods, and it’s really a plus that our sons are foodies as well.” Connect with Christina B. Gee: LinkedIn | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/747129939 Interests and Specializations Dr. Christina B. Gee studies the influence of romantic and family relationship across stressful life transitions. She has examined interracial romantic relationships, intimate partner violence, and parent and coparenting involvement impacts on children and older children. Some of her newer research is focused on mental health help-seeking behavior in Asian and Asian American college students and emerging adults. Education Bachelor of Science (BS), Human Development and Family Studies; Cornell University, Ithaca, NY.Master of Arts (MA), Clinical/Community Psychology; University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Champaign, IL.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Clinical/Community Psychology; University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Champaign, IL. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Christina B. Gee - ResearchGateGW Psychology Dept. on FacebookGW Psychology Dept. on TwitterDiverse Family Relationships Lab on TwitterThe Bronx High School of Science Podcast Transcript 00:00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Christina Gee to this show. Dr. Gee is an Associate Professor in the Clinical/Community Psychology program in the Department of Psychological and Brain Sciences at the George Washington University. She earned her bachelor's degree in Human Development and Family Studies from Cornell University. And she earned her PhD in Clinical/Community Psychology from the University of Illinois. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey and discuss what it's like to be an associate professor at the George Washington University, as well as hear her advice to those interested in the field of psychology. Dr. Gee, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:09 ChristinaThanks, Brad. Thank you for having me. 00:01:11 BradleyWell, I appreciate taking the time out of your busy schedule to talk with us. I am actually excited to learn a little bit more about your journey. Before we get started, though, I wanted to find out if you could remember the first time you became interested in psychology. 00:01:28 ChristinaUhm, that's a great question. I went to high school at the Bronx High School of Science, and that's a specialized public high school in New York City whereby its name you could guess that math and science were emphasized, though we didn't have psychology classes offered, I didn't actually know it was a field of study. So, my interest in psychology really only came after I started college. 00:01:53 BradleyOK. And I see that I mentioned that you went to Cornell University for a bachelor's degree in human development and family studies. When you were in college, what kind of spurred your interest? Did you go into a class, or you found a study? Tell me about that a little bit. 00:02:11 ChristinaWhen I applied to Cornell, I had to specify a major, and so, uhm, I would like to say I, I had an epiphany that psychology was my passion, but really, in some ways it came by process of elimination. So, I applied to Cornell, because Cornell has both public colleges and private colleges. I'm not sure if everyone is aware of that, but being a New York State resident, I could apply to the public colleges and pay New York State tuition at them. So, since our family didn't have a lot of money, I aimed towards one of those colleges and when I was comparing them, um, I thought, OK, well, human ecology, agricultural and life sciences, or industrial and labor relations. Which one of those do I think is the fit? And so, I said, well, I like humans over animals and buildings, so I'm going to go with humans. So, I went with human ecology and then looking at the majors within human ecology. One of them I just didn't have much interest in design and environmental analysis. There was another on textiles and fashion, and one on nutritional sciences. This used to, communicology used to be at the School of Home Economics previously. And so, I thought, OK, well, human development and family studies sounds probably closest to what I'm interested in. The other one might have been human service studies, which I understood to be like social work. So, I was kind of picking between two of those, but I, you know, threw a dart and went with human development and family studies. I mean, I figured I liked children. I could imagine myself as a teacher, so I figured I would try that. And so, when I. 00:03:56 BradleyOK. 00:03:58 ChristinaStarted that, then I actually found that I did have genuine interest in in it. 00:04:03 BradleyNow, you mentioned something that I sometimes ask some of my guests. You know, I, I interview guests that are within the academic world and then those that are, have their private practice or social workers. And so, it sounded like very early on you kind of had an idea that you wanted to teach and you and you kind of found that interesting as well, so. Walk us through why didn't you select something else? Or did that kind of just, you've always been interested in teaching? 00:04:31 ChristinaUhm, I actually didn't know that I was that interested in teaching. When I thought about teaching, I actually had thought about younger children. And teaching maybe elementary, but while I was at Cornell, I was able to do both preschool student teaching as part of the major and also a TA-ship unpaid, just volunteer for a professor, uhm, in the class that I had taken previously and really enjoyed. And so, through that I realized, oh well, maybe this is a potentially viable option in the future, but it was really more just in the back of my mind.

31: Moshe Ratson, MBA, MS MFT, LMFT – Founder and Executive Director of sprial2grow Marriage and Family Therapy Reflects on His Unique Journey Aug 29, 2022

Moshe Ratson was born and raised in Israel but always wanted to be in New York. In this podcast, Moshe discusses his academic and professional journey which eventually led him to become an innovative and well-known psychotherapist, business consultant, and executive coach in New York. He recalls what made him gravitate toward psychology and admits that learning about all of the available psychology programs, schools, degrees, and career paths was “pretty confusing” but explains that once he knew he wanted to have a private practice in marriage and family therapy, the choices became clear to him. Moshe earned his Bachelor of Science in Marketing and International Trade, his Master in Business Administration, and his Master of Science in Marriage and Family Therapy/Psychotherapy all within New York. He then became a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) and clinical member of the American Association of Marriage and Family Therapy (AAMFT). His experience serving as a Vice President of Sales at a Fortune 500 Company along with his experience in marketing, business, coaching and consulting led him to start his own practice. Today, Moshe is the Founder and Executive Director of spiral2grow Marriage and Family Therapy in New York and has an anger management book called “Anger Is Your Compass.” During our discussion, Moshe shares what colleges in New York for psychology and therapy he attended and why he chose them. He also discusses some of the requirements associated with becoming a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) in New York including how many clinical hours were needed back in 2006 when he received his license. He discusses some of the philosophies and methodologies used in the field of psychology and which ones he uses in his practice. Finally, he talks about his practice, spiral2grow Marriage and Family Therapy, and how it has evolved through the years and how it is different from other psychological practices. Around the 32-minute mark in the podcast, Moshe offers specific advice for those wanting to start their own business or their own practice. One aspect of his practice focuses on sports psychology, and he admits that his experience as a professional basketball player helps him connect with his clients especially while working with NBA players, NFL players, and Olympians. Moshe was also a basketball coach, a secret service expert, and served in the army as a military officer. Connect with Moshe Ratson: LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Youtube | Website ContactConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/744252402 Interests and Specializations Moshe Ratson uses a personal counseling approach that incorporates integrative psychotherapy that draws from a variety of methodological approaches. His areas of expertise include marriage and couples therapy, premarital counseling, infidelity counseling, anger management and emotional management, self-esteem and confidence as well as many types of coaching, consulting, and self-confidence and assertiveness training. Education Export Management Certificate (1989); Braude Academic College, Karmiel, Israel.Bachelor of Science (BS), Marketing and International Trade (1992); Fashion Institute of Technology, NYC, NY.Master in Business Administration (MBA), Management and Entrepreneurship (2002); Baruch College, New York, NY.Master of Science (MS), Marriage and Family Therapy/Psychotherapy (2006); Iona University, New Rochelle, NY. Other Sources and Links of Interest Moshe Ratson at PsychologyTodayMoshe Ratson at WikiHowMoshe Ratson at GoodTherapy Podcast Transcript 00:00:12 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Moshe Ratson to the show. Moshe has an MBA in Management Entrepreneurship and a master's degree in marriage and family therapy/psychotherapy. He is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) and is the Founder and Executive Director of spiral2grow Marriage Family Therapy in New York, NY. Today, we will learn more about his academic and professional journey and discuss how he turned his MBA, MS, LMFT and sales and marketing experience into a successful business. Moshe, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:03 MosheThank you very much, Bradley, for having me. 00:01:05 BradleyWell, to start off, I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule. I know our audience is really going to enjoy hearing about your journey. In addition to your experience in business, sales, marketing, you have been a professional basketball player, a basketball coach, a military officer, and a Secret Service expert. What made you gravitate toward psychology? 00:01:29 MosheUh, basically we can go back to history. My history. But as far as I remember myself, I always, always. I was intrigued by human psychology sociology, the process of the of personal growth and, uh, you know how you know things can change and especially in regards to the personal element. And then, you know, remember myself reading books very early on, very, you know, at very young age about love, philosophy, uh, how to be better. And yes, it's it seems like, you know, it's innate part of, of what I love. 00:02:13 BradleyIt seems like it's part of your, your genes and your makeup and who you are. You have a variety of educational experiences, including earning your certificate in export management at Braude…is it Braude or Braude academic college? 00:02:29 MosheIt's, it's art or art. He basically the, you know school, which is it is, yeah. 00:02:32 BradleyOK. All right. OK. And then you received your bachelor's degree in marketing and international trade at the Fashion Institute of Technology. So, tell me more about your experiences earning your export management certificate and your bachelor's degree. 00:02:50 MosheYeah, it's a. It's, you know, I, I always wanted to study business, uh, yeah, uh, not exactly I can tell you more about it, but at one point I had a friend that uh, that uh made me follow a particular path which he recommended me. And, and the path was pretty simplistic. I mean, you go to art to the School of Management for a kind of international trade and then later on, I mean transfer this credit to FIT. And I always wanted to be in New York, and I thought, well, that could be a great opportunity just to do that, to transfer the credit and have my bachelor's degree in business in, uh, in New York. And that's what I've done. 00:03:37 BradleyWhere did you grow up, Moshe? 00:03:39 MosheI was born and grew up in Israel. 00:03:42 BradleyOK. And then when did you get to the United States? 00:03:47 MosheThe first time it was in 1990. I was here for a couple of years, left back to Israel and came back. To permanently until today ‘97. 00:04:00 BradleyOK. And then you when you first came back or when you did return, did you have you always been in New York or have? You been in other states as well? 00:04:07 MosheYeah, yeah. Always in New York, that's, it's a, it's, it's, it's a beautiful place. I mean, I mean, I know it's can, can be crazy place for many, but I love it. Took me a while to get used to it to be honest. 00:04:19 BradleyWell, as you may find out or have already found out, anytime that you travel across the United States, Southeast, West, and North, you're going to have different cultures that you experience as well, so. 00:04:31 MosheThat's true. 00:04:31 BradleyI, I know that when you went to FIT and then after that you attended Baruch College for your MBA, were you considering other schools at that time or why did you choose that particular college? 00:04:44 MosheThe Baruch College, you know, I had a kind of like a professor that I really knew that you really recommended me that program. You know, at that particular time I was thinking for short time about the NYU, Columbia and some kind of high more high prestige public school but, at that particular stage I, I really wanted was focusing on having the degree of the MBA and I know it's a good program. I already by that time I was much older, much more experienced. I had enough business experience, you know, on my belt. So, I just want to be honest, just probably the title then I, I love learning, so I said OK, let me do that. 00:05:25 BradleyWell, it sounds like you love learning, because after that you went on for your Master of Science in marriage and family therapy/psychotherapy at Iona University. At what point did you kind of consider, hey, I've had enough of this business, I, I know this, I know the sales, I know the marketing. I want to kind of switch my, my focus a little bit. So at what point did you know that you wanted to earn your Master of Science in in marriage and family therapy? 00:05:52 MosheYes, so, so. And again, it, it was a process. Of course, it was a process. And, uh, I start to contemplate more toward, you know, my studies of my MBA. Uh, the, but the reality is that I, I forgot almost about it. But later on, I, I started to I remembered that immediately when I was in Israel, after the army, I applied to study psychology in Tel Aviv University, and I was rejected. You know, I, I was pretty good student, but for whatever reason it was one of the most difficult programs to be accepted. And here you go. I mean, you find yourself back into something that really intrinsically was part of you, and you wanted to do that. It didn't work out, but I came here, like I say in the backdoor. Even more experience, much better, more much more mature, with much greater skills to utilize in my own psychological practice. So, I, I think, you know, whatever life presented you, you know,

30: Steven O. Roberts, PhD – Recently Promoted and Tenured Associate Professor of Psychology Shares his Journey, Experiences, and Advice Aug 22, 2022

Imagine folding clothes in your New York apartment anxiously awaiting the vote regarding your promotion and tenure at Stanford University. Dr. Steven O. Roberts was on sabbatical this past year and recalls seeing a missed call from the Chair of the department of psychology. In this podcast, Dr. Roberts shares his academic and professional journey leading up to the point where he recently received the news that he was granted tenure and promoted to Associate Professor of Psychology at Stanford University. When recalling how he found the field of psychology, Dr. Roberts states “the field of psychology just resonated with me” and “I’ve always loved just human behavior and, you know, why people do the things they do? Why do I do the things that I do?” During our discussion, Dr. Roberts shares his experiences at Borough of Manhattan Community College and how he received a scholarship to attend New York University where he received his bachelor's degree in applied psychology. Interestingly, he wasn’t planning on applying for the scholarship, however, a good mentor of his kept encouraging him to apply. Throughout this podcast interview, Dr. Roberts reveals that if it wasn’t for all of his friends and mentors, he wouldn’t be where he is now. During his senior year at NYU, he participated in a research program at University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill called Moore Undergraduate Research Apprentice Program (MURAP) which gave him an opportunity to work with Enrique Neblett who received his PhD from Michigan. He explains that while he was working with Dr. Neblett for 2-3 months, he had a taste of the “Blue Michigan Kool-Aid” and realized that all of the research he wanted to do was coming out of Michigan. He also recalls that Michigan produces more black PhDs than any university in the country, except for Howard University, which is an HBCU. Therefore, our discussion transitioned to how he ended up at the University of Michigan. After sharing some fond memories of attending the University of Michigan and advice for those interested in the field of psychology, he shares how he found the opportunity to work as an Assistant Professor of Psychology at Stanford University immediately following graduation. Among other things, he shared a resource that he looked at and refreshed every day called Psychology Job Wiki which is a crowdsourced site that provides information to potential applicants about the open academic job opportunities in the field of psychology. Throughout our discussion, Dr. Roberts shared useful suggestions and advice for students interested in psychology and as well as advice for those beginning their professional career in the field of psychology including making it a priority to spend time writing every day. He also shares what a “typical” day looks like as an Associate Professor of Psychology at Stanford University. Though his days may vary, he admits that the thing that is consistent across all of his days is that he writes every day, typically in the morning. He states “before all the other stuff that I have to do that’s going to take away my time, I know that for me, writing is the most important, and my favorite part of the job.” When asked what his favorite term, principle, or theory was, he stated that the fundamental attribution error, which was coined by Lee Ross who was in his department and who passed away last year, applies to many aspects of life. Later in the podcast, Dr. Roberts also said that he enjoys and values a principle called “The Overview Effect” which is the phenomenon which describes the psychological effects astronauts experience after traveling in space. Dr. Roberts is a unique individual with an interesting journey to share. I hope you enjoy the podcast and I can’t help but think that the world would be a better place if all of us experienced “The Overview Effect.” Connect with Dr. Steven O. Roberts: Faculty PageConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/741885168 Interests and Specializations Dr. Steven Roberts has always been interested in race and racism. Therefore, much of his research revolves around these topics by looking at the psychological bases of racism and also how to dismantle them. He has examined how people think about groups, stereotypes, and group boundaries and hierarchies in children and adults. Education Associate of Arts (AA), Liberal Arts (2009); Borough of Manhattan Community College, New York City, NY.Bachelor of Science (BS), Applied Psychology (2012); New York University, New York City, NY.Master of Science (MS), Psychology (2014); University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Psychology (2017); University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Steven O. Roberts at Google ScholarDr. Steven O. Roberts at ResearchGateDr. Steven O. Roberts Social Concepts Lab at Stanford UniversityDr. Steven O. Roberts interview at mindCORE Podcast Transcription 00:00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Steven Roberts to the show. Dr. Roberts is an Associate Professor of psychology at Stanford University. He received his bachelor's degree in applied psychology from New York University and his doctorate from the University of Michigan. Today, we will learn more about his academic and professional journey and discuss what it's actually like to be an Associate Professor at Stanford University, as well as hear his advice for those interested in the field of psychology. Dr. Roberts, welcome to our podcast. 00:00:58 StevenThank you very much for having me and it's gonna be fun. 00:01:02 BradleyI appreciate it. I'm looking forward to it. So, tell me, kind of high level, what influenced you to pursue a major, first a major, in psychology and then, secondly, a career in psychology? 00:01:14 StevenYeah, so, uh, step back a little bit because before I got my bachelors at NYU, I got an associate's degree from the Borough of Manhattan Community College and which is in the CUNY system in the city, City University of New York. And they had a program at the time. I don't know if it's still around, but it's a program called CCTOP with the Community College Transfer Opportunity Program. And basically, what it was is if you're a Community College student with a GPA of at least 3.5, then they would give you a scholarship to go to NYU, to transfer to NYU and major in one of six majors. Skipping over so many details, I was not going to apply to it, and I had a really great, a really great mentor who encouraged me to apply and I ended up applying. Was fortunately admitted and the majors were like, uhm, I think English, sociology, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, psychology. I thought psychology seemed interesting. So, I chose psychology, and that's how I ended up there. 00:02:32 BradleyIsn't it interesting how just one little change in direction of your life, uh, you find your niche so to speak? And so, thank you for that background. I did see that I didn't include that in the introduction, but I didn't know that they gave you a scholarship to go to NYU. So, you ended up going to NYU you for your bachelor’s in applied psychology and tell us a little bit more about why you, you said you chose psychology, but tell me why you elected to go that route instead of a different route. 00:03:04 StevenYeah, I think honestly, I think I have uhm, even at the Community College and beforehand, I think I had often been really interested by psychology. And I've always loved just human behavior and, you know, why people do the things they do? Why do I do the things that I do. And actually, you know the, the further I go along and the further I go down my career, the more I realize why I am here that it's always kind of been there, I just wasn't always aware of it. Uhm, but uhm, when I was at NYU and when I started there, I think the field of psychology just resonated with me more by virtue of my just kind of interest in humans. And I was also really specifically interested in inequality and racism that some of the other major opportunities that I had like English, which of course is very relevant. But at the time. I just didn't. Psychology just spoke to me a bit more directly, so that's how I ended up in that path. 00:04:15 BradleyAnd we're going to talk a little bit more about your topics of research later on, but it was evident when I looked at your Vita that you were definitely looking at inequality and racism and now in into groups and how people perceive different groups and, and, and that sort of stuff. So, we'll get to that in a second, but kind of following your chronological, you know, journey, a bachelor’s degree and then you went to receive a master's and your PhD and I, I think it's just the master's of science and en passant, in passing, on your way to receive that PhD and you went to the University of Michigan. How did you decide after going to NYU, how did you end up going to U of M? 00:04:56 StevenOK, so the back story, another very fortunate moment. There are actually two reasons, but in my, in my senior year at NYU, I participated in this research program at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, and it's this program called MURAP, which is kind of like McNair or SRAP is another one Summer Research Opportunity Program where you go to university for two to three months. You work very closely with a professor and do a research project with them. Uhm, and I worked with this really great guy who's now still a really good mentor and friend, Enrique Neblett, and he has a Michigan PhD. So,

29: Michael Pipich, LMFT – Nationally Renowned Speaker on Bipolar Disorder Discusses his Book and Licensure Requirements in the State of California Aug 15, 2022

Michael Pipich has always been interested in the field of psychology. As long as he can remember, he has found people fascinating and always wondered about their personalities, quirks, and the how and why behind their behaviors and interactions with others. He recalls one weekend when his older brother came home from college with a psych 101 book, and he spent the whole weekend looking through his book and admitted that was his first “act of academic nerdiness.” Like his older brother, he applied for admission to Loyola Marymount University and when he got accepted, he declared psychology as his major right away. Michael has been in the field of psychology for over 30 years and has treated patients with a wide range of mental disorders and relationship problems. Michael currently works as a marriage and family therapist at the Colorado Center for Clinical Excellence which has two locations in Colorado (one in Denver and the other in DTC/Greenwood Village). He has been featured on television, radio, and in print media on a variety of topics and has become a national speaker and writer on bipolar disorder. He book, “Owning Bipolar: How Patients and Families Can Take Control of Bipolar Disorder” (Citadel Press, 2018) has become an important book and reference in the field of bipolar treatment. In this podcast interview, Michael opens up about why he wrote the book and recalls his academic and professional journey in hopes that others will benefit from his advice and suggestions regarding selecting psychology graduate schools and programs. Michael also discusses the licensure requirements in the state of California regarding getting your Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT) license (which used to be called the Marriage Family Child Care [MFCC] license). He explains that it really starts with the graduate school you select and attend. In his case, the program at California State, Fullerton provided the classes necessary for the MFCC (now LMFT license). Beyond that, he had to accrue over 3,000 plus supervised hours for which any licensed clinician (PhD, LCSW, MD, etc.) could sign off on. Then, he had to pass a written examination and then pass an oral examination. To learn more about his experience getting his LMFT in California, tune in to our discussion around 22 minutes into the podcast interview. Michael enjoys music, playing guitar, and has even dabbled in music composition. He also enjoys the outdoors (hiking, skiing, water sports) and believes staying active is important for a healthy life, especially if you are in a profession where you are helping people. He has been married for 32 years and has two adult children who he really loves and admires. Connect with Michael Pipich, LMFT: LinkedIn | TwitterConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/739569482 Interests and Specializations Michael Pipich treats a wide range of mental disorders and has been working with families, adults, and adolescents for over 30 years in office and via online teletherapy. His therapy style is highly interactive, and his background involves using psychodynamic, psychoanalytic, and existential theories to better understand and discuss presenting concerns with his patients. He has become known for his work with bipolar disorder and has written a well-known book on the topic. Education Bachelor of Science (BS), Psychology (1983); Loyola Marymount University, Los Angeles, CA.Master of Science (MS), Clinical/Community Psychology (1986); California State University, Fullerton, Fullerton, CA. Other Sources and Links of Interest Michael Pipich, LMFT at the Colorado Center for Clinical ExcellenceMichael Pipich, LMFT at Psychology TodayOwning Bipolar: Psychology Today Blog Breakthrough with Michael Pipich (Podcast)Owning Bipolar Disorder with Michael Pipich, LMFT (Podcast) Podcast Transcription 00:00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Michael Pipich to the show. Michael received his bachelor’s degree in psychology from Loyola Marymount University and his master’s degree in clinical/community psychology from California State University, Fullerton. Michael has been in the field of psychology for more than 30 years. Currently he is a licensed marriage and family therapist at the Colorado Center for Clinical Excellence. Today, we will learn more about his academic and professional journey and discuss his book and here his advice for those interested in the field of psychology. Michael, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:03 MichaelThank you, Brad, for inviting me today. 00:01:05 BradleyI appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to talk with us. We're looking forward to hearing a little bit more about your history and some of your experience and you you've had some interesting experiences as well, but to start us off, can you remember when you first became interested in psychology? 00:01:23 MichaelActually, yeah, I. I think in in looking back it's probably something that I was always interested. In in in a sense. Even before I, I knew that, right? Because even as a as, as, as a child, I just always found people fascinating and adults interesting. In particular, when my parents would have their friends over or whatever you know, it's just kind of interested in their personalities and their quirks and the and how they spoke and interacted and whatever. So, you know, reflecting back, I think it was something that was always kind of maybe the part of my I don't know DNA if you will but in terms of a field of study, I do recall my older brother six years older than me coming home from, from college, and he went to Loyola Marymount as well, which is part of the reason why? How I wound up there. But he brought to his psych 101 book home over weekend. 00:02:18 BradleyOh, ok. 00:02:19 MichaelAnd uhm, I, I guess you know, it was my first. Uh, act of academic nerdiness. I spent the weekend looking through his psych 101 book. I don't know if he did, but I did that weekend and I just found it all a bit fascinating. I remember like the section on perception and the uh, the, the images, that kind of go back and forth and. And already looking at all this stuff and I'm. Like boy, you can really study this and, uhm. Now the next question, how do you make money doing, doing something with that’s a more involved kind of endeavor to figure out, but uh, I really kind of sort of fell in love with it and, and really wanted to pursue it and prior to that I was kind of interested in the law and a bit and through high school I thought maybe I would study history and, and, and then apply for law school. But when I applied for admission to Loyola Marymount, I. I you know. And got accept that I declared psychology right away, so that's how that happened. 00:03:27 BradleyWell, you kind of led me to my next question and you almost answered it a little bit with your brother going to Loyola. Is that the main reason why you went, or did you look at other schools too before deciding to go to Loyola? Tell us a little bit about that process and how you made that decision. 00:03:44 MichaelSure, well I was I was more familiar with it because of, of, of his attending Loyola and I kind of had took an opportunity while I was in high school to take a day from high school and go there. And kind of follow him around and, uhm, absorb the college experience and that was a little shocking. But I went to a Catholic High School. I went to public school K through 8 and then a Catholic High School. So, I wanted to kind of continue sort of the Catholic education kind of tradition as well, and I grew up in Orange County, California, so I also didn't want to be too far from home. Too close or too far, uhm, so it all of those kind of factors kind of came together. 00:04:29 BradleyAnd so is all those reasons. And after Loyola, I see that you attended California State University, Fullerton for your master’s in science. I, I believe, was clinical and community psychology. Were you considering other schools and if so, why did you choose CSU Fullerton? 00:04:47 MichaelRight, so at that time, yes, I did consider other schools and in fact other programs too for a period of time I was considering pursuing a graduate degree in neuropsychology and had some applications for some universities that had that that had that particular discipline. But after just kind of a period of, of discernment and some work that I did in community mental Health Center in Tacoma, WA, I was a member of the what, what is called the Jesuit Volunteer Corps which is a lay organization and to do volunteer work and live in community at that time, again, I was working in a community mental Health Center so I became more familiar with what it was to do therapy. To diagnose and treat people from that from that perspective, and so I began to sort of turn towards that, that specific area of, of psychology and, uhm, when I investigated Cal State Fullerton's program, it really had the kind of elements that I was interested in. Uhm, sort of weighted towards psychodiagnostics, psychometrics and then various approaches. Theoretically to psychotherapy from the from the behavioral side to the analytical side and and some points in between. So, I just felt like it was really a good program, and it was a it's a small program, it was at that time, which was also an attractive element to it. So yes, I did look at other programs, but it all kind of came down to what I was needing at that time, and I certainly don't have any regrets. 00:06:42 BradleyWell, it sounds like it, it sounds like it was a good fit for you,

28: Tera D. Letzring, PhD – Professor of Psychology and Department Chair at Idaho State University Recalls Her Academic and Professional Journey Jun 14, 2022

