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    LessWrong (Curated & Popular)

    Audio narrations of LessWrong posts. Includes all curated posts and all posts with 125+ karma.

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    "Sum-threshold attacks" by TsviBT Sep 11, 2023
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    How do you affect something far away, a lot, without anyone noticing?

    (Note: you can safely skip sections. It is also safe to skip the essay entirely, or to read the whole thing backwards if you like.)
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    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/R3eDrDoX8LisKgGZe/sum-threshold-attacks
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    "Report on Frontier Model Training" by Yafah Edelman Sep 08, 2023
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    This is a linkpost for https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TsYkDYtV6BKiCN9PAOirRAy3TrNDu2XncUZ5UZfaAKA/edit?usp=sharing

    Understanding what drives the rising capabilities of AI is important for those who work to forecast, regulate, or ensure the safety of AI. Regulations on the export of powerful GPUs need to be informed by understanding of how these GPUs are used, forecasts need to be informed by bottlenecks, and safety needs to be informed by an understanding of how the models of the future might be trained. A clearer understanding would enable policy makers to target regulations in such a way that they are difficult for companies to circumvent with only technically compliant GPUs, forecasters to avoid focus on unreliable metrics, and technical research working on mitigating the downsides of AI to understand what data models might be trained on.

    This doc is built from a collection of smaller docs I wrote on a bunch of different aspects of frontier model training I consider important. I hope for people to be able to use this document as a collection of resources, to draw from it the information they find important and inform their own models.

    I do not expect this doc to have a substantial impact on any serious AI labs capabilities efforts - I think my conclusions are largely discoverable in the process of attempting to scale AIs or for substantially less money than a serious such attempt would cost. Additionally I expect major labs already know many of the things in this report.
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    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/nXcHe7t4rqHMjhzau/report-on-frontier-model-training
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    "A list of core AI safety problems and how I hope to solve them" by Davidad Sep 08, 2023
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    Context: I sometimes find myself referring back to this tweet and wanted to give it a more permanent home. While I'm at it, I thought I would try to give a concise summary of how each distinct problem would be solved by an Open Agency Architecture (OAA), if OAA turns out to be feasible.
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    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/D97xnoRr6BHzo5HvQ/one-minute-every-moment
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    "One Minute Every Moment" by abramdemski Sep 07, 2023
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    About how much information are we keeping in working memory at a given moment?

    "Miller's Law" dictates that the number of things humans can hold in working memory is "the magical number 7±2". This idea is derived from Miller's experiments, which tested both random-access memory (where participants must remember call-response pairs, and give the correct response when prompted with a call) and sequential memory (where participants must memorize and recall a list in order). In both cases, 7 is a good rule of thumb for the number of items people can recall reliably.[1]

    Miller noticed that the number of "things" people could recall didn't seem to depend much on the sorts of things people were being asked to recall. A random numeral contains about 3.3 bits of information, while a random letter contains about 4.7; yet people were able to recall about the same number of numerals or letters.

    Miller concluded that working memory should not be measured in bits, but rather in "chunks"; this is a word for whatever psychologically counts as a "thing".

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    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/D97xnoRr6BHzo5HvQ/one-minute-every-moment
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    "Sharing Information About Nonlinear" by Ben Pace Sep 07, 2023
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    Added (11th Sept): Nonlinear have commented that they intend to write a response, have written a short follow-up, and claim that they dispute 85 claims in this post. I'll link here to that if-and-when it's published.

    Added (11th Sept): One of the former employees, Chloe, has written a lengthy comment personally detailing some of her experiences working at Nonlinear and the aftermath.

    Added (12th Sept): I've made 3 relatively minor edits to the post. I'm keeping a list of all edits at the bottom of the post, so if you've read the post already, you can just go to the end to see the edits.

    Added (15th Sept): I've written a follow-up post saying that I've finished working on this investigation and do not intend to work more on it in the future. The follow-up also has a bunch of reflections on what led up to this post.
    Epistemic status: Once I started actively looking into things, much of my information in the post below came about by a search for negative information about the Nonlinear cofounders, not from a search to give a balanced picture of its overall costs and benefits. I think standard update rules suggest not that you ignore the information, but you think about how bad you expect the information would be if I selected for the worst, credible info I could share, and then update based on how much worse (or better) it is than you expect I could produce. (See section 5 of this post about
    Mistakes with Conservation of Expected Evidence for more on this.) This seems like a worthwhile exercise for at least non-zero people to do in the comments before reading on. (You can condition on me finding enough to be worth sharing, but also note that I think I have a relatively low bar for publicly sharing critical info about folks in the EA/x-risk/rationalist/etc ecosystem.)

    tl;dr: If you want my important updates quickly summarized in four claims-plus-probabilities, jump to the section near the bottom titled "Summary of My Epistemic State".

