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    Health & Fitness

    Maintenance Phase – Aubrey Gordon & Michael Hobbes

    Debunking the junk science behind health fads, wellness scams and nonsensical nutrition advice.

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    Copyright: © 2021 Maintenance Phase

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    Oprah Winfrey & The “Wagon of Fat” Jun 08, 2021

    Do you have weird feelings about Oprah? So do we, and so does our guest! Kimberly Springer, co-editor of "Stories of Oprah: The Oprahfication of American Culture," joins us to talk about the rise of Oprah Winfrey and her infamous "wagon of fat" weight loss episode.

    Buy Kimberly's books:

    • Stories of Oprah: The Oprahfication of American Culture
    • Living for the Revolution: Black Feminist Organizations, 1968-1980

    Support us:

    • Subscribe on Patreon
    • Donate on PayPal
    • Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more

    Clips!

    • Oprah Winfrey Rolls Out A Wagon Of Fat (Buzzfeed)
    • How Oprah's Weight Affected Her Relationship with Stedman (Oprah)
    • MadTv - Oprah - Fat Cam (Mad TV)

    Links!

    • The Importance of Being Oprah (New York Times Magazine)
    • Oprah's 'Fattest' Mistake (CBS News)
    • 5 awesome objects from the new Oprah exhibit (Washington Post)
    • Oprah's biggest on-air mistake? The wagon of fat (Today)
    • Diet That Made Oprah Winfrey Slim Demands Discipline, Specialists Say (New York Times)

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase)

    Celery Juice May 25, 2021

    Do you have viruses? Cysts? Cancer? Are you tired sometimes? According to Instagram, the problem might be a lack of liquefied vegetables! This week, Mike and Aubrey take on a troubling taste test, meet a ghost with bad intentions and encounter the longest list of problematic celebrities we've ever seen.
    Plus, we start the show with an announcement: We're doing Patreon-only bonus episodes! Sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase
    Support us:

    • Subscribe on Patreon
    • Donate on PayPal
    • Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more

    Links!

    • Anthony William on Extra
    • Anthony William on Keeping Up with the Kardashians
    • Celery Juice Is the Perfect, Probably Pointless Trend for 2019 (Vanity Fair)
    • Food Isn't Medicine. Here's Why It's Dangerous to Believe It Is. (Huffington Post)
    • Is celery juice a viable alternative to nitrites in cured meats? (McGill University)
    • Is Celery Juice a Sham? (The New York Times)
    • Today's Diet Fads (Today's Dietitian)
    • People think celery juice can protect you from COVID-19. Here's why that's categorically false. (Mama Mia)

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase)

    The Wellness to QAnon Pipeline May 11, 2021

    Special guest Mike Rothschild tells us how the road to wellness can be an on-ramp to a conspiracy theory. Along the way we debunk oil pulling, explore Instagram aesthetics and bemoan anti-vaxx argumentation tactics . Mike gets the date of the January 6th insurrection wrong and he is sorry.
    Mike Rothschild is on Twitter and you can pre-order his book here!
    Support us:

    • Subscribe on Patreon
    • Donate on PayPal
    • Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more

    Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!


    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase)

    Diet Book Deep Dive: Ed McMahon’s “Slimming Down” Apr 27, 2021

    This week is our first Diet Book Deep Dive, where we dig into some of the worst and wildest weight loss advice we can find. First up: Tonight Show sidekick Ed McMahon's pun, alcohol and misogyny-fueled diet plan from the 1970s. Hope you like broiled steak and Sanka!

    Clips!

    • Ed McMahon & Britney Spears on Star Search
    • Ed McMahon for American Family Sweepstakes

    Support us:

    • Subscribe on Patreon
    • Donate on PayPal
    • Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more


    Thanks to Lynn Barbera for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase)

    Olestra Apr 13, 2021

    In 1996, Proctor & Gamble launched an artificial fat substitute that promised all of the taste but none of the calories. There was just one problem.
    Support us:

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    Links!

