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Be a Hope: Singing, Community, and Courage in Leadership | Benjamin Mertz Nov 03, 2026

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What parts of ourselves did we quietly leave behind when we learned how to be professional?

For some of us, it was singing. For others, creativity, play, vulnerability, or the willingness to connect with someone whose worldview looks nothing like our own. Somewhere along the way, being human can become something we carefully manage rather than something we fully inhabit.

Amy and Benjamin Mertz explore what happens when we bring those parts of ourselves back into the room. Drawing from the Black spiritual and civil rights music traditions, Benjamin describes how communal singing can dissolve defenses and reconnect people to joy, courage, and one another.

Their conversation expands into dialogue across differences, the importance of community when we feel stuck, making “good trouble” at work, and what it means to protect our humanity as AI becomes more present in our lives.

Hope, Benjamin suggests, does not have to be something we wait to feel. It can become something we practice through service, creativity, connection, and the way we treat the people around us.

Perhaps staying human is not something we accomplish alone. It is something we keep reminding one another how to do.

Moments That Create Momentum:

We Were Made to Create – Explore why singing, dancing, and making art still matter even when no one is performing, competing, or trying to be the best.
Freedom Is Not Individual – Discover how community can help us remember who we are when our own thinking has left us feeling stuck.
Disagreement Is Not Danger – Hear how to stay expansive and hold space for our differences.
Good Trouble Builds Resilience – See why speaking up in small ways can strengthen a team before a much larger storm arrives.
Be a Hope – Recognize how hope becomes more tangible when we practice it through service, connection, creativity, and integrity.

About the Guest:

BenjaSoul is a composer, pianist and song leader who has led music of the Black Spiritual tradition for 20 years. He leads music at benefit concerts, protest actions, sacred services, and Black History workshops. He is currently the board chair of the Interfaith Movement for Human Integrity, an immigrant rights and anti-incarceration nonprofit organization. He has worked in the Civil Rights space his entire life.

Benja is also a certified executive coach through the Berkeley Executive Coaching Institute. He helped develop BEC's inclusive leadership programs and teaches Leadership presence with Dr. Mark Rittenberg's team at the Haas School of Business. He has facilitated leadership workshops across many industries, including healthcare, education, and tech. He is currently pursuing a Master's in History, focusing his thesis on the history of the Civil Rights movement.

When not teaching, performing, or causing good trouble, Benja is at home being the proud father of Isaiah, Sammy, and baby Amarachi.

https://benjaminmertz.com

https://benjasoul.com

Interfaith Movement for Human Integrity: htpps://im4humanintegrity.org

About Amy:

Amy Lynn Durham, known by her clients as the Corporate Mystic, is the founder of the Executive Coaching Firm, Create Magic At Work®, where they help leaders build workplaces rooted in creativity, collaboration, and fulfillment. A former corporate executive turned Executive Coach, Amy blends practical leadership strategies with spiritual intelligence to unlock human potential at work.

She’s a certified Executive Coach through UC Berkeley & the International Coaching Federation (ICF) In addition, Amy holds coaching certifications in Spiritual Intelligence (SQ21), the Edgewalker Profile, and the Archetypes of Change . In addition to being the host of the Create Magic At Work® podcast, Amy is the author of Create Magic At Work®, Creating Career Magic: A Daily Prompt Journal and the founder of Magic Thread Media™. Through her work, she inspires intentional leadership for thriving workplaces and lives where “magic” becomes reality.

Connect with Amy:

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07: When Being Needed Becomes Part of Your Worth Nov 03, 2026

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What if intimacy is not about always being close, but about knowing how to stay connected to yourself while moving toward and away from the person you love?

Kristien has been sitting with the realization that some of what she calls caring may actually be caretaking. As Dr. Pavini helps her slow down and notice what happens in her body when she feels needed, Kristien begins to recognize the tension, urgency, and sense of worth that can accompany her impulse to rescue.

Then Dr. Pavini changes the conditions. What happens when helping Stijn means giving up something Kristien deeply wants for herself? The difference becomes easier to feel. Caring leaves room for both people. Caretaking asks Kristien to disappear.

Meanwhile, Stijn continues looking at his relationship with alcohol, the fear of sleeplessness that has followed him since adolescence, and the relationship he wants to build with his son. He also begins practicing something much less familiar: noticing his own body and internal experience.

By the end of the session, Kristien and Stijn are invited into a new kind of intimacy, one where closeness is not the only sign that the relationship is safe. They begin experimenting with distance, connection, and the possibility that two people can remain deeply connected without losing themselves.

