Stay ConnectedTrue stories and conversations with survivors, advocates and experts on the insidiousness of cults, frauds, scams and pyramid schemes. Through compassionate and educational informal chats, we work to end the stigma of “failure”, in an machine systematically designed for you to fail. Hosted by Roberta Blevins, star of LuLaRich.
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Paging the FTC. What happens when you're so high up in an organization that you experience the the quiet parts out loud? You know the ones, stacking, poaching, scheming and alleged tax fraud - the 4 horsemen of the MLM apocalypse. What happens when you hold more cards than the MLM wants you to have? What happens when you're a big enough load bearing brick that without you, the pyramid has to break some of their own rules to make it work? Lucky for us, Danielle has all the answers and more, and she really needs to share it with us.
Show Notes
Follow Danielle - Instagram
Danielle on From Huns to Humans - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-67-from-ghost-account-to-seller-danielle-hanneman/
PubMed - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/
DoTerra's Comp Plan - https://media.doterra.com/us/en/flyers/compensation-plan.pdf
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Amanda was a new wife just trying to help pay down their bills when Pampered Chef enticed her with an opportunity and the kitchen of her dreams. The harder she tried to make it work while always struggling to survive, the more obvious the transactional relationship became, until Amanda had enough. She ditched her MLM, faced some harsh truths and made a plan that helped her and her husband tackle over $85K in crippling debt without sacrificing their wants and needs. And she tells us how we can do it too!
Show Notes
Financial Peace University - https://www.ramseysolutions.com/ramseyplus/financial-peace
The Budget Mom - https://www.thebudgetmom.com/
Caleb Hammer - https://www.youtube.com/@CalebHammer
Tori Dunlap : Her First $100K - https://herfirst100k.com/
The Financial Gym - https://financialgym.com/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Part Two! It wasn't until Andrew and Will watched the 2021 convention turn deadly that they finally had enough and decided to speak out. But speaking their truth was just the beginning of their nightmares. They quickly became the targets of horrific fair gaming from the very same people they once used to call friends, even tracing the cyberstalking to the original source, and the most disgusting shock of all.
Show Notes
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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When Andrew Thompson first joined Paparazzi Accessories it wasn't out of spite or vengeance. He and his former partner climbed the multiple ranks effortlessly and were treated like MLM royalty until everything came crashing down, leaving him in the dust. Despite Andrew moving on and rebuilding his PapaKingdom, he had a target on his back he couldn't shake. It wasn't until he watched the 2021 convention turn deadly that he finally had enough and decided to speak out, but that was just the beginning of his nightmares.
Show Notes
$5 Jewelry and an MLM Conference Gone Wrong - https://www.vox.com/the-goods/22688317/mlm-covid-19-pandemic-recruiting-sales-paparazzi
Paparazzi Silent After Deaths - https://www.insideedition.com/paparazzi-accessories-silent-after-at-least-5-die-from-covid-19-following-mlms-convention-loved
11 Deaths Linked to Paparazzi - https://behindmlm.com/companies/11-deaths-linked-to-paparazzi-covid-19-las-vegas-event/
More Deaths from Paparazzi Super Spreader - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/phz1ca/more_alleged_deaths_from_the_paparazzi_super/
Delta Variant in Nevada Cases Triples - https://www.reviewjournal.com/investigations/delta-variant-found-in-nevada-covid-cases-has-tripled-2389059/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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*This episode mentions abusive relationships, thoughts of suicide and health claims. Please use discretion when listening.*
When you're already experiencing red flags, it's easy to miss the others as they fill up your space and for Kristin it was one thing after the other. From an abusive relationship, into an abusive MLM, a lot of warning signs were excused until the weight of it all was just too much and Kristin felt she had no other options. Luckily, a supportive sisterhood inside the scam helped her though and inadvertently helped her out.
Show Notes
D. Gary Young - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._Gary_Young
Brigham Young - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigham_Young
The United Order - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Order
FDA Warning Letter - https://www.fda.gov/inspections-compliance-enforcement-and-criminal-investigations/warning-letters/young-living-essential-oils-corporate-615777-06102022
YL Class Action - https://www.classaction.org/blog/no-medicinal-benefit-young-living-hit-with-class-action-challenging-essential-oil-health-benefit-claims
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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*Content Warning* This episode deals with the human trafficking industry, please use discretion when listening.