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    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Lc8r4tZ2L5txxokZ8/sharing-information-about-nonlinear-1
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    "Defunding My Mistake" by ymeskhout Sep 07, 2023
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    Until about five years ago, I unironically parroted the slogan All Cops Are Bastards (ACAB) and earnestly advocated to abolish the police and prison system. I had faint inklings I might be wrong about this a long time ago, but it took a while to come to terms with its disavowal. What follows is intended to be not just a detailed account of what I used to believe but most pertinently, why. Despite being super egotistical, for whatever reason I do not experience an aversion to openly admitting mistakes I’ve made, and I find it very difficult to understand why others do. I’ve said many times before that nothing engenders someone’s credibility more than when they admit error, so you definitely have my permission to view this kind of confession as a self-serving exercise (it is). Beyond my own penitence, I find it very helpful when folks engage in introspective, epistemological self-scrutiny, and I hope others are inspired to do the same.
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    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/4rsRuNaE4uJrnYeTQ/defunding-my-mistake
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    "What I would do if I wasn’t at ARC Evals" by LawrenceC Sep 07, 2023
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    In which: I list 9 projects that I would work on if I wasn’t busy working on safety standards at ARC Evals, and explain why they might be good to work on.

    Epistemic status:I’m prioritizing getting this out fast as opposed to writing it carefully. I’ve thought for at least a few hours and talked to a few people I trust about each of the following projects, but I haven’t done that much digging into each of these, and it’s likely that I’m wrong about many material facts. I also make little claim to the novelty of the projects. I’d recommend looking into these yourself before committing to doing them. (Total time spent writing or editing this post: ~8 hours.
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    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/6FkWnktH3mjMAxdRT/what-i-would-do-if-i-wasn-t-at-arc-evals
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    "Meta Questions about Metaphilosophy" by Wei Dai Sep 04, 2023
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    To quickly recap my main intellectual journey so far (omitting a lengthy side trip into cryptography and Cypherpunk land), with the approximate age that I became interested in each topic in parentheses:

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    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/fJqP9WcnHXBRBeiBg/meta-questions-about-metaphilosophy
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    "The U.S. is becoming less stable" by lc Sep 04, 2023
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    We focus so much on arguing over who is at fault in this country that I think sometimes we fail to alert on what's actually happening. I would just like to point out, without attempting to assign blame, that American political institutions appear to be losing common knowledge of their legitimacy, and abandoning certain important traditions of cooperative governance. It would be slightly hyperbolic, but not unreasonable to me, to term what has happened "democratic backsliding".
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    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/r2vaM2MDvdiDSWicu/the-u-s-is-becoming-less-stable#
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    "OpenAI API base models are not sycophantic, at any size" by Nostalgebraist Sep 03, 2023
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    In Discovering Language Model Behaviors with Model-Written Evaluations" (Perez et al 2022), the authors studied language model "sycophancy" - the tendency to agree with a user's stated view when asked a question.

    The paper contained the striking plot reproduced below, which shows sycophancy

    • increasing dramatically with model size
    • while being largely independent of RLHF steps
    • and even showing up at 0 RLHF steps, i.e. in base models!

    [...] I found this result startling when I read the original paper, as it seemed like a bizarre failure of calibration. How would the base LM know that this "Assistant" character agrees with the user so strongly, lacking any other information about the scenario?

    At the time, I ran one of Anthropic's sycophancy evals on a set of OpenAI models, as I reported here.

    I found very different results for these models:

    • OpenAI base models are not sycophantic (or only very slightly sycophantic).
    • OpenAI base models do not get more sycophantic with scale.
    • Some OpenAI models are sycophantic, specifically text-davinci-002 and text-davinci-003.

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    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/3ou8DayvDXxufkjHD/openai-api-base-models-are-not-sycophantic-at-any-size
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