What Begins to Surface

The physical difference between caring and caretaking
Why being needed can feel so powerful
What self-abandonment feels like before we recognize it
Learning to tolerate separateness without assuming the relationship is in danger
Building intimacy while staying connected to yourself

This podcast focuses on relationship dynamics and is not intended to provide addiction treatment. If you or someone you love is struggling from the impact of untreated substance abuse, please seek support from qualified professionals who specialize in addiction.

If something major in your relationship needs to shift, Book a Free Clarity Call with Dr. Pavini at https://pavini.as.me/ to find out what's possible. On our call, we'll get clear on:

What's actually happening right now
What you're longing for instead
Whether working together is the right fit
One or two things you can start doing differently right now

You'll leave with clarity and a concrete next step.

Interested in being considered for a future season of Salty Sweet? Visit https://pavinimoray.com to connect with Dr. Pavini.

About the Host:

Dr. Pavini Moray is a somatic coach and Relational Life Therapy practitioner with a PhD in Somatic Psychology. For more than 15 years, Pavini has worked with couples navigating relationship crisis, intimacy challenges, rupture, and repair. Their approach blends Relational Life Therapy, somatic work, and trauma-informed care to help couples understand the deeper patterns shaping how they connect, communicate, and love.

https://www.pavinimoray.com/

Musical Attribution: Original podcast music composed by Luke Djordjevic

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PaGaian Cosmology: The Promise of Life with Glenys Livingstone Nov 02, 2026

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What if birth, death, desire, decay, creativity, darkness, and renewal aren't separate events, but all part of one enormous, ongoing conversation between us and the cosmos?

What if we've become so disconnected from the rhythms of the natural world that we've forgotten something our ancestors understood instinctively: We belong to something larger than ourselves?

And…what if nature isn't something we're part of—but what we are?

Today we are #LiveInTheHive with Glenys Livingstone, Ph.D., an Australian author, scholar, ceremonialist, and creator of PaGaian Cosmology, an earth-based spiritual practice that brings together several wisdoms:

Goddess/female imagery for the Sacred
Pagan and pre-Christian seasonal traditions
contemporary cosmology and evolutionary science
ecology and our relationship to place
feminism
ritual, poetry, embodiment and ceremony
the idea of Earth—and ultimately the cosmos—as a creative, living process.

I LOVED this conversation. Glenys is magical…full of wisdom, laughter, curiosity and powerful insights. I learned so much and could have talked with her for hours. We WILL have her back on the show.

Some key moments:

Medusa – her children’s book, My Name is Medusa, published by Girl God Books (www.thegirlgod.com) that led to the creation of an anthology on Medusa.
Glenys shares her journey from being a zealous Christian, to her study of theology and to her ultimate embrace of and movement towards Feminine Wisdom and Gaia Spirituality.
What is POIESIS?
What is PAGAIAN? And what prompted the creation of it?
Her exploration of language and poetry and its role in creating the cosmos.
Resource: Brian Swimme - and his influence on her PhD work.
How her understanding of The Crone has evolved.
Her discovery of and relationship with ritual and ceremony.
The revaluing of the dark aspects of life, and for listeners, this arrives just in time for the womb-ing time in the Northern Hemisphere.
All this and SO much more.

About Glenys Livingstone

Glenys Livingstone Ph.D. has been on a Goddess path since 1979. She is the author of PaGaian Cosmology: Re-inventing Earth-based Goddess Religion, which fuses the indigenous traditions of Old Europe with scientific theory, feminism, and a poetic relationship with place. This book was an outcome of her doctoral work in Social Ecology. She was born and lives in country Australia, where she has facilitated Seasonal ceremony for decades, taught classes, and mentored apprentices. Her new book A Poiesis of the Creative Cosmos: Celebrating Her within PaGaian Sacred Ceremony documents the synthesis of her work over the past decades. She teaches a year-long on-line course "Celebrating Goddess and Cosmogenesis in the Wheel of the Year" for both hemispheres.

https://pagaian.org/

https://www.youtube.com/@pagaian

https://www.facebook.com/glenys.livingstone

About Sandra Bargman

I help people find and express a more truthful presence through voice, storytelling, and deep listening.

My work draws on decades as a professinal actor, singer, director, coach, and as a spiritual counselor, bringing together vocal technique with emotional intelligence, mindfulness, breath and body awareness, and the transformative power of story.

My signature B.I.G. Approach explores Breath and Body, Intention, and Genuineness—because powerful communication isn't simply about what we say. It's about how fully we inhabit ourselves when we say it.

