Mamamia Out Loud

Australia’s #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It’s your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

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Other People’s Marriages & Your New 'Shobby' Oct 23, 2025

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Got a shobby? You know — a short-term hobby for even shorter attention spans that fills the void between doomscrolls. Claire Murphy's hitting the high notes at Pub Choir, Holly’s deep in her Duolingo era, and Em V’s gone old school with a shobby that's like her full-time job now.
We’re also diving headfirst into Other People’s Marriages. After the Victoria Beckham doco dropped, an internet debate exploded about whether David even likes Victoria — so naturally, we’ve got thoughts. Expect a little parasocial self-reflection along the way.
And, one host + one pet = one unexpected argument.
Plus, in reccos: a podcast to binge, something lovely for your face, and a Substack that Em swears will cheer Murphy up.

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Recommendations

Em recommends an open letter to my dog who, if i'm being completely honest, lowkey kinda sucks a Substack by Father_Karine.

Claire recommends this week's episode of True Crime Conversations on The Real Story Of Ed Gein: The Original Psycho and next week's episode all about Kathleen Folbigg.

Holly recommends the L'Oreal Paris True Match Radiant Serum Concealer and The Jennifer Anniston episode of Armchair Expert.

Plus, check out Clare Connelly's masterclass in romance writing here.

What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: The Precise Etiquette Of A 'Grudget'
Listen: Kim K's Bush & An Office Politics Dilemma
Listen: A 'Furious' King & The Rise Of The Barbie Waist
Listen: The Friends Vs Family Trap & We're All Rapunzel Now
Listen: What Did You Do Yesterday?
Listen: "A Comedian Hurt My Feelings"
Listen: Every Thought We Had About The Victoria Beckham Documentary
Listen: The Victoria Beckham Documentary Is Hard To Watch
Listen: The New High Status Boyfriend
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CREDITS:

Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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The Exact Reason The Golden Bachelor Highlights A New Class Divide Oct 22, 2025

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Holly Wainwright is deep into The Golden Bachelor, and she has one piping-hot take—but it may not be the one you're expecting. Claire Murphy and Amelia Lester are here to figure out if Hol is just secretly projecting on to a man called Bear or whether she has a point.

And friends, you're not stressed, you're in the 'October Slump'. If time is swirling into a pre-Christmas nightmare and you can practically taste the exhaustion, the good news is that it's not just you. We've got some very necessary feedback (always a gift) for this time of year and a few survival tips.

Plus, the latest celebrity daughter has officially stepped into the spotlight. Apple Martin, daughter of Hol's 'close, personal friend' Gwyneth Paltrow and Coldplay's Chris Martin, is all of a sudden everywhere. What does her arrival mean for the nepo-baby discourse, and is she selling a vagina-scented candle yet? We discuss.

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What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: Kim K's Bush & An Office Politics Dilemma
Listen: A 'Furious' King & The Rise Of The Barbie Waist
Listen: The Friends Vs Family Trap & We're All Rapunzel Now
Listen: What Did You Do Yesterday?
Listen: "A Comedian Hurt My Feelings"
Listen: Every Thought We Had About The Victoria Beckham Documentary
Listen: The Victoria Beckham Documentary Is Hard To Watch
Listen: The New High Status Boyfriend
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Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

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A Royal Vanishing Act & Does Fashion Hate Women? Oct 20, 2025

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Prince Andrew - the royal problem that just won't go away - has done just that, by giving up his royal titles. So, Amelia Lester and Claire Murphy join our royal correspondent Holly Wainwright to try understand - why now?

Plus, does high fashion actually hate women? From a dress that looks more like a cocoon, to an ensemble that includes a mask covering Kim Kardashian's entire face and a corset so tight your body actually spills out of it, it begs the question, who exactly is buying it?

And, in Gwyneth-adjacent news, a new Netflix series is letting famous people have the last word from beyond the grave. So if you could have the last word, what would you say?

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What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: The Friends Vs Family Trap & We're All Rapunzel Now
Listen: What Did You Do Yesterday?
Listen: "A Comedian Hurt My Feelings"
Listen: Every Thought We Had About The Victoria Beckham Documentary
Listen: The Victoria Beckham Documentary Is Hard To Watch
Listen: The New High Status Boyfriend
Listen: The Problem With Compliments
Listen: The Couple Who Need To Stay Away From Each Other
Listen: What Does King Charles Do With A Problem Like Prince Andrew?
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Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Amelia Lester, Claire Murphy & Holly Wainwright

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

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The Friends Vs Family Trap & We're All Rapunzel Now Oct 17, 2025

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Ever heard of 'Chatfishing’? Believe us, it's a thing, people, and may make you look at every message you receive in a whole new light. The trend is now to use ChatGPT for banter on dating apps and it’s leading to some awkward in-person dates.

The bus tour you did through Europe in your twenties has now been replaced with sunrise yoga and morning run clubs. We discuss why Gen Z is too sensible for that kind of wild fun with a bunch of strangers.

Do you treat your friends like family? And should you? There are pros and cons which we unpack.

Plus, the 'cunty bob' is out, and long hair is officially back in as we enter the Rapunzel age. But is long hair now a flex or an act of personal rebellion?

And all our best reccos including a must-listen podcast, a book Em wants you to read and a go-to 80’s beauty product that's back.
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Jessie thinks you should try the Matifying Primer by Laura Mercier OR the Glowy Primer by Go To
Holly wants you to listen to This is Why We Fight andThe Gift
Em wants you to read Very Impressive for your Ageby Eleanor Kirk
What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: What Did You Do Yesterday?
Listen: "A Comedian Hurt My Feelings"
Listen: Every Thought We Had About The Victoria Beckham Documentary
Listen: The Victoria Beckham Documentary Is Hard To Watch
Listen: The New High Status Boyfriend
Listen: The Problem With Compliments
Listen: The Couple Who Need To Stay Away From Each Other
Listen: LITTLE TREAT: Holly & Jessie Spill The Tea On Writing A Book
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Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright & Emily Vernem.
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock
Audio Producer: Leah Porges
Video Producer: Josh Green
Junior Content Producers: Coco & Tessa

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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"A Comedian Hurt My Feelings" Oct 15, 2025

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While there's an overwhelming sense of hope from the Middle East peace deal this week, we have some very complicated feelings about Donald Trump, so today, Jessie and Holly unpack them with Amelia and ask, "Can two things be true?"

A comedian really hurt Amelia’s feelings at a live show recently and we’re asking when it’s okay to take the piss out of people?

Plus - a vape, a donated kidney and a friend breakup. Selena Gomez posted a behind the scenes video of her wedding and the internet has A LOT to say about it.

And, the bush is back. Or is it? Kim Kardashian has released some new hairy undies and we have questions about the bush renaissance.

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What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: Every Thought We Had About The Victoria Beckham Documentary
Listen: The Victoria Beckham Documentary Is Hard To Watch
Listen: The New High Status Boyfriend
Listen: The Problem With Compliments
Listen: The Couple Who Need To Stay Away From Each Other
Listen: LITTLE TREAT: Holly & Jessie Spill The Tea On Writing A Book
Listen: Why No One's Having Sex In Bed Anymore
Listen: Decoding The Nicole Kidman & Keith Urban Divorce Narrative
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Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

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The Victoria Beckham Documentary Is Hard To Watch Oct 13, 2025

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Victoria Beckham’s new docu-series has landed, and while it teases bombshells, it mostly confirms what we thought we already knew. Amelia, Jessie and Holly dive into the nostalgia, the PR spin, and what we really learnt that made watching so uncomfortable..

Also, Princess Kate Middleton has published an essay underlining our worst fears, that mobile phones are bad for us. But this isn't exactly new information, so why has it ruffled our feathers so much?

Plus, comedian Julia Morris is calling for women-only seating on flights. Is it about safety, comfort—or something bigger? We open up the debate.

And in the ‘things we didn’t expect to care about’ category: why not making your bed might actually be good for you, Jessie learns dust mites are not, in fact, akin to butterflies plus, the pelvic floor tip that’s weirdly simple—and weirdly effective.

If this conversation has brought up anything for you, please reach out to The Butterfly Foundation for support.

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What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: The New High Status Boyfriend
Listen: The Problem With Compliments
Listen: The Couple Who Need To Stay Away From Each Other
Listen: LITTLE TREAT: Holly & Jessie Spill The Tea On Writing A Book
Listen: Why No One's Having Sex In Bed Anymore
Listen: Decoding The Nicole Kidman & Keith Urban Divorce Narrative
Listen to The Quicky: The Final Israeli Hostages To Return Home Today & The Most Anxious City In Australia
Listen to The Quicky: Trump Says Gaza War Is 'Over'
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Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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The New High Status Boyfriend Oct 09, 2025

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There's a new celebrity boyfriend doing the rounds and everyone from Jennifer Aniston to Princess Martha Louise of Norway (a royal rebel if ever there was one) are here to confirm that the spiritual-softboi era is officially here. Holly has a precise theory as to why.

And Jessie poses a provocative question to both Holly and Mamamia's Editor, Stacey Hicks: is anti-natalism (aka choosing not to have kids for ethical reasons) gaining traction for a reason?
Plus, we've had 'job hopping' and 'quiet quitting' but it's 'job hugging' that's the latest workplace trend — and no, it's not as cosy as it sounds. There are pros, there are cons and someone's missing out bigtime. Stacey explains.