When asked what made her gravitate towards psychology, Dr. Tera D. Letzring responded “I think I’ve just always been interested in people and trying to figure out why they do the things they do, why they feel the way that they feel in various situations and, you know, psychology is a little bit of insight into that. And I think it’s also interesting that, oftentimes, in addition to trying to figure out other people, we’re also trying to figure out ourselves.” In this podcast, Dr. Letzring recalls her academic and professional journey from graduate student to professor of psychology and, more recently, Department Chair. Along the way, she shares practical and insightful suggestions to those interested in the field of psychology. Dr. Letzring grew up in Oregon, went to college in Washington, spent a year in Texas, attended graduate school in California, got married while she was in graduate school, and then found her first academic position in Idaho. Dr. Letzring is currently Professor of Psychology and Department Chair at Idaho State University. She has been at ISU since she graduated with her PhD in Psychology from the University of California – Riverside in 2005. She is the Director of the Personality Judgment Lab at ISU and is serving on the publications committee for the Society for Personality and Social Psychology (SPSP). She has served as Director of Experimental Training and has received the Idaho State University Outstanding Researcher Award. She also served as an Associate Editor for the Journal of Research in Personality. In this podcast, Dr. Letzring discusses her graduate program application process and recalls that she applied to 12 graduate programs and was accepted into 3 of them. She remembers visiting 2 of them and felt the fit with the faculty was better at Riverside. She said, “sometimes your choices get narrowed down for you, so it’s good to apply to multiple places.” When discussing her job search experience after receiving her doctorate, she wanted to go somewhere where there was an emphasis on research, but she also wanted to teach. She wanted a balance of teaching and research, and Idaho State University gave her this opportunity. When talking about her newest challenge, serving as Department Chair of Psychology, she shared how the Council of Graduate Departments of Psychology (COGDOP) is a wonderful association which provides support for chairs and has been a very helpful resource. They have a yearly conference and provide a forum for discussion of education, training, and research while promoting the field of psychology. During our talk, Dr. Letzring provides wonderful advice to help students search and prepare for graduate programs. For example, she shares her thoughts on reaching out to faculty members, getting letters of recommendation, getting involved in research, and working in a research lab. We discuss how more universities nowadays are looking for someone who has postdoc (postdoctoral) experience than they have in the past and she identifies some of the advantages of doing a postdoc before you try to apply for an assistant professor position. Dr. Letzring likes staying active and believes in a healthy work-life balance but admits it is sometimes difficult to maintain this balance. She likes spending time with her family, back country hiking (she lives pretty close to the Tetons) and loves whale watching. Connect with Dr. Tera Letzring: LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Faculty PageConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/720164984 Interests and Specializations Dr. Tera Letzring’s research interests include the accuracy of personality assessment and personality judgment by examining the behaviors and characteristics of people who are good judges of personality, identifying the types of situations that may lead to accurate judgment, and the different kinds of information that lead to accurate judgment. Education Bachelor of Art (BA), Psychology (1999); University of Puget Sound, Tacoma, WA.Master of Arts (MA), Psychology (2002); University of California, Riverside, Riverside, CA.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Psychology (2005); University of California, Riverside, Riverside, CA. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Tera Letzring - Personality Assessment and Judgement Dr. Tera Letzring - Why we love Personality Psychology Podcast Transcript 00:00:14 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Tera Letzring to the show. Dr. Letzring received her master’s and PhD in psychology from the University of California, Riverside. Currently she is professor and department chair of Psychology at Idaho State University. She has been at ISU for over 17 years and for seven of those years she was the director of the Experimental Training Program, and she received the 2019 Outstanding Researcher Award. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey and discuss her interest, and research, in personality judgment and hear her advice for those interested in the field of personality psychology. Dr. Letzring, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:13 TeraWell, thank you very much for having me. 00:01:16 BradleyWell, I'm looking forward to talking to you a little bit more about your career and your academic journey. First off, what made you gravitate towards psychology? 00:01:25 TeraI think I've just always been interested in people and trying to figure out why they do the things they do, why they feel the way that they feel in various situations and, you know, psychology is a little bit of insight into that. And I think it's also interesting that, oftentimes, in addition to trying to figure out other people, we're also trying to figure out ourselves when you come to the end of the day, or like, why did I do that? Or why did that make me so mad, and I think psychology just is a good way to start answering some of those questions. 00:01:57 BradleyI, I fall in the same boat. Sometimes I question why am I reacting this way? And then you, you dig deeper. I, I see that you attended the University of Puget Sound for your bachelor's degree in psychology. At what point did you know that you wanted to get your psychology degree? 00:02:13 TeraI actually took a psychology class in high school. I think it was probably my junior or senior year of high school and just thought it was fascinating. When I was a kid, I always wanted to be a teacher. I just have always loved school and learning and so that when I took that psychology class, I thought, well, that's perfect. I can combine my interest in teaching with this new interest in psychology I found, and I can teach psychology. It just, it seemed to fit. 00:02:41 BradleyOK, and then why did you select the University of Puget Sound? Was it because of the program or was it proximity? Tell us a little bit more about that. 00:02:51 TeraYeah, a little bit about proximity. I grew up in Oregon and University of Puget Sound is in Washington State, so just north of Oregon. And I wanted to get out of Oregon. Not because I don't like Oregon just because, you know, sometimes you just want to try something new. Go somewhere else. I was a small still is a small liberal arts school, so I knew I wouldn't get lost in the numbers. I wanted to be somewhere where I would know my professors and they would know me and thought that would give me, you know, those opportunities. To really maybe learn at a higher level than if you're at a really big school and you're just one of many and a sea of faces in your classes. So, it was just a good fit. Went and toured the campus and seemed like a good place to be. 00:03:34 BradleyAnd then after you received your bachelor's degree, you attended the University of California, Riverside or UC Riverside for your Master of Arts and your PhD. Were you considering any other schools, and if so, why did you choose UC Riverside? 00:03:48 TeraYeah, great question. When you apply for Graduate School, I guess maybe the first tip, apply widely, right? It's competitive, and so it's been long. It's been a long time, but I still remember I applied to 12 graduate programs, and I got into 3. So sometimes your choices get narrowed down for you, so it's good to apply to multiple places. But when I was looking at programs, I knew I wanted somewhere where there was an emphasis on research. Certainly, learning how to do research and those kinds of things. I had done an independent study with a faculty member at Puget Sound who was a social psychologist so I thought, OK, social or personality psychology or some combination of those would be what I was looking for. So as I was looking at different graduate programs, I was definitely looking at places that either had a social program, a personality program, or a combined social and personality program, which is probably the most common. There aren't very many schools that have just a personality focused program. It's a fairly small area of psychology still, so it had the kind of the program I was looking for and had a good, you know, research base. There would also be some opportunity to learn and get experience with teaching. I knew that was that was what I was looking for, so once I had narrowed that down in the schools, I then looked at the faculty and the kinds of research that they were doing and basically there had to be at least two faculty who I thought I would be interested in working at before I applied to a program. So that's how I ended up with 12 schools. And then I got into three. I visited two of those and I think just the fit with faculty was better at Riverside,

27: David T. Susman, PhD – Clinical Psychologist, Assistant Professor, and Active Mental Health Advocate Shares his Experiences and Advice Jun 08, 2022

Dr. David T. Susman didn’t have to travel too far from his hometown of Tazewell, VA to begin his undergraduate career in psychology at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville, VA. He originally was going to pursue a career as a medical doctor but soon realized he wasn’t as interested in the pre-med courses as he was in the psychology courses so he decided “that would be a more interesting major” for him. In this podcast, I learned that Dr. Susman leads an active and engaged life in the field of psychology and has become a mental health advocate. In addition to his BA in Psychology, he earned two master’s degrees and a PhD on his way to become a licensed psychologist in Kentucky. Dr. Susman shares how he returned to his alma mater, University of Kentucky, to become an Assistant Professor of Clinical Psychology and the Director of the Jesse G. Harris, Jr. Psychological Services Center which is the training clinic for graduate students where he says they “learn to do psychotherapy and psychological assessment.” He works with all of the clinical psychology graduate students through their clinical training at the Harris Psychological Services Center where he has been the Director since 1996. After completing his graduate work and two internships, Dr. Susman began looking for a full-time job. He applied for a position at Eastern State Hospital which is a large public adult psychiatric hospital in Lexington, KY. They hired him and he thought “maybe I’ll work here a couple of years and then I’ll go out and start my private practice and then ended up working at Eastern State for 24 ½ years.” This is where he was the Founding Director of the Hospital Recovery Mall which is an award-winning recovery and rehabilitation program for adults with serious mental illness and substance misuse. Dr. Susman is currently serving on the APA Board of Directors and is Chair Elect for 2022 of the Council of Leadership Team. He provides an overview of the APA, its Societies and Divisions, as well as an analogy of the APA’s “executive branch” and “legislative branch” to better understand APA governance and his dual role. Dr. Susman is a natural teacher as he consistently shares poignant advice to those interested in psychology including what to consider when selecting a psychology graduate program or school, a discussion on the differences between a PsyD and PhD, and some resources and lesser-known groups available to those interested in clinical psychology (e.g., APTC and NAMI). You can hear more about his thoughts on choosing a PsyD or PhD about 8 minutes into our conversation. Dr. Susman also started his own blog at the end of 2014 as “another platform to be able to talk about mental health advocacy and to raise awareness.” In this blog, he shares “Stories of Hope” where there are over 100 interviews, or personal accounts, of people who have gone on their own journeys of recovery. Connect with Dr. David T. Susman: LinkedIn | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | Faculty Page | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/717838221 Interests and Specializations Dr. David Susman is a licensed clinical psychologist and has worked in psychiatric hospitals, mental health centers, a Federal prison, colleges and universities, and strongly believes in contributing to the community at large. He is active in mental health advocacy initiatives at the local, state, and Federal levels. He was the founding director of Eastern State Hospital’s Recovery Mall, an award-winning recovery and rehabilitation program for adults experiencing mental illness and substance abuse. Education Bachelor of Art (BA), Psychology (1981); University of Virginia, Charlottesville, VA.Master of Arts (MA), Clinical Psychology (1984); Marshall University, Huntington, WV.Master of Science (MS), Clinical Psychology (1988); University of Kentucky, Lexington, KY.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Clinical Psychology (1992); University of Kentucky, Lexington, KY. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. David T. Susman: Psychology Today Podcast Transcription 00:00:11 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host. Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. David Susman to the show. Dr. Susman received his doctorate in clinical psychology from the University of Kentucky and has been a licensed psychologist in Kentucky since 1992. He is an assistant professor of clinical psychology at the University of Kentucky and the Director of the Jesse G. Harris. Jr. Psychological Services Center. Today, we will learn more about his academic and professional journey and discuss his experiences as a psychologist, a mental health advocate, and learn more about the Association of Psychology Training Clinics as well as hear his advice for those interested in the field of psychology. David, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:09 DavidThanks so much Brad. I'm really very thrilled that you invited me to be here with you. 00:01:13 BradleyWell, we appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to talk with us a little bit. To start off, I always ask this of all of my guests. Can you remember when you first became interested in psychology? 00:01:26 DavidUh, yes, I can. And I actually, uh, I was an undergraduate student in college, and, uh, I, I had thought I was going to pursue a career as a physician as a medical doctor, but I found that I was not as interested in some of the pre-Med curriculum as I thought, and I had taken a couple of psychology courses and, uhm, I decided that would be a more interesting major for me. 00:01:52 BradleyWell, that sounds good. That actually sounds similar to some other people that I've had on the podcast as well. You attended, you attended the University of Virginia for your bachelor's degree in psychology. At what point did you know that you wanted to get your psychology degree? 00:02:07 DavidYeah, I you know I, ahh, I guess I started as a biology major as an undergrad, and then I kind of made that switch over and became a psychology major. But I was still clinging to the hopes of medical school all throughout undergrad and, umm, you know went ahead and you know was going to pursue that path. But I saw that you know organic chemistry was just not for me and so I realized that I probably needed to shift over into something more, more focused on psychology, and so that's what then led me to go beyond my undergrad training. 00:02:42 BradleyYeah, and that's a good transition. We didn't plan this, but you attended Marshall University for your Master of Arts degree in Clinical Psychology. Were you considering any other schools, or why did you choose Marshall? 00:02:54 DavidI, I grew up in rural southwestern Virginia, and so, you know, going to the University of Virginia was an in-state school for me. And Marshall was actually only about 3 hours from my hometown because I'm kinda in that part of Virginia that's close to West Virginia, and so just looking around and, and noticed that you know Marshall had that kind of program, and so that's why I ended up going there. 00:03:21 BradleyOK, and then even though you received 1 Master's degree, you actually I noticed you decided to work towards a second master's degree. You have a Master of Science in clinical psychology. Why did you want both an MA and an MS? 00:03:36 DavidYes, so, uh, I first you know went to Marshall and that was a uh, Master of Arts in clinical psychology, umm, and so I finished, I finished that program and then actually took two years off and worked in a rural community health community mental Health Center actually back in near my hometown in Virginia. Because I wanted to just see like you know, was this psychology work something that really fit well for me and I found that it did, and so that's when I then decided to go back to get my doctorate, which then led me to the University of Kentucky and as part of that doctoral training program at Kentucky. You actually complete a master's degree along the way. And the difference between the MS and the MA. My MA at Marshall did not require a research thesis, but the MS at the University of Kentucky did require a research thesis, so I ended up completing the MS at Kentucky. 00:04:35 BradleyGood explanation, that's what I suspected, but I wasn't quite sure. What were some of the reasons for selecting University of Kentucky instead of attending another university? 00:04:45 DavidYeah, I applied to several other doctoral programs, and you know, had some interviews. What, what I really liked about University of Kentucky, or UK as we call it, is it, it had a real, real, broad variety of clinical training as part of the program, and I knew that I was probably going to be focused more on a sort of clinically oriented career as opposed to a research focused career. And so, I was drawn, umm, to the variety of clinical training experiences. 00:05:15 BradleySo, it sounds like the clinical aspect of that graduate program was one of the biggest factors. Any other factors that came into play when selecting a graduate psychology program? 00:05:25 DavidUh, you know, really, really strong faculty and the, the mentor I was able to work with really aligned with some of my interests at that time and also it was only, you know, 4 1/2 hours from, from my hometown, so it was pretty close by, and I really liked the Lexington KY area, so you know a lot of reasons. 00:05:50 BradleySo, what advice would you give those who are interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology, whether it's a masters or a doctorate? Any advice for those? 00:05:59 DavidYeah, well,

26: Daniel T. Moore, PhD – Psychologist and Owner of Your Family Clinic, LLC creates Holistic Psychology Website Jun 05, 2022

Dr. Daniel T. Moore is a licensed psychologist in Mississippi. In this podcast, I learned that Dr. Moore is unique in a number of ways, and he shared some of his experiences in hopes that those interested in the field of psychology can apply what he has learned to their own academic and professional journey. Dr. Moore didn’t immediately continue working on his education after completing his undergraduate work. Instead, he went on a church mission for two years in Argentina. When he returned, he applied to graduate schools and found that it was competitive, but he was able to attend the University of Arizona where he received his master's degree in Child Development and Family Relations. He then applied to graduate schools again and this time he was accepted into the Industrial Organizational Psychology program at Purdue University where he received his second master’s degree. When he applied to doctoral programs, he found a home with Ball State University where he received his PhD in Counseling Psychology. In this podcast, Dr. Daniel T. Moore shares more about his academic and professional journey and discusses where he received most of his practical experience. He also worked in the Military (Navy and Army) as a psychologist and admits this gave him more experience that he could apply to his clients when he opened his own private practice in Petal, MS. Your Family Clinic, LLC is a private practice where independent psychologists work and take a Holistic approach to psychology. Indeed, the website for Your Family Clinic, LLC is a collection of materials and information related to Holistic Psychology (a.k.a., Integrative Psychology or Functional Medicine). The goal of the website is to “provide the world with helpful information related to Holistic Psychology” which will “lead to an individual’s empowerment and functionality” as it relates to mental health and well-being. Dr. Moore shares more about his professional journey and provides advice to those interested in psychology, neuropsychology, and those wanting to start their own practice. He also provides information on future goals for the website including developing applications and other resources for parents who have children struggling with neurodevelopmental issues such as the sequential memory needed to learn algebra. He is also working with functional medical doctors and nutritionists to help individuals with autism. You can learn more about his future plans around 15 minutes into our conversation. Connect with Dr. Daniel T. Moore: LinkedIn | Facebook | Business Facebook | Twitter | Medium | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/717191493 Interests and Specializations Dr. Daniel Moore is trained in several types of psychotherapy including EMDR, hypnosis, psychological testing, and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. He has experience working with Military personnel, families, couples, and individuals and works with a variety of concerns such as people struggling with depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, ADHD, Autism, and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Education Bachelor of Science (BS), Psychology (1979); University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ.Master of Science (MS), Child Development and Family Relations (1984); University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ.Master of Science (MS), Industrial Organizational Psychology (1985); Purdue University, Indianapolis, IN.Doctor of Philosophy (PhD), Counseling Psychology (1993); Ball State University, Muncie, IN. Podcast Transcription 00:00:12 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Dan Moore to the show. Dr. Moore received his doctorate from Ball State University and has been a licensed psychologist in Mississippi since 1995. He has experience in counseling and clinical psychology and is interested in neurodevelopment to help resolve issues in autism, learning disorders, and brain injury. Today, we will learn more about his academic and professional journey and discuss his experiences as a psychologist in the armed forces as well as his private practice, Your Family Clinic, which focuses on holistic psychology. Dan, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:06 DanThank you, great to be here. 00:01:08 BradleyWell, I'm glad that you're taking the time out of your busy schedule to talk with us. I usually start by asking just a generic question. I know you started your undergraduate degree at the University of Arizona, but what literally started you down the path of psychology? 00:01:25 DanWell, I was in pre-Med and then for some reason my brain just did not get calculus. No matter what I did it just could not get calculus. So, I decided I needed to do something else. So, I decided to, to go into, well I, I asked myself what was my favorite classes that I was taking, and the answer was psychology. I was really interested in psychology and so I decided to change my major to psychology. 00:01:49 BradleyOK, so while you were going through your undergrad at University of Arizona, you changed your major. Did you end up receiving a BA or a BS? 00:01:57 DanA BS. 00:01:59 BradleyOK, and then do you remember why you originally chose University of Arizona? 00:02:04 DanWell, because it had a Med school there. 00:02:06 BradleyOK, and then you slowly realized that you have more of a passion for psychology instead of the medical route. After you finished your undergraduate in University of Arizona, what did you do then? I, I did see that you went to Ball State University for your doctorate, but in between the two, I didn't really see much what you did in between the two? So, tell us what did you do right after you finished or your undergraduate? 00:02:34 DanOK so I went on a church mission for two years. Ah, I was able to go to Argentina and then, uh, I decided to apply for a masters, uh, a PhD program in clinical psychology and I applied for about, about 20 universities and received rejection notices from all of them, except for a master's program at, um, at Purdue University at Indianapolis, and it was an industrial organizational psychology master's. So, I went up there to complete a master's program. Well, that was, I'm sorry, I'm getting a little ahead of myself. I got first before I did all that. I got a master's degree at the at University of Arizona in Child Development and Family Relations. 00:03:23 BradleyOK. 00:03:24 DanAnd after applying everywhere and then I did the same thing again, and the only place I got accepted was at the IO program in Indianapolis. And then I finished that program, and I was able to get all A’s in all these programs. And then I applied to Ball State University. And I only applied just that one place. That's all I applied, and when I did my interview they said, wow, you're our best candidate. Why didn't you apply sooner? So anyway, it was a good fit between them and, and myself, and so that's why I got my PhD. 00:04:04 BradleyOK, and if you recall what was the reason why you only applied at Ball State versus some other universities? 00:04:12 DanWell, I was working as a family therapist in a chemical dependency program and so I had two young children and a family and stuff like that and so Ball State was real close to where I was living. So that's the reason I applied there. 00:04:29 BradleyOK, so if you had any advice for those who were seeking a graduate degree in psychology, what would you offer? 00:04:36 DanWell, the best way to get in is to get into a PhD program is immediately after you finish your bachelors. But if you can't and you're really interested in being a psychologist, then well keep trying and, and until finally you get in. It's hard to do but, to me, it was worth it. Now, I wouldn't recommend the way I went to anybody. 00:05:02 BradleyWell, you know if you look back that gave, you know, that gives you that experience and that gives you that knowledge. And it's funny that they said, oh, you're our best candidate, how come you didn't apply earlier? So that's, that's a funny little story. I know that you did your postdoctoral internship at the Preferred Family Clinic in Provo, UT. 00:05:22 DanPreferred Family Clinic, yes. 00:05:24 BradleyOh, OK, and what was, what really stood out, if you think back on this experience, what really stood out for you and what did you learn during your postdoctoral internship at that clinic? 00:05:36 DanWell, I learned a lot about being a psychologist at a, at a private clinic, and the different insurance plans and, and helping people from a wide spectrum from people living in poverty to wealthy people, so we got a whole wide range and a lot of different types of situations and disorders. So, it really was I was able to get a lot of experience really quick. So, and it was all supervised, so it was, is when I had a question or, or anything, there was great people to help me out there. 00:06:17 BradleyAnd then I know that you worked at the Pine Belt Mental Health Care Resources, and I don't know if I'm going to pronounce this correctly, Hattiesburg, MS? 00:06:27 DanHattiesburg. 00:06:28 BradleyI tried. And you, you were there as a psychologist, and you actually were there for about 14 years. Uhm, anything that you can recall that was memorable while you were working at that, uh, that organization? 00:06:43 DanWell, when I was in at Pine Belt, I really got an interest in neurodevelopment, and I noticed that a lot of especially with learning disorders and dyslexia and stuff that that what they were doing at school just really wasn't helping them and would lead to things like depression and anxiety in these children,

25: Marie Helweg-Larsen, PhD – Professor of Psychology and Optimistic Bias Expert Shares Insightful Advice for Students May 24, 2022

Dr. Marie Helweg-Larsen grew up in Denmark and had the opportunity to study abroad at Slippery Rock University in PA even though she wasn’t enrolled at a Danish university. In hindsight, she admits that it was an “amazing culture shock” moving to rural Pennsylvania for a year. She recalls sitting with her Danish-English Dictionary having to “slog through a college level textbook” to understand the language and the assignments. She said that “it was also really fun and really opened up my world.” One class, in particular, that she found fascinating was a class in human sexuality which was taught by a psychology professor. She was able to teach this class many times later in her career and actually taught it to American students who were studying abroad in Copenhagen so she was able to incorporate Danish perspectives on sexuality into the course. Throughout this podcast interview, Dr. Helweg-Larsen shares her academic and professional journey while providing insightful advice to those interested in the field of psychology. When sharing the reasons why she attended UCLA for her graduate degrees in social psychology, she also suggests other things to consider when selecting a graduate school. When reminiscing about her experiences at UCLA, she reminds the listener to enjoy all of the other activities a major university has to offer such as attending a Bruins game, playing softball with fellow graduate students, and she pointed out that UCLA had an award-winning flag football team which was coached by a previous Master’s in Psychology Podcast guest (Bob Bjork). The recurring theme of “opportunity” seemed to emerge during our discussion and Dr. Helweg-Larsen was more than willing to share the backstory to many of the opportunities she experienced in her life. From having the opportunity to be a Visiting Professor at the Danish Institute for Study Abroad in Copenhagen, Denmark to her first experience as Department Chair at Transylvania University to Health Studies Chair at Dickinson College to Director of the Dickinson Science Program in England then the next year in Denmark. Dr. Helweg-Larsen also emphasized the importance of undergraduate and graduate students taking advantage of any opportunity they can whether it be getting involved in a lab, attending conferences, connecting with other students to discuss each other’s work, and creating opportunities for yourself by getting to know your professors and other colleagues. She states “you just have to be brave and seek out opportunities and that doesn’t mean you’re going to be successful, but it can lead to other opportunities.” She explains that sometimes not getting something gives you other opportunities. She then provided a couple of examples where she wasn’t selected for an opportunity or position, but it led to other amazing opportunities. You can hear more about these approximately 32 minutes into the interview. Connect with Dr. Helweg-Larsen: Linkedin | Facebook | Faculty PageConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/713130261 Interests and Specializations Dr. Marie Helweg-Larsen has conducted research in social psychology, health psychology, and cross-cultural psychology. Recently, she has focused on the causes, consequences, and correlates of optimistic bias as it relates to our ability to assess risk during the COVID-19 pandemic. She has also examined the effects of stigmatization and the willingness to quit smoking in the U.S. and Denmark. Education Bachelor of Science (B.A.), Psychology (1989); California State University, Northridge, CA.Master of Arts (M.A.), Social Psychology (1990); University of California, Los Angeles, CA.Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.), Social Psychology (1994); University of California, Los Angeles, CA. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Marie Helweg-Larsen: Google ScholarDr. Marie Helweg-Larsen: Why We’re Not Good at Risk Assessment (video)Dr. Marie Helweg-Larsen: Mask Wearing - When and How to Speak Up (video)Dr. Marie Helweg-Larsen: Explanation of Smoking Stigmatization Research (video) Podcast Transcription 00:00:11 BradleyWelcome to the Master's in Psychology podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Marie Helweg- Larsen to the show. Dr. Helweg-Larsen is a professor in the Department of Psychology at Dickinson College in Carlisle, PA. She started her career at Dickinson College in 2002 and has also served as Psychology Department Chair and Health Studies Chair. More recently, she has written many articles on a variety of topics during the pandemic. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey and discuss how she is applying her education and experience in social psychology, health psychology, and cross-cultural psychology. Marie, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:04 MarieThank you for having me. 00:01:06 BradleyWell, I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule and just before you're going to go on vacation to meet with us and share some of your experiences and advice. To start us off, tell us what originally sparked your interest in psychology. 00:01:20 MarieSo, I grew up in Denmark and after high school I was trying to figure out what my future paths were, and I had the opportunity to study abroad at Slippery Rock University in Pennsylvania. And I actually was not an exchange student because I was not enrolled at a Danish university, and it was an amazing culture shock and moving to, to rural Pennsylvania for the year. And I would also say to be fair, I wasn't exactly prepared for the level of undergraduate work in a language that I had obviously learned English in school, but not exactly to the proficiency of college level learning. So, sitting with your Danish English Dictionary, which back in the day is the way we looked up words and, and trying to slog through a college level textbook, was really challenging. But it was also really fun and really opened up my world and the most exciting class I took that year, I took classes in English and biology and, and communication, was a class in human sexuality which I just thought was so fascinating and it's, of course, an in a disciplinary topic although it was taught by a psychologist. And that's a class that I, myself many years later, got have taught many times. And I actually got to teach it a year I lived in Copenhagen to American students who were studying abroad in Copenhagen, which was a really particularly fun setting because you could bend some of the topics to, to the, the culture that you that we went. So, so Danish perspectives on sexuality was definitely part of the course. 00:03:01 BradleySo, you mentioned that you went to California State University Northridge and was there a particular reason why you selected that college or university? 00:03:10 MarieSo, by then I. Had returned from. Slippery Rock and was back in Denmark for several years. And then I came back to the U.S. and by then I was actually a transfer student which many people don't know can be particularly difficult to enter as many competitive universities like UCLA, for example, just has very small number of transfer student spots. Ahh, so, so I was picking based on geography and I later on really came to see what a great university it was, but I wouldn't say that I had the tools to understand that at the time. I mean, you can look at who's there, right? But it's hard to figure out what that means in terms of the classroom situation. So, what I found was that it was really great to be at a big university in which there were many classes offered and many professors, but the classes weren't that large and there was a big commitment to teaching. So, it ended up being a great place for me where I really thrived, but I can't say that I could have deciphered all of that before I applied. 00:04:17 BradleyAnd then you went on for your master’s and your doctorate over at UCLA. Were you considering any other schools at that point? Or why did you choose UCLA? 00:04:26 MarieI did consider the schools in the area, USC I, you know, Claremont Graduate School and so on. And I did interview at, at the multiple schools and UCLA definitely had the, the best prestige and the best financial compensation package of any of the other schools. So, so that ended up being the factors that I considered. Again, I would say that it's really hard to decipher from the outside what the experience is like, and now, I think, the graduate programs invite students as they're considering applying, but at least at that time there was really no opportunity to reach out to other grad, current graduate students. I, I think you now could find their email addresses online right and call them. But at the time it was actually hard to figure out. What is it actually like? Like, what do you do every day, like those kinds of basic questions? And graduate programs, of course, differ even within social psychology, right? Making it even more confusing. So, some social psychology PhD programs have a lot of coursework, and some mostly want you to focus on your research right away. Some have very tight and collaborative, uhm, cohorts of students who come in and some are more, you know, you’re on your own. Essentially trying to sort this out and, and none of all of that I figured out after the fact, not before the fact. So, I think that students today have perhaps more tools and opportunities to find out some of the experiences, for example, of the students who are currently in the program. 00:06:07 BradleyYeah, that's a good point. And you mentioned earlier that you know it's not only challenging for graduate students to get into a Graduate School,

24: Andrea D. Clements, PhD – Psychology Professor and Researcher Finds her Passion and Calling Mar 18, 2022

