Stay ConnectedTrue stories and conversations with survivors, advocates and experts on the insidiousness of cults, frauds, scams and pyramid schemes. Through compassionate and educational informal chats, we work to end the stigma of “failure”, in an machine systematically designed for you to fail. Hosted by Roberta Blevins, star of LuLaRich.
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After tackling topics like cultural moray, the role of women in the LDS faith, and why Utah is rife with MLM's in part one, Ryan and I dive into "Big Pyramid", Mitt Romney's connections to MLM, the affinity fraud of Tahitian Noni Juice, the obsession of outrageous health claims and essential oils from a religious standpoint, and where your tithing really goes. This is Part 2.
Show Notes:
Truth and Transparency - https://www.truthandtransparency.org/
How much do top Mormon leaders make? Leaked pay stubs may surprise you. - https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=4800350&itype=cmsid
New website plans to showcase leaked Mormon documents - https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=4725913&itype=CMSID
MormonLeaks Reddit post about leaked payments - https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/5mysp0/leaked_q15_and_1q70_pay_information/
Morinda aka Tahitian Noni Juice - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morinda,_Inc.
Get-Rich-Quick Profiteers Love Mitt Romney, and He Loves Them Back - https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/05/mitt-romney-nu-skin-multilevel-marketing-schemes/
The Dream Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dream/id1435743296
DSHEA: Sen. Orrin Hatch’s Legacy to Direct Selling - https://www.directsellingnews.com/dshea-sen-orrin-hatchs-legacy-to-direct-selling/
The Case (for and) against Multi-level Marketing By Jon M. Taylor, MBA, Ph.D. - https://www.ftc.gov/sites/default/files/documents/public_comments/trade-regulation-rule-disclosure-requirements-and-prohibitions-concerning-business-opportunities-ftc.r511993-00017%C2%A0/00017-57317.pdf
Consecrating Oil - https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/priesthood-ordinances-and-blessings/consecrating-oil?lang=eng
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
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As the founder of Truth and Transparency, and a former member of the Church of Jesus Christ and the Latter Day Saints, Ryan McKnight has a unique perspective into the culture and atmosphere of the Mormon faith. Paired with his understanding of Multi Level Marketing and the scam it perpetuates, Ryan and I have an in depth discussion into some of the reasons why many LDS members fall victims to these cons, including cultural moray, gender roles within the church, "Magic Underwear", why MLM chose Utah and affinity fraud. This is part one.
Show Notes
Ryan's website, Truth and Transparency, a non-profit newsroom dedicated to religious accountability - https://www.truthandtransparency.org/
Follow the profit: How Mormon culture made Utah a hotbed for multi-level marketers - https://kutv.com/news/local/follow-the-profit-how-mormon-culture-made-utah-a-hotbed-for-multi-level-marketers
10 reasons Mormons dominate multi-level marketing companies - https://religionnews.com/2017/06/20/10-reasons-mormons-dominate-multi-level-marketing-companies/
Coffeezilla and Fake Gurus - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFQMnBA3CS502aghlcr0_aw
Womanhood : The Highest Place of Honor by: James E Faust - https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2000/04/womanhood-the-highest-place-of-honor?lang=eng
Meet The Mormons - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS6PZh6tCC0
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
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The final part of Cat Dean's story comes to a close as we chat about the scary financial side of navigating an MLM, what to do when it's tax time, how to get yourself out a the hole you dug, and ways to start rebuilding your credit and savings. While Cat is not a professional financial advisor, she does offer a lot of good basic info that most MLM's conveniently leave out of the equation. Take what she has to say and apply it if it works for you!
Show Notes:
Follow Cat on IG! https://www.instagram.com/debtfreewithcattitude/
Connect with Cat! https://go.oncehub.com/CatherineDean
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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I am beyond excited to share this bonus episode with you, because not only do I get to chat with my friend and fellow Anti-MLM warrior, but we're talking about my current obsession, Ponzinomics : The Untold Story of Multi-Level Marketing. And who better to discuss this with, other than Savy Leiser, our gay aunt from the 80's, Small Business Babe and creator of Savy Writes Books on YouTube! After finishing Robert's book, I knew there was only one person (besides him) that could do this review justice and I am so thankful she agreed! I can't wait to have her back!