And in recommendations:

A criminally underrated TV show that's perfect for weekend viewing
A podcast that’s anything but average
And a cult-fave hair product Jessie didn’t want to love... but does.

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Recommendations

Stacey recommends Shrinkingon Apple TV

Jessie recommends Bedroom Hair texture spray by Kevin Murphy

Holly recommends Dr Stacey Sims on the MID podcast.

What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: The Problem With Compliments
Listen: The Couple Who Need To Stay Away From Each Other
Listen: LITTLE TREAT: Holly & Jessie Spill The Tea On Writing A Book
Listen: Why No One's Having Sex In Bed Anymore
Listen: Decoding The Nicole Kidman & Keith Urban Divorce Narrative
Listen: Vanessa Amorosi, Emma Watson & The Problem When Kids Earn More Than Their Parents
Listen: Victoria Beckham’s Version & Jessie’s Very Big News
Listen: “Tough It Out”. The Announcement That Upset Us More Than We Expected

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright & Stacey Hicks.

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producers: Coco & Tessa

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The Celebrity Couple Who Need To Stay Away From Each Other Oct 08, 2025

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If we could give Jennifer Lopez one tip: not every ex needs a friendship arc. Looking at you, Ben Affleck. Some things — like red carpets and rekindled flings — are better left in the early 2000s. On today's show, Holly braces herself for this scurrilous JLo gossip. Take cover, friends.

Plus, a plot twist in the Taylor Swift PR machine no one saw coming. Jessie’s been deep in internet sleuth mode and she’s ready to explain why the Swiftie outrage might actually be legit.

And finally: WTF is klarnamaxxing? If you live by 'buy now, pay later', you need to hear Amelia deep dive into this.

What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: Taylor Swift Debrief: A Surprising Diss Track, Travis’ Wood & The Hot Takes
Listen: LITTLE TREAT: Holly & Jessie Spill The Tea On Writing A Book
Listen: Why No One's Having Sex In Bed Anymore
Listen: Decoding The Nicole Kidman & Keith Urban Divorce Narrative
Listen: Vanessa Amorosi, Emma Watson & The Problem When Kids Earn More Than Their Parents

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

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LITTLE TREAT: Holly & Jessie Spill The Tea On Writing A Book Oct 05, 2025

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Do you think one day you'd like to write a book? Well Outlouders... we've quite the little treat for your public holiday.

If you've ever had that thought (and let's be honest, who hasn't?), Holly and Jessie are about to give you the complete insider's guide. Em Vernem asks them every question you've ever had about how to write a book – and gets the unfiltered answers.

How do you turn a random idea into an actual book? What's the real process of finding a publisher? Are any of their characters based on real people?

In this episode, Holly and Jessie are sharing industry secrets, behind-the-scenes stories and even sneak peeks into their next book ideas.

Plus, Jessie shares some game-changing advice from legendary author Jane Harper that every aspiring writer needs to hear.

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What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: Why No One's Having Sex In Bed Anymore
Listen: Cool Things People Do That We Think Are Very Rock 'n' Roll
Listen: Decoding The Nicole Kidman & Keith Urban Divorce Narrative
Listen: An Emergency Meeting About Nicole & Keith
Listen: Vanessa Amorosi, Emma Watson & The Problem When Kids Earn More Than Their Parents
Listen: Victoria Beckham’s Version & Jessie’s Very Big News
Listen: “Tough It Out”. The Announcement That Upset Us More Than We Expected
Listen to Parenting Out Loud: Rihanna & A$AP Rocky's 'Love Junk' Rebrand & The TikTok Training Camp

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Watch Mamamia Out Loud:

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Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

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Why No One's Having Sex In Bed Anymore Oct 03, 2025

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Outlouders, where's the craziest place you've ever had sex? We need to talk about the rise in people having *ahem* private moments in public places. There's an interesting theory as to why which wait for it, involves the cost of living crisis. We clutch our pearls and explore.

Plus, what are the exact things men need to be doing in 2025 to be considered a gentleman? An extensive etiquette list for men has just landed — but is it common sense or controversial? Em V, Jessie and Holly sit down to discuss.

Also, do you need an 'Invisible Day' and if so, how do you get one and what are the rules?

And it's time for our reccos including some incredible books for the (long) weekend, and a podcast that has Holly all riled up.

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Recommendations

Em V recommends The-Pile On by Clare Stephens

Jessie recommends The Worst Thing I've Ever Done by Clare Stephens.

Holly recommends Mad Mabel by Sally Hepworth and Gravity Let Me Go by Trent Dalton.

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