Dr. Andrea “Andi” D. Clements was born and raised in Birmingham, AL. When she was in junior high, her dad took a job at the University of Alabama which ultimately impacted her academic and professional life. Though she did very well on her ACT and received many offers to attend college elsewhere, she admits “it was really a no brainer” to attend UA because of the cost-savings, her interest in counseling and psychology, proximity to home, and all of her friends were in the area. In this podcast, Dr. Clements shares her experiences while attending the University of Alabama for her BS, MA, and PhD. She then reveals how she ended up at East Tennessee State University in Johnson City, TN and why she has stayed there for almost 27 years. Throughout this podcast, Andi shares some delightful stories and offers advice to those interested in selecting and attending graduate school for psychology and counseling. She even discusses how ETSU is different from other universities and why you should consider attending ETSU for your undergraduate or graduate degrees. Dr. Clements is currently professor and assistant chair of the psychology department at East Tennessee State University. After receiving her PhD in Educational Psychology with concentrations in industrial organizational psychology, statistics, rehabilitation, and counseling, she started as an assistant professor of educational and developmental psychology at West Georgia College. From there, she explains how and why she went to ETSU to continue her professional career as an assistant professor. She worked her way up from assistant professor to associate professor to full professor at UA and explains that she loves being “a medium fish in a medium pond” because it allows her to teach and conduct meaningful research. Andi explains how it makes more sense to her to conduct community-based, meaningful research. She states, “I now have a burning desire to answer a research question” and “that’s what keeps me going.” This is evident in her research on substance abuse and addiction, health psychology, and resilience-building. We discuss her HeART (Health, Addiction, Religion, Trauma) Lab at ETSU along with her role on the leadership team of the Ballad Health Strong BRAIN Institute which studies Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) and promotes “the development and dissemination of evidence-based practices that prevent, reduce, or mitigate the negative effects of ACEs on health and health disparities.” Dr. Clements has been involved in church and faith-based work all of her life so when she decided to add the study of religious variables to her research, she attended a five-day training at Duke University. She explains how she and Becky Haas were approached to “try to mobilize the church to address addiction.” This eventually led to her and others co-founding Uplift Appalachia where she currently serves as president. Dr. Clements also talks about the opioid crisis and what Uplift is doing to help churches care for those suffering from addiction. Andi also reveals that she has been a church planter and regularly helps and mentors those living with addiction or have been incarcerated. Listen to the podcast to learn more about how Andi is applying her education and research to address addiction and mental health challenges. Connect with Dr. Clements: LinkedIn | Faculty PageConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/689512881 Interests and Specializations Dr. Andrea Clements specializes in experimental concentration and developmental psychology. She is passionate about conducting community-based research on substance abuse and addiction, health psychology, trauma-related neuropsychological development, resilience-building, and Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs). Education Bachelor of Science (B.S.), Interdisciplinary Counseling (1982); The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa, AL.Master of Arts (M.A.), Rehabilitation Counseling (1984); The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa, AL.Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.), Educational Psychology (1991); The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa, AL. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Andrea D. Clements VitaThriving Communities in the Face of Addiction - Stories@DukeDivinity Podcast Transcription 00:00:14 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Andi Clements to the show. Dr. Clements is a professor and assistant chair in the Department of Psychology at East Tennessee State University and has been at ETSU for almost 27 years. She is also the co-founder and president of Uplift, Appalachia, and associate director of Research, Design, and Implementation of the ETSU Ballad Health Strong Brain Institute. Today we will learn more about her academic and professional journey and discuss how she is applying her education and experience to help churches and other organizations care for those with addictions and mental health challenges. Andi, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:14 AndreaThanks, thanks for having me. 00:01:16 BradleyI am excited to talk about your academic journey and how you are applying your passions to all these different areas. But to start off a general question, what made you gravitate toward counseling and psychology? 00:01:31 AndreaWow, it would be sad to say, but it was a boyfriend. In college I had a I, I dated a fellow who was in psychology and my mom wanted me to be an engineer and he ended up being an engineer and I ended up being a psychologist and I didn't marry him. 00:01:49 BradleyOK, but you stuck with it. 00:01:51 AndreaI stuck with it. I stuck with it, yeah? 00:01:53 BradleyWell, good and, and if you've seen some of our podcasts in the past, what we normally do is go through your academic and professional journey, so to speak. And I see that you attended the University of Alabama for your Bachelor of Science and Interdisciplinary Counseling. At what point did you know that you wanted to get your counseling degree? 00:02:13 AndreaUhm, that was actually early, fairly early on I was in a program. This was the 70s. You kind of do your own thing and they had a program called New College. And in New College you could make your own degree, which sounds kind of lame, but you could make your own degree and I went in, believe it or not, as an art major. And then I was like, well, I need something applied. Aart and advertising and then, well I need something more academic, so art, advertising, and psychology. And then I'll never make money. So, I spent a semester as a chemistry major. That was a mistake, and then I realized that I was not a chemistry major and then I went back and thought, well, I really do want to do some sort of helping people occupation and I was able to piece together lots of things that I had already done, and so the interdisciplinary counseling doesn't really exist as a degree. But mine was a combination of psychology, uhm, social work and then I, I was able to take some graduate level counseling classes as an undergrad thinking that I would probably go to grad school eventually, but not really sure what direction I would go in grad school. 00:03:24 BradleyAnd it sounds like you were able to customize your degree to a certain extent and so tell us how and why you selected the University of Alabama for your bachelor's degree then? 00:03:29 AndreaWell, so decisions get made for you. I lived, I was born and raised in in Birmingham, AL. But when I was in junior high, my dad took a job at the University of Alabama. And he was part-time faculty in broadcasting and parttime director of the Alabama Broadcasters Association. Thus, half price thus cheap. And so, I was there. I could live at home and go inexpensively there. So, it was really a no brainer there I, I never, I never, I, I did apply other places, but I didn't go anywhere else. Yeah, yeah. 00:04:10 BradleyOK, and, and that was the primary factor. Were there any other colleges or universities that were even close to being considered after you applied? And if so, why? 00:04:23 AndreaWell, I, I, I, I did really well. Well, I should say I dropped out of high school to go to college. So, so I, I went to college after the 11th grade. I did really well on my ACT and so I got letters from everywhere you know. Please come here please come here please come here very flattering. Kept a whole folder of all these places that really wanted me, but it didn't make sense because even with scholarships and everything it was still very expensive and that was right there. And also, I was really involved with, I worked in a, in a like a high school ministry group there that was my friends. Those were the people I hung out with and so to just go off on my own didn't make sense in my world at that time. 00:05:10 BradleySo, my next question, you've kind of already answered it. You stayed at the University of Alabama for your Master of Arts and Rehabilitation Counseling. At that point, I kind of know why you probably stayed 'cause it still made more sense to go ahead and stay. But why the change? Or why more of the focus on rehabilitation counseling now? 00:05:32 AndreaThis is beginning to sound very utilitarian, I just I'm just realizing that here, you know, decades into it. But I knew I wanted to do counseling uhm, and there was a professor in the program who, yeah, like I said as an undergrad, I took courses. And in the counseling programs already knew some of the faculty members and I got recruited into that program, but there, at that time, there was a, a grant for student. You could go and just do counseling and, and maybe have an assistantship, maybe not,

23: Paul Sheesley, MA, LPC, LCPC, LCADC – Ambitious and Persistent Counselor Becomes One of Washington, D.C.’s Most Notable Transformational Psychotherapists Mar 10, 2022

Around the age of 14, Paul Sheesley took a psychology course in high school. About the same time, his parents gave him a book on psychology for his birthday, “Guilty by Reason of Insanity: Inside the Minds of Killers” by Dorothy Otnow Lewis. After reading the book, especially the case examples and studies, he remembers “becoming fascinated with the field [of psychology].” In fact, during his senior year, he did a practicum at Spring Grove in Maryland which is the third oldest mental health facility in the nation. He became so interested in counseling and psychology that he attended McDaniel College in Westminster, MD for his BA in psychology and neuroscience. Since then, Paul has been focused, driven, and ambitious when it comes to self-development and sharpening his clinical skills and expanding his acumen. In this podcast, Paul shares his academic and professional journey in hopes that his experiences and advice will help those interested in the field of counseling and psychology. During our discussion, he shares some of the most important opportunities in his life which allowed him to expand his education, knowledge, and experience. He continued his education by attending The Chicago School of Professional Psychology for his MA in forensic psychology. During our discussion he shared his belief in applying and improving oneself by learning, and becoming proficient in, new types of therapy. He is a schema therapist and is part of the International Society of Schema Therapy. Paul is a Licensed Professional Counselor, Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor, and a Licensed Clinical Alcohol and Drug Counselor. With almost 20 years of experience in the field of clinical psychology, Paul has his own practice in Washington, D.C. and Bel Air, MD. Through hard-work and dedication, he has built up his reputation as being one of the most notable transformational psychotherapists in the D.C. area specializing in helping politicians, C-suite executives, and other prominent people and couples to achieve balance in both their personal and professional lives. Throughout the podcast, Paul provides suggestions and advice to those interested in the field of psychology and those wanting to start their own practice. He is still fascinated with the brain and how it works and how the two hemispheres work and communicate with each other that he says a good therapist is “an amygdala whisperer.” Listen to the podcast for other advice and to find out what challenges are unique to his D.C. clients. Connect with Paul Sheesley: LinkedIn | Facebook | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/686592507 Interests and Specializations Paul Sheesley focuses on working with individuals, couples, and families and uses psychodynamic, emotionally-focused, cognitive behavioral theories and approaches to help people achieve balance in their personal and professional lives. His clinical work also draws on schema therapy and a variety of targeted and thoughtful interventions. Education Bachelor of Science (B.S.), Psychology/Neuroscience (2006); McDaniel College, Westminster, MD.Master of Arts (M.A.), Forensic Psychology (2010); The Chicago School of Professional Psychology, Chicago, IL.Certificate of Advanced Study in Counseling/Clinical Psychology (2013); Towson University, Towson, MD.Certified Schema Therapist (2019): The Cognitive Therapy Institute of New Jersey, Lakewood, NJ. Other Sources and Links of Interest Paul Sheesley at PsychologyTodaySchema Therapy Training Institute Podcast Transcription 00:00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Paul Sheesley to the show. Paul is a psychotherapist with almost 20 years of experience in the field of clinical psychology. As one of DC's most notable transformational psychotherapists, he empowers politicians, C level executives and other prominent people and couples to achieve balance in both their personal and professional lives. Today, we will learn more about his academic and professional journey and discuss challenges working with these types of clients and the therapy approaches he uses to help these clients. Paul, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:05 PaulHi Brad, thanks so much for having me and I’m looking forward to today's recording. 00:01:10 BradleyWell, I know you're a busy man and you've got a lot of experience and certifications, but before we get started, do you remember when you first became interested in counseling and psychology? 00:01:22 PaulActually, I do. Uhm, it goes far back actually, to somewhere around the age of 14. I remember my parents had gotten me a book on psychology for my birthday and I actually saw…have the book. It says, “Happy Birthday Paul, 14th" and it was uh, I, I can't remember her name, it was Dr. uhm, Dorothy Otnow Lewis and she's a clip. Actually, forensic psychiatrist and interesting now I do remember the book it was “Guilty by Reason of Insanity”, and I guess my parents thought, or my mother thought that was an interesting book for me to read because I was also taking a psychology course in high school. I thought this was really neat and I guess they thought, well, we'll, we'll get a small gift, a book. I'm like you have a book and I remember reading it and just becoming fascinated with the field and, and the, the case examples and studies that she had done with her population and so. That's, that, I think that is where it kicked off. 00:02:30 BradleyWell, it's interesting you mentioned that book because it was focused on forensic, and you actually received your Master of Arts in forensic psychology at the school at the Chicago School of Professional Psychology. And if you've seen any of our podcasts, what we normally do is kind of go through your academic and professional journey and I'll go back to your Bachelor of Arts. You attended McDaniel, McDaniel, or is McDaniel? 00:02:54 PaulYep, McDaniel yes. 00:02:56 BradleyMcDaniel College in Westminster, MD for your BA in Psychology and Neuroscience. At what point did you know you wanted to get your psychology degree? Was it after reading that book or was it later on? Tell us a little bit more about that. 00:03:10 PaulSo, from there. Again, I had finished the psychology course in high school. And uhm, at the time this was a, I was in the era where folks began to start taking college classes while in high school. And so, I was looking to the local Community College. And I thought, well, you know, I'm going to take another one and, uh, and I'll, I'll get to leave high school early, which was great. And so, I started taking college courses. Some of the basic courses that that most will start out with is your psychology 101 and the human development like 102. And, uh, you know technical writing and all that fun stuff and so started taking those courses and became even more intrigued, especially through the developmental piece just understanding human development from, you know, infancy on which was which was another avenue of, of, of becoming more aware of people. And uhm, and then in there, there was this opportunity because as a high schooler, it's like we, we, we typically do like volunteer work at some point. And I thought, well, I. Where are these folks? So, it's like where, the folks, right the, the folks that I've read about, you know, were mental health right? I know where we go for physical right we go to the doctor. We go to the hospital and so I went to the hospital and OK. Well, I, I think there is a mental health ward or sect a part of the hospital. And I went and I spoke to the director, and I remember them saying, well, we do have one. It's a psychiatric unit, but we don't have volunteers there, so I said, oh, well, I'm going to be the first. So, I went, and I reached out to the director of the psychiatric unit, and I said I'm really interested. You know, I am so, you know, I'm fascinated by the field. I'd like to be involved and she spoke to the director of the hospital or the volunteer, the Volunteer service and I was their first volunteer on the Emergency Psychiatric Board. And so then, that's where it really picked up my interest so. I remember doing that quite a bit and, interestingly, the experience was almost play it by ear because it's like, what do you? So, what was my role? And I kind of invented my role and. A lot of the times, it was stay behind the counter just kind of observe and, uh, yeah so that, that was a really cool experience. 00:05:48 BradleyWell, you mentioned one of your experiences and you have many others, as I mentioned, the next school that you attended after your BA, as I mentioned in the intro, is the Chicago School of Professional Psychology, and you received your Master of Arts in Forensic Psychology. So, I was curious, you went from psychology and neuropsychology, and then you went to forensics. So, I have a couple questions regarding that. So what made you kind of more interested in exploring that field or that section of psychology versus staying within clinical psychology? 00:06:23 PaulSo, I never quite diverted from clinical psychology. I, I tell folks that I, I tailored my education and experiences. And so, when I was at McDaniel College, you know, it was primarily focused on psychology and then the neuroscience piece kicked in. Uhm, I remember Dr. Steven Grant, uhm, a wonderful man, very intelligent, worked at NIDA (National Institute on Drug Abuse) and NIH (National Institutes of Health), and he taught a lot of cognitive neuroscience classes. I took neurobiology courses and, and I felt at that time I, I really wanted to link, you know,

22: Rhonda Goldman, PhD – Professor, Psychologist, and Emotion-Focused Therapy (EFT) Expert Feb 28, 2022

Dr. Rhonda Goldman has known from a young age that she has always wanted to become a psychologist. Her mother was a psychologist, so she admits she “kind of had a little bit of a bird’s eye view” of the field of psychology. Dr. Goldman is a professor in the Clinical Psychology Department at The Chicago School of Professional Psychology and a licensed Clinical Psychologist in Illinois. In this podcast, Dr. Goldman discusses why she chose York University in Toronto, ON, Canada for her undergraduate degree and why she stayed at York University for her master’s and doctorate. She also reveals how exciting it was to work with Dr. Les Greenberg to further develop Emotion-Focused Therapy (EFT). Dr. Goldman has taken her passion for EFT and applied it to couples and individuals. She and other colleagues formed the Emotion-Focused Therapy Institute (EFTI) which facilitates and fosters training and educational opportunities for psychologists and therapists interested in incorporating EFT into their professional practices or expanding the types of therapy they use in their own practice. Dr. Goldman also discusses other organizations that may serve as a home for people interested in Emotion-Focused Therapy and those wanting to integrate EFT or other types of therapy into their repertoire of skills. In particular, she discusses how she became a founding board member of the International Society for Emotion Focused Therapy (isEFT) and its purpose. Dr. Goldman was a past-president of the Society for the Exploration of Psychotherapy Integration (SEPI) and she discusses how this can serve as another resource or home for those who want to integrate other types of therapy into their practice. During my discussion with Dr. Goldman, she admits that she was lucky in many ways. She was lucky in that she knew while she was an undergraduate that she wanted to be a psychotherapist. Some people don’t figure out what they want to do for a living, let alone knowing what major to declare in undergraduate or graduate school. She was also lucky to have found an exciting place to study, receive good mentorship, and an exciting field of study at York University. She also mentioned that she was lucky because she graduated with her PhD with little to no debt. She said that she would hear stories of people graduating and “paying back debt for years and years” and said that wasn’t her experience as there are many opportunities and agencies to help fund your education in Canada. When asked if there was anything she wished she had known about psychology ahead of time before choosing her career path, Dr. Goldman said she wished she had known that psychology “is so diverse” and that “there’s so much you can do with a degree, especially in clinical psychology.” She then proceeded to list some of the things you can do including applied psychology, therapy, research, and neuropsychology. She states “I wish I knew how much there was to offer, I mean, and I think that’s why you have what you’re doing [the Master’s in Psychology Podcast and website] is trying to help people sort through all that psychology has and try to find their track within it, right? And so, I think that’s really great, because people need some guidance, I think along those line because there is so much out there.” Connect with Dr. Rhonda Goldman: Faculty Page | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/682933285 Interests and Specializations Dr. Rhonda Goldman focuses on Emotion-Focused Therapy (EFT) for couples and individuals. She conducts research on EFT for couples, emotional processes, empathy, and vulnerability as well as work on case formulation and the dynamics of emotion, love, and power. She travels internationally providing training workshops for mental heal professionals who want to incorporate EFT into their professional practices. Education Bachelor of Arts (B.A.), Psychology (1987); York University, Toronto, Ontario, Canada.Master of Arts (M.A.), Psychology (1991); York University, Toronto, Ontario, Canada.Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.), Clinical Psychology (1997); York University, Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Rhonda Goldman - Providing Emotion-Focused Therapy OnlineDr. Rhonda Goldman - PsychologyTodayDr. Rhonda Goldman - Neurotree PublicationsEmotion-Focused Therapy (Wikipedia) Podcast Transcription 00:00:12 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher and today we welcome Dr. Rhonda Goldman to the show. Dr. Goldman is a professor in the Clinical Psychology department at the Chicago School of Professional Psychology. She runs a private practice, Emotion Focused Therapy, Chicago where she works with both individuals and couples. She is also involved with the Emotion Focused Therapy Institute (EFTI) and is past-president of the Society for the Exploration of Psychotherapy Integration (SEPI). Today, we will learn more about her academic journey and get a better understanding of Emotion-Focused Therapy (EFT). Dr. Goldman, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:04 RhondaThank you. Thank you, Brad. Thank you for having me. 00:01:07 BradleyI'm excited to talk to you about Emotion-Focused Therapy or EFT. But first, can you tell us, do you remember the first time you became interested in psychology? 00:01:20 RhondaYeah, uhm, well, of course it goes way back, and it goes all the way back to high school days. I can remember sitting in psychology class with our teacher talking about psychology and experimenting and. I just thought it sounded so cool, so cool. 00:01:44 BradleyAnd, and I know ever since then, you know, you actually received all of your degrees, and it's, it's rare you're my first guest, actually, now I'm thinking out loud, that has received their undergrad and graduate degrees at the same university, so you attended York University in Toronto, ON Canada. How did you choose York University? 00:02:07 RhondaYeah, no. It's, it's interesting that you point that out because I, I mean along the way, you know, I went to York initially grew up in in Canada, in Vancouver, BC, Canada, and at that point I was attracted to York as an undergraduate 'cause it had such a good reputation. And this, like you know, for psychology and, and as I said, I really knew what I wanted to do very early on you, you know. I was, I was lucky, I considered myself lucky in that way that I was so kind of clear about that from an early age, and that that hasn't really ever waned. Uhm so anyway, I, I wanted to go to York because they had this reputation for having a great psychology program, so I went there for undergrad. And then, you know, and people would say along the way well, you know maybe you should look at other programs for Graduate School and because, you know, you don't want to do all your degrees at the same university, but the thing is that I found so much there and then it was like even better for graduate work, you know, it had a, the graduate program was considered, you know, the top clinical psychology program in the country at that point and, and so I was like, OK, and then, you know that, that I knew people and, and then I knew I was going to receive good mentorship and that was so important. So, I just stayed really, it was, it was a very exciting place to study. I was, I got really lucky. 00:03:40 BradleyWell, it sounds like it and, and you're not the only one. I remember my advisors in undergrad and grad school saying no, you should expand and explore and attend other colleges and universities and it doesn't look good if you stay at the same one. I doubt that you, I never, when I applied for jobs, nobody ever said “Brad, I noticed you went to the same university for all of your…” 00:04:02 RhondaYeah, right? 00:04:03 BradleyYou know I; I don't think anybody said that to you either, right? 00:04:07 RhondaNo, no, no. I mean, they sometimes ask me about, about it like you are but, but they're not nobody sort of questions that yeah, yeah. 00:04:16 BradleyRight, right now it's interesting that you brought that up 'cause it, you know, there are advantages and disadvantages of staying at the same university, but you already pointed out some of the advantages is you felt comfortable, you knew the staff, and you knew the faculty and you knew that you would receive good mentorship. And so that's the reason. Now, when you did go through your masters and your doctorate at York University, tell us how the funding works there. If somebody is interested 'cause we rarely have guests that talk about Canadian, you know, universities. In the United States, when you go for your PhD, it's more likely that you are going to get some sort of funding. 00:04:57 RhondaRight? 00:04:58 BradleyOr, or, you know, tuition reimbursement or waiver or something. Tell us a little bit more about how it works in Canada. 00:05:07 RhondaOK, so I mean it's been a while since I was there, but I'll say this. You know, Canadian universities are typically, tuition wise, they're typically not as, the tuitions are not as high as they are in the United States, right? So that's now if you're paying international fees, that increases, but, but in general, you know, it's so it wasn't so the tuition wasn't so crazy at the time. Uhm, but also you can apply for scholarships, and I got some scholarships, and you know and through Graduate School I did teaching assistantships, research assistantships uhm, and I basically was able to. I, I had my, my experience, my educational experience funded so it wasn't like at the graduate level, I wasn't paying out. Uhm, so one can do that.

21: Erin Haugen, PhD, LP, CMPC – Creating a Niche as a Sport Psychologist in Grand Forks, ND Feb 08, 2022

Dr. Erin Haugen grew up on a farm in rural North Dakota. On the advice of her mom, she decided to stay close to home and “try a semester or two” at UND. What started out as a couple of semesters ended up being a number of years as she received her undergraduate and graduate degrees from the University of North Dakota in Grand Forks, ND. Although she attended undergraduate school with the intention of becoming a psychiatrist, in this podcast, she admits that she didn’t know what a psychologist was until one of her professors pulled her aside and said “Erin, I actually think you want to be a psychologist instead of a psychiatrist.” At that point, she took a different route and combined her passion for athletics and understanding people and began working with athletes. She soon became very aware of the performance piece that is present for many athletes and this opened the door for her to do more research and eventually jump into the discipline of sport psychology. Dr. Haugen is a licensed clinical psychologist and sport psychologist in Grand Forks, ND. In fact, she is the only sport psychologist in the state of North Dakota who is a Certified Mental Performance Consultant (CMPC). In this podcast, Dr. Haugen reflects on her academic and professional journey and gives us a glimpse into how it feels to work with athletes from over 20 different sports ranging from recreational to elite (Olympic and professional). Throughout our discussion, she provides advice for those interested in psychology and also offers specific advice to those interested in the field of sport psychology. Dr. Haugen literally travelled coast to coast to gain experience and education in the field of psychology. She provides insight into why she selected the University of North Dakota in Grand Forks for her doctorate in clinical psychology. Dr. Haugen travelled to Connecticut to complete her pre-doctoral internship at River Valley Services/Connecticut Valley Hospital in Middletown. She completed her post-doctoral residency at the University of California, Davis Medical Center in Sacramento, CA. She then returned home because she had the opportunity to work at the Assessment and Therapy Associates of Grand Forks (ATAGF) and has been working there ever since she received her license. She is not only a clinician, she is also the Director of Continuing Education and Training at ATAGF. During our discussion, Dr. Haugen talks about psychological flexibility and states that it is “an evidence-based principle and it really describes everything that I’m doing all day with athletes.” She proudly describes herself as a “nerdy kid at heart” and has always been interested in people and why they do what they do. I would say she is an “athletic nerd” because she has always been involved in athletics including anything from basketball to track to now focusing on triathlons (with the help of her border collie mix rescue dogs). I also learned that Dr. Haugen swore that she would never be in a relationship with another psychologist yet, here she is, happily married to a psychologist who specializes in couples and relationship work. You can listen to the podcast to find out what kind of fancy psychological terms they use when they argue. Connect with Dr. Erin Haugen: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn | InstagramConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/674908286 Interests and Specializations Dr. Erin Haugen specializes in sport psychology, elite performance, stress management, sport mental training, adult psychological assessments, professional well-being and overall mental health. She works with athletes from over 20 different sports ranging from recreational to elite (Olympic and professional). Education Bachelor of Arts (B.A.), Psychology & Honors (2001); University of North Dakota, Grand Forks, NDMaster of Arts (M.A.), Psychology (2003); University of North Dakota, Grand Forks, ND.Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.), Clinical Psychology (2006); University of North Dakota, Grand Forks, ND.Certified Mental Performance Consultant (CMPC), Certified Consultant (2014); Association for Applied Sport Psychology. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Erin Haugen APA ProfileDr. Erin Haugen profile - UND AthleticsDr. Erin Haugen article - Grand Forks Herald Podcast Transcription 00:00:11 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Erin Haugen to the show. Dr. Haugen works at the Assessment and Therapy Associates of Grand Forks (ATAGF) and is the only licensed sport psychologist in North Dakota. She is also an adjunct faculty member in the Department of Psychology at the University of North Dakota. Today, we will learn more about her academic and professional journey and get a glimpse into how it feels to work with athletes from over 20 different sports ranging from recreational to elite. Dr. Haugen, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:01 ErinThank you so much Bradley. I'm very excited to be here with you today. 00:01:05 BradleyWell, I'm excited to talk to you about your, your job, your occupation, your academic and professional journey as well. To start us off, tell me what originally sparked your interest in clinical psychology, and then in particular, sports psychology. 00:01:22 ErinYou know, I have been that kid, so I'm a, I'm a nerdy kid at heart. I've always been interested in people and, and why they do what they do. Uhm, I'm back from, like the encyclopedia era, so I was always in the psychology sections of encyclopedias. We had a lot of books at home related to just mental health and well-being and, and just so curious about it. Uhm, I actually though didn't even know what a psychologist was until I was actually an undergrad. I actually went to undergrad with the intention of becoming a psychiatrist because I'm, I'm from rural North Dakota, didn't know anything about higher education. I'm the first one to go to college in my family. And so basically, it wasn't until my intro to psychology honors professor kind of pulled me aside and said, Erin, I actually think you want to be a psychologist instead of a psychiatrist. And he was correct, fortunately, because medical school would have been a very different route. And then you know, just like I said, my, my, my passion for, for just understanding people and why they do what they do, and then combine that with I’m, I'm a lifelong athlete. I was basketball player and sprinter in high school. I took a little break as I often tell people during Graduate School from sports and then I'm now in triathlons and things like that and running and whatnot, and so when I was introduced to working with athletes, became very aware of this performance piece that's simply present for a lot of elite athletes and a few Google searches later kind of fell into sport psychology and the discipline of sport psychology. And as good nerds do, then you pursue, pursue more education and training and here we are. So, lots of nerding out is probably my, my answer to your question about what you do. 00:03:03 BradleyWell, that's a, that's a good summary, and I like the your summary and, and the one thing that I did notice when researching you in preparation for this podcast is yeah, you are a triathlete. You had you had four dogs, now you're down to three and, and so I, I see everything that you, you know kind of led up to your occupation right now and, and what a niche you have, you must feel very fortunate and lucky that you have that niche at UND and North Dakota as well. Well, when I was researching, I didn't find enough information on your undergraduate experiences, so tell me where did you attend and what undergraduate degree did you receive? Tell me a little bit more about your undergraduate experiences. 00:03:47 ErinI actually got my undergrad, grad (Master's and PhD) from UND the University of North Dakota in Grand Forks. My undergrad degree is actually in psychology in honors, UM, basically, so I did my undergrad degree in three years, which I would not recommend in any way, shape, or form. 00:03:54 BradleyOK. 00:04:04 ErinUhm, but I did that because I knew I was going to go on and get a PhD so that's really kind of where I got a little bit of exposure to sport psychology. Not a ton, I took one sport related class in undergrad. Uhm, but basically kind of stuck close to home and decided that's where I was going to do all of my education. 00:04:20 BradleyWell, that almost answers my next question is how did you decide on going to UND for your undergrad? It was close to home, I hear. Anything else? 00:04:29 ErinYeah, you know it was actually, believe it or not, a kind of a toss-up between UND or the University of Minnesota, Twin Cities and, uhm it's kind of funny because I, I, I grew up on a farm in rural North Dakota and I remember my mom talking to me about, you know, Erin I, I don't know that downtown Minneapolis for your first time away from home is really what you want to do given you don't have anyone that lives anywhere near you. Let's try a semester or two at UND and then you can transfer. And I I'm glad, at that point in my life, that that I started close to home. I'm, I'm still excited. My education was fantastic at UND, but it really I, I think such a transition coming from rural North Dakota to even the quote unquote Big City of Grand Forks, which is hilarious because it's not a big city was really it. It, it was the right fit for me. In so many different ways. 00:05:17 BradleyWell, it sounds like it, and I think you know, or I might have shared with you that I finished my undergrad at UND as well. And so yes, I,

20: Tania Diaz, Psy.D. – Clinical Psychologist who Finds Her Purpose by Following Her Heart Jan 31, 2022

