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    Life of And

    The Life of And podcast is for high-achieving women and working parents who are ready to stop living a life of “have to” and start designing a life they actually want. It’s a space where we talk honestly about the things we’re often afraid to admit — even to ourselves. The exhaustion. The ambition. The loneliness. The joy. The tension of wanting more without losing yourself in the process.

    If you’re in the thick of it — feeling stretched, tired, hopeful, driven — this is your invitation to take a breath, get real, and find your way back to your own Life of And.

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    Why Bold Ideas Attract Doubt—and How Strong Leaders Decide Anyway Jan 22, 2026
    Show notes

    Free download: 10 financial terms every woman should know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/


    What if the thing holding you back isn’t clarity, confidence, or capability, but whether you trust yourself enough to decide?


    In this episode of Life of And, Tiffany sits down with longtime mentor and monthly conversation partner Brian Kavicky of Lushin to explore the quiet moment where bold vision often stalls: the moment of decision. It’s the space between knowing what you want and choosing it. When certainty fades, the stakes feel real, and your choice may affect others. Tiffany reflects on stepping away from a role she had mastered and what it’s been like to rebuild belief while leading something new without guaranteed outcomes.


    Together, Tiffany and Brian examine why capable, high-performing leaders hesitate even when the vision is clear. They discuss how outside feedback and “reasonable” caution can erode self-trust, and why waiting for proof keeps leaders stuck in incremental thinking. Brian offers a different path: decide first, trust your history, and stay committed even when discomfort and doubt show up.


    You’ll walk away with a framework to:

    • Recognize when you’re outsourcing belief instead of owning it
    • Separate helpful data from fear-based feedback
    • Decide before the path is fully visible
    • Stay committed when growth creates friction for you and others


    Wish you could talk it out with BK? Good news, you can! Book time with Brian Kavicky here.


    For more from Tiffany:

    Follow Tiffany on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.sauder

    Learn More: https://www.tiffanysauder.com


    Mentioned in this episode:

    • 290: How to Set Goals That Scare You (and Actually Hit Them)


    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro

    (01:19) Self-trust as the real leadership skill

    (02:18) Three questions to surface hesitation

    (05:13) “What if I’m wrong?” and ignoring your history

    (07:18) Outsourcing belief to other people

    (10:55) When teams slow down big vision

    (15:21) Stop negotiating your goals

    (20:52) Discomfort means it matters

    (22:36) Negative feedback can be a good sign


    Check out the apps and sponsor of this episode:

    • This episode is sponsored by Lushin. As part of our ongoing content partnership, Brian Kavicky joins the podcast monthly to share insights on leadership and sales. No compensation is received for referrals.
    • Created in partnership with Share Your Genius
      www.shareyourgenius.com

    Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank

    Find out more about Neighbor Serve here: https://neighborserve.com/life_of_and/


    The 1 Shift That Will Change How You Show Up for Yourself and Your Family Jan 15, 2026
    Show notes

    Free download: 10 financial terms every woman should know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/


    When you feel the constant pull of other people’s priorities, it can be hard to carve out time for your own goals, leaving you feeling stuck in a cycle of exhaustion and unfulfilled potential. As we kick off 2026, Tiffany reflects on the importance of clarity in setting priorities, especially in a world that constantly demands more of us.


    In this episode of Life of And, Tiffany shares how undefined priorities can cause burnout, how shifting from being available all the time to protecting your time can create lasting change, and how setting clear boundaries helps women take control of their time, energy, and goals. Through practical insights, personal stories, and the power of “and,” Tiffany shares how you can stop living reactively and start building a life aligned with your true priorities.


    What You’ll Learn:

    • Why undefined priorities lead to burnout and how to break free from the cycle of exhaustion
    • How protecting your time and setting clear boundaries can help you build a sustainable life
    • The power of “and” in balancing ambition and generosity, growth and service, progress and presence


    For more from Tiffany:

    Follow Tiffany on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.sauder

    Learn More: https://www.tiffanysauder.com


    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro

    (00:47) Welcome to 2026: Reflecting on changes

    (02:28) The importance of time management

    (06:35) Defining goals and priorities

    (10:52) The cost of undefined priorities

    (15:13) Balancing service and self-care

    (18:54) Setting boundaries and communicating priorities

    (24:32) Redesigning systems for work-life balance

    (33:12) Q&A: Navigating priorities and boundaries

    (45:05) Encouragement for new year


    Check out the sponsor of this episode:

    Created in partnership with Share Your Genius
    www.shareyourgenius.com


    Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank

    Find out more about Neighbor Serve here: https://neighborserve.com/life_of_and/


    How to Grow Your Business Without Losing Your Life: A Coaching Session on Boundaries & Growth Jan 08, 2026
    Show notes

    Free download: 10 financial terms every woman should know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/


    In this episode of Life of And, Tiffany sits down with Logan Montague, an entrepreneur, coach, and founder of marketing agency Your Marketing BFF’s, to discuss the journey from burnout to balance. Logan shares her story of starting an agency at 25 and the challenges she faced as it grew. She discusses her decision to scale back after feeling overwhelmed and how she’s now building a life that aligns with her personal values.


