Mamamia Out Loud

Australia’s #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It’s your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

Latest Episodes:

A Lil' Treat: Jessie’s Ready To Tell Her Twin Birth Story Mar 12, 2026

Show notes

Outlouders, your usual Friday dose of Mamamia Out Loud will drop this afternoon but for now, here's a lil' treat from us to you. Enjoy.
She’s 10 days on. She’s splitting her time and her heart between home and hospital, and she wants to share her story with you, Outlouders.

Our beloved co-host Jessie Stephens gave birth to her boy-girl twins last week, earlier than hoped, and became a mum all over again. There will be so many of you who’ll relate to this story of terror-tinged joy, who will recognise the awe and exhaustion in Jessie’s voice, and who will want to send her so much love as she and her little family find their way through a new normal.

Jessie’s rock, her twin sister Clare Stephens as well as Emily Vernem and Holly Wainwright are asking the questions:. How much time did she get “off” before the babies came? What was the first thing that happened when they did? How is Luna? How is Luca? Can she finally eat chocolate again? And how is she staying sane and hopeful? A very special episode.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media

What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: Mia, Female Friendships & The '3-Word' Rule'
Listen: A Reluctant Pregnancy Announcement On Live TV
Listen: Mia's Diary Note: What I Didn't Expect About Being A Nana
Listen: Beckham, Meghan & Jessie's Hospital Voice Note
Listen: How To Talk To Absolutely Anyone
Listen: Mia Enters The 'Working Mums' Chat
Listen: Inside The Fight That Ended Kyle & Jackie O
Listen: Love Story Part 2: Jackie O, The Kennedys & That Fight Scene
Listen: Uninvited Princesses & The Dating Story We're Yearning For
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media

Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud:

Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube

What to read:

THE END BITS:

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A Reluctant Pregnancy Announcement On Live TV Mar 11, 2026

Show notes

This morning we got a great example of a sensitive, complicated pregnancy announcement in a surprising place. Today Show host Sarah Abo and her offsider, one Karl Stefanovic, shared stories of miscarriage and fertility struggles that you just would not have heard on mainstream morning telly a few years back. So we’re unpacking the politics of public pregnancy news in 2026.

Plus, Gwyneth Paltrow is selling her stuff and we want to bid. Meghan Markle is coming to do a fancy retreat in Australia and we want to go. And Kyle Sandilands says he did nothing wrong and we want to know what’s really going on over at ARN.

And, Gen Z men are more likely to believe a wife should "obey" her husband than their fathers ever were. It’s a grim stat, but Amelia, Holly and Clare have some suggestions about how to make equal partnerships more appealing to young men, including something called “choreplay”.

Plus, the world’s most popular p*rn site has officially blocked Australia. Of course, just like the men in your life, none of us would know anything about that.

Also, we have an update on the seven Iranian soccer players granted asylum on our shores.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media

What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: Mia's Diary Note: What I Didn't Expect About Being A Nana
Listen: Beckham, Meghan & Jessie's Hospital Voice Note
Listen: How To Talk To Absolutely Anyone
Listen: Mia Enters The 'Working Mums' Chat
Listen: Inside The Fight That Ended Kyle & Jackie O
Listen: Love Story Part 2: Jackie O, The Kennedys & That Fight Scene
Listen: Uninvited Princesses & The Dating Story We're Yearning For
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media

Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud:

Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube

What to read:

THE END BITS:

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Beckham, Meghan & Jessie's Hospital Voice Note Mar 09, 2026

Show notes

The Iranian women’s team has been in Australia playing in the AFC Asian Cup and displaying extraordinary bravery in the face of significant pressure from their home country’s regime. Why have they been criticised and what might happen next?

Plus, the Kyle and Jackie O “divorce” has entered its ‘it’s complicated’ era, and Jackie is finally setting the record straight on those quitting stories. There are reports her next gig might have something to do with Meghan Markle, with the Duchess heading to Sydney for some high-profile speaking gigs which are definitely not a royal tour. But hold on, last time Meghan was here, didn’t she hate it?