Dr. Tania Diaz started her journey by pursuing business but soon realized that she wasn’t happy. When asked what ignited her interest in psychology, she contemplated if she picked the discipline or if the discipline picked her. In this podcast, Dr. Diaz answers this question and shares her academic and professional journey in hopes that it will help others find their purpose by following their heart. She explains how many of her experiences, including her internship and residency, helped to solidify her drive to become a clinical psychologist. With over 25 years of clinical experience in the mental health field, Dr. Diaz is the founder, and owner, of the Comprehensive Assessment Center (CAC), a private practice in Miami Lakes, FL. During our discussion, she reveals the reasons why she founded the Center and explains some of the challenges of opening your own business. She also provides advice to those interested in opening their own business or practice. Dr. Diaz is unique in many ways. She is Hispanic, Cuban by descent. She shares how her internship at Nicklaus Children’s Hospital impacted her view, and focus, on helping families, adolescents, and children deal with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), attention deficit, depression, anxiety, and other conditions. Dr. Diaz also shares her experiences during her residency at Everglades Correctional Institution, an all-male maximum security prison. She said that one of the biggest takeaways was “my inner transformation and how my lens changed about the prison system and the inmates within the prison system. And I thought to myself, you know, there are a lot of good people that make really poor choices.” Throughout the podcast interview, Dr. Diaz provides valuable insight and advice to those who are having a difficult time figuring out what they should do with their lives. She believes that if you want to find your purpose, you should follow your heart or gut. She shares how, and why, she followed her heart as an 18- or 19-year-old to become a teacher and a licensed clinical psychologist. Dr. Diaz reveals that she is now taking a leap of faith and making another change in her life and professional journey based on her intuition. She is focusing more on her clinical work and is exploring how quantum psychology may help her clients. She also discusses why she became a Certified Heartmath Trainer and how it can help individuals “gain higher levels of what we call coherence.” She further explains the role the amygdala plays in heart rhythm technology and how it can help people reduce and avoid stress in their lives. She then suggests checking out the app called Smiling Mind if you are interested in mindfulness and meditation. Connect with Dr. Tania Diaz: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn | YoutubeConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/671617917 Interests and Specializations Dr. Tania Diaz has over 25 years of clinical experience in the mental health field. She specializes in the treatment of anxiety, depression, and offers assistance and mentoring to help her clients find their life purpose and find meaning in their daily activities. As founder, and owner, of the Comprehensive Assessment Center (CAC), the team of bilingual licensed clinicians specialize “in the areas of Clinical Psychology, Child Psychology and assessment. We provide an array of services to children, adolescents, and adults.” Education Bachelor of Science (B.S.), Psychology (1993); Nova Southeastern University, Fort Lauderdale, FL.Doctor of Psychology (Psy.D.), Clinical Psychology (1999); Carlos Albizu University, Miami, FL. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Tania Diaz at NSU Podcast Transcription 00:00:12 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we will welcome Dr. Tania Diaz to the show. Dr. Diaz is founder and owner of the Comprehensive Assessment Center (CAC) in Miami Lakes, FL. She received her bachelor's degree from Nova Southeastern University in Fort Lauderdale, FL and her doctorate in clinical psychology from Carlos Albizu University in Miami. Today we will learn more about her academic journey, advice for those interested in clinical psychology and those interested in starting their own business or practice. Dr. Diaz, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:01 TaniaWell, thank you so much for having me on Bradley. Greatly appreciated and thank you for the invitation. Always happy to help. 00:01:08 BradleyWell, thank you I, I'm excited to talk a little bit more about your academic journey as well as what changes you're going through now and how you started your business. But first I want to ask one question that a lot of our listeners are going to ask and wonder what ignited your interest in psychology, particularly, in clinical psychology. 00:01:29 TaniaYou know that's a great question Bradley. And really you have to kind of think you know; did I pick the actual, you know, venue, the discipline or did the discipline actually pick me? And, and the answer is, the discipline picked me because when I got out of the gate, I wanted to finish school quickly, make lots of money, retire early, and that's all I wanted. And I was that one kid in high school that everybody went to to talk to, to share. That I would be able to hold space for and when I started my journey, I started pursuing business and I really wasn't happy. Yeah, I didn't like my courses. Wasn't doing relatively well in them. I took all my electives in psychology, and I was really engaged, and I really had this strong affinity. And I was really enjoying it all, straight A's, didn't even have to study a whole lot. It just came natural. And then there was this one course. It was a self-actualization course and this 5-foot two African American female. Sat in front of the class, she was the facilitator at the time, and just kind of looked out and I could have sworn, Bradley, she was talking directly at me because she was discerning between do you want to make lots of money and be unsatisfied with the rest of your life? Or do you want to love what you do and never have to work a day in your life, you see. And she sat there, and she spoke to all of us, and she said, and if you feel that you don't know enough or you are not smart enough or you don't have the drive enough, well, I’m here to tell you that if I can do it, anybody can do it because I am challenged in three ways. I'm a woman. I'm black. And I'm vertically challenged 'cause she was only 5’2”. After that class, the following day, I went and I changed my major from business to psychology 'cause I knew, I knew that's what I wanted to do. 00:03:36 BradleyWell, that's very impactful. And thank you for sharing that story. It seems like I, I hear a lot of those. It comes down to one event, one class, one person that opened up your eyes to Oh my gosh, this is something that I could do. And you know you were saying you were doing so well, and it came naturally. You were probably considering it. And then she was probably the one in that class was probably the one to kind of push you over the edge to move forward and make that change in your major. 00:04:03 TaniaYeah, well, you know what, Bradley? It's interesting 'cause I wasn't even considering it because I really didn't think that I had the tenacity that had the resilience that I had, you know, the ability to really, almost like sacrifice. You know bits and pieces of your life because it is, if you're going to go for your doctorate, it's a long tenure, you see. But looking back, you know you just take one course at a time, one semester at a time, and before you know it, you've arrived and you're doing exactly what you're meant to be doing. The purpose in your life has found you as opposed to you finding your purpose truly. We just have to allow it to happen. 00:04:45 BradleyWell, that's a good take on it, and that's a good way to almost reduce your anxieties a little bit more instead of having to search out. A lot of people, I remember as an undergrad I was “What am I going to do?” You know? And then, all of a sudden, it just kind of comes to you and you figure that out in time. So, getting back to let's, let's kind of talk about your undergraduate experiences, at what point did you know that you, you wanted to go for your bachelor's degree and was it a BA or a BS? I couldn't find that information out. 00:05:16 TaniaYeah, no, it's the Bachelor of Science from Nova Southeastern University and, and, Bradley, just you said it best. You know, undergraduate you just you just don't know. You know there's so many options and it becomes overwhelming and maybe not even being informed of all the intricacies of so many choices. What they all kind of roll out to be? So, I would go to library and I was a struggling student, so I really didn't have a scholarship and I really didn't have, I guess, financial support and so I've kind of put myself through school, so I was going into the library and consulting with the librarian and back then it was the card catalog and trying to find out, you know, what type of scholarships there were and I, I did a search in terms of what careers were out there and what were they paying and what were the number of years and minimum requirements. So, I was doing a lot of data collection. Anxiety through the roof because I had no idea, and you see. And, like you said, it's just you have to put a little bit of the effort in and you're going to have to trust the process and people are going to cross your path that are going to guide you that are going to influence you,

19: Sarah A. Raskin, Ph.D. – Distinguished Professor who Blends Psychology and Neuroscience Jan 18, 2022

In this podcast, Dr. Sarah Raskin uses her hippocampus to recall what ignited her interest in neuropsychology. She walks us down memory lane and explains why she chose Johns Hopkins University for her B.A. in Behavioral Biology and the City University of New York (CUNY) Graduate Center for her Ph.D. in Neuropsychology. She also discusses her ReMIND Lab, her recent research, and offers practical advice to those interested in getting a graduate degree in neuropsychology. From the time she took her first class with David Olton called Physiological Psychology, Dr. Raskin was hooked. During our discussion, Dr. Raskin revealed that she actually teaches the same class now at Trinity College, but it is called Brain and Behavior. Continuing our walk down memory lane, she recalls jumping at the chance to enroll in Dr. Olton’s newly created program called Behavioral Biology which Dr. Raskin believes might have been “one of the very first programs in what we would now call Neuroscience.” Ever since then, she has been enthralled with blending psychology and neuroscience. Apparently, she is not the only one as more and more fields of study are now incorporating a component of neuroscience or psychology (or both) into their lines of research. What is clear during my discussion with Dr. Raskin is her love for her students, her research, and her career at Trinity College. She states “I really fell in love with Trinity” because “…it felt like the right fit for me. It felt like a life where I could be happy.” Dr. Raskin is the Director of the Neuroscience program at Trinity College, and she has a joint appointment (half neuroscience and half psychology), so she is always thinking about increasing awareness of both programs and how to help students. Therefore, it was no surprise to me that she offered practical advice to those interested in psychology or neuroscience throughout our discussion. In fact, she took a few minutes to highlight how the neuroscience program at Trinity College is really unique. Dr. Raskin explains how neuropsychology is different from the other branches of psychology. She also discusses the ReMIND Lab and some of her recent work on prospective memory and the tests she and her colleagues created specifically to measure this concept. Dr. Raskin and I then highlighted some of the organizations and resources available to those interested in neuropsychology including APA Division 40: The Society for Clinical Neuropsychology, International Neuropsychological Society (INS), KnowNeuropsychology, the upcoming NEURON Conference 2022, and the ReMIND prospective memory training page. One of Dr. Raskin’s favorite theories is Hebb’s rule and Hebbian theory from 1949. The idea that learning something new actually changes your brain physiologically, at the synaptic level, way before anyone could test it, was “so prescient.” Near the end of the podcast interview, Dr. Raskin revealed that she is writing a book on what she is conceptualizing as preventable brain injuries. She is Co-writing each chapter with someone who has lived the experience. For example, one chapter is with a woman who had a severe brain injury from domestic violence, and it includes her medical history, personal history and experiences, and her neuropsychology assessment. Another chapter is with a man who experienced a gunshot wound to the head. Given Dr. Raskin’s passion and drive, I am sure the book and remaining chapters will be powerful and moving. Connect with Dr. Sarah Raskin: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedInConnect with the Show: Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/667013727 Interests and Specializations Dr. Sarah Raskin’s research focuses on better understanding neuroplasticity and its applications in creating cognitive interventions for people with brain injury. She is particularly interested in prospective memory which is the ability to remember to do things in the future. She and her colleagues developed specific tests to measure prospective memory including one for adults (MIST – Memory for Intentions Screening Test) and one for children (MISTY - Memory for Intentions Screening Test for Youth). Education Bachelor of Arts (B.A.), Behavioral Biology (1984); Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, MD.Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.), Neuropsychology (1990); City University of New York (CUNY) Graduate Center, New York, NY. Other Sources and Links of Interest City University of New York (CUNY) Graduate CenterJohns Hopkins University - Behavioral BiologyDr. Sarah Raskin on Google ScholarRemembering to remember: prospective memory in children with epilepsy Podcast Transcription 00:00:11 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Sarah Raskin to the show. Dr. Raskin is a Professor of Psychology and Neuroscience at Trinity College. She received her BA in Behavioral Biology from Johns Hopkins University and her doctorate in Neuropsychology from CUNY in New York. Today we will learn more about her academic journey, advice for those interested in blending neuroscience and psychology, the ReMIND Lab, and learn more about her lines of research. Dr. Raskin, welcome to our podcast. 00:00:58 SarahThank you so much for having me. I'm happy to be here. 00:01:01 BradleyWell, I'm excited to talk to you more about your academic journey and your professional journey as well. And you know to start off, tell us, what ignited your interest in neuropsychology in the beginning. 00:01:14 SarahUhm, so originally, I was a biology major, and I was interested in biochemistry and then a good friend of college friend of mine who's a psychologist now himself was a psychology major and he said you have to take this class in physiological psychology, which we would now call brain and behavior. I actually teach the exact same course myself now. And I said, you know, I'm not really interested in psychology, and he said, but this professor is amazing. You just have to take this class. And I did, and it was phenomenal. So, I would recommend to anybody who's still in an educational environment to just take classes in anything, branch out, find out what ignites your passion. You never know. You know, don't say no. So, I took this class with this amazing professor Dave Olton and he, at the end of the class, invited anybody who was interested to do research in his lab. And so again, the professor makes that offer, take it, if you possibly can, if you have the time and the ability. Uhm, and I just couldn't get enough, we were doing research on hippocampus and memory, uhm, using a rat model but, uhm, but I found it really exciting, and I did it throughout my undergraduate career. And then at some point I walked into his office and said, you know, Doctor Olton, I love what we do. I love studying memory. Does anybody do this with humans? 00:02:40 BradleyYeah, so… 00:02:41 SarahSure, that's called neuropsychology. 00:02:43 BradleyRight, right? Of course. So, for our listeners, tell us a little bit more about how is neuropsychology different than the other branches of psychology, and what I'm going to do while we do this is I'm just going to share my screen real quick because, you know, we were talking before the show here that you know a lot of people in high school or undergrad are thinking well, I'm interested in psychology, but how in the world do I make a choice on, you know, all these different branches of psychology out here, and you know how did you come to the realization, I have a feeling, I have a guess that I know, but kind of let us know how is neuropsychology different than all these other branches of psychology that we have on the page here versus why didn't you go into personality psychology or anything else? I think it is because you already mentioned you were always interested in the brain, so I don't want to answer for you. But tell us a little bit more about that. 00:03:40 SarahYeah, so I. I really knew very little about psychology and you know, full disclosure, that's really one of the only psychology courses I took as an undergrad. I did take a neuropsychology course, which was great my senior year, so yeah, so neuropsychology is the branch of psychology that's interested in the relationship between the brain and behavior. And so traditionally, neuro psychologists have worked with people with neurologic illnesses. So traumatic brain injuries or strokes or Parkinson's disease or people do developmental work with people who have ADHD or autism but always around the idea of what's the relationship between the brain and behavior and, and obviously these borders have gotten muddied somewhat because I think almost every branch of psychology now is interested in neural underpinnings. Understanding how the brain I mean, except for a few people, understanding how the brain underlies some of the things that we're talking about, and even some psychotherapists who are interested in how therapy can induce brain plasticity. So, so I think that there is great overlap now that these lines are not so firm. But I think if what you're really interested in is how the brain leads to some of the behaviors that we are interested in psychology, including cognition and social behaviors. If you're interested in neurologic disorders, if you're interested in going into a career where you maybe do neuropsychological assessments so you could have a private practice where people come to see you to get diagnosed and find out you know why is my child not doing so well in school or how am I doing after that car accident then I think neuropsychology is, is the field that may be calling to you.

18: Malissa A. Clark, Ph.D. – Well-known Researcher and Professor in the Growing Field of I/O Psychology Offers Practical Advice to Students Jan 13, 2022

When Dr. Malissa Clark graduated from The University of Michigan with her B.A. in Organizational Studies, she wasn’t planning on attending graduate school, let alone knowing that she would eventually end up in the growing field of Industrial/Organizational (I/O) Psychology. In this podcast interview, Dr. Clark shares her unique academic and career journey while offering tips and suggestions to students who want to increase their chances of getting accepted into a graduate school or program in the field of psychology. She also discusses the Work and Family Experience Research (WAFER) Lab and how she ended up at the University of Georgia as an Associate Professor of I/O Psychology. Dr. Clark recalls working “a lot of different jobs growing up and some of them were kind of crazy sales jobs.” She sold knives in high school and sold books door to door in college. Upon graduating, she worked in sales for a couple of years before realizing that she wasn’t happy with her career choice. To help figure out what she should do, she thought back to the classes that she really liked and what kept coming to mind for her was an Organizational Psychology class taught by Dr. Fiona Lee. After looking her up and looking into the field further, she realized that there were graduate programs in I/O Psychology and decided to go back to school. She applied to many graduate schools and when she received some offers, she was surprised to find out that they were going to pay her to be a graduate student. Even during her graduate career, Dr. Clark never thought that she would be a professor. She kept thinking that she would do something in business or some sort of consulting work. During our discussion, she reminisces about her graduate experiences and how she realized that she “really loved this research stuff” and began thinking that she would like a career in academics. Dr. Clark admits that she loves the flexibility of being a researcher and professor within the field of psychology. She states, “I love the fact that I get to engage in research, and I get paid for it.” She feels like she is always a student and always learning and absorbing new information from her research and her students. Later in the podcast, Dr. Clark discusses her experiences serving as Chair of the APA Division 14 Program (Society for Industrial and Organizational Psychology [SIOP]) 2020-2021 and what areas of research she enjoys most. When asked if she had the time and money to complete one project or go on one trip, what would she do? She is into travel hacking and she would love to travel the world. Connect with Dr. Malissa A. Clark: Facebook | Linkedin | TwitterConnect with the Show: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter https://vimeo.com/665141314 Interests and Specializations Dr. Malissa Clark’s research focuses on employee well-being and the intersection of work and family domains. Her research streams loosely follow three main areas including (a) work-family conflict, (b) workaholism, and (c) emotions at work and home. Education Bachelor of Arts (B.A.), Organizational Studies (2002); The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI.Master of Arts (M.A.), Industrial/Organizational Psychology (2007); Wayne State University, Detroit, MI.Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.), Industrial/Organizational Psychology (2010); Wayne State University, Detroit, MI. Other Sources and Links of Interest University of Georgia Department of PsychologyUniversity of Michigan Department of PsychologyWayne State University Department of PsychologyDr. Malissa Clark on Google ScholarOwens Institute for Behavioral Research Dr. Malissa Clark Video Podcast Transcription 00:00:13 Bradley SchumacherWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host Brad Schumacher and today we welcome Dr. Malissa Clark to the show. Dr. Clark is well known in the field of Industrial Organizational Psychology and has served as chair of the APA Division 14 which is the Society for Industrial and Organizational Psychology or SIOP. She is currently an Associate Professor of I/O Psychology in Franklin College of Arts and Sciences at the University of Georgia. Today we will learn more about her academic journey, advice for those interested in the field of psychology, the WAFER Lab, and learn a little bit more about her lines of research. Dr. Clark, welcome to our podcast. 00:01:03 Dr. Malissa ClarkHi Brad, thank you so much for having me. 00:01:05 BradleyWell, thank you for taking the time to be with us today. I've read a lot of your research and I find it very interesting how it's evolved over the recent years as we were talking about before we started this podcast. But before we get started, I kind of wanted to ask you a general question, what made you gravitate toward psychology in general? And then what sparked your interest, in particular, about industrial organizational psychology. 00:01:32 MalissaWell, so we'll probably get into some of the details throughout the podcast, but you know, I really didn't have a lot of background in psychology. In high school there was never a class in psychology, so when I got to college, I just found myself really liking and enjoying those classes as opposed to other classes that, you know, you just have to take as part of your prereqs and curriculum, but these ones I actually looked forward to going to. And I had, you know, never heard of industrial organizational psychology. But I saw this class and it was called organizational psychology and I thought, well, that sounds pretty interesting and I like psychology classes, so I'm going to check this out and I loved it. I just found every day just fascinating and, uhm, so really, you know going, like going into college I thought I was going to do something business related. But then I liked these psychology classes almost better than the business classes. And then I realized I can combine the two, and so that's where kind of my interests gravitated towards I/O Psychology is what we call it. But still didn't quite form what I wanted to do with my career till actually much later. But yeah, I just found it really interesting and I like, you know, learning about different theories and how they apply to the real world. And I just love how applicable it is. We all have to work right? So, why not understand how we can enjoy our work and how we can be more productive and be more happy and, uhm, yeah, so I just, that's kind of how I got into the area. 00:03:13 BradleyOK, well that's a good explanation. It, it, it probably has evolved. I/O has probably evolved over the years, because of most people having to travel to work and now obviously that has changed and, and I almost feel like the swing of the pendulum has changed. OK, now more people are working from home. Oh, now we're good to go back to work. Oh, I take that back now. The second wave has come and we’ve got to stay back at home, so it'll be interesting to talk about some of your findings later. I did notice that you received a Bachelor of Arts in Organizational Studies from the University of Michigan. So, two questions there. Why did you select the University of Michigan and is that, was that class kind of a precursor for I/O? Or was it a totally different realm? 00:04:00 MalissaUhm, OK so. First, the question of Michigan. I come from, well, I grew up in Michigan and I come from actually Michigan household. We were fans of football team growing up my whole life. My stepdad went there. My older brother went there and after me my two younger sisters went there. So, five of us and my immediately immediate family went to Michigan so I was a lifelong fan. And it's a great school obviously. So I always knew I was going to apply to Michigan, and so it really wasn't on my radar to apply to a bunch of other schools. I actually only applied to one other school. I wanted to apply to Michigan State as a backup, as like my backup school. If I didn't get into Michigan and my stepdad actually, I kid you not, he ripped up my application and said I won't help with college at all if you, if you go to Michigan State, that's how much we hate each other. This rivalry so my backup was Michigan U of M Flint the satellite school close to where I lived so that was it. It was Michigan or nothing. As far as college, and so the organizational studies major, it's sort of, in hindsight, related to I/O psychology, but that wasn't really how I thought of it. I was kind of all over the place in college, like probably a lot of your listeners not really knowing exactly what they want to do. Again, I always thought I would do something related to business, but thought it would be more consulting. So you know my sophomore year or junior year, the major started, it was brand new and it was really, I think, geared towards people like me that at that point didn't know what they wanted to do. You take 3 concentrations and you form your own major, at that point. It's evolved since then, it's become much more formalized. So, I took psychology and communications and business and said, well, this is my major that's Organizational Studies and so, you know, I just took classes in those three areas as my focus and what was really cool is you can kind of craft it to be however you want so. Uhm, that organizational studies major it sounds like, Oh well, that would be a precursor to I/O, but actually it was, I think, a function of me not knowing what I wanted to do at that point in my life and just taking the classes that I found most interesting. But in hindsight, that's actually completely applicable to the field of I/O Psychology and kind of what we focus on. 00:06:29 BradleyIt sounds, it sounds…right. 00:06:29 MalissaWell,

17: Damon A. Silas, Psy.D. – Clinical Psychologist, Author, and EFT Tapping Expert who Loves Connecting, Learning, Growing…and Dancing Jan 05, 2022

Dr. Damon A. Silas grew up in a military family so even though he was born in Massachusetts, he was only there for a short while before his dad received orders to move to California. Dr. Silas recalls that he grew up a lot in Oklahoma and moved back and forth between Oklahoma and Massachusetts as well as California. In this podcast interview, Dr. Silas shares what sparked his interest in psychology, his academic journey, and why he wrote “From Mourning to Knight: Overcoming Loss.” He also discusses Emotional Freedom Techniques (EFT) or Tapping as well as the role of hypnosis in therapy. Throughout the interview, Dr. Silas provides helpful advice to those interested in starting a career in psychology and specific advice to those wanting to open their own practice. Based on my research and interview with Dr. Damon Silas, another appropriate title of this podcast interview could be “Clinical Psychologist on the Move.” Dr. Silas has been on the move in some way, shape, and form ever since he was a little kid. One of the ways he has been on the move is physically. Dr. Silas has physically moved many times due to the fact that his father, Ernest “T” Silas, was a member of the United States Air Force (USAF) and would receive orders to move to another base or installation. He has also physically moved multiple times as a grown up and is currently in Germany serving as a Military and Family Life Counselor. Dr. Silas is constantly moving his academic and educational experiences forward by exploring new ways and techniques to offer help to his clients and patients. He is licensed in NC, DC, and MD and has his own practice in NC “Damon Silas Psychology – Energy Psychology and Mindfulness Therapy.” He is an Emotional Freedom Techniques (EFT) Member and a National Guild of Hypnotists (NGH) Member since 2016. At one point during our discussion, Dr. Silas said that his dad was “always a student” and “was always studying” so it came as no surprise to me that “Dr. D.”, as his clients know him, is also constantly learning and challenging himself. His most recent book “What’s Your Action Plan? 6 Powerful Ways to Get Unstuck in Your Life Now!” is designed to help people get back on track and get out of a “rut” in life. Dr. Silas experienced significant events that were emotionally moving so much so that he started writing “From Mourning to Knight: Overcoming Loss” as a journal entry after his dad passed away from Alzheimer’s related complications. He learned many things from his dad including the need to document your significant emotional events, those times that really stood out to you as important parts and pieces of your evolution and your growth. He also recognized the importance of therapy for himself while he had to deal with grief and loss in his own life. Dr. D loves connecting with his patients, especially the kids. He said “they crack me up daily” and “I wear a mask so a lot of times they can’t see me crack up.” When working with his clients, he believes “we should all be learning and growing together” as he is not necessarily the expert, rather, he is a guide. Dr. Silas discusses the freedom afforded to him with his degree in psychology as it allows him the ability to move his schedule, move his focus, and the freedom to create and be a part of real powerful movements. He is the co-founder of Black Tappers United which is “a collective of Black EFT Tapping practitioners whose goal it is to bring tapping to the black community in a safe, affordable and effective way.” Dr. D is also on the move as a professional dancer and uses his skills as a co-developer and co-facilitator of Movement Genius where he also hosts “Daily Resets with Dr. Damon” and “Open Movement Workshops” which help people improve mental, emotional, and physical well-being. You can also watch him move and get his groove on by viewing his Mid Day Dance Break on TikTok. Connect with Dr. Damon A. Silas: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter | YouTube | Instagram | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter https://vimeo.com/662184227 Interests and Specializations Dr. Damon Silas has spent almost 20 years in the field of psychology and has worked with a variety of populations and issues. He specializes in anxiety and trauma as well as grief and loss. Along the way, he has discovered the benefits of hypnosis and EFT Tapping and has incorporated these therapy techniques into his practice. He is currently serving as a Military and Family Life Counselor in Germany helping children, parents, and staff members deal with the stress and anxiety associated with military service. Recently, Dr. Silas co-founded Black Tappers United and is co-developer and co-facilitator of Movement Genius. Education Bachelor of Science (B.S.), Psychology (1997); Howard University, Washington, DC, Phi Beta Kappa.Doctor of Psychology (Psy.D.), Psychology (2002), The George Washington University, Washington, DC. Other Sources and Links of Interest Black Tappers United on FacebookHoward University Department of PsychologyThe George Washington University Department of Psychological and Brain Sciences Podcast Transcription 00:13 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Damon Silas to the show. Dr. Silas has been a psychologist for over 15 years and is licensed in North Carolina, DC, and Maryland. He owns his own private practice in North Carolina and specializes in anxiety and trauma, as well as grief and loss. In fact, he wrote a book From Mourning to Knight: Overcoming Loss” and has a blog and many videos on various topics. Today we will learn more about his academic journey, advice for those interested in the field of psychology, emotional freedom techniques, and discuss why he is currently in Germany. Dr. Silas, welcome to our podcast.01:11 DamonThank you so much Brad. It's so great to be here. I'm excited to have this conversation.01:17 BradleySo, Germany. I've done some research on you. I, I know that you at one point had some family in Germany. Is that why you are there now? Or, if not, tell us why.01:26 DamonNo, it just so happens that the job that I have now coincides with also having family in in Germany, so it's a nice fit uhm, and it's, it's work I've actually done before in the past probably 12-13 years ago. It's been a while so it's a return to work I've done before working with military families, and um, and it also is nice that I have family close, close by as well.01:53 BradleyThat's an added benefit. Being able to work in the same area that and travel and then see your family at the same time.02:00 DamonAbsolutely.02:01 BradleySo, I usually ask some questions, kind of in chronological order about hey, why did you go to this school, that school? How did you make those decisions? But the first thing I want to ask you is what originally sparked your interest in the field of psychology.02:17 DamonUh, so this is an interesting one. First and foremost, I, I feel like I was always the person who people would come to and, and talk to about their issues, their problems, whatever was stressing them out. And that was from the time when I was in high school, if not even before and so I was always the shoulder that people leaned on when they needed, and so that was the first thing. The second thing is, I had to choose a major in college. And I was like, let's do psychology. So, so that was kind of, there's actually a little bit more to that story, but I can share it a little later, but that's primarily the, the main reason is just knowing how people would come to me for help and support and figuring I might as well make a career out of it.03:11 BradleyWell, that's a good story. A lot of people, believe it or not, start saying the same thing. I seem to be the person who people come to, to talk and release and everything, and so it's there's a reoccurring theme with a, a lot of my guests and, and people that I talked to, so that's interesting. I see that you received your Bachelor of Science in Psychology from Howard University in Washington DC. Why did you select Howard University?03:38 DamonThat one is really easy; they provided a full ride for me. Oh, so I kind of went where the money was. Uh no, but that is definitely a huge reason. But the other reason was, you know, for me it was important to go to a school that supported me in all ways, not only financially, but emotionally and, uhm, you know where I was in my development at that time, I grew up in. I actually went to school and I primarily a white area. So out of, excuse me, about 1600 people in the high school, there were probably 10 people of color. Three of those were myself and my siblings. So, there weren't many, and so for me it was important to be around other people who look like me and Howard University being a Historically Black College and University (HBCU) that actually provided me with that, that, that type of education and support that I needed at that time in my life.04:51 BradleyAnd it's interesting that you mentioned that…I read the first part of your book and acknowledgements and everything were in there and you talked about your siblings and you talked about your dad and your mom, and we're going to get to one of the interesting phrases that your, your dad, Ernest T. Silas, always said later on in the interview as well, but, one thing that a lot of our guests usually ask is yes, money is the issue and I'm glad that you touched on the importance of having that that supportive community and, and tools and resources available to you in the school that you're attending not only think about the money. Sure, that's important,

16: Robert A. Bjork & Elizabeth L. Bjork, Ph.D. – Dynamic Duo and Pillars of Cognitive Research in Psychological Science Dec 06, 2021