Whether I'm working one-on one or with a group, my goal is not to teach people how to sound like someone else.

It's to help them hear themselves more clearly—and have the courage to let that voice be heard.

www.SandraBargman.com

https://www.youtube.com/@sandraamazon

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Tiny Treasures: What Judgement is Protecting Oct 29, 2026

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What separates judgment from discernment? And why does that distinction matter?

In this Tiny Treasure, Cari explores the difference between judging from fear and discerning from awareness. While judgment often closes us off through certainty, discernment creates space for curiosity, compassion, healthy boundaries, and conscious choice.

Through personal reflections on comparison and the ways we protect ourselves, Cari invites us to examine our judgments with greater curiosity.

What might change if we stopped defining people by our conclusions about them and instead became more interested in what’s happening within ourselves?

Maybe real freedom isn’t in learning to judge less, but in learning to see more clearly.

About Cari:

Cari Jacobs-Crovetto is an executive and leadership coach and the founder of Brave Directions, where she works with senior leaders and C-suite executives to strengthen interpersonal and team relationships, navigate conflict skillfully, and deepen self-awareness, influence, and confidence.

Before becoming a coach, Cari spent three decades in marketing and product leadership roles across Fortune 100 companies, media networks, consulting firms, and venture-backed startups. In 2019, she was named one of Forbes’ Top 50 Chief Marketing Officers.

Cari brings together decades of operating experience with more than 45 years of Buddhist meditation study and practice, integrating deep inner work with practical leadership development.

She facilitates the renowned Interpersonal Dynamics (“Touchy Feely”) course at Stanford Graduate School of Business where she also coaches grad school students, leads meditation classes and leadership workshops, and hosts the podcast Finding Treasures in the Trash.

Her mantra: Fierce Heart — where compassion meets bold, badass leadership.

https://www.bravedirections.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/carisf/

https://www.instagram.com/cari_bravedirections/

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The Spark Sessions: My Friends Don’t Care About My Creative Work - The Six Relationships Your Creativity Actually Needs Oct 29, 2026

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When it comes to creativity, wonderful friends and a bustling social life aren’t enough. We need the six relationships most important for creative health.

In her fifteen years of creativity coaching, Rachel Efron identified six creativity relationships: allies, mentors, role models, mentees, collaborators, and nature/spirit. If you have a couple of these, your creativity will thank you. If you have many of them, you’ll feel a synergy between your creatiivty and the world around you. If you have all six of them, god help this world handle everything you’re about to create!

Rachel explains the six relationships with personal anecdotes: her first experiences with each one of the relationships. Hear about her verbose first mentor. Hear about her shoddy piano teaching practice. Hear about her realization that she and the Pacific Ocean are both sparkly and salty. And discover the amazing power of each of the creativity relationships in your life.

A creative ally is a fellow traveler on the creative road. A mentor guides with the wisdom of experience. A role model gives you a map to your becoming.. Mentees remind us of how much we have to offer. Collaborators locate new aspects of our creative voices, and spirit/nature teaches us that when we create, we belong to the world around us.

The deeper invitation is not to surround ourselves with more people. It is to notice what our creativity needs relationally. Because sometimes the missing resource is not another idea, more discipline, or greater confidence. Sometimes it’s learning how to involve others in our creative process.

Sparks of Insight

Creative connection has very little to do with popularity or social skill. What matters is whether the relationships in your life actually support your creativity.
Six different relationships nourish six different dimensions of creative health: allies, mentors, role models, mentees, collaborators, and nature or spirit.
Rachel’s first creative ally showed her what happens when two people become enchanted by each other’s creative process.
Mentees may be one of the most overlooked creative resources. Serving someone is a straight line to our self-worth.
It’s a beautiful thing to let the people in our lives be exactly who they are to us… to let our friends be friends and our parents be parents, and to seek creative connection in the six relationships where we know it will be.

Ready to reveal your creative Spark?

Download the Muzi app at http://itunes.apple.com/app/id6739667782 to take the Creativity Assessment, and uncover your Spark profile. Then email your Spark to Rachel at rachel@rachelefron.com for a chance at a Spark Reading, where Rachel will offer personalized insight into what your creativity most needs from you right now.

About Rachel:

Rachel Efron is an Oakland-based songwriter, producer, and creativity coach. She's released four full-length albums of original songs, plus written for such legends as Narada Michael Walden and Journey. Rachel is a premier songwriting coach for songwriters across the world, and has over fifteen years experience helping artists, leaders, and teams find their voice.

In 2022, Rachel turned her methods into a comprehensive framework and groundbreaking app, Muzi, to help everyone —artists and non-artists alike—access greater creativity in their lives.

email: rachel@rachelefron.com

website: https://www.rachelefron.com/creativity

Download the Muzi app at http://itunes.apple.com/app/id6739667782

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A Breaker of Chains | 013 Oct 28, 2026

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What do we do with the stories, wounds, strengths, and unfinished work that arrive in our lives before we ever have a chance to choose them? In this deeply personal exploration of generational inheritance, Aaron reflects on the long arcs that move through families, carrying patterns of pain, resilience, memory, love, silence, and survival from one generation to the next. Through the story of his father, his own experience of fatherhood, and the final days they spent together, he considers what it means to become a conscious steward of what we have received. The conversation does not ask us to reject our origins or take responsibility for healing everything that came before us. Instead, it invites us to notice where repetition might become interruption, where silence might become truthful speech, and where witnessing itself may be enough. Somewhere between ancestor and descendant, each of us is adding another link to a chain, with the quiet possibility of deciding what deserves to continue and what might finally be allowed to end.

Invitations to Consider:

We inherit more than trauma. Aaron considers how generations pass forward wounds and unfinished work, but also humor, courage, recipes, skills, tenderness, resilience, and the ordinary practices that help families continue.
From repetition to interruption. Becoming aware of an inherited pattern creates the possibility of asking what needs to change before it moves into another generation.
The responsibility is stewardship, not perfection. Aaron challenges the idea that becoming aware of generational pain means we must single-handedly repair everything that happened before us.
Witnessing can itself be healing. Sometimes breaking a pattern begins not with fixing or confronting it, but with becoming willing to see and name what has gone unwitnessed.
A father and son story comes full circle. Aaron reflects on caring for his father at the end of his life and unexpectedly becoming able to offer him some of the tenderness and protection his father had longed for as a child.

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About Aaron:

Aaron Tabacco, PhD, has spent more than thirty years guiding people through growth and change, often in complex and high-stakes environments. He currently serves as the Director of Staff Experience at a major academic health sciences university. With a background spanning nursing, neuroscience, education, coaching, and mediation, his work centers on helping individuals and organizations navigate identity, connection, and transformation with greater clarity and care.

Known for his grounded presence and compassionate communication, Aaron works with students, clinicians, faculty, executives, and senior leaders across healthcare and other industries. His approach integrates relational depth, reflective practice, and a commitment to creating more humane, integrated ways of working and living. He works in San Francisco, California, and lives in Vancouver, Washington, where he continues a lifelong engagement with writing, music, and the landscapes of the Pacific Northwest alongside his husband and three adult sons.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaron-tabacco-phd-83359b9/

https://lucusgroup.com/home

https://substack.com/@aarontabacco?r=b5ap9&utm_medium=ios

https://www.youtube.com/@CirclesEdges

Email: aaron@circlesedges.org

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06: The Part of You You Learned to Hate Oct 27, 2026

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What happens when the voice you use against yourself sounds a lot like the parent who once hurt you?

Stijn returns to the teenage version of himself he would rather leave behind. At first, all he can feel toward that boy is contempt. But as Dr. Pavini asks him to look again, something else begins to emerge: courage, grit, determination, and a young goalkeeper who was competing at a remarkable level while receiving zero recognition at home.

A forgotten piece of Stijn’s story comes back into view, including the father who dismissed him, the parents who never knew what he had achieved, and the harshness Stijn still directs toward himself decades later. Dr. Pavini challenges him to interrupt that legacy, not only for his son, but for himself.

The conversation then widens to the relationship. Dr. Pavini names the pattern she sees between Kristien and Stijn: Kristien sacrifices, pursues, reassures, and tries to rescue. Stijn retreats, becomes emotionally unavailable, and uses alcohol as distance. Between them sits a third party that keeps much of their attention away from the vulnerability underneath.

If they want something different, both will have to come back to their own side of the relationship and take responsibility for the work that belongs to them.

What Begins to Surface

The contempt we can inherit and turn against ourselves
Rediscovering strength in the parts of ourselves we rejected
How childhood invisibility can shape adult intimacy
The pursuer and withdrawer pattern taking shape between Kristien and Stijn
What happens when a third thing carries the vulnerability a couple avoids

If something major in your relationship needs to shift, Book a Free Clarity Call with Dr. Pavini at https://pavini.as.me/ to find out what's possible. On our call, we'll get clear on:

What's actually happening right now
What you're longing for instead
Whether working together is the right fit
One or two things you can start doing differently right now

You'll leave with clarity and a concrete next step.