Amanda was just a teenager when she left home to join a "Mag Crew", traveling across the country selling magazines door to door. Maybe you've encountered a Mag Crew at your own doorstep, peddling overpriced magazine subscriptions with sketchy looking "official" documents, claiming to be earning points for a savings bond or vacation. It seems harmless, but as Amanda tells us, it's anything but.
Show Notes
Follow Amanda - Facebook | Instagram | Website
For Youths, a Grim Tour on Magazine Crews - https://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/21/us/21magcrew.html
Trapped into Selling Magazines Door-to-Door - https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/04/trapped-into-selling-magazines-door-to-door/388601/
Magazine Sales Enmesh Youths in Murky World - https://www.mcall.com/1984/06/17/magazine-sales-enmesh-youths-in-murky-world/
Ghost Fleet - https://amzn.to/3megx7C
Mag Crew Support Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/770393066349097
Everything Owned by Nestle - https://wyomingllcattorney.com/Blog/Everything-Owned-by-Nestle
Fair Trade America - https://www.fairtradeamerica.org/
International Labor Rights Forum - https://laborrights.org/
In Our Backyard - https://inourbackyard.org/
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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Emily Lynn Paulson is back! And this time it's to talk about her book Hey, Hun Sales, Sisterhood, Supremacy, and the Other Lies Behind Multilevel Marketing that comes out May 30th! In our chat we cover a lot of bases, including the process of writing and publishing a book with an "AntiMLM" message to the oddity of Parasocial relationships and how MLM is dripping in white supremacy.
Show Notes
Episode 101 - Emily Lynn Paulson - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-101-emily-paulson/id1553784236?i=1000559960572
MLM Conference Video - https://mlmconf2023.org/conference-videos/
Preorder Hey, Hun! - https://amzn.to/3KiXdiR
Row House Publishing - https://www.rowhousepublishing.com/
"I exploited my own cancer diagnosis to grow my MLM business" - https://www.today.com/money/essay/cancer-pity-grow-mlm-business-rcna67053
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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Isaac Ramos was an overworked and underpaid teacher looking to supplement his income while caring for his chronically ill wife when Amway walked into their lives. As the "upline" in their marriage, Isaac dove head first into the American Way, duplicating what his Platinum kept saying was the way to millions in residual income. Through Isaac's perspective, we see the pressures of an Amway marriage with a different lens, and learn that nowhere is safe, not even the dog park.
Show Notes
Follow Eddie (Ep:42) on his journey through the Pacific Crest Trail! - https://pct.edwardarriola.net/
Married to an AmBot - http://marriedtoanambot.blogspot.com/
Peter Island - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Island
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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As a Florida Supreme Court Certified Family & County Mediator, Vanessa sees a lot. As another personal protection advocate on TikTok, she wanted to have a conversation. And in that conversation we covered a lot of topics; owning your own business, obvious lack in education, not-so-basic job knowledge, the military and the power of confidence.
Show Notes
Vanessa on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@divorcingadults
Divorcing Adults - https://www.divorcingadults.com/
National Domestic Violence Hotline
1-800-799-7233
Child Help National Child Abuse Hotline
1-800-422-4453
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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Cori was never in a MLM, but she got a front row seat to the circus of Amway when she met her soon-to-be in-laws and saw their basement. Throughout almost their entire marriage, Cori watched them struggle when they didn't have to, sacrificing everything they had for a dream that was only out of reach while funneling their money into Amway. Cori shares her story of watching the aftermath of putting your MLM before your family.
Show Notes
Amway : The Comments - https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Amway/AUS/commen39.htm
Amway Ruined my Childhood - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/8wuyue/amway_ruined_my_childhood/
Amway : Technically Legal - https://medium.com/agastya-zayant/amway-multilevel-marketing-technically-legal-but-will-ruin-your-life-8d792c20e9d7
Out of MLM - https://outofmlm.info/
Cultish by Amanda Montell - https://amzn.to/3Q7owx9
Dr. Steven Hassan's BITE Model - https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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