    They explore the messy middle of business growth, the importance of setting boundaries, and how to balance ambition with self-care. Logan talks about her transition to a more sustainable freelance lifestyle and the lessons she’s learned about maintaining a healthy work-life balance. Tiffany reflects on her own growth, helping Logan clarify his next steps while honoring her need for both personal and professional fulfillment.


    What You’ll Learn:

    • How to identify and overcome limiting beliefs that hold you back from growth
    • Why scaling your business too quickly can lead to burnout and what to do about it
    • The importance of defining personal and professional boundaries to achieve long-term success


    If you’re interested in working with Logan, check out this link:

    • Your Marketing BFF’s: www.yourmarketingbffs.com


    For more from Tiffany:

    Are you a busy working mom looking to optimize your morning and evenings? Grab this FREE checklist: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/Morning-Evening-Routine-Checklist


    Follow Tiffany on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.sauder


    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro

    (01:27) Meet Logan: marketing agency founder

    (03:58) Burnout and challenges from scaling too quickly

    (04:46) Scaling back to find work-life balance

    (06:45) Personal growth during business transitions

    (13:57) Logan shares strategies for time management

    (22:09) How Logan plans and prioritizes her time

    (26:52) Navigating special projects and overcoming distractions

    (29:15) Balancing business growth with personal life

    (30:20) Staying disciplined with personal and professional goals

    (30:44) Using business principles for personal life balance

    (32:40) Life changes affecting priorities and business growth

    (35:09) Setting foundations for future success

    (35:44) Logan’s transition to professional growth and coaching

    (38:36) Defining goals and setting boundaries for success

    (49:17) Pricing strategies for business growth

    (50:34) Implementing systems to manage boundaries and time

    Check out the sponsor of this episode:

    Created in partnership with Share Your Genius
    www.shareyourgenius.com


    Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank

    Find out more about Neighbor Serve here: https://neighborserve.com/life_of_and/


    2025 Was a Test. 2026 Is the Blueprint. Dec 18, 2025
    Show notes

    Free download: 10 financial terms every woman should know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/


    When you are building a career, raising a family, and carrying the weight of constant opportunity, it can feel like you are moving fast without a clear line of sight, especially as one year closes and another begins.


    In this episode of Life of And, Tiffany and Sam reflect on 2025 and look ahead to 2026, unpacking the tension women feel between unprecedented opportunity and profound exhaustion. They explore why burnout has become so common for working women, how cultural expectations and outdated systems contribute to it, and what it actually takes to build a sustainable life that grows alongside your ambition. Through personal stories, hard-earned lessons, and a clear framework for boundaries, priorities, and leadership, Tiffany shares how women can stop brute-forcing life and start building a life with clarity, intention, and hope.


    What You’ll Learn:

    • Why women experience burnout at the height of opportunity and how we got here culturally over the last 40 years
    • How outdated systems and invisible domestic labor create exhaustion even when careers are thriving
    • Why boundaries must be defined alongside goals to build a sustainable life


    For more from Tiffany:

    Check out Tiffany’s 2025 Holiday Gift Guide: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/2025-Holiday-Gift-Guide

    Follow Tiffany on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.sauder

    Learn More: https://www.tiffanysauder.com


    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro

    (01:38) The tension facing modern working women

    (02:57) Lessons learned from testing in 2025

    (07:03) Podcast rebrand and audience growth milestones

    (13:07) Corporate partnerships and executive retreats explained

    (21:02) Personal transitions shaping leadership decisions

    (22:21) Defining boundaries alongside ambitious goals

    (23:13) Choosing family presence without losing ambition

    (25:24) Why self-prioritization is personal responsibility

    (27:20) Tracing forty years of women’s progress

    (30:41) Cultural expectations fueling burnout and guilt

    (34:28) Technology changed work, but not expectations

    (37:20) Outsourcing ordinary tasks to regain capacity

    (41:56) Scaling the Life of And framework

    (45:02) Gratitude for the Life of And community


    Check out the sponsor of this episode:

    Created in partnership with Share Your Genius
    www.shareyourgenius.com


    Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank

    Find out more about Neighbor Serve here: https://neighborserve.com/life_of_and/


    The Goal-Setting Advice Every Ambitious Woman Needs to Hear Dec 11, 2025
    Show notes

    Free download: 10 financial terms every woman should know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/


    What if the limits you’re carrying into next year are actually just leftovers from last year?