    • Marion Nestle’s The Selling of Olestra
    • Jeffrey Steingarten's The Man Who Ate Everything
    • The 1996 Federal Register
    • The Trouble With Fries
    • Reduction of the body burden of PCBs and DDE by dietary intervention in a randomized trial
    • Review of the effects of dilution of dietary energy with olestra on energy intake
    • Authors’ Financial Relationships With the Food and Beverage Industry and Their Published Positions on the Fat Substitute Olestra
    • Postmarketing Surveillance of New Food Ingredients: Results from the Program with the Fat Replacer Olestra
    • Effects of wheat bran and olestra on objective measures of stool and subjective reports of GI symptoms
    • The effect of ingesting olestra-based foods on feeding behavior and energy balance in humans
    • Effect on Body Weight of Replacing Dietary Fat with Olestra for Two or Ten Weeks in Healthy Men and Women


    Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase)

    Eating Disorders Mar 30, 2021

    Fat people have them too! This week, special guest Erin Harrop tells us about one of America's most under-diagnosed and misunderstood problems. Along the way we talk about elbow bumps, Twitter etiquette and '90s sweatpants. Our content warnings are becoming increasingly threatening.
    Here's Erin's faculty page and a bunch of her research!
    Support us:

    • Subscribe on Patreon
    • Donate on PayPal
    • Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more


    Thanks to Mitra Kaboli for production support and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase)

    Weight Watchers Mar 16, 2021

    Get your flex point calculators and food scales! This week, Mike and Aubrey are talking about one of America's most iconic diet programs: Weight Watchers. Along the way, we encounter The Rock, the mating habits of straight people and a new James Bond villain.
    Support us:

    • Subscribe on Patreon
    • Donate on PayPal
    • Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more

    Links!

    • Jean Nidetch, a Founder of Weight Watchers, Dies at 91
    • Mass Firing on Zoom Is Latest Sign of Weight Watchers Unrest
    • Weight Watcher's Kurbo app slammed for targeting kids. Makers defend it
    • What's gone wrong at Weight Watchers?
    • Weight Watchers Is Offering Teens Free Memberships and People Aren't Happy
    • Americans’ new way of losing weight has left Weight Watchers behind
    • How the Oprah effect helped Weight Watchers regain Americans' trust
    • Deal Master Debbane
    • The Population Cost‐Effectiveness of Weight Watchers with General Practitioner Referral Compared with Standard Care
    • Weight Watchers on prescription: An observational study of weight change among adults referred to Weight Watchers by the NHS
    • The Problem With 'Fat Talk'
    • 'Fat Talk' Compels but Carries a Cost

    Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase)

    The Master Cleanse Mar 02, 2021

    Are your moods too stable? Is your face free of cold sores? Get your lemon juice, maple syrup and cayenne pepper ready, because this week we're talking about celebrity favorite THE MASTER CLEANSE!
    Along the way we roast New Atheism, praise Gwyneth Paltrow (!) and endorse garbanzo bean salads. Mike wishes to clarify that he adores Kate Bush and quips with the utmost affection.

    Support us:

    • Subscribe on Patreon
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    • Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more

    Links!:

    • The Master Cleanser by Stanley Burroughs
    • I Heard It Through the Diet Grapevine (New York Times)
    • Improving Ourselves to Death (The New Yorker)
    • Cleansing's Dirty Secret (Marie Claire)
    • Mr. Clean: Jeffrey Steingarten Puts the Master Cleanse to the Test (Vogue)
    • The Dubious Practice of Detox (Harvard Health)


    Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase)

    Dr. Oz Feb 16, 2021

    This week we're dissecting "America's Doctor." How did a smart, hardworking surgeon become one of TV's leading purveyors of junk science? Along the way we debunk green coffee bean extract, raspberry ketones, conversion therapy (!) and a salad dressing skincare regimen.
    Support us:

    • Subscribe on Patreon
    • Donate on PayPal
    • Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more


    Links:

    • Transcript of the infamous Congressional hearing
    • The Making of Dr. Oz
    • Columbia and the Problem of Dr. Oz
    • The FTC lawsuit against green coffee bean extract sellers
    • The Oz craze: The effect of pop culture media on health care
    • The BMJ content analysis of the Dr. Oz show
    • Ageing, fitness and neurocognitive function
    • Real-world doctors fact-check Dr. Oz, and the results aren't pretty
    • Dr. Oz may be America's most influential — and controversial — physician

    Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase)

    Snake Oil Feb 02, 2021

    The world of dieting and wellness is full of so-called snake oil salesmen—but what IS snake oil? This week, we take a wild ride through the history of health scams and discover a startling twist about an everyday idiom. Along the way, Aubrey delivers fun facts about sanitation from memory and Mike roasts the state where most of his family lives.
    Support us:

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    • Donate on PayPal
    • Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more


    Links:

    • Snake Oil, Hustlers & Hambones by Mary Anderson
    • A History Of 'Snake Oil Salesmen' : Code Switch (NPR)
    • How Snake Oil Got a Bad Rap (Hint: It Wasn’t The Snakes’ Fault) (Collectors Weekly)

    Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase)

    The Biggest Loser Jan 19, 2021

    This week we dissect the content and impact of one of America's most harmful TV experiments.
    Support us:

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    • Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more

    Links!

    • Aubrey’s article on The Biggest Loser
    • That's not reality for me': Australian audiences respond to the Biggest Loser
    • "Cheapening the struggle:" obese people's attitudes towards the Biggest Loser
    • The Effects of Reality Television on Weight Bias: An Examination of The Biggest Loser
    • 'It's a miracle no one has died yet': The Biggest Loser returns, despite critics' warnings
    • The Retrograde Shame of The Biggest Loser
    • Analysis of all contestants
    • Neoliberalism And The Realities Of Reality Television
    • The “Reality” of Health: Reality Television and the Public Health
    • Life after NBC's "The Biggest Loser": The Experiences and Perspectives of Former Reality TV Contestants

    Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase)

    Halo Top Ice Cream Jan 05, 2021

    WE’RE BACK! A new diet ice cream is taking your grocery store by storm. But what even is it? This week, Mike and Aubrey talk biohacking, dieting for straight dudes and the extremely ill-advised "Halo Top diet."

    Support us:

    • Subscribe on Patreon
    • Donate on PayPal
    • Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more

    Links!

    • What is biohacking? The new “science” of optimizing your brain and body. (Vox)
    • Halo Top Is Now the Most Popular Pint of Ice Cream in America (Food and Wine)
    • What It's Like to Eat Nothing but This Magical, Healthy Ice Cream for 10 Days (GQ)
    • Is Halo Top Good For You? The Truth About Low-Calorie, Low-Fat Ice Creams (HuffPost)
    • Seven in 10 young people would eat whole tub of low-cal ice cream (The Grocer UK)

    Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase)

    Anti-Fat Bias Nov 24, 2020

    To celebrate the release of her new book, Aubrey takes Mike on a tour through the statistics and debates surrounding weight bias. Anyone interested in body positivity, airline seats, 'skinny shaming' or the sugar content of melons is legally obligated to join us.

    Support us:

    • Subscribe on Patreon
    • Donate on PayPal
    • Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more

    Get Aubrey's book in the U.S.:

    • Powell's Books
    • Bookshop.org
    • Beacon Press
    • Buy from your local bookstore on Indiebound

    Get Aubrey's book outside the U.S.


    Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase)

    The Twinkie Defense Nov 17, 2020

    The Twinkie Defense has become a shorthand for disingenuous legal defense strategies. But was it disingenuous? (Yes, but not in the way you think!)
    Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

    Support us:

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    • Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more

    Links!

    • Mike's "Victim's Rights" episode on his other show!
    • The Trial of Dan White: The Diminished Capacity ("Twinkie") Defense
    • Harvey Milk: His Lives and Death
    • The Myth of the Twinkie Defense: The Verdict in the Dan White Case Wasn’t Based on His Ingestion of Junk Food
    • Psychiatric Testimony and the Insanity Defense
    • California’s Proposition 8 (1982)

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase)

    Moon Juice Nov 10, 2020

    What's that Gwyneth Paltrow's drinking? It's MOON JUICE! This week, we're talking adaptogens, brain dust, hot sex milk and the wellness company that's taken L.A. by storm. Be sure to take your quinton shots before you listen to this one.

    Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

    Support us:

    • Subscribe on Patreon
    • Donate on PayPal
    • Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more

    Links!:

    • How Hollywood's Favorite Juice Bar Owner Eats Every Day (Elle)
    • How Amanda Chantal Bacon Perfected the Celebrity Wellness Business (NYT)
    • What Are Adaptogens? (NYT)
    • Wellness Brand Moon Juice Has Plenty of Haters - And Its Founder is Cool With That (Entrepreneur)
    • The Moon Juice Gospel of Self (The New Yorker)
    • How Wellness Got Whitewashed (Glamour)

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase)

    Snackwell's Cookies Nov 03, 2020

    They hit the market in 1992. Three years later, they were the best-selling cookie in America. This week, Mike and Aubrey dive into the low-fat craze of the 1990s and sample the snack that became the symbol of its rise and fall.
    Support us:

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    Links!

    • How the Ideology of Low Fat Conquered America
    • “Eat More, They’re Healthy”
    • Anthology of “Cookie Man” ads
    • “What if It’s All Been A Big Fat Lie?”
    • “Ending the War on Fat”



    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase)

    Fen Phen & Redux Oct 27, 2020

    Fen-Phen & Redux were "the next miracle drugs" in the '90s, claiming to help people lose dramatic amounts of weight in just three months. But within a few short years, they'd been pulled from the market. They were just too effective! (Just kidding, they killed some people.)
    Support us:

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    Links!

    • Dispensing with the Truth by Alicia Mundy
    • The New Miracle Drug (Time Magazine)
    • How Fen-Phen, A Diet 'Miracle,' Rose and Fell (the New York Times)
    • Blowing the Whistle on Fen-Phen (Journal of Business Communication)
    • Purdue OxyContin settlement would rank among largest in pharma history (Reuters)
    • National Trends in Antiobesity Medication Use (JAMA Network)
    • The Fen-Phen Finale: A Study of Weight Loss and Valvular Heart Disease (Obesity Research)

    Thanks to Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase)

    The President's Physical Fitness Test Oct 20, 2020

    The shuttle run! The flexed arm hang! The v-sit reach! These terms are seared into the memories of an entire generation of American schoolchildren. But did the President's Physical Fitness Test actually make us fitter? (Spoiler: lol no)
    Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!
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    Links!

    • The Report That Shocked The President
    • JFK’s Sports Illustrated article, “The Soft American”
    • 1958–2008: 50 Years of Youth Fitness Tests in the United States
    • The President's Council on Physical Fitness and the Systematisation of Children's Play in America
    • Why is there so little critical physical education scholarship in the United States? The case of Fitnessgram
    • The Modern Era: Blossoming of the Olympic Movement and the Conquest of Acute Disease
    • The President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports: The First 50 Years
    • Do Fitness Test Performances Predict Students’ Attitudes And Emotions Toward Physical Education?

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase)

    What's Our Deal? Oct 11, 2020

    Welcome to Maintenance Phase! In our first episode, we tell our origin stories and talk about some of the basic ideas behind the show.
    Here's where to find us:
    Aubrey: https://www.yourfatfriend.com/
    Mike: https://rottenindenmark.org/
    Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song!
    Support us:

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    • Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more

    Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase)

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