In other business, Daryl Hannah is calling out the "crazy ex-girlfriend" trope in the new JFK Jr. series, Love Story, and it’s making us rethink our weekend binge-watch. And David and Victoria Beckham are posting "earnest" birthday tributes to Brooklyn, completely ignoring his legal threats to leave him blocked. Is this a sweet parental olive branch, or does someone need to confiscate Vicky’s phone?

And Timothée Chalamet might have just lost himself an Oscar and it’s Harry Styles week all over the world. It’s unlikely those things are related but you never do know.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media

What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: How To Talk To Absolutely Anyone
Listen: Mia Enters The 'Working Mums' Chat
Listen: Inside The Fight That Ended Kyle & Jackie O
Listen: Love Story Part 2: Jackie O, The Kennedys & That Fight Scene
Listen: Uninvited Princesses & The Dating Story We're Yearning For
Listen: The Next Top Model Reckoning & Jessie's Very Honest Handover
Listen: Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards
Listen: "I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit"
Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media

Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud:

Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube

What to read:

THE END BITS:

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

How To Talk To Absolutely Anyone Mar 05, 2026

Show notes

Mascara is over. Yes, it’s joined side parts as beauty cringe, according to the ghost lashes trend that Em Vernem has embraced. We’re unpacking: Are bare eyes cool or do they leave some of us looking like 'elderly babies'?

Plus, the fear of public speaking has morphed into something else: the fear of speaking in public, full stop. So why is small talk dying, and does it matter? We’re asking: Is a quick chat about the weather actually the secret to a happier life?

And, meet the internet’s new favorite literal girlboss — a 13-year-old skincare CEO who edits her COO mom’s 'cringe' captions. While Em feels like a failure by comparison, Holly Wainwright is fascinated by the 'corporatisation of kids' and brand-building curriculums. But is it smart? In an AI world, has 'building a business' become more important than actually knowing things?

In other business, Clare Stephens wants to know why the word 'matrescence' isn't in the dictionary yet?

And, of course, recommendations:

Holly recommends The Walkers podcast by Tortoise Media & The Observer — a wild investigation into the author of The Salt Path.

Emily recommends the book Half His Age by Jennette McCurdy.

Clare recommends Hometown Boys, a six-part investigative podcast from ABC’s Background Briefing.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media

What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: Mia Enters The 'Working Mums' Chat
Listen: Inside The Fight That Ended Kyle & Jackie O
Listen: Love Story Part 2: Jackie O, The Kennedys & That Fight Scene
Listen: Uninvited Princesses & The Dating Story We're Yearning For
Listen: The Next Top Model Reckoning & Jessie's Very Honest Handover
Listen: Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards
Listen: "I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit"
Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud:

Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube

What to read:

THE END BITS:

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com.au

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Emily Vernem, Clare Stephens & Holly Wainwright

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Inside The Fight That Ended Kyle & Jackie O Mar 04, 2026

Show notes

Australia’s most profitable partnership is over. Kyle and Jackie O, commercial radio’s ratings juggernaut for 25 years now, have officially imploded, apparently over an on-air clash about… astrology.

Plus, Jim Carrey is in Paris looking different and people are convinced he’s been replaced by a sophisticated clone. Which is interesting, because when female movie stars ‘look different’, we just call them sad.

And, if you’ve ever been called "too much," a Harvard psychologist wants you to know that oversharing is actually your secret career superpower. Apparently, telling your colleagues about your therapy appointments or your colonoscopy makes you 85% more likable. So, when is "painful transparency" a shortcut to intimacy, and when is it a very awkward HR meeting?

