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**Marathon Investigation Podcast**

The Marathon Investigation Podcast is an extension of the Marathon Investigation website. Not everyone agrees with the methods of M.I.. Among the critics is co-host, Scott Kummer. This difference in opinion will lead to some entertaining interactions and valuable insights. The podcast features many of the top names in endurance sports.

Latest Episodes:

Bre Tiesi Manziel and More with Tony Portera Mar 22, 2019

On this episode we talk about a variety of topics with repeat guest Tony Portera.

Bre Tiesi-Manziel and an email I received from prison
Thoughts on mid and back of the pack cheating
Apparent cheating at Tunnel Hill 100 and whether we feel that the person should be 'outed'
More Kelly Agnew type cheating at a recent fixed time event

To support the podcast,become a patron on Patreon.

Patreon: http://patreon.com/marathoninvestigation

Website: www.marathoninvestigation.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/marathninvestgr

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marathoninvestigation

Listen to Scott's podcast - Ten Junk Miles:

http://www.tenjunkmiles.com

Davy Crockett - The Story of Kelly Agnew Feb 22, 2019

On this episode we talk with Ultra Runner and Ultra Historian Davy Crockett. Davy has completed exactly 100 hundred mile races.

You can find Davy's podcast and articles at ultrarunninghistory.com.

Davy came on to tell his story of his experience with Kelly Agnew. Kelly was famously disqualified after skipping laps in a 24 hour race by hiding out in porta-poties.

Kelly found himself in the news again after being charged with multiple counts of theft.

Davy was friends with Kelly, and was one of the first to suspect and witness Kelly's behaviors. He tried to do everything he could to stop this behavior before reaching out to Marathon Investigation.

Davy tells the story from beginning to end with the hope that Race Directors will learn from the events and circumstances that allowed Kelly to continue cheating at races for years.

To support the podcast, and for the opportunity to listen to bonus content, become a patron on Patreon.

Patreon: http://patreon.com/marathoninvestigation

Website: www.marathoninvestigation.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/marathninvestgr

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marathoninvestigation

Listen to Scott's podcast - Ten Junk Miles:

http://www.tenjunkmiles.com

News and Updates #2 Feb 11, 2019 Feb 11, 2019

Marathon Investigation News and Updates

Bib Forger

CIM Runner Disqualified for Using Unauthorized Pacer

Upcoming Article on Political Candidate's Ironman claims

To support The podcast go to Patreon:

https://www.patreon.com/marathoninvestigation

Please subscribe, rate and review.

Rich Heller - Kip Litton Blogger Feb 08, 2019

On this episode we talk with Rich Heller who authored a detailed blog on infamous cheater Kip Litton.

Rich is an admitted 'letsrun troll'. We talk about the story of Kip Litton, letsrun, and cheating in general.

We reference The New Yorker article on Kip many times. Here is the link:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/08/06/marathon-man

To support the podcast, and for the opportunity to listen to bonus content, become a patron on Patreon.

Patreon: http://patreon.com/marathoninvestigation

Website: www.marathoninvestigation.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/marathninvestgr

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marathoninvestigation

Listen to Scott's podcast - Ten Junk Miles:

http://www.tenjunkmiles.com

News and Updates #1 Jan 28 2019 Jan 28, 2019

Marathon Investigation News and Updates

Disney recap

Upcoming Article - Perry Newburn - New Zealand record attempt.

Questions from The Marathon Investigation Group.

Have I investigated whether money raised by races actually gets to to charity?

What to do if you witness someone cheating and the Race Director doesn't respond?

My thoughts on whether The BAA should have stricter standards on what races can be Boston qualifiers.

To support The podcast go to Patreon:

https://www.patreon.com/marathoninvestigation

Please subscribe, rate and review.

Eli Asch - California International Marathon Race Director Jan 25, 2019

On this episode we talk with The California International Marathon Race Director Eli Asch.

CIM has served as The USATF National Championship Marathon.

Eli first contacted Marathon Investigation for guidance regarding how to handle a bib muling situation. Shortly after that, CIM partnered with Marathon Investigation, and has served on the results verification committee.

We speak on a variety of topics including that first bib muling case, a difficult disqualification from The 2018 CIM Marathon, downhill marathons and more.

To support the podcast, and for the opportunity to listen to bonus content, become a patron on Patreon.

Patreon: http://patreon.com/marathoninvestigation

Website: www.marathoninvestigation.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/marathninvestgr

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marathoninvestigation

Listen to Scott's podcast - Ten Junk Miles:

http://www.tenjunkmiles.com

Sabrina Little - Elite Ultra Runner and Ethicist Jan 18, 2019

We talked with Sabrina Little.