Interested in being considered for a future season of Salty Sweet? Visit https://pavinimoray.com to connect with Dr. Pavini.

About the Host:

https://www.pavinimoray.com/

Musical Attribution: Original podcast music composed by Luke Djordjevic

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Rest (A Moment of Reflection) Oct 27, 2026

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Today’s reflection explores what changes when we give ourselves permission to stop pushing and make room for rest. By considering what rest truly means for us, we can begin to recognize where greater ease and flow may be needed.

Start your own journey of reflection, creativity, and intentional growth with the Create Magic at Work Journal or bring the wisdom of the Edgewalker mindset into your daily life with your own copy of the Edgewalker Card Deck. You can find both at https://magicthreadmedia.com/experience

The Art of Influence with Trial Lawyer Jennifer Gardner Oct 22, 2026

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What happens to your communication when someone pushes exactly the right button?

Strategy can disappear quickly when the nervous system feels threatened. We become defensive, rush to prove our point, or get pulled into the emotional energy of the person across from us. The conversation may still be happening, but we are no longer fully present inside it.

Amy and trial lawyer Jennifer Gardner explore what it takes to remain grounded when the stakes are high. Drawing from decades inside intense courtroom situations, Jennifer shares why self-regulation is not separate from effective communication. It is what makes clear thinking, presence, and persuasion possible in the first place.

Their conversation moves from grounding through the body to the deeper work of humanizing the person on the other side. Jennifer also examines the line between ethical persuasion and manipulation, including how likability, empathy, and emotional connection can be used either in service of understanding or as tools for control.

The goal is not to become impossible to trigger.

It is to recognize the moment you are losing yourself, return to what matters, and choose how you want to respond before fear, ego, or defensiveness chooses for you.

Moments That Create Momentum:

Don’t Take the Bait – Explore why regulating yourself first can keep conflict from deciding how you communicate.
Come Back to the Body – Learn how grounding and breath can help restore clarity when the pressure around you begins to escalate.
Humanize Before You Persuade – Discover why understanding another person’s reality can make communication more compelling without abandoning your own position.
Notice the Shadow of Persuasion – Recognize how likability and emotional connection can create influence, and when those same tools begin to feel manipulative.
Hard Truths Still Need to Be Spoken – See how difficult conversations can create greater inner peace when your actions remain aligned with what you believe.

About the Guest:

Jennifer B. Gardner is a Los Angeles-based trial lawyer, speaker, and persuasion expert who helps high-performing leaders strengthen their executive presence, communication, and influence. She has operated her own litigation firm for more than 30 years and has handled complex business, real estate, and criminal matters through trial.

Jennifer holds executive certifications from the Wharton School in leadership, influence and persuasion, and neuroscience for business. Through The Edge Education, she teaches leaders and lawyers how to communicate more effectively, navigate high-stakes situations, and achieve stronger results with less stress.

https://jenniferbgardner.com/

About Amy:

Connect with Amy:

https://createmagicatwork.net/

https://www.linkedin.com/company/create-magic-at-work

https://www.facebook.com/112951637095427

https://www.instagram.com/createmagicatwork

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnEm4h3fUgaq8qgvZpz6dGg

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Drops of Light: When Mars Gets Triggered Oct 22, 2026

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What if the moment you feel most triggered is also an opportunity for wisdom to emerge? In this Drops of Light, Vish explores the tension between debilitated Mars and exalted Jupiter through Vedic astrology, sharing how a simple pause can interrupt reactivity and create space for a more thoughtful response.

Get your Personal Karmic Blueprint Reading - https://www.vishchatterji.com/karmic-snapshot

About the Host:

Vish Chatterji is an executive coach, Vedic Astrology teacher, author, and former business executive who helps people bridge ancient wisdom with modern life. After a career spanning engineering, entrepreneurship, and corporate leadership, he now guides leaders, founders, and seekers toward greater clarity through the traditions of Yoga, Meditation, Ayurveda, Vedic Philosophy, and Jyotish, the ancient science of light.

Through his coaching practice, Head & Heart Insights, Vish combines practical business experience with timeless spiritual teachings, inviting people to lead and live with greater awareness, purpose, and presence. He is the author of The Business Casual Yogi and Astrology Decoded, and serves as a Faculty Coach and Educator with the Berkeley Executive Coaching Institute at UC Berkeley.

https://www.vishchatterji.com/

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