As the conflict in Iran widens, why are we seeing headlines about influencers stranded in Dubai? Among the many people stranded in the “Influencer Capital of the World”, content creators are finding themselves citizen journalists in a territory targeted by missiles.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media

What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: Love Story Part 2: Jackie O, The Kennedys & That Fight Scene
Listen to Jackie O on No Filter: Mia Interviews Jackie O About The Addiction That Almost Ended Her
Listen: Uninvited Princesses & The Dating Story We're Yearning For
Listen: The Next Top Model Reckoning & Jessie's Very Honest Handover
Listen: Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards
Listen: "I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit"
Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat
Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media

Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud:

Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube

What to read:

THE END BITS:

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Uninvited Princesses & The Dating Story We're Yearning For Mar 02, 2026

Show notes

America and Israel have launched an attack on Iran, and while the world watches the fallout of "Epic Fury," we’re looking at what comes next. Our Amelia Lester, also an editor at Foreign Policy, is here to explain why the US acted without Congress, why Australia is one of the few Western voices in support, and whether this is the kind of international meddling Donald Trump promised to avoid?

Plus, Carolyn Bessette and JFK Jnr’s Love Story has triggered a wave of nostalgia for those who lived through the 90s, and 'fauxstalgia' for those who like to imagine a world that didn't involve an endless scroll. Clare Stephens wants to know what life was like when we lived with two hands, and not with one constantly on our phones.

And, Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie have been snubbed, finding themselves uninvited from a major royal event. So are they being punished for the sins of their parents, or, Holly Wainwright wants to know, is this the beginning of William’s royal trim down?

Also, we’ve got the definitive list of songs NOT to listen to when you’re driving.

And… Bad Bunny, Harry Styles and the ridiculous joy of watching men dance.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media

What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: The Next Top Model Reckoning & Jessie's Very Honest Handover
Listen: Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards
Listen: "I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit"
Listen: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story
Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat
Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section
Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is
Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women
Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media

Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud:

Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube

What to read:

THE END BITS:

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Next Top Model Reckoning & Jessie's Very Honest Handover Feb 27, 2026

Show notes

It’s the season to blame Tyra. Netflix’s new America’s Next Top Model doco has us spiraling back to 2003. It shows us the size-zero era through a 2026 lens, when Tyra Banks was breaking barriers while also showcasing some of the show's seriously batshit behaviour —from models posing as murder victims to 'makeovers' that involved pulling teeth. Now we’re in the MAFS era Clare Stephens wants to know: is every generation’s reality TV show of choice just programmed to prompt outrage?

Also, today is Jessie’s last day before she goes off on maternity leave. But not before a chaotic handover to her twin, Clare. As Clare prepares to take the seat, she’s re-learning the 'rules' of being an Out Loud host.

In other business, does your personality need a mini-makeover of its own? We’re talking 'micro-reinvention' — not big deals like quitting your job; more small shifts like adopting a signature condiment or finally becoming a 'Pilates person'. Holly, for instance, is wearing brown. Big deal. Huge.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media

Recommendations

Clare recommends the "Brick"—a physical device that locks you out of your apps to fight phone addiction.

Jessie recommends L’Occitane Osmanthus Abricot shower gel or DedCool Taunt Hand and Body Wash for the ultimate vibe shift.

Holly recommends Eric Dane: Famous Last Words on Netflix—a raw interview with a man who has nothing left to lose.

What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: Oh Sh*t. We Let Creeps Decide Our Beauty Standards
Listen: "I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit"
Listen: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story
Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat
Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section
Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is
Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women
Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media

Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud:

Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube

What to read:

THE END BITS:

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Clare Stephens, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

"I'm A Working Mum & I Just Want To Quit" Feb 25, 2026

Show notes

Today, if you’re an Australian with even a drop of British or Irish blood, Amelia has a warning that might cost you hundreds of dollars.
And, is it okay for celebrities to ask us for money? After the deaths of millennial TV icons James Van Der Beek and Eric Dane, their families have started GoFundMe campaigns — and not everyone’s happy about it. Holly, Jessie, and Amelia have very different takes on whether it’s okay to solicit for donations when you live on a multi-million dollar ranch.

Also, the new Married At First Sight villain,Tyson has landed. Jessie thinks his quest for a 'submissive' woman and his 'manosphere' vibes reflect what women are dealing with out in the dating world. While Holly‘s pearls are clutched about the podcast he’s doubtless going to start when he leaves the show. So, ‘should’ this man be on primetime TV?