Sabrina is a 4 time USATF 100 Mile National Champion. She is also an Ethicist.

After Sabrina landed on the Podium in The 2013 24 Hour World Championships, she was subject to out of competition drug testing. She talks about that process and the importance of being held accountable.

We take a close look at ethics in running and beyond and how the little instances of deception lead to larger lies and greater deception.

Sabrina speaks about how, as a competitor, she believes there should be consequences to those that cheat. She also is uncomfortable with the 'shaming' aspect that results from publicly outing someone.

She wrote a 'A Discourse on Cheating' on irunfar.com.

We reference the below books - clicking will take you to Amazon. Marathon Investigation is an Amazon Affiliate. If you purchase through the links, Marathon Investigation will earn a percentage of that purchase.

Steven Carter - Integrity

The Character Gap - Christian Miller

Evil: Inside Human Violence and Cruelty - Roy Baumeister

Sam Harris - Lying

To support the podcast, and for the opportunity to listen to bonus content, become a patron on Patreon.

Patreon: http://patreon.com/marathoninvestigation

Website: www.marathoninvestigation.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/marathninvestgr

Tony Portera - Runner, Attorney, and Psychologist Jan 11, 2019

On this episode we talk with Tony Portera. Tony is a lawyer, a psychologist and an ultra runner.

Tony has participated in several races that have been mentioned on Marathon Investigation.

We discuss some specific cases of cheating and have a general discussion on his thoughts on cheating, and his thoughts on shaming, and when publicly outing cheaters may be appropriate.

We also have an interesting discussion on different types of cheating and we debate whether there are different levels of cheating or if all cheating should be looked at equally.

To support the podcast, and for the opportunity to listen to bonus content, become a patron on Patreon.

Patreon: http://patreon.com/marathoninvestigation

Website: www.marathoninvestigation.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/marathninvestgr

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marathoninvestigation

Scott's podcast: Tenjunkmiles.com

Rudy Novotny - The Voice of America's Marathons Jan 04, 2019

On this episode we talk with race announcer Rudy Novotny.

Rudy is best known for his work at Disney races. Rudy has been at the finish line for hundreds of races, and has seen it all. We talk about Disney specifically, as well as his experiences at other races.

We ask Rudy how he got started with race announcing, and he shares his story.

Rudy has strong opinions on bandits and bib swappers and is not afraid to call the runners out at the finish. He shares some interesting stories from over the years.

To support the podcast, and for the opportunity to listen to bonus content, become a patron on Patreon.

Patreon: http://patreon.com/marathoninvestigation

Website: www.marathoninvestigation.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/marathninvestgr

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marathoninvestigation

Listen to Scott's podcast - Ten Junk Miles:

Kit Fox - Runner's World - Author of Boston Cheating Article Dec 28, 2018

On this episode we talk with Kit Fox of Runner's World.

Kit wrote the first major article regarding Marathon Investigation. When I was looking for runners that cheated to get into The 2015 Boston Marathon, Kit reached out and I shared my findings with him and he became very much a part of the process. He talks about one that we initially got wrong and his discussion with the runner.

Kit wrote other articles regarding cheating, and we discuss the process they followed, the ethics of calling out cheats, and we reference a few specific article that Kit worked on such as Rob Young (Rode in his RV when he should have been running his transcon).

To support the podcast, and for the opportunity to listen to bonus content, become a patron on Patreon.

Patreon: http://patreon.com/marathoninvestigation

Website: www.marathoninvestigation.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/marathninvestgr

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marathoninvestigation

Listen to Scott's podcast - Ten Junk Miles:

http://www.tenjunkmiles.com

Frankie Ruiz - Miami Marathon Race Director (and Bandit Buster) Dec 19, 2018

On this episode we talk with Miami Marathon Founder and Race Director Frankie Ruiz.

Frankie is known by Marathon Investigation followers for videotaping race bandits as they pull them off the course. Frankie would rather be known for his promotion of running, coaching success, and work within the Miami community.

We talk about all of the above, and more.

To support the podcast, and for the opportunity to listen to bonus content, become a patron on Patreon.

Patreon: http://patreon.com/marathoninvestigation

Website: www.marathoninvestigation.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/marathninvestgr

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marathoninvestigation

Listen to Scott's podcast - Ten Junk Miles:

http://www.tenjunkmiles.com

Bart Yasso Talks About Cheating (and Other Stuff) Dec 14, 2018

On this episode we cover a variety of topics with "The Mayor of Running" Bart Yasso.

Bart has been the face of running for over 30 years as Chief Running Officer (C.R.O) of Runner's World. He recently retired, but he is still very much involved in the world of running.

Bart is not afraid to speak his mind. He has strong opinions, and is always looking for what is best for the sport of running.

We talk about a wide variety of topics, including:

The impact of social media on cheating
Mike Rossi and Lehigh Valley Via Health Network Marathon
Should The B.A.A. limit how many races are Boston Qualifiers?
Runner's World - His thoughts on The "How to Bandit" article
Kelly Agnew - Ultra Marathon Cheater

To support the podcast, and for the opportunity to listen to bonus content, become a patron on Patreon.

Patreon: http://patreon.com/marathoninvestigation

Website: www.marathoninvestigation.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/marathninvestgr

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marathoninvestigation

Listen to Scott's podcast - Ten Junk Miles:

http://www.tenjunkmiles.com

Jonathan Cane - Coach and Race Vigilante Dec 08, 2018

Jonathan Cane was catching race cheaters for many years before Marathon Investigation was created.

Jon is a New York City based coach, and started looking for cheaters that bumped his athletes from awards. He was featured in a 2016 article by Runner's World.

Cheaters Beware: This Guy is Onto You

Jon and Derek first became acquainted during the aftermath of The Mike Rossi message board discussions. We talk about Kip Litton, Mike Rossi and more.

We also take a deep dive into Jonathan's Who Want's To Be a Millionaire appearance.

Website: www.marathoninvestigation.com

Patreon: http://patreon.com/marathoninvestigation

Twitter: https://twitter.com/marathninvestgr

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marathoninvestigation

Listen to Scott's podcast - Ten Junk Miles:

http://www.tenjunkmiles.com

Sportstats Owner Marc Roy Dec 08, 2018

On this episode we speak with Marc Roy, the owner and CEO of Sportstats. Sportstats is the largest timing company in North America.

Marc talks about technology in timing, and why it's important to wear your bib properly, and steps you can take to make sure that your bib registers as you cross the timing mats.

Sportstats uses advanced metrics to identify and remove course cutters from the final results or to adjust results for runners that drop down in distance.

We talk about cheating and the timer's obligation to make sure the results they submit are accurate.

Website: www.marathoninvestigation.com

Patreon: http://patreon.com/marathoninvestigation

Twitter: https://twitter.com/marathninvestgr

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marathoninvestigation

Listen to Scott's podcast - Ten Junk Miles:

http://www.tenjunkmiles.com

Disqualified Triathlete - Anita Carcone Dec 07, 2018

We thought we were going to speak with vilified Triathlete Anita Carcone. Instead we got Bill.

What followed was contentious from start to end.

This is a must listen, especially if you'd like to hear Derek and Scott getting cussed at for an hour.

Eventually we did get some new information and an admission.

Website: www.marathoninvestigation.com

Patreon: http://patreon.com/marathoninvestigation

Twitter: https://twitter.com/marathninvestgr

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marathoninvestigation

Listen to Scott's podcast - Ten Junk Miles:

http://www.tenjunkmiles.com/

The Two Hour Argument Dec 07, 2018

In August of 2017, Derek appeared on Scott's podcast after Scott encouraged his followers to not support Marathon Investigation.

They argued on social media and Scott dared Derek to come on The Ten Junk Miles Podcast. Derek called his bluff and they argued for two hours.

This debate is a great look into the beginning of Derek and Scott's relationship and likely a peak of what to expect in future episodes of The Marathon Investigation podcast.

Website: www.marathoninvestigation.com

Patreon: http://patreon.com/marathoninvestigation

Twitter: https://twitter.com/marathninvestgr

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marathoninvestigation

Listen to Scott's podcast - Ten Junk Miles:

http://tenjunkmiles.libsyn.com/

Introduction - Derek and Scott Dec 07, 2018

Derek is the person behind MarathonInvestigation.com. It started as whim as a personal blog, but after a Viral article and a Runner's World profile, it grew into something more.

Scott was one of Marathon Investigation's earliest critics. While Scott dislikes cheating, he dislikes the idea of shaming even more.

Derek approached Scott with the idea of co-hosting, and surprisingly Scott agreed. Scott will often act as the devil's advocate. Derek and Scott will disagree often, but the arguments are sure to be entertaining and insightful.

Website: www.marathoninvestigation.com

Patreon: http://patreon.com/marathoninvestigation

Twitter: https://twitter.com/marathninvestgr

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marathoninvestigation

Listen to Scott's podcast - Ten Junk Miles:

http://tenjunkmiles.libsyn.com/