Drs. Elizabeth and Robert Bjork have enjoyed long, illustrious careers as cognitive researchers in psychology and have been with the UCLA Department of Psychology for over 45 years. They have received multiple awards and recognitions for their research, teaching, mentorship, and leadership within the field of psychology. To say they have had a profound impact on psychology would be an understatement. In this podcast interview, Drs. Robert and Elizabeth Bjork reminisce about their professional and personal journeys over the past 50+ years in hopes that their experiences and advice inspire those interested in the field of psychology and motivate those already in the field. Robert and Elizabeth each grew up in different parts of the United States yet had several things in common even before they met. They both began their academic journey by earning their B.A. in Mathematics – Robert at the University of Minnesota and Elizabeth at the University of Florida. Both were drawn to psychology late in their undergraduate career when they took a course in psychology. When they each started their graduate careers, they gravitated even more toward psychology after finding the research in psychology more interesting than the research being done in physics and math. Robert states “I, like Elizabeth, had just taken a course in psychology very late and I said ‘Well, that looks like a field where there’s a lot to learn and it’s early in its history as opposed to physics,’ and so I switched to psychology, mathematical psychology, in particular.” Another similarity they shared is how and why they each selected their graduate program and school. Elizabeth selected the University of Michigan because her advisor said it had the best psychology program in the country. Robert selected Stanford University because his advisor informed him that it had the best psychology program and that a prominent figure, William (Bill) Estes, was moving to Stanford. As it turns out, at the time, Stanford University was ranked number 1 among all graduate programs in psychology and University of Michigan was ranked number 2. Both of them also ended up working with Bill Estes – Robert at Stanford University and Elizabeth at Rockefeller University. Now, how did they meet? As Dr. Robert Bjork explains, the first time he met Elizabeth was “when she came in to drop my course at the suggestion of her then boyfriend.” She was an advanced graduate student at the time, and he was a new professor. From the moment they started their academic and professional careers, they each blazed a trail and broke through barriers to become respected and revered researchers, mentors, and leaders within the field of psychology. They were among the first couples in the University of California system to hold professorial positions in the same psychology department and in this interview, they discuss some of the challenges associated with being a professional couple working in the same department when nepotism was still prevalent in the academic field. Drs. Robert and Elizabeth Bjork have received many honors and awards in their distinguished careers. In 2016, they both received the James McKeen Catell Fellow Award which is a lifetime achievement award for their research contributions addressing critical problems in society. The Bjorks are also revered and respected mentors and have been recognized for their teaching and mentorship. Recently, they received the 2020 APS Mentor Award for their work as co-directors of the Bjork Learning and Forgetting Lab as well as their work mentoring others throughout the years. According to the APS article highlighting them for their Mentor Award, of the more than 80 “honors, graduate, and postdoctoral students and scholars the Bjorks have co-mentored at UCLA, a staggering 57 (70 percent) have had successful academic careers in areas related to learning and memory.” Both of the Bjorks have also received Distinguished Teaching Awards, Distinguished Service Awards, and other Distinguished Mentoring Awards. You can view all of their awards on their faculty pages or on their vita. One final fun fact about our guests. What do Robert and Elizabeth Bjork have in common with Kermit the Frog and Miss Piggy? The Reverend Cyril Jenkins married both couples. Robert and Elizabeth were married in 1969 in New York while Kermit the Frog and Miss Piggy were (apparently) married in 1984 in the movie “The Muppets Take Manhattan.” The Bjorks shared a funny story and explained that after they saw this movie with their kids and told them they were married by the Reverend Cyril Jenkins, their kids were concerned if they were actually married. Rest assured, their marriage is real, and they have been happily married for over 53 years. Connect with Dr. Elizabeth L. Bjork: Faculty PageConnect with Dr. Robert A. Bjork: Faculty Page Connect with the Show: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter https://vimeo.com/653520108 Interests and Specializations Drs. Robert A. Bjork and Elizabeth L. Bjork are well-known cognitive research scientists in the field of psychology. Robert Bjork’s research focuses on memory and learning and the application of the science of learning for instruction and training in many different areas. Elizabeth Bjork’s research has been the study of memory and the role that inhibitory processes play in creating an adaptive human memory system. Recently, both of them have extended the work and application of “desirable difficulties” and “spacing” in the work they and their graduate students conduct in the Bjork Learning and Forgetting Lab at UCLA. Education Robert A. BjorkBachelor of Arts (B.A.), Mathematics (1961); University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, MN.Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.), Psychology (1966); Stanford University, Stanford, CA.Elizabeth L. BjorkBachelor of Arts (B.A.), Mathematics (1963), University of Florida, Gainesville, FL.Master of Arts (M.A.), Psychology (1966), University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI.Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.), Psychology (1968), University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Elizabeth L. Bjork - PublicationsDr. Robert A. Bjork - WikipediaDr. Robert A. Bjork - Google ScholarDr. Robert A. Bjork - Publications Podcast Transcription 00:00:14 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Drs. Elizabeth and Robert Bjork to the show. Dr. Elizabeth Bjork is Professor of Psychology and has served as Senior Vice Chair in the Psychology Department. She has also chaired UCLA's Academic Senate and received UCLA's Distinguished Teaching Award. Dr. Robert Bjork is Distinguished Research Professor in the Department of Psychology. He is Past President or Chair of numerous societies, including APS, Western Psychological Association, and the Council of Editors of the APA. He has also received UCLA Distinguished Teaching Award. Today, we will learn more about their academic journey, advice for those interested in the field of psychology, and discuss the Bjork Learning and Forgetting lab. Elizabeth and Robert…welcome to our podcast.00:01:18 ElizabethThank you good to be here.00:01:20 BradleyWell, thank you for taking the time to talk with me today. I'm so excited to learn more about your academic journey. You guys have had a long and distinguished career within the field of cognitive psychology, and you've traveled a lot as well. It's always surprising to see how much you travel with each other and then with your team on the on the lab as well. And then many sabbaticals. But to start us off.00:01:48 RobertIt's not very much traveling recently of course.00:01:49 BradleyWell, that's fine. You can, you can look back to all those times that you did travel though, so it's, it's. I'm excited to have you on the show. Let's go ahead and just get started and kind of open it up and tell me a little bit more about yourself. Elizabeth, why don't you go first?00:02:09 ElizabethOK, uhm. Well, I have always. I guess I have always been interested in learning. Just and not really how it works, but, uh, as a, as a child, you know, going through the grade school and so forth, I, I never found school aversive or drudgery or anything, I found it this opportunity to learn about new things and so I always found it sort of exciting. So, I always thought, and I also liked to uhm, I enjoyed interacting with friends who say I don't understand this problem, can you help me, and I would work with them. So, I kind of early on thought I wanted to somehow stay involved in education and learning. I didn't actually know anything about psychology. My undergraduate degree was in mathematics. I only took psychology because I needed it to fulfill a general education requirement my senior year. And. And there I found there was this, uhm, this field called mathematical psychology. And it sounded so intriguing. And I really, uh, I, I was drawn to the various problems that they, people on this field were working on. I then actually sought out at the University of Florida, which is where I was at the time, uh, the faculty there in psychology and, and, and I, and I interacted with some of the graduate students were there. How did you get interested? Uh, and decided, well, maybe I'll try to do something in this field, and so that's what kind of got me started in a very general way. As I said, I went to Graduate School knowing very little about psychology. Other than there was this field called mathematical psychology.00:04:13 RobertSo that's pretty different kind of story than mine. I just realized to some extent now that, uh, I was much more interested in sports and so on than I was in academics. And, uh,

15: Gerald S. Drose, Ph.D., L.P. – Experienced Psychologist Shares his Personal and Professional Journey in his New Novel Oct 20, 2021

Dr. Gerald Drose was born and raised in Charleston, SC in a tight-knit family. His father coached him in sports throughout his life and his mother worked as a playground director. Though he had a very active and playful childhood, he recalls that he was a little lost in his early adulthood. In this podcast interview, he explains how he found himself in a graduate program in clinical psychology and how his experiences inspired him to write his first novel “Bird Gotta Land: The Education of a Young Psychologist” which is loosely based on his time in graduate school. As a licensed psychologist with over 32 years of experience, Dr. Drose offers advice to those interested in the field of psychology and to those who want to start their own practice. He met his wife, Dina Zeckhausen, in grad school and explains why they founded Powers Ferry Psychological Associates. He discusses how they have grown from one location with 3 therapists to 4 locations with over 30 clinicians mainly through hard work, organic growth, and by providing a variety of assessment, psychotherapy, and special services. Dr. Drose highlights the importance of being fully present and alive in all of your life experiences and with clients. He states “…so you know psychotherapy is about landing, or becoming mindful…” and “…when you kind of feel like you understand, even if it’s a myth that you understand but you tell yourself you understand, you become mindful, you become more centered.” He also reminds us that there is an incredible need for psychotherapy and that this need “has grown exponentially” in recent years. Therefore, if you are interested in the field of psychology, get started now to help meet the need for more psychotherapists. Though Dr. Drose shares parts of his personal and professional journey to becoming a practicing psychologist in this podcast, we learn more about his experiences in his book through powerful and complex character development. We learn about the protagonist, Stephen, a graduate student in clinical psychology as well as the story lines surrounding his father, his young son, and his budding relationship with his girlfriend. The reader also gets drawn in to learn about his professors, classmates, and landlords. As an added bonus, we learn more about the game of softball and the color of his Karmann Ghia convertible. Those embarking on a graduate degree in psychology, going through psychotherapy, or simply on their own journey of self-awareness and personal growth will benefit from reading “Bird Gotta Land.” Connect with Dr. Gerald Drose: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter https://vimeo.com/637141210 Interests and Specializations Dr. Gerald S. Drose is a licensed psychologist who works with individuals and couples. He has published research on sex therapy and written a bi-weekly column on love, sex, and marriage. He has extensive training and experience in couples and sex-therapy and specializes in marital and premarital issues as well as relationship issues including anxiety, depression, divorce, family conflict, sexual addiction, and couples therapy. He uses multiple therapy techniques and approaches including Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), Hypnotherapy, Sex Therapy, Individual Therapy, and Couples Therapy. Education Bachelor of Arts (B.A.), Psychology (1981); University of South Carolina.Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.), Clinical-Community Psychology (1988); University of South Carolina. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Gerald Drose at PsychologyTodayDr. Gerald Drose at Amazon"Bird Gotta Land" at Amazon Podcast Transcription 00:00:12 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Gerald Drose to the show. Dr. Drose is a licensed psychologist and Co-founder of Powers Ferry Psychological Associates which has four locations in Georgia. He has been in the field for over 32 years and his practice offers assessment, therapy, and special services. Today, we will learn more about his academic journey, advice for those interested in the field of psychology, and discuss his new novel called “Bird Gotta Land: The Education of a Young Psychologist” which is about a graduate student in psychology and is loosely based on his time in grad school. Dr. Drose…welcome to our podcast.00:01:06 GeraldThank you, Brad. I'm glad to be here.00:01:09 BradleyWell, I'm excited to talk to you. I, I love doing all the research on my guests and yours is very interesting and a good variety and the timing of your novel coming out this year is just perfect. I think it's perfect for our audience to see, and learn, and hear about your experiences, uh, going through grad school so just… to start us off, just to tell us a little bit more about yourself.00:01:34 GeraldOK, well I, I grew up, uh I was born and raised in Charleston, SC from a family that's very tight-knit and involved. And my parents, my father coached me in sports throughout my life and my mother worked at a playground and eventually became playground director. So, I kind of grew up going to a playground every day after school and playing whatever sport was in season and uh, had sort of a, a playful young life, yeah. And then I, uh? Uh, I consider myself getting a little lost in my early adulthood and then found myself, found my way to a graduate program and Ph.D. program in psychology in clinical psychology, and I met my wife there, who is also a clinical psychologist and, and we moved to Atlanta. Opened a clinical practice here and it's gradually grown as you've described to a pretty big practice. And I have 3 adult male children. One, of whom, was from my first marriage, which ended when I was beginning Graduate School. And he's now 41 and has, I have a granddaughter with him and another one on the way. And then I have two other younger sons that are 25 and 22 and all three of them are here in Atlanta. And as I mentioned to you before we got on, we'll be going to an Atlanta Braves baseball game. Right after this, so, uh. It's a good life.00:03:23 BradleyYes, it sounds like it and, and I should add that you are an avid baseball fan and, and even in your book you, you refer to baseball and softball, in particular, and we'll talk more about the book, but usually we like going through and, and kind of going through your academic journey. So, let's go ahead and start off talking about your undergraduate experiences. Where did you attend and at what point did you know that you wanted to get your psychology degree or start your career in psychology?00:03:52 GeraldYeah, so I have a, my story is a little different, I think, than most. Or maybe they're all different. But I, uh, I started off at the College of Charleston. I describe myself as an undergraduate nomad. I went to three schools, eventually got a degree in political science, and started a graduate program in International Studies at the University of South Carolina. And, uh, I liked the intellectual part of studying. I was studying Middle East policy politics and I was fascinated by it. But when it came time to talking about what kind of jobs somebody with a master’s in International Studies worked, I realized it was either in the diplomatic core or in intelligence, and I wasn't really interested in either of those jobs. And I had always wanted to be a psychologist. That was my first sort of job I identified when I figured out, or when I learned what a psychologist did, I thought that's what I want to do, but I didn't think of myself as being able to make the kind of grades it took to get into Graduate School and, and, and that sort of thing, so I, I sort of never really pursued it. But then when I found myself at that point, I when I was in Graduate School in International Studies, I had more intellectual confidence or more confidence in myself. And so I went back and got my undergraduate degree in psychology. I took a year and took a bunch of psychology courses and, uh, worked at a research lab for another year, and then I applied to Graduate School and that's how I ended up, uh, in a psychology program at South Carolina.00:05:34 BradleyOK, well that's a good overview. Now, one thing that you brought up was you knew that you wanted to become a psychologist. In your book, you actually referred to and I'm not sure if this was based on the reality or just you know fiction, but I believe it does apply to you where, at one point one of the directors of the program of your first few classes, I think you had to go through four and at the beginning there, he was mentioning that some of you are going to go on and, and get your Ph.D. and then continue on and become a psychologist. Others are going to go into research, so how did you know or how did you decide knowing yourself that you wanted to become a practicing psychologist instead of a research psychologist?00:06:23 GeraldYeah, it was actually a fairly difficult choice for me, but I did like the research part of psychology. I was really interested in some of the questions that academics ask and spend time researching, but really I always wanted to be a practicing psychologist working with people trying to help people. My, you know the, the way I found out what a psychologist did was from Phil Donahue. You're maybe too young to, to remember.00:06:51 BradleyNo, no, I know it.00:06:54 GeraldBut yeah, he was, he was sort of the original Oprah Winfrey. And he brought. He would frequently bring psychologists on to either talk about a particular struggle people have, or to answer questions from the audience and, and that's when I, I mean, you know.

14: Jenny Long, Psy.D., L.P. – Local Psychologist Offers Advice to Those Interested in a Psychology Career & Owning Their Own Business Sep 03, 2021

Dr. Jenny Long is one of the few psychologists in the Springfield, MO area. In this podcast interview, she reveals why she chose to stay in the area during her academic career and why she chose to earn a Psy.D. instead of a Ph.D.. Throughout the interview she also provides copious advice to those who are interested in a graduate degree in psychology and possibly opening their own business. In addition, Dr. Long explains the advantages and disadvantages of owning a mental health practice in a small town. Dr. Long shares why she chose a career in psychology and what she looked for in her graduate programs and schools. She reminds students that you don’t need to have your whole life mapped out in terms of your academic career but there are things you can do to cover all bases. For example, if you are not sure if you want to work in the academic field or work for the government or own your own private practice, try to find a school that offers both a terminal master’s and a doctorate and that is APA accredited as this will allow you the option to leave after receiving your master’s and work in a variety of settings. With this said, she also suggests that you try to figure out what you want to do with your degree(s) and in what state as different states have different requirements. She also emphasized the importance of getting experience and education outside of the classroom “because what you learn in grad school is very different from the world as a clinician.” Midwest Counseling & Assessment (MCA) offers many clinical and counseling services to assess and treat mental, emotional, and behavioral health issues. They use a variety of techniques, approaches and therapies including Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) and Prolonged Exposure Therapy. Dr. Long briefly explains some of the approaches and admits that many people can benefit from using EMDR to help overcome their trauma, anxiety, depression, OCD, and other issues. Dr. Long discusses the challenges associated with running a business and practicing as a psychologist. She and her staff at MCA firmly believe that “your emotional health is as important as your physical health.” For those dealing with weight loss issues, Dr. Long shares her own journey to weight loss on her website to offer hope, educate, and destigmatize WLS (a.k.a., bariatric surgery or metabolic surgery) and address several misconceptions associated with it. Near the end of the interview, she reminds us of the importance of priorities and values in your life by asking yourself if your time reflects your values. In other words, examine how much time you spend on an activity and ask yourself if this reflects my priorities and values. If it doesn’t, make a change. Connect with Dr. Jenny Long: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter https://vimeo.com/596943776 Interests and Specializations Dr. Jenny Long is a licensed psychologist specializing in treating chronic pain and illness, OCD, trauma and PTSD, depression, bipolar disorder, weight loss surgery (pre- and post-op issues), and evaluations for surgical clearance and adoption. She uses multiple therapy types and approaches including Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR), Prolonged Exposure Therapy, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), and Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy (REBT). Education B.A., Psychology (2001); Missouri State University, Springfield, MO.M.S., Counseling Psychology (2005); Evangel University, Springfield, MO.Psy.D., Clinical Psychology (2010); School of Professional Psychology at Forest Institute. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Jenny Long at Psychology Today Podcast Transcription 00:00:14 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host Brad Schumacher. And today we welcome Dr. Jenny Long to the show. Dr. Long is a licensed psychologist and owner of Midwest Counseling and Assessment located in West Plains, MO. She has been in the field for over 16 years and her practice uses multiple approaches to therapy, including CBT, EMDR, and prolonged exposure therapy, exposure therapy, along with a variety of assessments and evaluations. Today we will learn more about her academic journey, why she chose to receive a Psy.D. instead of a Ph.D. and hear her advice for those who are interested in the field of psychology. Dr Long, welcome to our podcast.00:01:08 JennyThank you, it's so good to be here from Big City of West Plains, South Central Missouri.00:01:14 BradleyIt is and you know what's nice about this interview is we're in the same time zone. A lot of times I talk to people that I have to account for one, two, or three different, you know time zones, so it's kind of nice to talk in the same time zone. Good morning and welcome to the show. I'm glad that you were able to join us.00:01:31 JennyThank you.00:01:33 BradleySo, to start us off, tell us just a little bit more about yourself, a little bit more than just my intro.00:01:39 JennyOK, so I well I think I mentioned this earlier when we were just talking before the show. I, I am a reformed perfectionist, um, I, you know, don't, I no longer have the same need all the time to have things perfect because there's no such, as my mentor when I was doing my dissertation said, Jenny, there's no such thing as a perfect dissertation, just a done one so you get over it, you know, and get it done so. So, um, I'm an introvert but I like people. I just don't need people all the time. You know so and I have four children that I've had since before my daughter, but I have an 8-year-old girl and I'm married to a band director which is always interesting through the year. So yes. Um, and I've been, you know, I've been in practice for a while and, and had Midwest Counseling for the last four years, but I've just enjoyed a lot of different experiences that kind of, I know, have gotten me to this point in my life, and in doing what I do now.00:02:42 BradleyWell good, well thank you. As you have seen on other podcasts, our goal is to kind of go through your academic journey, why you chose certain schools, why you selected certain degrees. And then in your case, we'd like to talk a little bit more about why you went the Psy.D. route versus the Ph.D. route. But first of all, let's kind of start with your undergraduate experiences. Where did you attend and at what point did you know that you wanted to get into psychology or start a career in psychology?00:03:13 JennyWell, I went to Missouri State University which, at the time, was actually Southwest Missouri State before they changed the name. And I actually was a political science with public administration entrance are in focus in that area, criminal justice minor, and then I added psychology just because I liked the classes. I mean, it was just, it was fascinating, and we like learning about ourselves. And you know, every intro to psychology student is diagnosing themselves and their family. And you know, but it was just, it was fascinating to me. But interestingly enough, I did not change to be a psychology major until kind of a fluke towards the end. I, I knew, I guess it was probably towards after my junior year and I was like I had all these classes. But political science it was just I, I didn't know what I was going to do with that necessarily kind of things had changed, and I didn't. I wasn't going to go to law school and, um, so I, I looked, and I had enough credits for psychology to just basically add a few and switch to make it my major and Poli Sci as my, as my, you know, minor with criminal justice. And be able to graduate with just the exact number of credits needed and not having to take a bunch of extra classes. So, I did not have the intention to go to grad school because she, you know, some of my professors would talk about grad school, and I'm like, oh my gosh, why would I want to stay longer? But I like school. I mean, I'm a nerd. And so like that I, I enjoy school, so I didn't go right into my master's program from there.00:04:50 BradleyOK, well that's a good lead into my next question before I ask that though. So, when did you finally graduate then? What year?00:04:58 JennySo, I, I graduated in 2001. And I actually worked my first like, you know, real job out of college was at the Child Advocacy Center in Springfield, so we were part of helping with…basically facilitating investigations and support for families and law enforcement agencies and things for when children may have been abused or experienced, you know, so in that setting of Child Advocacy Center, and so I did that for a little less than a year. But then in that time I realized, you know, I really want to go back to school because I don't want to be held back from doing things that I, I want to do. And you really need, I just needed the degree and so because I was thinking at that time that I probably would enjoy doing more. Like therapy work and so that was just necessary for a master's degree, but I wasn't, I wasn't gonna go for a doctorate either, you know, I was just getting a master’s degree.00:06:03 BradleyOne step at a time, it seems, sounds like you were just going well, I got through this. Let's do a little clip you know, let's work here and then about a year later, you're thinking.00:06:10 JennyRight, right?00:06:14 BradleyYou know, I, I have this urge to go back. So now that you have this urge to go back, how did you decide where to go for your master's degree and what school did you end up going?00:06:24 JennyWell, so interestingly enough I, in the, I actually first went to Fort Worth,

13: Daniel B. Peters, Ph.D., L.P. – A Well-Known Gifted and Twice-Exceptional Expert in California Aug 29, 2021

Dr. Daniel Peters was born and raised in Southern California where he grew up with a large extended family. In this podcast interview, we learn how his family values and ideas of becoming a man influenced not only his own family later in life but also his academic journey leading to a career in psychology. Dr. Peters shares how his education and experiences in the psychology field ignited his passion for helping gifted and twice-exceptional (2e) children and adolescents. We explore his undergraduate and graduate experiences in psychology as well as his practical experiences to better understand how he decided on his specialized psychology career. Dr. Peters’ dad was an optometrist who owned his own business, and he admits that this influenced his decision to co-found the Summit Center, Camp Summit, and Parent Footprint. Dr. Peters discusses his businesses and projects in more detail and offers impactful advice to those interested in the field of psychology, especially those interested in opening their own business or practice. His never-ending desire to help the gifted and 2e led him to meet with, and learn from, other well-known gifted experts in the field. He recently worked with Dr. Jean Sunde Peterson to co-author a new book titled Bright, Complex Kids: Supporting Their Social and Emotional Development which will be released in October 2021. Dr. Peters received a number of recognitions for his work as a psychologist. He received the “2018 SENG Mental Health Professional of the Year” by Supporting Emotional Needs of Gifted, and the “2013 CAG Distinguished Service Award” from the California Association for the Gifted. He has also received awards for his books including the “2016 Allen Ewig Champion for Children” by Aldea Children and Family Services, the “2013 Legacy Book Award” for his book Raising Creative Kids, and the “2014 Independent Publisher Book Award – Gold Medal, Psychology/Mental” for Make Your Worrier a Warrior. In addition to Parent Footprint, an interactive parenting education community and website that offers Parent Footprint Awareness training, Dr. Peters also has a podcast called “Parent Footprint with Dr. Dan”, serves on the Editorial Board for the 2e Newsletter, and serves on the Advisory Board for the 2e Center for Research and Professional Development at Bridges Academy. Connect with Dr. Daniel Peters: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter https://vimeo.com/593908684 Interests and Specializations Dr. Peters is a licensed psychologist specializing in overcoming anxiety, learning differences such as dyslexia, and issues related to giftedness and twice-exceptionality. Author of Make Your Worrier a Warrior: A Guide to Conquering Your Child’s Fears (for parents), its companion children’s book From Worrier to Warrior: A Guide to Conquering Your Fears, and the Warrior Workbook: A Guide for Conquering Your Worry Monster (for kids). Education Bachelor of Arts (B.A.), Psychology (1992); University of California Davis, Davis, CA.Master of Arts (M.A.), Clinical Psychology (1995); Pacific Graduate School of Psychology, Palo Alto, CA.Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.), Clinical Psychology (1998); Pacific Graduate School of Psychology, Palo Alto, CA. Other Sources and Links of Interest Misdiagnosis, Dual Diagnoses, and Missed Diagnoses of Gifted Children and Adults SENG Conference Workshop, July 2012Family Values and Ritual: Are Our Kids Paying Attention? Article by Dan PetersParent Footprint on FacebookParent Footprint on TwitterParent Footprint Podcast on FacebookSummit Center on FacebookSummit Center on TwitterSummit Center on Youtube Podcast Transcription 00:00:14 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Daniel Peters to the show. Dr. Peters, also known as “Dr. Dan”, is a licensed psychologist who, for over 20 years, has been passionate about the assessment and treatment of children, adolescents, and families. He specializes in overcoming anxiety, learning differences such as dyslexia, and issues related to giftedness, and twice exceptionality. He is co-founder and Executive Director of the Summit Center and co-founder of Parent Footprint. He is also co-founder of Camp Summit, a summer camp for gifted youth. He has received a number of awards and recognitions for his work. Today we will learn more about his academic journey and his passion for helping twice-exceptional and gifted people. Dr. Peters, welcome to our podcast.00:01:16 DanThanks, Brad. I'm looking forward to this.00:01:19 BradleyI am looking forward to it as well, and usually, if you've seen some of our podcasts in the past, we love talking about you, where you've been, your academic journey, what you're up to now, your projects and and your business, in this case. Before we get started, just tell us a little bit more about yourself.00:01:39 DanBorn and raised in Southern California. And ventured up, a large extended family in Southern California, on both sides of my family and, you know, we traveled a bunch, but it was like Southern California was sort of center of the universe as, as you hear about for people who lived down there and, and other places too. And then went up to college up to Northern California to UC Davis, and then absolutely fell in love with Northern California where I've been ever since my wife, and I met in college and she's from Northern California and all my great friends ended up being from Northern California. So, this became home after doing different training, uh, training years in different places like Ohio and such. And uhm, what else? Uhm, growing up something was really important to me, ah, sports was very important to me. Competitive tennis became my, my focus and passion for a long-time and um and also, I think but for what ended up forming a bit of my careers, I always liked working with kids, so I worked at summer camps. I taught tennis. I was just involved in kids and groups quite a bit. And you know later looking back I could see the road of working with kids and families as well.00:03:04 BradleyWell, I, it's obvious when I did all the research on you and all of your publications, quite passionate about helping adolescents, youths and even families and adults. And we're going to talk about that a little bit more. But before we do, and before I forget to ask you, were you able to attend any of the talks at The Executive Function Online Summit over the weekend?00:03:27 DanActually, I didn't. I usually, you know go back and view them and it's Seth Perler puts on an amazing lineup and with amazing colleagues. So yes, not yet, but it's on my ah, I've got the, I've got the link. How about you?00:03:44 BradleyI, I was able to look at a few of them. I wasn't attending in person, live while they were doing it, but as you mentioned you can go back and take a look at some of the talks as well and I just found it fascinating. And the reason that I saw that is you, you posted that on your social media, letting everybody know that hey, if you're interested in these topics, it's free, go ahead and join. I, I really loved your proactiveness sharing that with everybody on online as well. Tell us a little bit more about your undergraduate experiences. For example, where did you attend and at what point did you know you wanted to start a career in psychology?00:04:19 DanOK, so this is kind of a funny story that I share with, with clients at when relevant and in talks, so I, um, I didn't know what I really wanted to do and when I was in high school, I guess I think college counseling's they started to become a thing and I have these older cousins. And my parents said, yeah, we're going to go to a college counselor in LA. They're the ones that your cousins went to, they helped them think about what they wanted to do, where they wanted to go to college, so I, so I did this. Um, and I took all these tests, you know now I know what these tests were that I didn't know if these tests were and I remember going into this, you know, office and this big building in LA and it just seemed so…we lived outside of LA, so we weren't in LA…and it seemed all kind of, I don't know, seemed a little overwhelming to me. Take all these tests. Come back. And I remember him sitting there and he says OK, I've got your plan. And this wasn't where I was going to go to college. This is like my plan and um, and so it said you're going to be a business major. You're going to be a Spanish minor. You're going to spend your third year in a Spanish speaking country abroad to become fluent. And then you're going to go to law school and you're going to be a bilingual attorney, and this was at the time when there was a lot of push, um, because of Spanish speaking, that the population was just booming with Spanish speaking individuals and it was like hey, this is really important.So, I remember leaving the office thinking huh? Uh, you know, I'm like semi consciously I, I remember thinking like not one thing resonated with me not even one thing. And that, and that I, I remember thinking like, oh, I guess well I guess it's kind of like what men do. I think I guess like men are you know they're in business and then they become attorneys and my dad was an optometrist who's had his own business still forever. So, I, like that was my model of a guy working. So, I left, independently. I ended up at UC Davis. I visited a couple older friends there. One was on the tennis team. I was wanting to play tennis. I fell in love with just this juxtaposition of Southern California to farmland in Northern California. Just fell in love with it. Ended up there.

12: Adriana Popescu, Ph.D., L.C.P. – Creating a Successful Business Going Outside the Bounds of Traditional Psychology Aug 21, 2021

Dr. Adriana Popescu is a licensed clinical psychologist, an addiction and trauma specialist, and empowerment coach with over 25 years of experience in the mental health field. In this podcast interview, she reveals her personal and academic journey which helped her identify, and overcome, her own experiences with severe illness, hopelessness, and depression. Dr. Popescu discusses her path to recovery and how her passion to learn more about alternative therapies and spirituality opened her mind, and world, to a holistic approach to physical and mental health. She applies these techniques and approaches to her clients and has directed a number of treatment programs in the San Francisco Bay area. She is also the Clinical Director at Avery Lane, an innovative and holistic treatment program for women with co-occuring addiction and mental health disorders. Dr. Popescu has always known that she wanted to help people and go into the healing arts as her dad was a doctor. She originally planned on going into psychiatry because she wanted to help people with their problems, so she attended Dartmouth College and started premed. However, she eventually realized that psychiatry isn’t necessarily doing therapy with people anymore, rather, it is more focused on prescribing medications. Therefore, she changed her focus to psychology. After receiving her B.A. in Psychology, she wanted to take a year off of school before going on for her Ph.D., so she went to Vail, CO where she experienced a series of events that changed her life and academic path. She became very ill, and the doctors didn’t know what was wrong with her. She intuitively knew that she needed to find out what was happening with her body, so she began her journey towards health and wellness by going to massage therapy school in Boulder, CO. She then continued her journey by learning more about meditation, muscle testing, chiropractic, and nutritional supplements. Her passion grew even more when attending graduate school at the Institute of Transpersonal Psychology in Palo Alto, CA where she learned about Eastern philosophy, somatic psychology, shamanic traditions, and had classes in Yoga and Aikido. She was so driven that she became a certified hypnotherapist, Brainspotting Practitioner, Access Consciousness Facilitator, and Neuro Emotional Technique (NET) Practitioner. In 1999, her world opened up even further when she learned about Energy Psychology. Later she learned more about Talk to the Entities (TTTE), a specialty area of Access Consciousness. Dr. Popescu shares some impactful advice for those interested in applying their graduate degree in psychology outside of the academic world. She states “Well, they don’t teach you in grad school how to run a business, unfortunately, and they should.” She also explains how being willing to go outside the bounds of the traditional model may increase your financial prospects. During the podcast interview, Dr. Popescu shares her belief that “Self-judgment, or judgment in general, is the greatest source of human suffering.” Dr. Popescu enjoys travelling around the world facilitating and attending various workshops on Energy Psychology and Access Consciousness. She has contributed to a number of books, including TJ Woodward’s Conscious Being Workbook, The Conscious Recovery MethodTM Workbook, and the Conscious Creation Workbook. Her own book, What if You’re Not as F**ked Up As You Think You Are? is currently in press, due for release in late 2021. Connect with Dr. Popescu: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Youtube | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter https://vimeo.com/590117224 Interests and Specializations Dr. Popescu is a licensed clinical psychologist, an addiction and trauma specialist, and empowerment coach. She is trained and certified in a variety of approaches and modalities. She is a certified hypnotherapist, brainspotting practitioner, Access Consciousness Facilitator, and Neuro Emotional Technique (NET) Practitioner. Talk to the Entities (TTTE) is a specialty area of Access Consciousness and she offers this as well as the use of Energy Psychology in her practice. Education Bachelor of Arts (B.A.), Psychology (1993); Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH.Master of Arts (M.A.), Counseling Psychology (2001); Institute of Transpersonal Psychology, Palo Alto, CA.Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.), Transpersonal Psychology (with Clinical Certification) (2006); Institute of Transpersonal Psychology, Palo Alto, CA. Other Sources and Links of Interest More about Dr. Adriana PopescuDr. Adriana Popescu at Psychology Today Podcast Transcription 00:00:14 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host Brad Schumacher and today we welcome Dr. Adriana Popescu to the show.Dr. Popescu is a licensed clinical psychologist, addiction specialist, and empowerment coach with over 25 years of experience in the mental health field. She is also a certified hypnotherapist, brainspotting practitioner, access consciousness facilitator, and neuro emotional technique (NET) practitioner. Today we will learn more about her academic journey and experiences leading to her opening a thriving and successful business in California, which is “creating a life of infinite possibilities” for her clients. Dr. Popescu, welcome to our show.00:01:11 AdrianaHi Brad, thanks for having me…happy to be here with you all today.00:01:16 BradleyThank you, thank you and I appreciate your patience with me pronouncing your name correctly. It's a, it's a mouthful.00:01:23 AdrianaThat’s OK, my whole life I've been dealing with it, no worries.00:01:27 BradleyWell, I wanted to kind of give you a heads up. We usually go through kind of your career academic journey first and then we start talking about your passions, and you have a lot of passions based on our discussions and my research, so to start us off, go ahead and just tell us a little bit more about yourself.00:01:47 AdrianaSure, so I am a licensed clinical psychologist, an addiction and trauma specialist, and an empowerment coach based out of San Francisco, CA but also working with people worldwide. Uhm, my journey, actually, I was one of the lucky ones who really knew early on that I wanted to do this work. Uhm, my dad was a doctor, so I was already kind of oriented toward healing arts. And I figured I'd be a doctor just like him. And when he passed away when I was a teenager, I realized like I wanted to actually go into psychiatry. That was my original plan, psychiatry, because I wanted to help people with their problems because when I was a kid going through those things and there had been a really messy, ugly divorce prior to that and some other things, there was no one there for me. There was no one there to talk to. None of my friends had gone through what I've been through, and so I wanted to be, and then naturally people would gravitate towards me, you know, when I was growing up and, and sought my comfort and advice and whatever. So, I was like oh, I can get paid to do this. Cool, I'm going to do that, so I ended up going, so I grew up on the East Coast New York, I ended up going to Dartmouth for my undergrad and started premed and you know it's a, I was pretty deep into it, about 2 1/2 years and it was organic. It was the combination of organic chemistry which is the worst class ever and I'm actually starting to have internships in the field where I've realized that oh, psychiatry isn't doing therapy with people anymore. It's actually mostly just prescribing meds these days. I don't want to do that, and if Med school is like organic chemistry, I don't want to do that either.So, I changed course and realized OK, I could do a PhD in psychology and that was my plan. And then after college I was going to take a year off. I needed a break. Some friends of mine’s parents got a house in Vail, CO. They say we're going to go there for the winter, you can stay for free in a house in Vail on the mountain. I'm like, of course I'll be there, but that choice was a very fateful choice because it really changed the course of my life. Umm, I ended up actually staying in Colorado five years and became really, really ill in that time. And they didn't, the doctors didn't know what was wrong with me. Uhm, and so I got really depressed. I got really sick and uhm, decided to go to massage therapy school in Boulder, CO because I just had this intuitive knowing that I needed to find out what else was going on with my body and to understand better understand bodies I was kind of like always in my head. I didn't even realize like I had a body neck down and that's what really opened me up to the holistic and alternative kinds of approaches. It turns out I found out 13 years into this thing I found out that what I actually had was Lyme disease with chronic fatigue syndrome, and so really my it was my journey towards health and Wellness that put me on this track, uhm, of the alternative therapies and, and spirituality because it was definitely a dark night of the soul for me to go through all that and very much like a crisis. I would call it a spiritual crisis and. And where life had become sort of empty and meaningless and I was trying to find my purpose. So going through all that myself is what exposed me to all the different therapies that I've used today in my practice.00:05:24 BradleyWell, there you have it. That was a nice summary and overview of what we're going to talk about today. I thank, I thank you for that. Well, it sounds like, even though it was unfortunate that you had to go through those ahh, that time period, it actually pushed you in the right direction where it helped you realize, hey,

11: Erlanger “Earl” A. Turner, Ph.D., L.C.P. – Putting his Passion into Practice as an Assistant Professor, Psychologist, Blogger, Podcaster, and Mental Health Advocate Jun 25, 2021

Dr. Turner, a first-generation college student, is a Louisiana native (born and raised in Baton Rouge) who discovered his interest in psychology later in his undergraduate career while attending Louisiana State University (LSU). He originally had plans to become a pediatrician and go to medical school but after taking a child psychology course, he knew this was the right fit for him as he wanted to help children and families. In this podcast, Dr. Turner shares how this drive and passion helped guide him during his academic career as he earned his M.S. and Ph.D. in clinical psychology at Texas A&M University. He completed his postdoctoral fellowship in Baltimore, MD through the Kennedy Krieger Institute which is a children’s hospital affiliated with Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. Dr. Turner is an Assistant Professor of Psychology at Pepperdine University where he teaches courses on multicultural psychology, research methodology, and child psychopathology. He is also a licensed clinical psychologist. In the clinical setting, he is known as “Dr. Earl” and he incorporated this into the title of his mental health podcast “The Breakdown with Dr. Earl” which focuses on issues related to Black men and boys. He also addresses the stigma in the Black community by changing the way people view seeking therapy or mental health. Dr. Earl increases awareness of, and treatment for, different types of mental health issues and highlights Black professionals and therapists on the show. Dr. “Earl” Turner is a mental health advocate and writes a blog “The Race to Good Health” and is Founder and Executive Director of Therapy for Black Kids (T4BK). He explains that the idea for T4BK came to him during the pandemic, but the content and website wasn’t released until earlier this year in February. He recognized that as a result of the “subtle racial reckoning this last summer” most of the conversations were focused on adults and not so much on kids, specifically Black kids. Therefore, he created Therapy for Black Kids to provide information and resources to “help parents deal with the challenges of racial injustice and foster resilience to promote healthy development.” During the podcast interview, Dr. Turner’s drive and passion shines through and he admits that his favorite approach is using cognitive theories in his research as it shapes our life and our interactions. When I asked him what the most important thing he has learned in life, he responded “continue fighting for whatever is important to you.” Connect with Dr. Turner: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Youtube | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter https://vimeo.com/567216486 Interests and Specializations Over the last 10-15 years, Dr. Turner has served in leadership positions within the American Psychological Association (APA), published research, served on editorial boards, and provided therapy services for children, adolescents, and adults with behavioral and emotional problems such as depression, anxiety, and stress management. He also specializes in the diagnosis and treatment of disruptive behavior disorders such as Conduct Disorder, Oppositional Defiant Disorder, Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD), and developmental disorders (e.g., Autism Spectrum Disorder). Education Bachelor of Science (B.S.), Psychology; Louisiana State University.Master of Science (M.S.), Clinical Psychology; Texas A&M University.Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.), Clinical Psychology; Texas A&M University. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Turner at Psychology TodayDr. Turner at US NewsDr. Turner at HuffPostDr. Turner Book on AmazonDr. Turner at Google ScholarDr. Turner National Register Award for Excellence Podcast Transcription 00:00:05 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in Psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we are privileged to welcome Dr. Earl Turner. Dr. Earl is an award-winning psychologist and assistant professor of psychology at Pepperdine University. He received his B.S. in psychology from Louisiana State University and his M.S. and Ph.D. in clinical psychology from Texas A&M University. Dr. Turner writes a blog “The Race to Good Health” and is host of a mental health podcast called “The Breakdown with Dr. Earl.” Dr. Turner is also the founder and executive director of Therapy for Black Kids (T4BK) which was created during the pandemic. Dr. Turner, welcome to our podcast.00:01:06 EarlThank you for having me.00:01:08 BradleyI appreciate you getting on the show, and I apologize I, I went back and forth between your names. I wasn't sure if, if I should call you doctor Earl or Doctor Turner, I'll go ahead and call you Dr. Turner unless you tell me otherwise…so I appreciate you taking the time.00:01:20 EarlNo worries.00:01:22 BradleyJust to start off, tell us a little bit about yourself so we get into knowing a little bit more about you before we start talking about some of your academic journey.00:01:32 EarlAbsolutely. So, you read my bio so that gives you a little bit of information about who I am. I am currently teaching primarily here in Los Angeles. However, I am still licensed as a psychologist and so I've maintained that uhm license for about 8 years now since I got my license after finishing my postdoc however many years ago. But I really do enjoy teaching and so as we probably will get into the discussion, I started my journey out after postdoc doing clinical work uhm full time, and then made that transition because I wanted to, to get back into being able to do research and working in a clinical setting where you're seeing patients and clients all day makes it very difficult to do so, and so I've sort of shifted my work over that time to, to do more teaching and also provide me with more opportunities to be able to provide some mentorship to students as well. And so that's why I have enjoyed that transition to be able to, to be more involved in that aspect of it. And then, as you sort of mentioned, I do a lot of work with the media and for me part of that is really centered around, centered around um focusing on mental health awareness and really sort of letting individuals know that therapy is useful for everyone and that you don't have to necessarily have a diagnosis, and particularly trying to break down some of the barriers around mental health youth within communities of color.00:03:13 BradleyWell, thank you for that summary you, you saved me some time later on, but what we usually do on the on the podcast is really understand, you know, which schools you went to, how you decided to go into those schools and specific programs. So, we usually go in chronological order, tell us a little bit more about your undergraduate experiences at Louisiana State…for example, how and why did you choose LSU for your BS?00:03:37 EarlYeah, so I am a Louisiana native. Born and raised in Baton Rouge, LA, which is where LSU is located and so I made that decision to go to that school primarily 'cause I wanted to stay close to home. And so, they have a really strong psychology program there for both the undergrad as well as the doctoral program. And so, it felt like the best fit for me, at that time, to get my, my training, as well as being able to, to get some additional experience from experts within the field. I will say that as many people sort of do, I made a shift from focusing in on psychology later in my undergraduate career. And so, I actually started off majoring in microbiology with plans to be a pediatrician and go to medical school, and I took, um, I took a child psychology course, I think, my second year of undergrad and it just felt like that was, that fit better with who I was and sort of what I wanted to do in terms of helping children and families.And so, I changed my major to psychology and then began to, to do more work with some other professors there at LSU where I had some opportunities to, to learn more about clinical research and, and, and had a chance to work with one professor there who was working at a, um, hospital and they had a outpatient clinic focused on ADHD. And so, I had an opportunity to assist with some research in that area, as well as just sort of supervise what some behavioral consultation looked like with, within a integrated sort of behavioral health setting, and so, that sort of again validated my interest in, in being able to do that work in and, and my desire to, to specialize in child psychology as I continue throughout my career.00:05:36 BradleyWell, thank you for that summary 'cause my next question would have been when did you know you were going to focus on psychology, and you already answered that. And after you attended LSU you actually went to Texas A&M for your master's and your Ph.D., and you decided to focus more on clinical psychology. So why Texas A&M and tell us a little bit about your thought process there.00:06:00 EarlYeah, so I, I applied to several schools I, I think for me it, I didn't have like a long list of, of 10-15 schools, I think I had about 5 to 7 schools that I applied to at the time. And, for me, as I sort of made some decisions about that I'm really trying to find a place where there was faculty that, you know, had some experience in the areas that I wanted to focus on, and particularly thinking about child psychology. So, the programs that I considered looked at those particular areas and I ended up deciding on Texas A&M because of a faculty person there that was doing, um, some work and had specialization in clinical child psychology. And I also got a diversity fellowship to attend the university as well, so obviously like that swayed my decision a little bit.

10: Sebastien Hélie, Ph.D. – Award-Winning Associate Professor and Investigator Reveals his Academic Journey Coming to America Jun 19, 2021

Dr. Sebastien Hélie is a French Canadian originally from Quebec. He grew up in a suburb of Montreal where he eventually received his Bachelor of Science in Psychology and Master of Science in Cognitive Psychology from the Universite de Montreal. During this time, he learned about computational psychology or mathematical psychology which sparked his interest to pursue this further. He found a professor at the Universite du Quebec A Montreal (UQAM) who was working in this field and explains this was the main reason for attending UQAM for his doctorate. After receiving his Ph.D. in Cognitive Computer Science, he continued his academic journey by moving to the United States where he moved from coast to coast before landing his perfect job at Purdue University in West Lafayette, IN. In this podcast interview, Dr. Hélie recounts his academic journey in more detail and explains how and why he attended different university programs. He explains how the academic system in Canada is different from the one in the US and offers advice to those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. Dr. Hélie is an Associate Professor in the Dept. of Psychological Sciences and the Dept. of Speech, Language, and Hearing Sciences. He is the Principal Investigator in the Laboratory for Computational Cognitive Neuroscience and the Director of the Center for Research on Brain, Behavior, and NeuroRehabilitation (CEREBBRAL). Dr. Hélie received the International Neural Network Society (INNS) Young Investigator Award and, more recently, the Trailblazer Award. He serves on the Leadership Team of the Purdue Institute for Integrative Neuroscience and explains his passion for his current and past research. He discusses how an fMRI and EEG are used in his lines of research and explains the origin of CERBBRAL. Throughout the interview, Dr. Hélie provides impactful advice to both students and professors alike regarding the admission process, getting involved in research and labs, as well as research and grant writing. He fondly recalls his work with advisors and other professors throughout his career and shares some of the important things he has learned along the way. Connect with Dr. Sebastien Hélie: Purdue Faculty PageConnect with the Show: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter https://vimeo.com/564518159 Interests and Specializations Dr. Hélie is interested in cognitive neuroscience, computational cognitive neuroscience, rule learning, skill acquisition, creative problem solving, decision-making and the evaluation process. Having received his Ph.D. in Cognitive Computer Science, he applies this training to his research and interests to better understand and measure cognitive learning concepts. Dr. Hélie admits that his favorite part of his job is mentoring his students as they keep him on his toes and continually challenge ideas discussed in the lab. Education Bachelor of Science (B.Sc.), Psychology (2001); Universite de Montreal.Master of Science (M.Sc.), Cognitive Psychology (2003); University de Montreal.Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.), Cognitive Computer Science (2007); Universite du Quebec A Montreal. Other Sources and Links of Interest Communicating Neurons Video - by Sebastien HélieSebastien Hélie on Google Scholar Podcast Transcription 00:00:10 BradleyWelcome to the Master's in Psychology Podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host Brad Schumacher and today we welcome Dr. Sebastian Hélie to the show. Dr. Hélie is an Associate Professor in the Department of Psychological Sciences and the Department of Speech, Language, and Hearing Sciences at Purdue University. He received his doctoral degree in Cognitive Computer Science from the University of Quebec in Montreal. Dr. Hélie was awarded the 2019 Trailblazer Award and received the International Neural Network Society Young Investigator Award. Dr. Hélie is the Co-director of the Center for Research on Brain Behavior and Neurorehabilitation, otherwise known as CEREBBRAL, and he's also the Principal Investigator for the Laboratory for Computational Cognitive Neuroscience. Dr. Hélie, welcome to our podcast.00:01:16 SebastienThank you for having me Brad. I'm excited to be here.00:01:19 BradleyI'm excited to have you as well I, I looked at all of your history and your academic journey and all of your new research and I'm actually excited to start talking about that. But before we do, let us just kind of start off a little bit by asking you…tell us a little bit more about yourself for our listeners.00:01:39 SebastienOK, so uhm, I'm French Canadian originally from the province of Quebec. I grew up in the suburb of Montreal and I actually spent most of my life up until my late 20s either in the suburb of Montreal or in Montreal where I moved when I was a student. I did all my studies in Montreal. I'm sure we're going to get into details about that and after I obtained my Ph.D. uh, in 2006 I moved to the US, and I've lived in the US since then. I’ve lived in a few different places. I've been on the East Coast in the Albany area. I've been on the West Coast in Santa Barbara and now I'm in the Midwest in West Lafayette.00:02:22 BradleyIt sounds like you've been all over the place, not only in the United States, but in, in Montreal as well. And then parts of Canada, and so we usually go chronologically in order. So, tell us a little bit more about your undergraduate experiences at the University of Montreal.00:02:38 SebastienSo, I actually really liked my undergraduate studies at the University of Montreal. The education system in Quebec, the French one at least, is a little different than what people are used to in the US in that we actually graduate high school a year earlier than people in US but then we go to a thing called CEGEP for two years which where we do General College Courses, uhm, and that prepares us for university and then when you go to university, the bachelor's degree is only three years. So, at the end of the day, it's the same number of years, it's just breaked out differently. But because the bachelor's degree is only three years, it's much more specialized so you don't have many electives. You don't have many of these other random courses that you might take as an undergrad in the US because you've done all of those in in CEGEP. So, it's very concentrated in psychology and a lot of it, a lot of the students who enrolled in psychology in Montreal are interested in clinical psychology. A lot of them are hoping to eventually become therapists, so a lot of these courses are clinical psychology courses. Uhm, I'm no exception. I actually signed up thinking I was going to eventually be a therapist, but I quickly found out that I'm not very good at this. Like it's not a good area for me and then I just randomly landed in a cognitive psychology lab as a research assistant and fell in love with the field and so and then worked in cognitive psychology labs for the rest of my undergraduate years.00:04:18 BradleyWell, it sounds like you kind of found out, hey, I was interested in this and then no, that really isn't for me, but you ended up in an area that was really exciting for you.00:04:29 SebastienYes, I got lucky um, and um, and I'll have to say I didn't really even choose to be in a cognitive psychology lab. As an undergrad, I was working part time and, and so I had restrictions on, on the courses that I could take that fit my schedule and I really landed the cognitive psychology lab because that was the one course that fit my schedule. So, I guess there are happy accidents.00:04:55 BradleyRight, right? Well, you're not the first of my guests. Some of them talk about happenstance or it just happened to turn out that way. You, you mentioned that you could focus a little bit more on your undergraduate. You said psychology and then first you were interested in in becoming a, you know, going into the field and becoming a psychologist or practicing psychologist and then going into cognitive, how did you choose to attend the University of Montreal? I'm sure there are other universities out there that you could have attended. How did you choose Montreal?00:05:30 SebastienSo, there is. It's interesting. Yeah, so I actually didn't consider that many different universities. Part of it is that, at that time, I spoke very little English, so I was restricting myself to French universities and there that already reduces your SAT to a much smaller number and University of Montreal. At that time, their psychology program had the better reputation among the other French universities, and it was convenient 'cause I didn't really have to move so.00:06:03 BradleyAnd then you actually stayed at the University of Montreal for your master's degree, and maybe…was that out of convenience? Or it was just already there, you were set up, you felt comfortable? You could have gone someplace else. So why did you stay there?00:06:15 SebastienSo, what happens is, uhm, like I mentioned in my earlier response, I spent a lot of time working in cognitive psychology labs while I was there, and I realized this was really what I liked and was my passion. And the last year that I was there, there's a new faculty that was hired and that was doing cognitive psychology. His name was Dr. Denis Cousineau, and um, I've, I've started talking with him and I thought his research was really interesting and we were getting along well. I guess it's, it kind of helps also, since it was, he was a new faculty, was just hired so he was on the younger side, so we were closer in age, so things just clicked, and I wanted to work with him and learn from him. So, I, I actually didn't apply to any other university. I only applied to work with him.00:07:06 BradleyAnd on the master’s, I,

9: Jessica M. Smedley, Psy.D., L.C.P. – Blending Faith and Psychology to her Holistic and Social-Justice Oriented Approach to Mental Health Services May 21, 2021

Dr. “Jess”, as her clients know her, is a Licensed Clinical Psychologist, speaker, writer, and community leader. In this podcast interview, she shares how and why she entered the field of psychology and how her choices of graduate schools and degrees helped shape her approach to life and her approach to her clients in her private practice. She discusses her experiences in undergraduate and graduate schools which shed light on how her academic career evolved from majoring in Biology to showing an interest in Neuroscience and studying the brain to changing her major to Psychology. Dr. Smedley attended the University of San Francisco where she received her M.A. in Counseling Psychology with an emphasis on Marriage and Family Therapy. She received multiple degrees from Fuller Theological Seminary and shares why she received her Psy.D. instead of a Ph.D. Dr. Smedley provides additional information regarding the jobs she’s held while working on her graduate degrees and reveals the important experiences that helped shaped so much of her career. She also recalls her experiences with the Ohio Psychological Association as well as her leadership roles within the APA and admits that these experiences, along with her seminary training as a clinical psychologist, have influenced her approach to mental health services. Dr. Smedley incorporates faith into her practice as she believes it impacts our value systems, relationship styles, and decision-making. Her private practice “Smedley Psychological Services, LLC” provides therapeutic, educational, and consultative services to the community and other providers. Dr. “Jess” reminisces about when she knew she was going to start her practice and shares some of the crucial questions to consider when opening your own private practice. Dr. Smedley shares advice for those interested in psychology and offers additional thoughts for those Black students interested in entering the field. She helped to co-launch an initiative with other licensed healers of the Association of Black Psychologists (ABPsi) and is currently finishing her 3-year term on the APA Membership Board serving in the Diversity Slate. Dr. “Jess” is also a speaker and writer. She has held many talks and trainings on mental health education and wellness, racial trauma, and offers general self-care advice. She recently published “Dear Black Girl: Essential Guided Reflections to Celebrate You!” which is a workbook specifically designed as a guide to journaling for Black Girls throughout their various stages of life and development. Connect with Dr. Jessica M. Smedley: Twitter | LinkedinConnect with the Show: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter https://vimeo.com/553102898 Interests and Specializations Dr. Smedley has a passion for diversity and advocacy and prioritizes the mental health for people of color. Much of her clinical training was in community mental health settings (e.g., outpatient, residential, community-based) as well as private practice settings. Dr. Smedley treats adults and children who have experienced trauma, co-morbid diagnoses, chronic and severe mental illness, and various family and environmental issues and disparities. Education Bachelor of Arts (B.A.), Psychology (2004); University of California, Riverside. Master of Arts (M.A.), Counseling Psychology (2007); University of San Francisco. Master of Arts (M.A.), Clinical Psychology (2011); Fuller Theological Seminary. Master of Arts (M.A.), Christian Leadership (2012); Fuller Theological Seminary. Doctor of Psychology (Psy.D.), Clinical Psychology (2015); Fuller Theological Seminary. Other Sources and Links of Interest Dr. Jess on Black StressCoping With COVID-19: Counselors, Educators, Faith Leader Speak Out Podcast Transcription 00:00:14 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Jessica Smedley to the show. Dr. Smedley is a licensed clinical psychologist and has her own practice, Smedley Psychological Services, where she is known as “Dr. Jess”. She received her BA in Psychology from UC Riverside and her MA in Counseling Psychology with an emphasis on Marriage and Family Therapy from the University of San Francisco. She received her doctoral degree in Clinical Psychology at Fuller Theological Seminary in Pasadena, CA, where she also completed two additional master's degrees, one in Christian Leadership and another in Clinical Psychology. Dr. Smedley has served as the Ohio Psychological Association Diversity Committee chair and as a past Diversity Liaison Diversity Subcommittee Chair for the 2020 APA Practice Leadership Conference. Dr. Smedley also was elected to the APA Membership Board to serve in the Diversity slate for a three-year term. Finally, we'll highlight one other aspect, she helped to co-launch an initiative with other licensed healers of the Association of Black Psychologists, which we will discuss later in this interview. Dr. Smedley, welcome to our podcast.00:01:46 JessicaThank you so much. It's a pleasure to be here. I'm excited.00:01:49 BradleyWell, I appreciate you taking the time. I know that a lot of our audience members are going to really enjoy hearing about your academic journey as well as what you did after you left the seminary. But to start off, just kind of give us a high-level view, tell us a little bit more about yourself.00:02:08 JessicaSure, so I am currently in the DC area. I am a California Bay area native. Decided to branch off and continue my education. We'll talk about, you know, those things later. But I was also an athlete, so I ran track in college. That was great. Pledged a great sorority, Delta Sigma Theta incorporated. And enjoy working out. Enjoy cooking. Have a Beagle, you might, hopefully not, might not hear. But, uh, that's a little bit about me.00:02:47 BradleyI also read someplace that you were a dancer.00:02:51 JessicaYes, how could I forget? Yes, I love her ballet, hence, the Judith Jamison background.00:02:57 BradleyI was, I was noticing that in the in the background as well. So yeah, I haven't met a dancer, teacher, psychologist before, so you're my first today. So, usually, we go in and kind of chronological order for our audience and it's nice to talk about your undergraduate experiences first. So, I did look at your Vita and I looked at where you went. At what point did you know that you really wanted to go the psychology route or go for your psychology degree?00:03:26 JessicaSure, so I started off as a Biology major at UCR. Was really interested in the Medical Sciences and thinking premed, premed, um, then Organic Chemistry happened and then Physics happened. Sort of a challenged my direction, but then I also started taking Neuroscience electives and studying the brain and so around, ironically beginning mid of my third year, it was when I switched majors. And just really got delved into the psychology world that way.00:04:06 BradleyOK, and you already mentioned you went to UC Riverside, so after two or three years you, you kind of realized, well you know this brain stuff is kind of interesting and it's a little bit more interesting than this other stuff that I find a little bit more difficult. I don't want to speak for you, but that's what I'm hearing you say.00:04:23 JessicaYes, that is exactly which part.00:04:27 BradleySo that's always fun. And, and I noticed that you stayed in that same area or relatively in that same area when you went on to receive your Master of Arts in Counseling Psychology and I, I mentioned that you emphasized in Marriage and Family Therapy at the University of San Francisco. What made you choose USF?00:04:47 JessicaSure, so I knew that I wanted to get my masters in a Counseling Program. I also knew that I wanted to go back home for a little while, 'cause I'm from the Bay Area. So, it was a combination of location, having more financial support at home, that's a reality of education. Ah, and uh, just being closer to family and having that support. And it was a really great program too.00:05:16 BradleyI believe USF is a private Jesuit University. Is that right? So, I hear you saying, yes, it was nice to get back home close to the family, have that financial support…what came into play in your decision of going to that particular university versus other universities in the same area.00:05:22 JessicaSure, uhm. I honestly think it was the schedule that they offered. I, I can't say it was because of it being a specifically private institution or their value system per say, but it was a really unique opportunity to maintain the job that I already had in the mental health field. And to be able to still take those evening and weekend courses to fulfill the, the commitment. So, it was a matter of flexibility and being able to get my hours. It worked out really well logistically.00:06:08 BradleySure, and what job that was actually one of my next questions is what did you do while you were attending? So what job were you performing and what your role was there?00:06:18 JessicaSure, so I worked for a Seneca Center which is still in the Bay Area, and they offer lots of mental health and supportive services to youth and families, predominantly youth who have difficulties with behavior problems, trauma histories, complex trauma backgrounds. And so, I worked, at the time, at their residential treatment facility, I'm forgetting the acronym because they've since closed due to structural and financial changes, but it was for kids who really had those significant traumatic backgrounds.00:06:58 BradleySure, and I noticed, and we'll talk a little later, that you kept looking into that topic, in that area, even afterwards.

8: Tammi Walker, Ph.D., J.D. – Using her Experience and Education to Challenge Commonly Held Beliefs that Influence Legal Decision-Making May 12, 2021

In this podcast interview, Dr. Tammi Walker shares how, and why, she decided to get her law degree at Columbia Law School before traveling abroad to get her M.Sc. in Social and Cultural Psychology in London. She then returned to the U.S. to receive her Ph.D. in Psychology from the University of Virginia. Throughout our discussion a theme emerged regarding the importance of taking the time to self-reflect and getting out of your comfort zone. Self-reflection is important as it forces you to periodically evaluate where you are, what you want to do, and what is important to you. She states “…how I spend my time is really how what I value and what I care about at the end of the day.” She also points out that if everything around you “feels familiar and comfortable, you’re probably not doing it right.” Dr. Walker is currently an Associate Professor of Law and Psychology at the University of Arizona. She was offered a joint appointment in the Law School and the Psychology Department and, at first, she didn’t want to accept the joint appointment. However, after finding out that the University has a long history of combining law and psychology she agreed to the appointment. She combines her legal practice experience as a litigation attorney at law firms in Washington, D.C. and as a law clerk for United States District Court Judge Gerald Bruce Lee with her training as a trained research psychologist to address real-world legal problems. Dr. Walker is the Director and Principal Investigator for the Walker Lab. She and her team focus on improving legal decision-making outcomes by combating bias in treatment and punishment decisions. Some of the recent research she and the Lab focus on include investigating the perceived fairness of the methods used by universities and colleges related to sexual misconduct cases. Dr. Walker also offers advice for those interested in law and psychology as well as specific advice for African American or black students. Connect with Dr. Tammi Walker: Twitter | LinkedIn | UArizona Faculty PageConnect with the Show: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter https://vimeo.com/548267349 Interests and Specializations Dr. Walker uses psychological theory and empirical research methods, both quantitative and qualitative, to generate evidence which can be applied to real-life problems in the legal field. She has examined abuse between romantic partners, disproportionate minority contact in the juvenile justice system, and how universities adjudicate sexual misconduct claims. Education Bachelor of Business Administration (B.B.A.), Marketing and International Business (1999); Texas A&M. Doctor of Jurisprudence (J.D.)(2002); Columbia Law School Master of Science (M.Sc.), Social and Cultural Psychology (2009); London School of Economics. Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.), Psychology (2016); University of Virginia. Additional Sources and Links of Interest Tammi Walker - Complete List of PublicationsLondon School of Economics and Political ScienceMost affordable Social Psychology Master's and Doctorate Programs Podcast Transcription 00:00:14 BradleyWelcome to the Master’s in Psychology podcast, where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a graduate degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Tammy Walker to the show. Dr. Walker is an Associate Professor of Law and Psychology at the University of Arizona. She received her Ph.D. in Psychology from the University of Virginia and a JD from Columbia Law School. Dr. Walker is also the Director and Principal Investigator for the Walker lab. The College of Education at the University of Arizona offers an M.A. in Educational Psychology and an Ed.S. and Doctoral program in School Psychology. In addition, the College of Science offers multiple doctoral programs, including those in Clinical Psychology, Cognition and Neural Systems, and Social Psychology. Dr. Walker…Welcome to our podcast.00:01:13 TammiThank you so very much for having me. I’m happy to be here.00:01:16 BradleyI am excited to talk to you, the stuff that we've found out about you even before we started recording here is magnificent. I'm excited to share some of your experiences with everybody on the podcast. Before we get started, just tell us a little bit more about yourself.00:01:34 TammiSo, I am originally from Bryan-College Station, TX. I went to Texas A&M for undergrad and so I feel like that's one thing that you should know about me that defines a lot about my decisions, thereafter, because my parents told me that if I went to college in my hometown that I could go wherever I wanted to for Graduate School and there could be no discussion about, whatever I picked, so I stayed in my hometown. I basically grew up in the same house my entire life, but I kind of have a bit of a, a wanderer spirit and a lot of wanderlust and so. That's why I chose…my subsequent decisions meant that I chose the most different, different places possible and kind of varied experiences to try to in my mind, make up for the fact that you know I didn't get to do very much before the end of college.00:02:22 BradleyWell, it definitely shows in your Vita where you actually attended school and we're going to get into that a little bit later on as well, and you know one thing that I wanted to highlight, first of all, I kind of go in chronological order whenever I do these interviews. I kind of talk about your undergraduate, graduate and then how you made those decisions. So unlike others who have studied psychology first, it appears you wanted to get your law degree first. At what point did you know that you wanted to get your law degree?00:02:51 TammiSo, my parents actually met in our local courthouse in Brazos County and my dad was a police officer, he was a detective, he was the first black detective in Brazos County in Texas and my mom didn't work for the criminal justice system but her office, she was an account extension agent and her office was located at the courthouse and, as a kid, I spent a lot of time sort of around the courthouse hanging out. And I kind of was, I got to watch trials. I may or may not have watched a few death penalty trials when I was like 8 or 9. So I, I was always kind of intrigued by it, but one of the good things about growing up in a college town is I had a lot of opportunity to kind of be on campus and try to…try my hand at a lot of different things and so I tried a number of things. My oddest drop, it was probably, I worked at a forestry science lab, picking seeds out of pinecones one summer when I was like 13 or 14. All that to say that I tried and that kind of dabbled I had, uh, the ability and sort of the aptitude to do a lot of things, but I didn't really know what interests me, and so I tried as much as many things I could possibly try.And after high school the, the thing that kind of got me thinking, OK, maybe law schools, the thing is I volunteered at my local courthouse where my parents basically worked for a local judge there and my job essentially was to help her go through all her files we were all paper back then and to basically hand her a law book if she needed one, all of these kind of things and the thing that stood out to the most to me about that experience was how much the law impacts people's lives when they have no idea what's going on around them. And it was kind of scary to me. So, I saw for example, defense attorneys who just met their clients a few seconds before and were kind of like shuffling through the files to figure out what was going on in the case and of course make a recommendation, and I thought to myself, Oh my God, number one, I don't ever want to be in that position. I don't ever want to be in the position of, you know, having such, somebody else make these huge decisions about my life and me not have anything or really not be able to understand what's going on. But then also, I thought, you know, I want to be the person who, you know, can sit down with that person and explain everything and help them through the process. That was my kind of like 17–18-year-old brain thinking about that. So that was really my first idea or inkling that I might want to go to law school.00:05:28 BradleyThat…you brought up so many things I want to ask first of all, pinecones. I don't understand why you were taking the season, I don't want to highlight that, but that's interesting.00:05:36 TammiYeah, well, I mean it, the reason to talk about it, just because that was sort of like it was a program to try to get more women in STEM and so I worked with a lot of female scientists in a forestry science lab and they were genetically engineering loblolly pine trees and the DNA is in the seeds and so what, what I learned from that experience was I don't have the patience to do experiments that last 10 years for you to be able to figure out the results. And like sure enough, 10 years later they called me and they're like, oh hey, you know like this, you know, this is what happened and, you know, I, I was like no, that's not for me. Not, not that kind of long trajectory as far as that's concerned.00:06:18 BradleyRight, well, that's interesting. Now I, a lot of our audience may ask, how did you end up choosing to go to Columbia Law School versus some other schools?00:06:27 TammiSo, so my undergraduate major was in marketing. And I, I said that to me that I didn't really know what I wanted to do after undergraduate, I just knew I wanted to get out of Texas to have a different experience, and I didn't really know like job wise, what I wanted to do. I thought it would be better to go to graduate school and that kind of was my plan from the very beginning. And as I said, the deal with my parents, I'm an only child,

7: Justin Douglas “Doug” McDonald, Ph.D., L.P. – UND Professor & Program Caters to Native American Students Interested in Clinical Psychology Feb 03, 2021

In this podcast interview, Dr. Doug McDonald provides insight into why he stayed at the University of South Dakota for most of his academic career then explains how, and why, he selected clinical psychology as his field of study. He then shares how luck and hard work enabled him to serve as past regional president of the APA’s Division 45 and end up at the University of North Dakota, where he has been for almost 29 years. Dr. McDonald is currently a Professor in the Department of Psychology at UND and Director of the Indians into Psychology Doctoral Education (INPSYDE) program which falls under the Indian Health Service (IHS) American Indians Into Psychology (INPSYC) program. UND has produced more Native American/First Nations Ph.D. clinical psychologists than any other APA-accredited program. Dr. McDonald provides insightful advice to anyone interested in entering the psychology field then, later in the interview, he shares specific advice for Native Americans interested in a career in psychology. UND offers a Master of Arts or a Master of Science in Forensic Psychology. The department also offers two doctorate programs including one in Clinical Psychology (which is fully accredited by the APA) and another in General-Experimental Psychology. You can find additional information on each of those UND psychology graduate programs on our North Dakota page. Dr. McDonald has been involved in the INPSYC program for a long time. In fact, he was founder of the national Indians Into Psychology curriculum that was written into the federal Indian Health Care Improvement Act. UND is one of three Universities who are Grantees (2019-2023) of the American Indians Into Psychology (INPSYC) Program…the other two are Oklahoma State University and the University of Montana. There are only about 150-250 Native psychologists nationwide. Given that there are almost 2.2 million American Indians and Alaska Natives eligible for health care from IHS, this group is vastly underrepresented in psychology. Dr. McDonald shares his thoughts on how to increase the number of Native psychologists in the field and in Native American communities. He also discusses many useful resources and scholarships available to American Indians and other First Nations. I enjoyed talking with Doug because his passion for helping all students interested in furthering their academic careers in psychology is palpable and evident in this interview as is his devotion to his Native American heritage as a member of the Oglala Lakota Sioux tribe in South Dakota. I found him easy to talk to, relatable, and knowledgeable. Moreover, he truly is an advocate for increasing the ethnic minority presence in the field of psychology. When you talk with him about these topics, you are drawn into his cause and can’t help but wonder, “how can I help?” tokṡa Connect with Dr. Doug McDonald: LinkedIn | UND Faculty Page | WebsiteConnect with the Show: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter https://vimeo.com/507971435 Interests and Specializations Dr. McDonald is interested in clinical psychology, Native American assessment and treatment issues, and further developing and growing the Indians Into Psychology Doctoral Education (INPSYDE) program at the University of North Dakota. He is intent on recruiting and supporting Native, and non-Native, students for undergraduate and graduate study in psychology. Dr. McDonald is a licensed psychologist and uses CBT and Ecotherapy with his clients. Education Bachelor of Arts (B.A.), Clinical Psychology (1988); University of South Dakota. Master of Arts (M.A.), Clinical Psychology (1990); University of South Dakota. Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.), Clinical Psychology (1992); University of South Dakota. Additional Sources and Links of Interest Inside INPSYDE, UND’s Indians Into Psychology Doctoral Education program - UND TodayUND Indian Related Programs - Explore academic opportunities for American Indian Students at UND.The American Indian and Alaska Native Society of Indian Psychologists - Organization for Native American indigenous people.APA Minority Fellowship Program - MFP is committed to increasing the number of ethnic minority professionals in psychology.The Cobell Scholarship - Native American Scholarship Podcast Transcription Bradley (00:00:14)Welcome to the Master’s in Psychology Podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a master's degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Doug McDonald to the show. Dr. McDonald is a Professor of Psychology at the University of North Dakota and a licensed psychologist.The Department of Psychology awards either a Master of Arts or a Master of Science in Forensic Psychology. The Department also offers two doctorate programs: one in Clinical Psychology (which is fully accredited by the APA) and another in General-Experimental Psychology.Dr. McDonald is the Director for Indians Into Psychology Doctoral Education (INPSYDE) program as well as the American Indians Into Psychology (INPSYC) program. His areas of focus include Native American assessment and treatment issues within psychology, research, and graduate training. Dr. McDonald welcome to our podcast.Doug (00:01:18)Thank you for having me Brad. Aƞpétu wašté Aloh - It's a good day.Bradley (00:01:23)That is great I, I tried to go out and find some words that I could speak but, honestly, some of them are hard to pronounce and I'm glad, I had a, I had a feeling that you were going to open up with something like that because on our emails going back and forth it was nice to see some of that in the emails as well. So, I appreciate you opening up that way.I see that you're busy, and as we were talking…the reason that I reached out to you, for our audience, is I started to look at some programs and resources that are available for American Indians, Native Americans and even Alaskans. And I came across the IHS website, which is the Indian Health Service website, and then, of course, I came into, and learned more about, the American Indians Into Psychology (INPSYC) Program so we're going to talk about that and then we're going to also talk about that second program that you also are in charge of at UND. But before we do that, for our audience, just tell us a little bit more about yourself. (00:01:23) Tell us a little bit more about yourself. Doug (00:02:23)Well, I'm the product of mixed race and heritage in that my father, Art McDonald, is from Pine Ridge, SD Oglala Lakota tribe, my mom being pure German immigrant usurpers of Bennett County, South Dokota that they kind of took over. Somehow that happens star-crossed lovers and so grew up in, kind of both worlds with the white side of my family and the Lakota side of my family and grew up in, actually on the Northern Cheyenne Reservation in Lame Deer, Montana, southeastern part of Montana, and I've been a Professor here at UND for going on 30 years. I'm an avid hunter, fisherman, veteran, and live on a small ranch northwest of Grand Forks with my beautiful wife, Cher, and 11 cats, two horses, and a dog.Bradley (00:03:33)That's a lot to take care of, ah, one thing that I did notice when I was researching you is, you know we're going to…what I like to do during these interviews is kind of go chronologically, you know, your experiences and education, how you got into psychology, and then what led you to where you are right now. So, with that in mind, tell us a little bit more about your undergraduate experiences and at what point did you get into, or became interested, or become interested in psychology? (00:03:33) Tell us more about your undergraduate experiences and when did you become interested in psychology? Doug (00:04:03)Well, I became interested in psychology…well, first of all, I went to USD, University of South Dakota, on a track and field scholarship. I had been on the Navy track team and USD offered me a scholarship and plus my father was doing some kind of temporary work in the Psychology Department there at USD at the time, and so I had, I had a place to crash also so but…so my father, having a background obviously in psychology but, but even more so than that, I, I was lucky to find something that a lot of people don't, unfortunately, and that is an incredible mentor, Dr. Tom Jackson, who was there at the time who really…you know, I was kind of a rough-edged veteran coming out of the submarine force from the Cold War, and he really took me under his wing and he, he was just such a cool dude that I, it was really that simple as far as what got me to USD and then what got me into the field is, is he showed me what, what is possible in the field of clinical psychology and when I married that backwards to a lot of the problems and difficulties that I saw growing up on the reservation, things just started to click.Bradley (00:05:32)And I did notice, and I have a few friends that are in different nations, ah, I'm up in Minnesota, for those of you who may not know that, and so we have a bunch of different nations that my friends are into and it's, it's interesting to me, Doug, that even the different nations have their different dialect and language as well, and so I, I was going to ask you about this a little bit later on, but when I looked at the, I'm going to mispronounce this, so forgive me Oglala Lakota Nation is that right?Doug (00:06:07)That's pretty good.Bradley (00:06:08)OK, all right. So, I, I looked at that and I looked at the history and it's one of the longest running nations, one of the original in that area, and they went through a lot of turmoil, a lot of change, things have settled down. And then during my research when I was looking into how many American Indians are in the psychology field,

6: Heather C. Lench, Ph.D. – Surfing the Emerging Interdisciplinary Field of Affective Science to Better Understand Human Thought and Behavior Jan 20, 2021

In this podcast interview, Dr. Heather Lench explains why she selected two graduate schools in the state of California for her master’s and doctorate degrees in psychology. While most of the reasons relate to the school, program, and scholars in her field of interest, she eventually reveals another reason for staying in “The Golden State.” She also provides insight into how she selected her areas of interest while attending her undergraduate and graduate schools. She attended Florida State University (FSU) as an undergraduate where she received her Bachelor of Arts in Psychology. She then attended California State University, Fresno (CSUF) where she received her Master of Arts in Experimental Psychology and Marriage and Family Therapy. Dr. Lench then attended the University of California, Irvine (UCI) where she received her Doctor of Philosophy in Social Psychology. Dr. Lench shares how she ended up at Texas A&M University (TAMU) and how she grew through the ranks to become Professor and Department Head of the Department of Psychological and Brain Sciences. TAMU offers an M.S. Program in Psychology with a concentration in Industrial/Organizational (I/O) Psychology. TAMU also offers a Doctoral Program in Psychology with training in five areas of including Behavioral and Cellular Neuroscience, Clinical Psychology, Cognition and Cognitive Neuroscience, I/O Psychology, Social and Personality Psychology. In addition to being an accomplished teacher, mentor, and scholar, Dr. Lench is also the Director of, and Principle Investigator for, the Emotion Science Lab which conducts research based on the premise that emotions and “emotional processes are the foundation of cognition and behavior.” She and the Emotion Science Lab research team are currently investigating boredom and comparing those who respond positively to boredom with those who respond negatively in hopes of developing an intervention and techniques to help those who respond less effectively. I found Dr. Lench refreshing, insightful, and full of helpful advice. She is focused on helping students interested in the field of psychology as she includes undergraduate and graduate students on her Emotion Science Lab Research Team. The Lab includes a student resources page to help those interested in finding general information and other resources related to psychology. The student resources page also includes resources to help those applying to graduate schools. Connect with Dr. Heather Lench: LinkedIn Connect with the Show: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter https://vimeo.com/502475692 Interests and Specializations Dr. Lench is interested in learning how emotional processes impact behavior and thought. In particular, she assumes that emotions and emotional processes play an important role in the development of behavior and thought. As the principle investigator of the Emotion Science Lab, she and other researchers examine how and why affective responses and emotions impact people’s judgments and future behavior. They also study specific emotions and how they influence behavior and cognition. Much of her work would fall under the emerging field of affective science which takes a multidisciplinary approach bridging psychology, judgement and decision-making, and affective neuroscience using a variety of approaches and methods. Education Bachelor of Arts (B.A.), Psychology, Minor: English (1999); Florida State University. Master of Arts (M.A.), Experimental Psychology, Marriage and Family Therapy (2001); California State University, Fresno. Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.), Social Psychology, Double Minor: Quantitative and Developmental (2007); University of California, Irvine. Sources and Other Links of Interest Heather C. Lench Ph.D. - Google ScholarThe Functions of Emotions - Heather C. Lench - SpringerTexas A&M Psychological and Brain Sciences - TwitterTexas A&M Psychology - Facebook Podcast Transcription Bradley(00:00:14)Welcome to the Master's in Psychology Podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a master's degree in psychology.I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we welcome Dr. Heather Lench to the show. Dr. Lench is a Professor and Department Head of the Department of Psychological and Brain Sciences at Texas A&M University (TAMU). The Department offers a terminal master's program with a concentration in Industrial/Organizational (I/O) Psychology. The Department also offers a doctoral program with training in five key areas of psychology. Dr. Lench is also the Director and Principle Investigator for the Emotion Science Lab. Dr. Lench, welcome to our podcast.Heather(00:01:04)Thank you very much. It's good to be here and with your audience.Bradley(00:01:08)Well, good, I am glad and excited to have you on the show. I'm looking forward to learning a little bit more about your history and your past as well as a little bit more about what you're currently doing as Director and, as you know, your involvement in the Lab that we've talked about a little bit, so I'm looking forward to talking about all that. Before we get started though, for our audience, I'm going to give you the opportunity to just tell us a little bit more about yourself.Heather(00:01:36)OK, I was raised mostly in Florida and I've lived sort of all around the country at different points in my life. I'm currently located at Texas A&M University which is in College Station, TX kind of in the middle of the state and I am a professor, as you mentioned, in psychology and I'm what's now known as an affective scientist. So, this is a pretty new interdisciplinary field that focuses on the study of emotion using a variety of approaches and methods. A lot of my work focuses on understanding emotions and how they influence people's thinking and behavior. And, as you mentioned, I'm also the Department Head, which means I do a lot of the strategic planning and management for us.Bradley(00:02:19)Well, it sounds like you're a little busy…keeping busy with all that stuff. So, thank you for that high level overview. You covered some of the things that I was actually going to cover if you didn't mention them. But one thing that I wanted to share with the audience is, you know you're involved in this Lab, and when I looked into the Lab a little bit, it sounds like the Lab was started back in 2006, I believe, when I go to that Alumni page. Tell me what the goal of the lab is, and we can kind of discuss that right from the get-go.Heather(00:02:54)Yeah, so it's I guess I started the lab actually as a PhD student originally when I started working on independent projects on my dissertation, I wanted a way to organize a group of students to be involved on projects, and the Emotion Science Lab is how I did that, how I implemented it. So, we had a group that would come together. We would meet regularly and talk about ideas and studies that were going on, and then it's just continued and evolved and grown from there.Bradley(00:03:26)So hopefully everybody can see this…the home page for your Emotion Science Lab…Heather(00:03:33)It was cold that day.Bradley(00:03:35)Was it? I was just gonna ask you what I had in my notes. I'm going by your…It's almost like some of the people are shivering that day. So how long ago was this picture taken?Heather(00:03:42)Yeah…Ahh, let's see, so that would have been only about a year and a half ago.Bradley(00:03:49)OK, all right.I was gonna say I'm in Minnesota, you're in Texas, I can't even imagine, you know, being cold but I did live there so I understand where you're coming from. It does get a little bit chilly on certain days but yeah, thank you for that overview. It seems like, you know, most of this is a coordinated effort by both you and other investigators on the research team.And one of the other follow-up questions I had for you was, you know, when you look at the research team here, obviously it lists you as Principle Investigator, and then you have both doctoral and master's students. How do you select the people that are going to be involved in the lab and/or those that are going to be on the research team?Heather(00:04:35)Ooh, that's a great question. So, when I'm looking for Ph.D. students and master's students, I'm really looking for students that are interested in emotion and also that are able to think sort of big picture about theories and ideas and translate that into methods that we can actually implement and use in the in the Department.When we're looking for undergraduate students, who are usually research assistants in the lab, we're looking for people who are, you know, the same thing that companies are looking for…we're looking for people who are hungry, humble, and smart, right? So, people who are motivated, they want to be part of the group, they want to contribute to knowledge, and contribute to the lab.Bradley(00:05:20)Well, it sounds like you have a lot of people that are involved and, like I said, even on that website it even shows some of the former, you know, researchers that were involved in the, in the program as well. What are some of the key areas of interest that you guys are researching currently or going into the next school year?Heather(00:05:40)Um, so we have two, I guess, major projects going on right now. One is a book that's eventually, that's also going to translate into studies, and it's looking at how different types of biases, including optimism about our romantic partners, support our relationships, right? So, we're looking at whether being optimistic about your partner and having very positive views of your partner…if that helps relationships long term and helps people stay in relationships. And then the other bigger project that we're working on is related to boredom,

5: Tess M.S. Neal, Ph.D., L.P. – Endeavoring to Improve the Justice System by Combining Law and Psychology Dec 24, 2020

In this podcast interview, Dr. Tess Neal provides an overview of her academic journey since completing her B.A. at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln through her Ph.D. program at the University of Alabama to her current position as Assistant Professor of Psychology in Arizona State University’s School of Social and Behavioral Sciences. Dr. Neal is a licensed psychologist, and she reveals the choices she made when selecting a master’s and doctorate school and program while providing copious advice for those interested in seeking graduate degrees in psychology. Dr. Neal graduated with her Ph.D. in clinical psychology and has always had an interest in law and forensic psychology. Much of her early work focused on expert bias in the legal system, credibility, and juror perceptions. As a result of her persistence and dedication, she has become an award-winning teacher, scholar, and mentor. Dr. Neal was named a “Rising Star” by the Association for Psychological Science (APS) for her early career research on judgment, decision-making, and expert bias. The APS “Rising Star” designation is given to those whose innovative research has “already advanced the field and signals great potential for their continued contributions.” Recently, Dr. Neal was recognized for her long-standing commitment as a mentor as she received the ASU Outstanding Faculty Mentor Award (Outstanding Master’s Mentor). As the Director of ASU’s Clinical and Legal Judgment Lab, Dr. Neal works with students and other scholars to examine how human judgment intersects with psychology, law, and other sciences to better understand how people make decisions. From studying how to keep “junk science” out of the courtroom to studying the biases of forensic experts, Dr. Neal hopes her interdisciplinary research blending psychology, law, and ethics continues to improve the criminal justice system. She plans to continue studying the judgments, perceptions, and misperceptions of psychologists and other experts in the legal system as these have meaningful impacts on the real world. Connect with Tess M.S. Neal, Ph.D.: LinkedIn | TwitterConnect with the Show: Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter https://vimeo.com/494299396 Interests and Specializations Dr. Neal’s interests are reflected in her scholarly research. She is interested in reasoning, inference, and decision making among forensic experts, jurors, and judges. She is also interested in the effectiveness and validity of expert testimony and is currently examining psychologists’ judgments in legal contexts. In fact, if you are a licensed psychologist you can participate in her most current research and receive Continuing Education (CE) credits. Education Bachelor of Arts (B.A.), Double Major: Psychology and English, Double Minor: Sociology and Criminal Justice (2005); Graduated with Highest Distinction, Honors Program, University of Nebraska-Lincoln. Master of Arts (M.A.), Clinical Psychology (2007); Psychology and Law Concentration, University of Alabama. Doctor of Philosophy (Ph.D.), Clinical Psychology (2012); Psychology-Law Concentration, Quantitative Minor, University of Alabama. Professional Credentials Licensed Psychologist (L.P.), State of AZ (Lic #PSY-004630) and NE (Lic #844), voluntary inactive status. Other Links of Interest ASU Law and Behavioral Science InitiativeASU On Campus M.S. Program in PsychologyASU Online Master of Science in Forensic PsychologyASU Online Master of Science in PsychologyThe PLuS AllianceThe Night That Lasted A Lifetime: How Psychology Was Misused In Teen's Murder Case Podcast Transcription Bradley(00:00:13)Welcome to the Master's in Psychology podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a master's degree in psychology. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today I am excited to introduce Dr. Tess Neal. Dr. Neal is an assistant professor of psychology in ASU's School of Behavioral Sciences, which is one of three schools in the new College of Interdisciplinary Arts and Sciences. She is the founding faculty member of the Law and Behavioral Science Program and she is the director of the Clinical and Legal Judgment Lab. Dr. Neal is also a licensed psychologist in the state of Arizona. Dr. Neal…Welcome to our podcast.Tess(00:00:58)Thanks so much for having me. I'm excited to be here.Bradley(00:01:01)Well, I appreciate you getting on. I'm going to go ahead and kind of go right into it here. I know that you and I have talked a little bit about this, and I was excited when I started to research about ASU and kind of let you know what I've been doing. Obviously, our website is focused on all of the master’s and doctoral programs in the United States and we were updating ASU and I came across your lab and that actually piqued my interest. And so, I'm going to go ahead and just kind of ask you from the get-go, tell us a little bit more about this Clinical and Judgment Lab that you, I believe, you started a few years ago.Tess(00:01:37)Yeah, absolutely. I have been at ASU and started this lab back in 2015 and so which means and I'm on a tenure track position. Which means that right now I'm going up for tenure, so we'll find out in May if I am tenured or not.Bradley(00:01:51)Well, good luck, yeah, good luck.Tess(00:01:55)So, my training is at the intersection of law and psychology. I'm trained as a clinical psychologist and I'm licensed like you mentioned, and so my training is largely to go into the court system and help you know when judges or attorneys are concerned that there might be a person with mental illness involved in some aspect of the court system to help them understand whether the person is mentally ill or not and, umm, how to move forward in the in the legal process, you know if there's if there's structure that needs to be put into place or something to help somebody thrive in the Community if they have, you know, the intersection of mental illness and criminal justice involvement, so that's my professional background, but then my academic background I've always been very interested in in research and scholarship and just reading a lot and I got really interested in Graduate School in how people, especially professionals, integrate all this information when they're doing an assessment, you know to decide whether they think somebody is mentally ill, or whether somebody should, you know, receive the death penalty if they're doing a competence for execution evaluation, or something. I was really interested how they integrate all that information, and they all think they're objective, you know, that they're not biased at all by their own beliefs and attitudes, you know that their own attitude toward capital punishment would never influence the way they decide whether somebody is eligible for capital punishment. And that question really fascinated me if that's possible to kind of divorce your own thoughts and beliefs from your professional job and so that sort of launched me on to the research that I'm doing now, which is largely examining whether experts and professionals can be objective in in what they're doing.Bradley(00:03:44)And thank you for that explanation that was better said than even what I have written down here for you, so it's always nice to hear right directly from you. So, one thing that you mentioned was that you're looking at that intersection, and I know that one of your recent podcast contributions was to NPR's Hidden Brain podcast, and we're going to talk about that a little bit later, but you mentioned that you have the academic scholarship and your own interests, and when I looked at a lot of your…I have three screens in front of me, so if I'm turning my head just know that I'm looking at a lot of different things here…so I looked at a lot of your academic scholarship as well, and I've seen it kind of evolve since your bachelor's and then your master's and then going into your doctorate as well. And it's…I always find it interesting to follow a professor’s kind of interest because they're kind of reflected in their scholarship as well, so one of the things I should mention to everybody, all the audience members, is you're extremely active as a professor, researcher, and scholar. You're, as I said, you're the Director of the Clinical and Legal Judgment Lab which we just talked about, you're one of the founding members of the ASU's Law and Behavioral Science Initiative, which actually just won the 2020 President's Award for Innovation, and then you received many different internal and external honors and awards. I'm just going to mention a few of them here. 2020, one of the more recent ones, ASU Outstanding Faculty Mentor Award, 2019 Recipient of the Outstanding Research Award at ASU, 2018 Recipient of the Outstanding Teaching Award at ASU. Also, in 2018, you received the American Psychological Association (APA) Early Career Achievement Award. Now I should say that that's very impressive. It shows that you are love your job and you love the scholarly research, but you're also focused on the students, and that's kind of part of the reason why I think you started the lab, wouldn't you say?Tess(00:05:43)Yeah, and that's what the Law and Behavioral Science initiative that we have. It's, it's as with ASU, it's both, so we're very focused on scholarship and moving, you know, science forward, but we're also very focused on education and opening opportunities for any student at any stage of their life who's interested in, you know, moving forward their education in psychology or in forensic psychology or in psychology and law so we have a bunch of different academic programs that we can talk about.Bradley(00:06:15)OK,