    In this episode of Life of And, Tiffany sits down with monthly mentor and longtime partner Brian Kavicky of Lushin to dig into the mindset traps that keep leaders stuck, especially the belief that the future must be an incremental extension of the past. Together, they explore why small, “reasonable” goals drain energy, how setting massive goals forces clarity, and what to do in the uncomfortable space where you still don’t know how you’ll achieve them.


    They also break down the difference between momentum and real data, why experimentation is essential in seasons of growth, and how to avoid confusing positive feedback with actual market traction. Tiffany shares the behind-the-scenes details of her testing process as she builds Life of And, including the experiments that are working, those that aren’t yet, and what she’s learning from early conversations with companies and ERGs.


    You’ll walk away with a framework to:

    • Use experimentation to validate ideas and accelerate learning
    • Build a healthy sales culture that centers on solving real problems
    • Shift from founder-dependent revenue to team-powered growth
    • Identify when to let go so your team can scale what you started


    Wish you could talk it out with BK? Good news, you can! Book time with Brian Kavicky here.


    For more from Tiffany:

    Check out Tiffany’s 2025 Holiday Gift Guide: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/2025-Holiday-Gift-Guide

    Follow Tiffany on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.sauder

    Learn More: https://www.tiffanysauder.com


    Mentioned in this episode:

    • 286: Why You Need To Stop Apologizing
    • 290: How to Set Goals That Scare You (and Actually Hit Them)


    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro

    (02:28) Incremental vs. massive goals

    (04:19) Exploring big goals

    (10:10) Setting and testing hypotheses

    (11:12) Experimentation and data collection

    (16:37) Leveraging speaking engagements

    (18:49) Setting priorities and testing pro forma

    (20:14) Understanding market feedback and inventor syndrome

    (23:23) Rebuilding sales culture at Element Three

    (25:18) Defining and building a sales culture

    (33:16) Scaling revenue and leadership development


    Check out the apps and sponsor of this episode:

    • This episode is sponsored by Lushin. As part of our ongoing content partnership, Brian Kavicky joins the podcast monthly to share insights on leadership and sales. No compensation is received for referrals.
    • Created in partnership with Share Your Genius
      www.shareyourgenius.com

    Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank

    Find out more about Neighbor Serve here: https://neighborserve.com/life_of_and/


    The Secret to How Busy Working Women Can Build a Life They Won’t Quit On Dec 04, 2025
    Show notes

    Free download: 10 financial terms every woman should know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/


    In this episode of Life of And, Tiffany sits down with Chris Ewing, a strongman competitor, father of three daughters, and co-founder of Odyssey Resilience, to unpack the real mechanics of personal growth. Chris shares how his obsession with physical strength eventually became a deeper pursuit of emotional, moral, and mental resilience. Together, they challenge the myth of motivation, revealing why it so often fails, and how a compelling personal vision can replace it with something far more durable.


    Chris outlines the structure behind resilience from morning routines to decision-making frameworks, and explores how clarity of vision gives weight and meaning to our daily discipline. Tiffany opens up about her own struggles with sticking to habits during a chaotic season of life, and Chris offers both empathy and hard truths.


    What You’ll Learn:

    • Why failure is the catalyst for real growth, and how to train resilience on purpose
    • How to define your own vision so clearly that it drives your daily decisions
    • What “emotional resonance” means and why couples should fill out vision worksheets separately


    If you’re interested in working with Chris, check out this link:

    • Odyssey Resilience: https://www.odysseyresilience.org/


    For more from Tiffany:

    Check out Tiffany’s 2025 Holiday Gift Guide: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/2025-Holiday-Gift-Guide

    Follow Tiffany on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.sauder

    Learn More: https://www.tiffanysauder.com


    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro

    (01:27) Meet Chris Ewing: strongman competitor

    (02:36) The journey to strongman

    (06:01) The importance of vision

    (15:13) Balancing personal and shared visions

    (21:20) Defining and training resilience

    (23:17) Defining resilience and habit formation

    (24:21) The importance of a morning routine

    (26:36) Teaching and implementing routines with family

    (28:13) Personal reflections on routine and discipline

    (30:56) Challenges in maintaining healthy habits

    (38:45) Mindset and personal responsibility


    Check out the sponsor of this episode:

    Created in partnership with Share Your Genius
    www.shareyourgenius.com


    Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank

    Find out more about Neighbor Serve here: https://neighborserve.com/life_of_and/


    Leading Without Losing Yourself: One Working Mom’s Story Nov 20, 2025
    Show notes

    Free download: 10 financial terms every woman should know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/


    In this episode of Life of And, Tiffany sits down with Rachel Downey, founder & CEO of Share Your Genius, to unpack a year of deep personal work that changed how she leads. Rachel shares the mantra that anchored her: “If I take care of myself, the business will take care of itself,” and how trading survival mode for stewardship reshaped her decisions, calendar, and confidence.


    From learning to linger in hard things to setting bigger, simpler goals, Rachel explains why trusting her instincts, deciding faster, and paying for expertise helped turn anxiety into momentum. She also gets practical about morning routines, cutting distractions, and the role of faith in separating identity from outcomes, so the business can grow without consuming the person running it.


    For more from Tiffany:

    Sign up for the Insider’s Newsletter: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/TS-Newsletter-Subscribe

    Follow Tiffany on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.sauder

    Learn More: https://www.tiffanysauder.com


    What You’ll Learn:

    • How self-care, faith, and identity work can unlock clearer, faster leadership decisions
    • Why “simple over everything” and hiring for gaps create scalable growth
    • How to balance seasons of triage with the discipline required to dream again


    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro

    (00:42) Meet Rachel and Share Your Genius

    (01:50) 2024: fatigue and reality checks

    (04:39) 2025 plan: simple, bigger bets

    (07:12) Trusting instincts as a leadership skill

    (11:12) Self-care as an operating system

    (18:15) Books that replaced numbing with nourishment

    (19:36) Pruning commitments and reframing worthiness

    (26:43) Discipline that makes space to dream

    (31:15) The case for a real podcast strategy


    For more from Rachel, check out these links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachelelstsdowney/
    • Share Your Genius: https://www.shareyourgenius.com


    Check out the sponsor of this episode:

    Created in partnership with Share Your Genius


    Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank

    Find out more about Neighbor Serve here: https://neighborserve.com/life_of_and/


    Ask Me Anything: Holidays, Motherhood & Figuring It All Out Nov 13, 2025
    Show notes

    Free download: 10 financial terms every woman should know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/


    When you’re juggling career, family, and the countless “shoulds” of everyday life, it’s easy to feel stretched thin, especially as the holidays approach.


    In this episode of Life of And, Tiffany and Sam sit down for a special “Ask Tiffany Anything” edition: covering everything from navigating the chaos of the holiday season and surviving sick weeks with kids, to moving homes, raising teenage daughters, and keeping your own ambitions alive in the midst of it all. Through honest stories and practical advice, Tiffany shares the systems, boundaries, and mindset shifts that help her manage the tension between doing it all and doing what matters most.


    What You’ll Learn:

    • Simple strategies for planning during busy seasons (without losing your mind)
    • A practical way to reframe ambition so it aligns with your current season of life
    • Why open communication with your kids, your partner, and yourself is the foundation for balance and growth


    Join Tiffany’s Newsletter to Receive Her Ultimate Holiday Gift Guide:

    Sign up here: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/2025-Holiday-Gift-Guide


    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro

    (00:44) Special episode: ask Tiffany anything

    (01:43) Navigating the holiday season

    (06:14) Handling sick season with kids

    (11:39) Moving to a new home

    (14:33) Building relationships with your kids

    (17:15) Funny cocaine story

    (17:42) Open family communication

    (18:05) Perceptive daughter

    (20:21) Morning drink routine

    (20:55) Health and digestion

    (23:33) Balancing ambition and family

    (30:59) Home manager tips

    (34:53) Proud parenting moment


    Check out the app mentioned in this episode:

    • Create the ultimate wishlist with Giftful


    Episodes and Posts Mentioned:

    • 290: How to Set Goals That Scare You (and Actually Hit Them)
    • Implied Expectations vs Explicit Agreements


    Check out the sponsor of this episode:

    Created in partnership with Share Your Genius
    www.shareyourgenius.com


    Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank

    Find out more about Neighbor Serve here: https://neighborserve.com/life_of_and/


    How to Set Goals That Scare You (and Actually Hit Them) Nov 06, 2025
    Show notes

    Free download: 10 financial terms every woman should know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/


    What if you could stop letting past performance set the limits for what’s possible next year?