Show Notes
Meet Savy! http://www.savyleiser.com/
Savy Writes Books : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9WShNx2HsXRGjj9F593HzA
Furever Home Friends : https://fureverhomefriends.com/
VOTE for Savy and FHF! : https://smallbusinessgrant.fedex.com/entry/W2vFJVklVT
Savy's Ponzinomics Review with The Anti Bot
Part 1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTsFCxP3aNc
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAhFCAgkTCo
Uncle Rico sells NuPont Fiber Woven Bowls : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsKRlVwXThU
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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After wanting to take responsibility for her finances, and become financially literate, Cat Dean realized her MLM was hemorrhaging her cash flow. Armed with this new knowledge, she decided to learn how to manage debt, become "financially free" without the cult of MLM, and help others leaving these businesses with their long term money goals as well. Stay tuned for Part 2!
Show Notes:
Follow Cat on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/debtfreewithcattitude/
Follow Cat on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@lifewithcattitude
Book Cat's Services - https://go.oncehub.com/CatherineDean
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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In our very first bonus episode, we talk with Haley O'Bryan, a therapist with a masters in counseling, a wide range of interest in social justic topics, and who did her masters theis on "Counseling Considerations for Clients with Experience in Multi-Level Marketing Companies and Similar Groups". Haley offers valuable insight into the harmful culture of MLM, the issues that come along with joining them and the importance of finding supportive treatment when leaving these cults.
Show Notes!
Follow Haley on Instagram! - https://www.instagram.com/counselorhaley/
Haley's Masters Thesis; "Counseling Considerations for Clients with Experience in Multi-Level Marketing Companies and Similar Groups" - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XT93C53xxhwJLQelMezcVfa-7bPjSMLU/view
Josie Naikoi "Not The Good Girl" - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4DMThX0F-h6F1nzCbp6shw
Psychology Today - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us
Free Therapy Resources - https://www.purewow.com/wellness/free-therapy-resources
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
You can also report to your state Attorney General's office! https://www.naag.org/find-my-ag/
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In our 4th episode of Life After MLM, we finish Katie's story about her time in LuLaRoe. She walks us though her refund process, the 100% buyback drama, the deep feelings of guilt she experienced when leaving MLM and the resulting mental health journey she had to take to find herself again. In Katie's speaking out, she finds the cathartic release and the resulting validation when people begin to respond to her shared experience.
Show Notes:
Check out our Instagram feed @lifeaftermlmpodcast for Katie's Show Notes post to see all the pictures and things we talk about!
Mark Stidham, owner of LuLaRoe addressing upset consultants, telling them the "suck it up" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZp8dEYLko0
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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In the 3rd episode of Life After MLM, I talk to Katie Kastner, a special educator and freelance writer from the Midwest. Katie was in LuLaRoe at the same time I was, experienced eerily similar things, but saw "the rot" way before I could. Katie decided to leave LuLaRoe and speak out in print media, writing a scathing personal expose about her time in the cult.
My conversation with Katie ran the gamete from relatable moldy leggings experiences, to her difficult mental health journey processing how MLM affected her and the aftermath of LuLaRoe and the Anti-MLM movement.
This is part one.
Show Notes
Check out Katie's life after MLM here : https://www.katiekastner.com/
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
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In our second episode, I chat with Jessica Underwood-James, a professional aesthetician and makeup artist from the Mississippi Gulf Coast. After being in 3 different MLM's, she realized that this industry was much darker than it appeared from the outside. Now an Anti-MLM Advocate, Jess helps educate people on the dangers associated with Multi-Level Marketing.
Don't forget to listen to her new Anti_MLM podcast at https://anchor.fm/jessmua
Follow her on her social media channels at linktr.ee/JessMUA
Check out all the photos we mention on our SHOW NOTES post on our IG @lifeaftermlmpodcast
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
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In our very first episode of Life After MLM, I share my own story in Multi Level Marketing, the rise and fall of LuLaRoe from an inside perspective, and what's next for the Anti-MLM Movement.
Show Notes
Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3tWutRS
How can you help?
Report false income and health claims here: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/
Or go to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org
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