4: Gabrielle Ferrara – The Promising Future of a Therapist Who Sees a Therapist Nov 24, 2020

In this podcast interview, Gabrielle Ferrara reveals how she decided which undergraduate and graduate schools to attend to help her become a Licensed Social Worker (LSW) and therapist in New Jersey. She explains why she got into the field of social work and discusses her plans for the future including what it takes to get your Licensed Clinical Social Workers (LCSW) licensure in NJ. Gabrielle has experienced many “firsts” in the last six months. She has graduated with her master’s degree, started a new job, got engaged to someone she dated in high school, and had her blog “Therapist Who Sees a Therapist” go live on Psychology Today with an article titled “Why Showing Emotion as a Therapist Is OK Sometimes.” She explains that it is OK to show empathy and compassion for others because we are all human. However, as a therapist, she needs to be aware of countertransference as it can be harmful to the client if it goes unchecked. As a rising mental health professional, Gabrielle admits that she is passionate about her career and providing the therapy that many people seek and need during these unprecedented times. In fact, she submitted a letter to COVID-19 frontline workers on The Mighty thanking them for their hard work and dedication. She reminds them to put on their COVID-19 mask, as well as their mental health mask, so they can emotionally endure the chaos they see daily. Gabrielle identifies the five words that she uses as a therapist and how they have helped her better understand her client’s experience. She shares why she is passionate about Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) and discusses one of her favorite psychological theories. Gabrielle currently works at The Counseling Center in Middlesex, NJ as a Substance Use and Mental Health Therapist and has become a “Super Contributor” on The Mighty. Connect with Gabrielle: Facebook | Twitter | LinkedInConnect with the Show: Facebook | Twitter | LinkedIn https://vimeo.com/483105713 Interests and Specializations Gabrielle specializes in substance use and mental health issues. She is a Licensed Social Worker (LSW) and works with both adolescents and adults. She is interested in the therapies used to treat Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) including Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP) Therapy which is a form of Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy (CBT). Gabrielle is also interested in the use of dialectics, dialectical statements, and Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT). She is working toward licensure as a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW). In New Jersey, all LCSW candidates must complete two years or 3,000 hours of supervised clinical social work experience with at least 1,920 hours spent providing direct client services. Education Bachelor of Arts (BA), Psychology/Criminology (2018); University of Miami.Master of Social Work (MSW), Clinical Social Work (2020); Rutgers University. Counseling Certificates and Licensure LSW – Licensed Social Worker Other Links of Interest https://thecounselingcenter.com/https://www.nami.org/Homehttps://iocdf.org/ https://twitter.com/GFerrara_LSW/status/1331373185695158273 Podcast Transcription Bradley(00:00:13)Welcome to the Master's in Psychology Podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there, and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a master's degree in psychology or related field. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher, and today we have the privilege of talking with Gabrielle Ferrara. After graduating from Morristown High School, Gabrielle attended University of Miami where she received her BA in Psychology and Criminology. She then attended Rutgers University where she received her master's degree in Clinical Social Work (CSW) with an emphasis on mental and behavioral health. Gabrielle served as a Mental Health Counselor and she did her internship at the Immediate Care Psychiatric Center in Parsippany, NJ. Gabrielle is a Licensed Social Worker (LSW) and currently works at The Counseling Center in Middlesex, NJ as a Substance Use and Mental Health Therapist. Gabrielle…Welcome to our podcast.Gabrielle(00:01:12)Thanks, Brad, I'm happy to be here. My name is Gabrielle Ferrara and I'm really honored to be on your podcast. So, thank you for having me.Bradley(00:01:20)Well, you're welcome. Thank you for being on the podcast. I know that a lot of our listeners are going to get a lot from you today. You have a lot of things going on, especially in the last six months. I mean you've graduated with your master's degree, you started a new job, you got engaged…Congratulations!Gabrielle(00:01:37)Thank you, thank you.Bradley(00:01:38)And you actually have your first blog post on Psychology Today, so a lot of exciting things in the last six months.Gabrielle(00:01:44)Yeah, it's been an exciting time.Bradley(00:01:47)So, let's go ahead and get right into it. I kind of wanted to open up the floor for you and ask you to tell me a little bit more about yourself other than what was in the introduction. You know what I did with the introduction for all of our audience members.Gabrielle(00:02:00)Yeah, so I mean you covered it pretty well in the introduction, but I'm from New Jersey born and raised. I'm currently still living where I grew up in Morristown. Just getting into the field of social work and starting my career. In my free time, I have an adorable little rescue dog that keeps me busy and keeps me on my toes so. Yeah, I mean I just I'm really happy to be here talking about my experience and my writing and my, my career at this point.Bradley(00:02:28)Well, good. How did you actually decide to get your Bachelor of Arts in Psychology and Criminology? What made you decide to go that route?Gabrielle(00:02:37)So, it's actually a funny story. I started college as a premed neuroscience major and then I realized that there was a lot of science and math involved in that that I was not interested in, so I…But I still really had a passion for mental health and the brain and all that stuff so the next logical step seemed to go into seem to be to go into psychology, so I switched my major psychology and began taking some courses and saw that there was an overlap between mental health and the criminal justice system, and some of those common themes among the two fields. And so, I added a criminology degree as well and kind of combined the two and got to see some of the overlap and it was an incredible combination of studies and field work and just a really good overall experience.Bradley(00:03:32)Yeah, and you know, based on our research on the website, we are seeing more of that overlap with criminology and psychology and more of those psychologists are needed in the criminal justice system as well, so it's interesting that you chose that route. You know the next follow up question is what is, you know, at what point did you come up with the idea of becoming a therapist?Gabrielle(00:03:56)Yeah, so that is something that didn't stand out to me at first. I wasn't really sure what I wanted to do with my psychology and criminology degree. I considered going into the FBI, some sort of police, criminal justice work. And then, I ultimately settled, not settled…I mean settled not the right word, but I made the decision to be therapist and go into clinical work based on my own experience in therapy. And I think we're going to get into that a little bit later, but my own experience in therapy and my good and bad experiences with different therapists really motivated me to want to give back and to be that person for someone else because I've had very good therapists and not so great therapists over the years and that just kind of comes with the territory, but it really motivated me to want to continue studying psychology, understanding it, understanding people and being that person for others to connect with.Bradley(00:04:50)Well, that's actually interesting. Now that you brought that up, if you don't mind, I'm going to go ahead and share my screen and I'm going to share one thing with you and the audience. I liked your tagline here and you should see the Psychology Today website here and here is your most recent blog post “Why Showing Emotion as a Therapist is OK Sometimes”. And if you notice on the left side, your tag is Gabriel Ferrara “Therapist Who Sees a Therapist”. Tell us a little bit more about that and how you came up with that idea.Gabrielle(00:05:21)Yeah, so I actually got that idea from a book I read earlier this year. I think it might have been late last year actually, and it was a book by Lori Gottlieb. She's a psychotherapist and author and also a speaker, and she has a memoir called “Maybe You Should Talk to Someone”, and in that memoir she talks about her own experience as a therapist and also her time that she spent going to therapy. And that book really resonated with me, and it was the first time that I had connected so deeply with a therapist who also goes to therapy themselves. And I knew that a lot of therapists go to therapy and it's something that we're encouraged to do in grad school but reading that book really made me feel like it was something normal and it was something not just normal, but an asset. It was a strength to be in therapy myself and also be on the other side of being in that helping position.Bradley(00:06:20)Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I mean it would add some credibility and some credence and you can share a little bit and actually, you know, relate with your clients as well going through therapy yourself. Do they ever ask you “Hey, what are you going to therapy for?”, and do you share that? Or how do you handle that type of question?Gabrielle(00:06:39)I haven't gotten that question specifically. It's one of those things that I don't disclose it.

3: Thomas Florez – A Revealing Journey on How to Become a Passionate Counselor and Therapist Aug 31, 2020

In this interview, Thomas Florez discusses the significant events and people that led him to become a passionate counselor and therapist later in life. Armed with a master’s degree in mental health counseling from Doane College, he reveals how his real-life experiences and multiple licensures and certificates have helped him relate to, and connect with, his clients to help them create their own success story. Tom also offers advice to those interested in becoming a counselor and shares how he decided what graduate school to attend. He has worked in various hospitals, rehabilitation and treatment centers including the Friendship House, St. Francis Memorial Hospital, Hall County Detention Center, and Horizon Recovery Center. Tom worked as a dual diagnosis outpatient counselor and therapist at Mid-Plains Center for Behavioral Health and Professional Care Counseling before taking a position at Richard Young Hospital as a therapist. He has worked with the Aftercare-In-Action organization to help inmates make the transition from being incarcerated to re-entering the community. Tom now works at Alfrey and Florez Counseling in Grand Island, NE helping his clients find their authentic, genuine selves while changing their direction in life. Tom attended Doane College where he received a B.A. in Human Relations and an M.A. in Mental Health Counseling. He is a Licensed Independent Mental Health Practitioner (LIMHP) and a Licensed Alcohol and Drug Counselor (LADC). Tom is also a Certified Sex Offender Treatment Specialist (CSOTS). https://vimeo.com/453419455 Interests and Specializations Tom specializes in addiction issues and family/couples conflict. He works with adolescent behavioral issues and is a Licensed Alcohol and Drug counselor as well as a Certified Sex Offender Treatment Specialist. The types of therapy he is trained in include Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) and Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT). Education Bachelor of Arts (B.A.), Human Relations (2010); Doane College.Master of Arts (M.A.), Mental Health Counseling (2013); Doane College. Counseling Certificates and Licensure LIMHP – Licensed Independent Mental Health PractitionerLADC – Licensed Alcohol and Drug CounselorCSOTS – Certified Sex Offender Treatment Specialist Links Mentioned in the Podcast https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-florez-plmhp-ladc-2b623228/https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/tom-florez-grand-island-ne/394304https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/alfrey-and-florez-counseling-grand-island-ne/742598https://alfreyflorezcounsling.com/ Podcast Transcription BradleyWelcome to the Master's in Psychology podcast where psychology students can learn from psychologists, educators, and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there and hear the advice they have for those interested in getting a master's degree in psychology or related field. I'm your host, Brad Schumacher and today we have the privilege of talking with Mr. Tom Florez. After graduating from Grand Island Senior High, Tom attended Chapman University before attending Doane College where he received a B.A. in Human Relations and an M.A. in Mental Health Counseling. Tom is a Licensed Independent Mental Health Practitioner (LIMHP) and a Licensed Alcohol and Drug Counselor (LADC). He is also a Certified Sex Offender Treatment Specialist (CSOTS). Tom has worked in various hospitals, rehabilitation and treatment centers, and has worked with the Aftercare-In-Action organization to help inmates make the transition from being incarcerated to re-entering the community. We are excited to have Tom as a guest as we know some of our audience may be interested in becoming counselors. Tom, welcome to our podcast.ThomasThank you Brad for having me, I appreciate it.BradleyWell, to start off, again I want to thank you for taking the time to meet with us today and I, as I said, most of our listeners are going to benefit from your experience and your advice. You have a good experience behind you, and we're just going to go ahead and get right into it. First of all, tell us a little bit about yourself.ThomasWell, I've been in the field since 2013. I've got my own private practice with my partner. And we're serving the central Nebraska area. So that's, I was married, and I have seven children, the youngest is an eleven-year-old.BradleyAnd I noticed that you just had one that just had a birthday, based on your…I did some research on Facebook as well…And I think you had one, I think, was it…was it…was it Cody who just had a birthday? Yeah.ThomasHe's our 11-year old. Yeah.BradleyOkay. Well congratulations…seven kids. My gosh, keeps you busy.ThomasI am 62 years old. So, I think we're kind of done now.BradleyRight, right. Well, it definitely keeps you busy and then you have to keep in mind all their birthdays. When I was scrolling through all of the Facebook posts that you had it was interesting to see all of the reminders of the birthdays, as well as some of the fun stuff that some of your kids have been going through, for…I think you called her CC…is it Cecile?…debuted as a stand-up comedian back in January last year. How did that go?ThomasRight. Cecily. She's, she's the youngest and she did really well. I was, I was a little apprehensive because I've never seen her as being funny but when she got up there. She did really well so. Everyone seemed to enjoy her, so.BradleyGood….Good, good. So, you know what I wanted to ask you, was you know what initially got you interested in counseling?ThomasAh, that's interesting question. What got me interested in counseling. Ahh, I was actually later, it came later in life for me. I was about 42. To kind of preface it a little bit, when I was 25 years old I was married to my first wife, and we had got into a car accident and we had two children in my young my oldest son was killed.BradleyOh no, I'm sorry to hear that.ThomasYeah. And that kind of ended our marriage. I mean I'd known her since she was 14, she was the love of my life. But tragedy either separates you or brings you closer and with being as young as we were and no one really telling us how to deal with the trauma, we kind of we kind of went our separate ways, dealing with it best as we could. And as time went by, I dealt with it through addiction. And through the years, and not really dealing with it by the time I became 42 I had come to the conclusion my life needed some changes. Still not looking at being a therapist whatsoever. And I had some experiences with the legal system, as you may have and so once I made a decision to go in a different direction with my life, I decided that I wanted to get a job. Wasn't really sure what I was going to do. And my brother had a friend that was working as a tech at the treatment center here in Grand Island. And so, he asked me if I wanted to be tech. And I go, sure. And basically, you march people around and get them to the classes and take notes and watch them at night. Whatever their behavior is. But what it kind of made me decide to become a therapist was I seen the transitions of people coming in, struggling with their addictions, as I had in the past. And seeing transformations in their life, and I, I had thought that this is something I wanted to do. I want to be a part of, you know, take a and perhaps you know contribute to what I could from my own experiences. And so, there was two therapists that I worked with that they approached me and asked me if I would be interested. If I have ever thought about being a therapist and I was laughing like no, no, no. That wouldn't be me. Not from my background and the fact that was that I was in my already in my 40's and a therapist that I had worked with Dick Stocker. He was amazing. He was 78 years old and he was able to connect with people, regardless of age from 18 to 80. He just had that ability to connect with them. And I thought that was amazing. And he had told me, hey that's I was 40 when I started. And so, it me made me think it was possible. So that's kind of how I became, I wanted to do something that was, that contributed to the community that was greater than myself, you know. Previously had worked in the restaurant field and I'd really hadn't got I did it because they knew how to do it, but it was really not anything that I was, that I felt passionate about. So, once I started work, going to school and studying the field. Yeah, I got pretty passionate about it so.BradleyWell, you know, it's interesting that you say that because a lot of times when I talk to people, they always say something either abrupt something happened in their lives that actually got them to think about going down that career path and it sounds Like this was one of them, especially your, your friend and colleague Dick, who showed you that it doesn't matter your age, you can still relate to everybody. And in some ways, you know, unfortunately, you had to go through that experience and that addiction. But in other ways that almost gives you a little bit more credibility when you're talking to people about their own addiction and if you, you know, if you share that or if you feel free to share that with your clients, it helps them relate to you a little bit more. Don't you think?ThomasAbsolutely, absolutely. And many people have asked me, do you have regrets having to lose your child and go through all that addiction and all that all the trauma that goes along with that. And if you had asked me 30 years ago I would of said, absolutely you know it's been horrible and but today I look, it was an invaluable experience because I am able to connect with my clients. There's not too much they can come in and talk with me that I can't identify with and that was the purpose of coming in and as a therapist to help them navigate through the course of recovery and restructuring your life. In, you know, in order to be more productive and happy.

2: Mariah Schumacher – Thoughts and Experiences of a Psychology Student Jul 16, 2020

In this interview, Mariah shares how an initial interest in an introductory psychology class inspired her to pursue, and customize, a Bachelor of Science Degree in Psychology with a minor in Cognitive Science from the University of Minnesota-Duluth Department of Psychology. She discusses her areas of study, research, and presentations at professional conferences as well as her role with the Mobile Neuroscience Lab for UMD Neuroscience outreach. She also shares how she learned about, and attained, a position as Clinical Research Coordinator in the Department of Psychiatry at the University of Minnesota after she graduated from UMD. Mariah describes how specific psychology classes helped to shape her perception of the world and enrich her personal life. She comments “I try to help people around me as much as I can, that is all I can ever do…help them feel comfortable, safe, and loved and maybe that will help shift their perception of something being a failure to a learning opportunity.” Mariah also talks about her ability to see colors associated with words (a.k.a., synesthesia) as well as her thoughts and experiences while travelling abroad for 9 months. She reveals her favorite psychology terms and shares her advice for others searching for a graduate school in psychology. https://vimeo.com/437547990 Research Interests Mariah’s primary research interests include neural development, cognition, psychoneuroimmunology, and neural correlates of consciousness. Publications/Presentations/Poster Sessions Schumacher, M.J., Hjelle, R., & Lloyd, R. (November, 2017). Autonomic and central correlates of empathic response and sub-clinical psychopathy as reflected in heart rate variability and cerebral activity. Poster session presented at the Society for Neuroscience conference, Washington, D.C.. Schumacher, M.J., Hjelle, R., & Lloyd, R. (April, 2017). Empathic Response and Sub-Clinical Psychopathy. Poster session presented at the National Conference for Undergraduate Research, Memphis, TN. Mrkonjich, M., Schumacher, M., Warneke, B. (April, 2016). Parenting Style and its Effect on Children's Adult Romantic Relationships. Poster session presented at the Twin Ports Undergraduate Psychology Conference, Superior, WI. Bachelor of Science, Psychology (2017); University of Minnesota – Duluth. Update: Mariah Schumacher is applying to the Ecology, Evolution and Behavior Graduate Program in the College of Biological Sciences at the University of Minnesota. Podcast Transcription BradleyWelcome to the master's in psychology podcast. One of our goals for this podcast is to interview and highlight psychologists, psychiatrists, educators and practitioners to better understand what they do, how they got there and share the advice they have for students wanting to receive a Master's Degree in Psychology. For one of our first podcasts we wanted to talk to a student who recently finished her undergraduate degree in psychology. Today I have the pleasure of talking with Mariah Schumacher. Mariah has a Bachelor of Science in Psychology with a minor in cognitive science from the University of Minnesota Duluth. Mariah has presented at multiple conferences in various states, including Wisconsin, Tennessee and Washington DC. In 2017 she received the Undergraduate Research Opportunity Grant for her research project titled empathic response and subclinical psychopathy. She previously held a role with a mobile neuroscience lab for UMD neuroscience outreach. Upon completion of her undergraduate degree from UMD, she then joined the Department of Psychiatry as a full time clinical research coordinator in the fetal alcohol spectrum disorders lab at the University of Minnesota. Mariah's primary research interests include neural development, cognition, psychoneuroimmunology and neural correlates of consciousness. Mariah, welcome to our podcast.MariahOh, thank you. I'm super excited to do this podcast over webcam.BradleyYes, and and in today's world, with the COVID and the riots and everything else that have been happening more and more people are doing the virtual meetings like through zoom and anything else. So I think more and more people are getting comfortable doing it, but it's still a little strange, because you're not with that person and you don't really pick up on those non verbals as much as you would if you were in person, but we see you. You look great. You got a good background I see all the tattoos. So tell me, first of all, what made you think about getting tattoos? And how long have you been getting tattoos?MariahWow, that's a question. Um, I guess my first tattoo was when I was 18 or 19 and I've been in college pursuing my bachelor's in psychology for about a semester and really was loving everything in my life and the place where I was, was up in Duluth, Minnesota. Next to Lake Superior. And I just wanted some sort of symbol and being an 18 year old wanting a tattoo on my body. I ended up getting Minnesota and Lake Superior on my ankle and this very cool watercolor. It wasn't the most above board operation for my first tattoo and they didn't ask for our IDs and we had to pay all in cash. And it was a little bit questionable. But I was really excited to have it. And then after that. More things just came up in my life that I wanted to put on my body for various reasons. And now I have some tattoos. BradleyHow many do you have?MariahI lose count sometimes, I think its 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. Something like that.BradleyAnd what is your most recent tattoo?MariahI most recent Tattoo is this mosquito on my arm. Let's see, how can you see it like that.BradleyRight there.MariahMosquito right above the brain tattoo that I have that I love a lot. Also, I got right after I graduated mosquito tattoo I got in Cluj Romania in August this past summer.BradleyOkay. And speaking of that, you mentioned a couple things related to some of the questions I was going to ask. So the first one was obviously you were at the University of Minnesota up in Duluth. So tell me some of your fondest memories, while you were up in Duluth.MariahThe city itself is a really magical place because of being on a hill, all the time and gravity kind of feels like it is pulling you toward the water because at the bottom of this hill is the Great Lake Superior. We built a really nice relationship over my years living in the city. And but one thing that's coming to mind for memorable moments when I was at the University of Minnesota Duluth are not actually so much to do with my psychology courses but with how I implemented the knowledge. I think it was pretty sub conscious at that point, but also not. I worked at a radio station at the time, and was a DJ at night and during the day. And a lot of times while I was in the radio station, I would have really good one on one conversations with people. So I would either be doing my show and then while songs are playing someone would be in there with me and we'll be chatting. Or I would be the one hanging out in the radio station while someone else was doing their show and it became a really special intimate place to kind of use my inquiry tools that I was learning so much about in my classes and get to form some really strong connections because of those conversations and being able to use my tools that I had been gaining on the human psyche and how to inquire with other humans about their experience more accurately.BradleySo, You know, I have so many questions for you. And I'm trying to flow naturally with what your responses were. And one of them was some of your interests. And you know why you went to the University of Minnesota Duluth and I guess one basic question for the listeners and viewers, because this is going to be both in the audio and the visual visual form is what what initially got you interested in psychology?MariahYeah, I was thinking about this earlier today. Um, I thought I had an answer. But the more I thought about it. I'm not exactly sure. I really enjoyed my general psych course that I took in Community College. I actually got to see in that class. But it was so challenging and I loved the materials so much that definitely had an influence but I had this other type of motivation that drew me towards thinking about thinking, which is how psychology was often presented to me. And I knew that was something I was Interested in for a long time. I remember in middle school and high school thinking I was going to grow up and do my doctorate on why people acted the way they did. And one of those little sub sections being how if someone was in a gifted and talented program in elementary school. Someone else was not. How the pressure of that system changed outcomes for people who, if they had been the same ones in separate situations would have different experiences. And so I had these kind of questions coming to me throughout my I guess pre college education. And when I found psychology. It seemed to really connect kind of give words to these questions that I had been asking.BradleyAnd so what areas of psychology did you find the most interesting back then and have those changed now?MariahUm, well, it's kind of hard. A lot of people really like abnormal psychology. I did find it very interesting. That's a specific mental disorders, I suppose, schizophrenia, bipolar kind of learning more about these Illnesses, mental illnesses, that people survive with. But I am actually remembering that I connected really well with developmental psychology that was fascinating to me, learning how the brain formed and grew and over time really was impacted by so many factors. So that was a big one. Another class I really enjoyed was transpersonal psychology. Was very different, very different. And I liked the different quite a bit.BradleySo, you know, a lot of people remember some favorite teachers and or courses and you've talked about a couple of courses. Do you remember,

1: Bradley Schumacher – Your Podcast Host Mar 25, 2020

I am a teacher/educator at heart. I have taught at the University of Akron, Kent State University, Walsh University, and University of North Texas. I enjoyed teaching as it gave me great satisfaction to help students learn and apply the ideas and skills they learned in my classes. This was reinforced when I received multiple Teacher of the Year awards. I taught classes in interpersonal communication, public speaking, business and professional speaking, small group decision making, and organizational communication. In addition to these classes, I also provided help to students who had a fear of public speaking. I utilized the Systematic Desensitization (SD) technique as well as other visual techniques to help them overcome their fear. The reason I am involved with MastersinPsychology.com is that I grew up with people who were involved with psychology. My mother is a licensed psychologist (imagine the advantages and disadvantages of this 😊) and I considered becoming a psychologist for a while. My daughter has now finished her undergraduate studies and has focused on behavioral psychology and other areas of psychology. Her mother and I have advanced degrees and have traveled extensively and we have instilled the need for, and benefits of, continuing to learn (through formal and informal education) and travel to open your eyes to the world around you and experience different cultures. She is now traveling the world before continuing her education and is considering a master’s in psychology. When researching the schools and programs for master’s in psychology, I found that you needed to use multiple websites to get the information you wanted (and needed) so we created a website that has the information you needed as well as a summary of the major topic areas in psychology to help students decide which area (or areas) they would like to pursue. Our goal is provide up-to-date information on programs and schools which offer graduate degrees in psychology as well as additional information. I will provide some additional resources as well as manage the blog posts and podcasts where I will interview many different psychologists and psychiatrists to get more information and advice that students can use when making choices regarding their academic careers. Please check back frequently to see updated information, blog posts, and podcasts. We appreciate your support and feedback. Sincerely,Bradley https://vimeo.com/392991667 Education Bachelor of Arts, Broadcast Communication (1992); University of North Dakota - Grand Forks, NDMaster of Science, Interpersonal Communication (1994); University of North Texas - Denton, TXDoctoral Program, Interpersonal Communication (ABD); Kent State University – Kent, OH Time-Stamped Interview Highlights 00:42Introductions:Curt Carstensen of the People I Know Show Interviews Brad Schumacher, Host of the MastersinPsychology.com Podcast. 01:56Why are you the Podcast Host and involved in MastersinPsychology.com?My mom is a Licensed Psychologist and has been in psychology for most of my life. I have taught for 8-9 years at the University level at the University of Akron and also Kent State University. I am a teacher at heart and wanted to start a website to help those who were interested in continuing their education in psychology. I was considering going into psychology myself and instead went down the communications route in broadcast communications and interpersonal communications. My daughter has finished her undergraduate degree in psychology at the University of MInnesota Duluth recently and wants to continue her education in psychology as well. 04:14How will your website help future graduate psychology students?The biggest selling point is I will be visiting and interviewing different psychologists, professors, psychiatrists and current psychology students to talk about their field of study and what they are specializing in. I will be asking them questions about their particular field of psychology and I would also ask them "if someone were to go into their particular field, what advice would they have and what would they suggest?"07:02What type of multimedia skills do you have to run the video and audio portions of the website?I started off in broadcasting at University of Wisconsin River Falls for my first two years of my undergraduate degree and then transferred to the University of North Dakota. While at UWRF I did some radio shows with a good friend named Tim and it was called the "Badly Bradley and Timber Too Show". After transferring to UND I became the local meteorologist for the local campus TV Station "Studio One". 08:50What was your next stop after graduating from UND?From UND I went to the University of North Texas in Denton, Texas where I studied for my Master's in Interpersonal Communication. After completing my Master's at UNT I wanted to continue my education and went to Kent State University and I continued teaching there and also taught at the University of Akron. 11:18What else will be on the website MastersinPsychology.com?In addition to having interviews of psychology professors, current students, and psychologists, the website will show all the different Master's in Psychology degree types and which schools are offering those across the United States. The schools can be filtered by state or degree type and will be ranked according to affordability. 13:47If you were a student continuing your education in psychology, what important factors would you want to see in a graduate psychology website?What tends to be the thing I want to know right away is how much is this going to cost me. I want to be able to look within the range of prices that I am willing to jump into. If I am going to start a psychology program, what are the ones I can do for a reasonable price. I would also like to search by location and other metrics.16:20What does communication studies share with psychology?A lot of cognitive psychologists, behavioral psychologists, applied psychologists, and other types of psychologists and psychiatrists have necessary skills in communication, patience and listening and that's why I get excited about psychology. It blends well with my degrees in interpersonal communication and broadcasting.18:40Would Bradley be a good guest for the "People I Know" podcast?I am the owner of a Toyota Prius, mostly because of you. When you learned I was looking into buying a different vehicle, you gave a very strong pitch for why I should get a Prius. Not only did I buy a Prius but I bought it from the same guy at the same dealership that you did. Whether or not it was the best thing for me, it happened because of you, so having a conversation about that and whatever extends from that, I think can lead into a conversation worth listening to. Follow "People I Know Show" on Facebook, Instagram and YouTube for photos, videos and to interact with other listeners.***Update*** Bradley was indeed a guest on the People I Know Show!!

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