    In this episode of Life of And, Tiffany sits down with mentor and recurring guest Brian Kavicky of Lushin to talk about what really keeps leaders stuck: the belief that the past predicts the future. Together, they unpack why incremental goals drain energy, how to set “stupid big” goals that reignite belief, and how to get people around you aligned with the vision instead of just following instructions.


    They also explore why waiting for the perfect time to start only prolongs anxiety, how to translate goals into team priorities, and what it looks like to connect ambitious vision to daily action through Brian’s “goal–how–what” framework.


    You’ll walk away with a framework to:

    • Set goals based on possibility, not past performance.
    • Align your team by connecting outcomes to shared purpose.
    • Turn procrastination into decisive momentum.
    • Use your “cookbook” system to translate goals into daily behaviors.


    Wish you could talk it out with BK? Good news, you can! Book time with Brian Kavicky here.


    For more from Tiffany:

    Sign up for the Insider’s Newsletter: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/TS-Newsletter-Subscribe

    Follow Tiffany on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.sauder

    Learn More: https://www.tiffanysauder.com


    Mentioned in this episode:

    • 286: Why You Need To Stop Apologizing


    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro

    (01:16) Listener feedback and real-time coaching

    (03:07) Setting bigger goals to break out of ruts

    (06:14) Reframing how we set and anchor goals

    (10:28) The what and how framework for goal setting

    (14:16) Pruning and refocusing for growth in 2026

    (16:31) Balancing ambition with family and personal values

    (19:40) Aligning vision with team outcomes

    (28:03) Understanding procrastination and action

    (35:57) Tiffany’s reflection on partnership and growth


    Check out the apps and sponsor of this episode:

    • This episode is sponsored by Lushin. As part of our ongoing content partnership, Brian Kavicky joins the podcast monthly to share insights on leadership and sales. No compensation is received for referrals.
    • Created in partnership with Share Your Genius
      www.shareyourgenius.com

    Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank

    Find out more about Neighbor Serve here: https://neighborserve.com/life_of_and/


    The Working Mom’s Guide to Business Travel: Live Coaching Session with Kelly Hiller Oct 30, 2025
    Show notes

    Free download: 10 financial terms every woman should know: https://www.firstib.com/personal/savings/life-of-and/


    In this episode of Life of And, Tiffany sits down with Kelly Hiller, CMO of Purdue University, to talk about what it looks like to hold ambition and family in the same hand. Kelly opens up about preparing for Purdue’s most significant media moment, the expedition to confirm the discovery of Amelia Earhart’s plane, and the personal conflict of leaving her family behind for the most extended work trip of her career.


    From the weight of mom guilt to the courage it takes to pursue once-in-a-lifetime opportunities, this conversation is an honest look at how to chase big dreams without losing yourself in the process. Kelly shares what she hopes her daughters learn from watching her, and how to reframe guilt into living your values differently, not abandoning them.


    For more from Tiffany:

    Sign up for the Insider’s Newsletter: https://www.tiffanysauder.com/TS-Newsletter-Subscribe

    Follow Tiffany on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffany.sauder

    Learn More: https://www.tiffanysauder.com


    What You’ll Learn:

    • How to navigate ambition and family responsibilities without regret
    • Why guilt is often more about perception than values
    • What it means to model courage and resilience for the next generation

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro

    (03:13) The Amelia Earhart expedition

    (05:51) Navigating work and family responsibilities

    (08:58) Preparing the family for the trip

    (11:36) Support systems and emotional preparation

    (14:55) Logistics and practical solutions

    (23:02) Family meetings and communication

    (29:52) Reflecting on the experience

    (33:11) Planning Thanksgiving and birthday celebrations

    (35:19) Reflecting on past mistakes and learning

    (36:42) Importance of family presence and support

    (39:16) Balancing work and family responsibilities

    (45:20) Preparing family for temporary absence

    (47:43) Maintaining family connections during absence

    (01:02:53) Courage, legacy, and the Boilermaker way


    For more from Kelly, check out these links:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-hiller/


    Check out the sponsor of this episode:

    Created in partnership with Share Your Genius
    www.shareyourgenius.com


    Learn more about First Internet Bank (Member FDIC): https://www.tiffanysauder.com/First-Internet-Bank

    Find out more about Neighbor Serve here: https://neighborserve.com/life_of_and/


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