Plus, a listener dilemma we can’t stop talking about. Vanessa is overwhelmed, over-worked, and considering quitting her job because her husband’s 'big career' has left her doing 100 percent of the heavy-lifting at home. Jessie says "life is long, just quit," while Holly is asking: if every woman is making the 'choice' to scale back, is it actually a choice at all?
Plus, we deep dive into PHAARC — the probably not real (but very relatable) 'medical' condition currently ruining your work life.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media

What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: Mia & Amelia On CBK: The Clothes, The Curse, The Love Story
Listen: Prince William Has Entered The Chat
Listen: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section
Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is
Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women
Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question
Listen: All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out)
Listen: Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media

Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud:

Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube

What to read:

THE END BITS:

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Prince William Has Entered The Chat Feb 23, 2026

Show notes

Prince William is carrying on, but he’s not calm about it. He and Princess Kate are at the BAFTAs today, but people are only yelling at them about his uncle Prince Andrew's arrest. Holly Wainwright’s question is: Might ‘complicit’ King Charles take the fall for his brother, and hand his sh*t skirt to William?

Plus, "burnout feminism" is the name given to a 2020s shift that’s seeing women leaning out, quitting their jobs and embracing the pleasure of giving up. So, Jessie Stephens wants to know: After a very brief period of celebration, is female ambition just a bit cringe now?

And the viral clip of Channel 9 reporter Danika Mason a lil’ bit drunk on-air at the Winter Games is only a fragment of the story. Was a full apology necessary to save a career, or is being "proper Danika’d" just the most relatable thing to happen on TV this year?

Oh, and in other business, bar soap is apparently dying and Amelia Lester is not happy about it.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media

What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section
Listen: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is
Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women
Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question
Listen: All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out)
Listen: Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy
Listen: "Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess"
Listen: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media

Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud:

Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube

What to read:

THE END BITS:

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The New Dating Rule That Blew Up A Comments Section Feb 20, 2026

Show notes

It’s Friday, and it’s a news-free zone. Breathe out, friends, and let’s kick off with a splash of skincare nepotism — Gwyneth Paltrow’s daughter Apple is sharing how Mum asked all her “Goopy” friends to help fix her teenage acne and honestly, haven’t we all?

Also, iconic magazine editor Anna Wintour just sat down with her successor, Vogue Content Director Chloe Malle, and served up a deeply awkward masterclass in 'Boomer vs. Millennial' work ethic clash. So, who wants to pay everyone 30 per cent more?

Is it ever okay to mention your food intolerance on a first date? What about your ex? What about your mother? And who the hell does pay, in 2026? The New York Times has dropped a new set of 'Dating Rules'. Some are genius, some are unhinged, and yes, we have thoughts.

And finally, we tackle a domestic mystery as old as time: Are you a box-flattener or are you... normal?

Plus, recommendations. Jessie Stephens has a very helpful robot for you. Clare Stephens wants to help you unlock creativity (it's a new year, fire horses) and Holly Wainwright wants to show you her new pants.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media

Recommendations

Clare recommends The Writer's Studio which offerscourses for aspiring writers.

Holly recommends the jersey barrel leg pants from Uniqlo

In a turn of events, Jessie is recommending Chat GPT (we're shocked too) for anybody who needs some design help when moving house.

What To Listen To Next:

EMERGENCY MEETING: 'Prince' Andrew's Arrest Is Not What You Think It Is
Listen: Angelina Jolie & The Existential Threat Of Desirable Older Women
Listen: MAFS & The Specific Cruelty of the ‘Sexual Chemistry’ Question
Listen: All The Gossip From The Wuthering Heights Premiere (And Why Mia Walked Out)
Listen: Wuthering Heights & the ‘Bad Man’ Controversy
Listen: "Uh-Oh, I'm A Finger Princess"
Listen: Jessie and Clare Stephens' Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder
Listen: An Affair Confession Live On Air
Listen: The Best (And Worst) Generations Of Parents. A Leaderboard!
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media

Watch Australia's #1 podcast, Mamamia Out Loud:

Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube

What to read:

THE END BITS:

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Clare Stephens, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright